Psyched! He's closing the Department of Education in Washignton DC

[Anonymous]

Does this mean our student loans are banished? Gone for good? No more debt?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You all act like we didn’t have schools prior to the department of Ed’s creation in 1970s. Since its implementation, billions spent and objectively worse educational outcomes across the board.

+1

It’s so bad.

That’s why all the dcum moms fight like heck to send their kids to private schools.

There’s entire forums here dedicated to getting their kids into private schools because public schools are so poorly run, dangerous, etc, and the quality of education so abysmal.

Total hypocrites.

Send your children to public school, run by the DOE. You won’t! You’d rather die.

For the millionth effing time: the Federal DOE does not set curriculums for local schools. If your schools suck it's because of the state or local board, combined with - I'll say it - bad parenting that doesn't value education.

But they do, sort of. For one, DOE created No Child Left Behind, which forced every single public school in every state to make standardized tests the focus of the curriculum, and then report those results to the DOE and face punishment for not scoring high enough. Then they put out Common Core (a curriculum) and forced us all to align with that to one degree or another. The current state of education - abysmal - was nearly entirely shaped by the testing policies of NCLB, which teachers said then and are still saying did tremendous damage to the system, and to students.

This! People don’t understand how devastating this has been to education in the US. It used to be most school kids took standardized tests like the Iowa Test of Basic skills or state created test that had results on percentile ranks so teachers and parents could figure out where their child ranked in reading, spelling, math calculation and math word problems.

Starting in around 2001 the DOR mandated tests where students had ti meet a set standard. But the cut points are ridiculous. Parents don’t get a percentile rank. So many kids don’t pass because it is an arbitrary cut point where passing is fir each grade.

In order to have the maximum number of students pass schools no longer have teachers teach novels. That isn’t tested. Just short passages so all the focus is now on reading short passages. Basic calculation skills are no longer emphasized.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does this mean our student loans are banished? Gone for good? No more debt?

if so this is great news

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does this mean our student loans are banished? Gone for good? No more debt?

if so this is great news

Haha, no. In fact, they’ll reinstate the one Biden forgave

[Anonymous]

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So blue states aren't going to be subsidizing education in poor red states anymore? Okay. I guess that's what's happening.

The red state people will become dumber and more likely to keep voting maga.

Not trolling here but generally curious why so many college kids (not just conservative) are heading to SEC colleges in droves. UTenn, UK, Auburn, Alabama, SC all so popular at our MD high school now. Will these kids migrate to red states after graduation? Are these colleges any good? How are they funded if these states don't prioritize education funding?

The schools are less selective/easier to get in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all act like we didn’t have schools prior to the department of Ed’s creation in 1970s. Since its implementation, billions spent and objectively worse educational outcomes across the board.

+1

It’s so bad.

That’s why all the dcum moms fight like heck to send their kids to private schools.

There’s entire forums here dedicated to getting their kids into private schools because public schools are so poorly run, dangerous, etc, and the quality of education so abysmal.

Total hypocrites.

Send your children to public school, run by the DOE. You won’t! You’d rather die.

For the millionth effing time: the Federal DOE does not set curriculums for local schools. If your schools suck it's because of the state or local board, combined with - I'll say it - bad parenting that doesn't value education.

But they do, sort of. For one, DOE created No Child Left Behind, which forced every single public school in every state to make standardized tests the focus of the curriculum, and then report those results to the DOE and face punishment for not scoring high enough. Then they put out Common Core (a curriculum) and forced us all to align with that to one degree or another. The current state of education - abysmal - was nearly entirely shaped by the testing policies of NCLB, which teachers said then and are still saying did tremendous damage to the system, and to students.

This! People don’t understand how devastating this has been to education in the US. It used to be most school kids took standardized tests like the Iowa Test of Basic skills or state created test that had results on percentile ranks so teachers and parents could figure out where their child ranked in reading, spelling, math calculation and math word problems.

Starting in around 2001 the DOR mandated tests where students had ti meet a set standard. But the cut points are ridiculous. Parents don’t get a percentile rank. So many kids don’t pass because it is an arbitrary cut point where passing is fir each grade.

