What SHOULD Dems do?

[Anonymous]

Whatever they do, not this. For the love of God, not this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The party isn’t telling people to set fire to Teslas

And most sane people don’t condone it.

It’s a rage outlet I didn’t see coming, that’s for certain.

Destroying people’s property isn’t legal.

I hardly see a groundswell of Democratic politicians loudly speaking up to condemn the violence. Democrats always insist that anyone who is silent about domestic terrorism supports it, so the same logic applies here.

Logic? Stop using words you don't understand.

There are some angry people out there doing dumb shit. There always are. You can't hang this on Dems. Musk is making people crazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The party isn’t telling people to set fire to Teslas

And most sane people don’t condone it.

It’s a rage outlet I didn’t see coming, that’s for certain.

Destroying people’s property isn’t legal.

I hardly see a groundswell of Democratic politicians loudly speaking up to condemn the violence. Democrats always insist that anyone who is silent about domestic terrorism supports it, so the same logic applies here.

Democrat politicians aren't the ones responsible for the violent backlash.

That's all on Trump and Musk and those who support them.

If you're really so concerned, then it's YOU and your fellow REPUBLICANS who need to be loudly speaking up, to rein Trump and Musk in.

🤦🤦🤦

Our party is doomed.

- A disillusioned Democrat.

Wut? How are vandals all the fault of Dems?

This thread shows that all Americans are just off the chain. This whole country is full of blathering looney tunes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whatever they do, not this. For the love of God, not this.

Dems should be doing more of this. Also, who gives a flying f what Ian Miles-Cheong thinks? That grifter tweets from Malaysia. I bet he couldn't even find Southlake, TX on a map.

[Anonymous]

Sure, but the video is accurate, including the fact the people in it, who all love this, are approximately 80 years old on average and all white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:January 6th is everything to me

I was traumatized by that and can't fathom how the Republicans rationalize it.

I was traumatized by the summer of the BLM riots. So much destruction of Federal buildings. Dozens of murders. Lawlessness. Makes January 6th look like nursery school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure what Democrats should do. Even after two months of Trump, they still poll below Republicans. Democrats are associated either with geriatric and compromised leaders like Schumer or with unpopular identity politics and performative virtue signaling. The only Democrats that I'm seeing who are breaking through and giving voice to the anger and outrage are Bernie Sanders and AOC. I'm impressed with both of them. They are rising to the moment. And most importantly they are authentic. You can disagree with them, but at least you know where they stand. I think Democrats should follow their lead. Keep the focus on economic issues, fighting oligarchs, and Republican treachery. Be angry. Be outraged. Do town halls everywhere. Go grassroots. And for God's sake, understand the media universe these days. Babbling platitudes on Face the Nation is so 1983.

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This is not a good strategy for the Democratic party and would be an unforced error. AOC and Sanders are too far left and AOC is not very bright. It will guarantee another Republican victory.

[Anonymous]

(1) Democrats should stop with the identity politics.
(2) Democrats should stop talking down to people. It's really insulting.
(3) Democrats should stop embracing socialistic policies. Capitalism, despite its inherent faults, entrepreneurialism, and our natural resources is what made this country an economic powerhouse. Don't kill the golden goose.
(4) Democrats should drop the boys playing in girls sports, dressing in bathrooms, etc.
(5) Democrats need to have strong foreign policies. They're viewed as weak by the world. And our enemies took advantage of it.
(6) Democrats should follow the Republican lead on cutting government waste and fraud. We're $37 Trillion in debt for pete's sake. This is a national security issue. We're paying over $1 Trillion in interest on this debt a year. Something has to give. We can't lose the world reserve currency status.
(7) Democrats should stop taxing the crap out of Americans.
(8) Democrats should become more business friendly.
(9) Democrats should push personal responsibility and not "the government will take care of everything for you" policies. Less government.
(10) Democrats should stop the "we're against Trump on everything".
(11) Democrats should stop the "nazis", "attack on Democracy", blah, blah blah. It's a bunch of BS and no one buys it.
(12) Democrats need to back our sovereign borders and legal immigration. Get rid of birthright citizenship. That was for a different time. No more anchor babies. Stop free healthcare of illegals.
(13) Democrats need to find a more moderate leader that's not based on what race, sex, sexuality, ethnicity, etc they are.
(14) Democrats need to stop politicizing government agencies such as the DoJ or IRS for instance.
(15) Democrats need to stop listening to James Carville.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Identify a talented and young leader that can energize a resistance and then hit the road traveling all across America educating average americans about the crisis we face. Basic leadership. The leader should organize a plan. Skip the protests. Nobody cares about protests. They just make the protestors look crazy. See BLM for an example.

