Why the hate for Boston College?

[Anonymous]

I can’t wade through 15 pages of bickering, but I did see someone equate BC to Wake Forest.

DS is shooting higher but considering both as targets (4.0 uw /11 APs/ 1510). What other schools are similar? He likes the work hard/play hard vibes, the D1 sports, the school spirit, and the leafy, non-urban campuses. (BTW, we’re Jewish, so not intentionally seeking a Catholic school, though we’re quite comfortable with the Jesuit values.)

[Anonymous]

UMiami

[Anonymous]

If you are white, Christian, & mainstream, you’re good.

[Anonymous]

Lots of better options

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCUM seems to have a very odd relationship toward Catholic (including Jesuit) schools. Sometimes they are ranked with non-religious schools, and sometimes set completely apart.

+1

Especially the handful of Catholic schools that are indisputably desirable and thus pretty tough admits: Georgetown, Notre Dame, BC, Holy Cross and Villanova. Catholic schools often combine rah-rah atmosphere and community feel at sizes that are more manageable than big publics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because it pretends to be elite but isn't but the rich can buy in.

It is not pretending. It is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fact BC, BU, and NU were commuter schools until the 80s or 90s. Primary focus was working class kids not like Williams Tufts Holy Cross, Notre Dame. For reference the patriarch of Kennedy family graduated from Harvard not BC well over 100 years ago!

Sort of right but for BC dates are off. By 1980 it was no longer a commuter school. Transition person was the 1970s. Even by 1975 it had changed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Irish elite never went to Boston College its mission was to educate working class /poor kids who commuted from home. They did admirable job. Wealthy Irish families sent l their sons to Harvard, Dartmouth or more likely Holy Cross. The old wasps that ran Harvard and other Ivies never played BC in football rather they played and continue to play Holy Cross. It is remarkable that HC which never had a student body of over 1600 men over 4 years played Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, and Brown since the 1890s.

Yes but no. BC was created for working class Irish. It was called a university of our own. But starting in the 1920s and exploding after ww2, the grads became successful. And their kids went there. And they became successful. It changed from a lower middle class place to a middle class place to an UMC place to something more. All on the backs of the people that went. So I agree not a place the rich Irish went until say the 1980s when it changed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t wade through 15 pages of bickering, but I did see someone equate BC to Wake Forest.

DS is shooting higher but considering both as targets (4.0 uw /11 APs/ 1510). What other schools are similar? He likes the work hard/play hard vibes, the D1 sports, the school spirit, and the leafy, non-urban campuses. (BTW, we’re Jewish, so not intentionally seeking a Catholic school, though we’re quite comfortable with the Jesuit values.)

UMiami ticks a lot of the same boxes.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Irish elite never went to Boston College its mission was to educate working class /poor kids who commuted from home. They did admirable job. Wealthy Irish families sent l their sons to Harvard, Dartmouth or more likely Holy Cross. The old wasps that ran Harvard and other Ivies never played BC in football rather they played and continue to play Holy Cross. It is remarkable that HC which never had a student body of over 1600 men over 4 years played Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, and Brown since the 1890s.

Yes but no. BC was created for working class Irish. It was called a university of our own. But starting in the 1920s and exploding after ww2, the grads became successful. And their kids went there. And they became successful. It changed from a lower middle class place to a middle class place to an UMC place to something more. All on the backs of the people that went. So I agree not a place the rich Irish went until say the 1980s when it changed.

BC is more than UMC?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t wade through 15 pages of bickering, but I did see someone equate BC to Wake Forest.

DS is shooting higher but considering both as targets (4.0 uw /11 APs/ 1510). What other schools are similar? He likes the work hard/play hard vibes, the D1 sports, the school spirit, and the leafy, non-urban campuses. (BTW, we’re Jewish, so not intentionally seeking a Catholic school, though we’re quite comfortable with the Jesuit values.)

These criteria are pretty much any top 50 D1 school in a non-urban area.

[Anonymous]

great school. just not one of those "great even for 90k" schools. and pretty weak FA

[Anonymous]

Nice school along the lines of BU, Tulane, SMU, and Northeastern. Is it worth 90k a year? No.

[Anonymous]

Duke, Dartmouth, USC, Cornell, WUSTL, Emory, Georgetown, and others have all been equated with BC.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Irish elite never went to Boston College its mission was to educate working class /poor kids who commuted from home. They did admirable job. Wealthy Irish families sent l their sons to Harvard, Dartmouth or more likely Holy Cross. The old wasps that ran Harvard and other Ivies never played BC in football rather they played and continue to play Holy Cross. It is remarkable that HC which never had a student body of over 1600 men over 4 years played Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, and Brown since the 1890s.

Yes but no. BC was created for working class Irish. It was called a university of our own. But starting in the 1920s and exploding after ww2, the grads became successful. And their kids went there. And they became successful. It changed from a lower middle class place to a middle class place to an UMC place to something more. All on the backs of the people that went. So I agree not a place the rich Irish went until say the 1980s when it changed.

BC is more than UMC?

UMC may not be well positioned to afford BC (or any other T50 private)