In order to have the maximum number of students pass schools no longer have teachers teach novels. That isn’t tested. Just short passages so all the focus is now on reading short passages. Basic calculation skills are no longer emphasized.

2001… who was the president then?

A Republican! A Republican destroying education! You must be joking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
So blue states aren't going to be subsidizing education in poor red states anymore? Okay. I guess that's what's happening.

The red state people will become dumber and more likely to keep voting maga.

Not trolling here but generally curious why so many college kids (not just conservative) are heading to SEC colleges in droves. UTenn, UK, Auburn, Alabama, SC all so popular at our MD high school now. Will these kids migrate to red states after graduation? Are these colleges any good? How are they funded if these states don't prioritize education funding?

The schools are less selective/easier to get in.

They also give a ton of money to pseudo-high stats kids from other states to raise their own averages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all act like we didn’t have schools prior to the department of Ed’s creation in 1970s. Since its implementation, billions spent and objectively worse educational outcomes across the board.

+1

It’s so bad.

That’s why all the dcum moms fight like heck to send their kids to private schools.

There’s entire forums here dedicated to getting their kids into private schools because public schools are so poorly run, dangerous, etc, and the quality of education so abysmal.

Total hypocrites.

Send your children to public school, run by the DOE. You won’t! You’d rather die.

For the millionth effing time: the Federal DOE does not set curriculums for local schools. If your schools suck it's because of the state or local board, combined with - I'll say it - bad parenting that doesn't value education.

But they do, sort of. For one, DOE created No Child Left Behind, which forced every single public school in every state to make standardized tests the focus of the curriculum, and then report those results to the DOE and face punishment for not scoring high enough. Then they put out Common Core (a curriculum) and forced us all to align with that to one degree or another. The current state of education - abysmal - was nearly entirely shaped by the testing policies of NCLB, which teachers said then and are still saying did tremendous damage to the system, and to students.

This! People don’t understand how devastating this has been to education in the US. It used to be most school kids took standardized tests like the Iowa Test of Basic skills or state created test that had results on percentile ranks so teachers and parents could figure out where their child ranked in reading, spelling, math calculation and math word problems.

Starting in around 2001 the DOR mandated tests where students had ti meet a set standard. But the cut points are ridiculous. Parents don’t get a percentile rank. So many kids don’t pass because it is an arbitrary cut point where passing is fir each grade.

In order to have the maximum number of students pass schools no longer have teachers teach novels. That isn’t tested. Just short passages so all the focus is now on reading short passages. Basic calculation skills are no longer emphasized.

There hasn't been a single standardized test that my kids have taken that they considered hard. If kids can't pass these low bar exams, that's not the fault of teachers and schools. It's the fault of parents who aren't teaching their kids from infancy good habits and later on making sure their kids are doing the work. I'm sure there are many parents like myself who wish that the standardized tests were harder so that it could differentiate better instead of trying to make the lower 25%ile feel better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does this mean our student loans are banished? Gone for good? No more debt?

if so this is great news

GTFO we repaid our loans in advance even though we couldn't comfortably afford to. Do we get a refund on the repayment, too, with interest??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all act like we didn’t have schools prior to the department of Ed’s creation in 1970s. Since its implementation, billions spent and objectively worse educational outcomes across the board.

+1

It’s so bad.

That’s why all the dcum moms fight like heck to send their kids to private schools.

There’s entire forums here dedicated to getting their kids into private schools because public schools are so poorly run, dangerous, etc, and the quality of education so abysmal.

Total hypocrites.

Send your children to public school, run by the DOE. You won’t! You’d rather die.

For the millionth effing time: the Federal DOE does not set curriculums for local schools. If your schools suck it's because of the state or local board, combined with - I'll say it - bad parenting that doesn't value education.

But they do, sort of. For one, DOE created No Child Left Behind, which forced every single public school in every state to make standardized tests the focus of the curriculum, and then report those results to the DOE and face punishment for not scoring high enough. Then they put out Common Core (a curriculum) and forced us all to align with that to one degree or another. The current state of education - abysmal - was nearly entirely shaped by the testing policies of NCLB, which teachers said then and are still saying did tremendous damage to the system, and to students.