I think Trump wants protests so he can accuse the protesters of domestic terrorism and declare martial law.
I'm not protesting.
I call my elected representatives every week and politely ask them to protect my Constitutional rights.
I give money to candidates whom I think will support democracy.
I boycott the oligarchs businesses.
There's not a whole lot more I can do. But there's a lot more my elected representatives can do. Where are they?????

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dems need to, as Ezra Klein put it, face why Trump won.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/democrats-need-to-face-why-trump-won/id1548604447?i=1000699618199

They need to stop their need for political purity and their resulting in-fighting. It's ridiculous to call for Schumer's resignation. It's the same as the GOP calling for judges to be impeached.

They need to refocus their message on the working class. The people barely surviving through a gig economy, with inflation and possibly stagflation coming their way. They need to look at whole systems to understand why there are housing shortages and not primarily focus on helping the most vulnerable. Don't stop helping them, but that can't be your main messaging. Your messaging has to be we are all in this together. Let's create opportunity for all, so that all can thrive.

You have to stop demonizing whole classes of people. Police, white men, Karens. Republicans themselves. It feels good. I get it. I feel it too. But you are alienating half the nation. We talk about being inclusive. Walk the walk. Include those you disagree with. Make genuine room for diversity of perspective too.

I could have written this post myself.
yes, I agree 100%
I don't call myself a Democrat any more because I'm sickened by the spinless wimps who are unable to fight Trump. Why did we elect these people?
I tell everyone I can that diversity means including those you don't agree with, but I'm not getting much of an audience for that message, sadly. I get why Magas hate Democrats. They feel disrespected by Democrats who call them "deplorable" and refuse to see beyond their racisim, homophobia, anti-abortion crap and all kinds of intolerance to understand that these people feel powerless. Blaming immigrants or trans people for all their problems gives them power, because they have none. And they are afraid. If the Dems can eat a little humble pie and admit their holier-than-thou policies have turned off people whose interests actually do align with those of the Democrats despite their offensive biases, the Dems might have a fighting chance to stop the Trump Musk bulldozer/fascist onslaught. I'm not holding my breath....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It takes 3 votes to be rid of him and have a counter revolution. Nov. 2026. House vote (impeach), Senate vote (convict). It could be sooner if people can unite around the concept of rule of law. Then 2 votes. 1 house. 1 senate.

November 2026 is way too late. If this isn't ended in the next month or two, we are done.

Sadly, I agree. We can't wait for the midterms. Democrats must unite and fight the totalitarian takeover of our government and our entire country. Institutions are falling daily -- universities, the Federal Election Commission, major law firms, the list grows each day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:(1) Democrats should stop with the identity politics.
(2) Democrats should stop talking down to people. It's really insulting.
(3) Democrats should stop embracing socialistic policies. Capitalism, despite its inherent faults, entrepreneurialism, and our natural resources is what made this country an economic powerhouse. Don't kill the golden goose.
(4) Democrats should drop the boys playing in girls sports, dressing in bathrooms, etc.
(5) Democrats need to have strong foreign policies. They're viewed as weak by the world. And our enemies took advantage of it.
(6) Democrats should follow the Republican lead on cutting government waste and fraud. We're $37 Trillion in debt for pete's sake. This is a national security issue. We're paying over $1 Trillion in interest on this debt a year. Something has to give. We can't lose the world reserve currency status.
(7) Democrats should stop taxing the crap out of Americans.
(8) Democrats should become more business friendly.
(9) Democrats should push personal responsibility and not "the government will take care of everything for you" policies. Less government.
(10) Democrats should stop the "we're against Trump on everything".
(11) Democrats should stop the "nazis", "attack on Democracy", blah, blah blah. It's a bunch of BS and no one buys it.
(12) Democrats need to back our sovereign borders and legal immigration. Get rid of birthright citizenship. That was for a different time. No more anchor babies. Stop free healthcare of illegals.
(13) Democrats need to find a more moderate leader that's not based on what race, sex, sexuality, ethnicity, etc they are.
(14) Democrats need to stop politicizing government agencies such as the DoJ or IRS for instance.
(15) Democrats need to stop listening to James Carville.

Excellent list!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dems need to, as Ezra Klein put it, face why Trump won.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/democrats-need-to-face-why-trump-won/id1548604447?i=1000699618199

They need to stop their need for political purity and their resulting in-fighting. It's ridiculous to call for Schumer's resignation. It's the same as the GOP calling for judges to be impeached.

They need to refocus their message on the working class. The people barely surviving through a gig economy, with inflation and possibly stagflation coming their way. They need to look at whole systems to understand why there are housing shortages and not primarily focus on helping the most vulnerable. Don't stop helping them, but that can't be your main messaging. Your messaging has to be we are all in this together. Let's create opportunity for all, so that all can thrive.

You have to stop demonizing whole classes of people. Police, white men, Karens. Republicans themselves. It feels good. I get it. I feel it too. But you are alienating half the nation. We talk about being inclusive. Walk the walk. Include those you disagree with. Make genuine room for diversity of perspective too.

I could have written this post myself.
yes, I agree 100%
I don't call myself a Democrat any more because I'm sickened by the spinless wimps who are unable to fight Trump. Why did we elect these people?
I tell everyone I can that diversity means including those you don't agree with, but I'm not getting much of an audience for that message, sadly. I get why Magas hate Democrats. They feel disrespected by Democrats who call them "deplorable" and refuse to see beyond their racisim, homophobia, anti-abortion crap and all kinds of intolerance to understand that these people feel powerless. Blaming immigrants or trans people for all their problems gives them power, because they have none. And they are afraid. If the Dems can eat a little humble pie and admit their holier-than-thou policies have turned off people whose interests actually do align with those of the Democrats despite their offensive biases, the Dems might have a fighting chance to stop the Trump Musk bulldozer/fascist onslaught. I'm not holding my breath....

Or these people need to form their own party. The Dem party already is the one creating, advocating and pushing forward policies that most support all Americans. Have they made mistakes along the way, sure, but their commitment towards progress haas been unwavering. Millions have already made sacrifices in the name of the above. I’m not making anymore so people can hold onto their biases and feel powerful. If that’s why they choose Trump, fine that’s their right. I hope they feel better. But, don’t now ask me to fix what gets broken.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:January 6th is everything to me

I was traumatized by that and can't fathom how the Republicans rationalize it.

Just had a day long argument with my mother, who'd rationalizing why it's OK my spouse just got fired from the feds, and she seems to think J6 was only about 4-6 hours long, so it's implausible that 1,500 or more would be arrested and convicted. That there must be shenanigans in the prosecution somehow.

I asked her if she had read the Jan 6 committee report. https://www.amazon.com/January-6-Report-6th-Committee/dp/0063315505. Nope.

Or Jack Smith's report. https://electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/report-of-special-counsel-smith-volume-1-january-2025.pdf Nope.

Or Michael Fanone's book. Nope. Harry Dunn's? Nope. Aquilino Gonell's? Nope.

The Breach by a Republican congressman? Perhaps more believable to her. Nope. https://www.amazon.com/Breach-Untold-Story-Investigation-January/dp/1250866766

Has she viewed body worn camera footage? Nope.

Everyone needs to go to primary sources. The days are over where media was a reliable secondary source of information.

I would sit her down on the couch and pull it up on the TV.

Your poor mother. You should leave her alone.

dcurbanmoms can’t help ourselves. We take the MOST hyperpartisan spin we could possibly create (“this was an armed insurrection!”) and then we pretend to ourselves that it wasn’t written by political hacks but rather by the Encyclopedia Brittannica. Or God.

You are almost certainly too politically biased to be objective about Jan6. As such, you are wuite possibly mistaken about much of it, and you are making a big mistake lecturing your mom about it.

My buddy from San Francisco spent a lot of time lecturing his elderly father about race, trans issues, etc. he regrets it now.

I’ve gone down this oath many times. It’s not worth it. Nobody needs a political education from any of us. Tread carefully, that’s my unsolicited free advice. Sorry if this is offensive , but I’m telling youbthis out of love. J6 is old news. Swing voters don’t care about and don’t agree with you. Changing your mom’s mind will accomplish nothing. But it mights train your relationship. Why choose a topic that upsets you for conversations with your Mom.

I’m a swing voter that was terrified by the Jan 6 riots. What is the “objective” perspective? Seriously asking.

I’m talking about all the swing voters who voted for Trump. Not about you

[Anonymous]

Dems should advocate for the return of the fairness doctrine and update it to allow for the internet. The real issue is the way we are receiving news. Red news and blue news is not working and just dividing us.