This! People don’t understand how devastating this has been to education in the US. It used to be most school kids took standardized tests like the Iowa Test of Basic skills or state created test that had results on percentile ranks so teachers and parents could figure out where their child ranked in reading, spelling, math calculation and math word problems.

Starting in around 2001 the DOR mandated tests where students had ti meet a set standard. But the cut points are ridiculous. Parents don’t get a percentile rank. So many kids don’t pass because it is an arbitrary cut point where passing is fir each grade.

In order to have the maximum number of students pass schools no longer have teachers teach novels. That isn’t tested. Just short passages so all the focus is now on reading short passages. Basic calculation skills are no longer emphasized.

2001… who was the president then?

A Republican! A Republican destroying education! You must be joking.

Check out the stats on high school grads.

Then tell us how Trump is going to destroy what is already rubble.

[Anonymous]

How does a President logistically close a department? By defunding it, which would have to be done via budget? By saying "it's closed"? What are the checks and balances? Could a future President say "I'm closing the Department of Defense and sending defense back to the states"? Or "I'm closing the Social Security Administration and sending fiscal responsibility back to the senior citizens"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does this mean our student loans are banished? Gone for good? No more debt?

if so this is great news

Haha, no. In fact, they’ll reinstate the one Biden forgave

Who would be the servicer? Aren’t all of them tied back to DOE?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How does a President logistically close a department? By defunding it, which would have to be done via budget? By saying "it's closed"? What are the checks and balances? Could a future President say "I'm closing the Department of Defense and sending defense back to the states"? Or "I'm closing the Social Security Administration and sending fiscal responsibility back to the senior citizens"?

It wasn’t really a DOE mission as we know it today until 1980.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does a President logistically close a department? By defunding it, which would have to be done via budget? By saying "it's closed"? What are the checks and balances? Could a future President say "I'm closing the Department of Defense and sending defense back to the states"? Or "I'm closing the Social Security Administration and sending fiscal responsibility back to the senior citizens"?

It wasn’t really a DOE mission as we know it today until 1980.

The DHS was created in 2002. So it's eligible for the chopping block at the whim of a President?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all act like we didn’t have schools prior to the department of Ed’s creation in 1970s. Since its implementation, billions spent and objectively worse educational outcomes across the board.

+1

It’s so bad.

That’s why all the dcum moms fight like heck to send their kids to private schools.

There’s entire forums here dedicated to getting their kids into private schools because public schools are so poorly run, dangerous, etc, and the quality of education so abysmal.

Total hypocrites.

Send your children to public school, run by the DOE. You won’t! You’d rather die.

For the millionth effing time: the Federal DOE does not set curriculums for local schools. If your schools suck it's because of the state or local board, combined with - I'll say it - bad parenting that doesn't value education.

But they do, sort of. For one, DOE created No Child Left Behind, which forced every single public school in every state to make standardized tests the focus of the curriculum, and then report those results to the DOE and face punishment for not scoring high enough. Then they put out Common Core (a curriculum) and forced us all to align with that to one degree or another. The current state of education - abysmal - was nearly entirely shaped by the testing policies of NCLB, which teachers said then and are still saying did tremendous damage to the system, and to students.

This! People don’t understand how devastating this has been to education in the US. It used to be most school kids took standardized tests like the Iowa Test of Basic skills or state created test that had results on percentile ranks so teachers and parents could figure out where their child ranked in reading, spelling, math calculation and math word problems.

Starting in around 2001 the DOR mandated tests where students had ti meet a set standard. But the cut points are ridiculous. Parents don’t get a percentile rank. So many kids don’t pass because it is an arbitrary cut point where passing is fir each grade.

In order to have the maximum number of students pass schools no longer have teachers teach novels. That isn’t tested. Just short passages so all the focus is now on reading short passages. Basic calculation skills are no longer emphasized.

2001… who was the president then?

A Republican! A Republican destroying education! You must be joking.

Check out the stats on high school grads.

Then tell us how Trump is going to destroy what is already rubble.

Education is implemented at the local level, not the national level. If you have a problem with stats on HS grads in your school district, take it up with your school board.