Psyched! He's closing the Department of Education in Washignton DC

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Anonymous wrote:So no more special education, no more FAFSA, no more Pell Grants.

I guess the goal is to keep everyone stupid and poor.

Don't worry, the rich kids can still go to college.

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Anonymous wrote:Special Ed is gone. That’s funded by the federal government.

Which sucks, because my son has an IEP and he gets services 4 days/week. He’s mainstreamed and those services have been critical to his development.

But if you are in a blue state, they will remain. Probably enhanced because your state isn’t also carrying a taker state.

Of you are in a red state—- well, FAFO, I guess.

IDEA would still be federal law. They would still have some form of plan but without the Office of Civil Rights (protector of rights and IEPs for special education in the DOE) these plans may become harder to enforce.

IDEA is already not enforced.

Give the enforcement to DOJ. Specifically the Civil Division. They would do a much better job than the DOE Office of Civil Rights.

IDEA enforcement is delegated to the states, not to OCR.
OCR is supposed to handle discrimination, which is a bit different, and there can be overlapping claims.
IDEA complaints, mediation, and due process are ALL handled at the state level (unless a due process case ends up going to federal court).

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^^ Also, DOJ does not act on civil rights claims for disabilities for the most part, it's a resource issue.

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This isn't something Trump said recently.

I don't know when the clip was recorded, but it wasn't since the election.

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Anonymous wrote:I think we will very soon learn that the only thing needed for education is a good teacher, chalk and a black board. Our education system isn't failing because it's not well funded enough. It's failing because these kids have way too many corporate backed distractions.

And we all know that Trump is planning on supporting teachers by increasing their pay and benefits, because that's how you get good teachers.

I can't even type that with a serious face.

Many of the good teachers have already quit or retired because of burnout due to chaos and enforcing woke policies. Many of the newer ones can't even write competently so they have no business grading essays. Arguing for blanket pay raises makes no sense. If you say that only good teachers should get paid more because this will incentivize more competent people to also become teachers, most people will be on board.

How do you measure teacher quality? Standardized tests? Student questionnaire? Admin observation? Student growth? Parent feedback? Who will take on this task? I can see a ton of lawsuits ahead.
It is more than the “woke” stuff that is pushing teachers away from this career. Obnoxious parents, violent students, loads and loads of paperwork, lack of planning time, lack of respect and exhaustion come to mind.

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Anonymous wrote:So no more special education, no more FAFSA, no more Pell Grants.

I guess the goal is to keep everyone stupid and poor.

Don't worry, the rich kids can still go to college.

That is the point.

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Anonymous wrote:You all act like we didn’t have schools prior to the department of Ed’s creation in 1970s. Since its implementation, billions spent and objectively worse educational outcomes across the board.

+1

It’s so bad.

That’s why all the dcum moms fight like heck to send their kids to private schools.

There’s entire forums here dedicated to getting their kids into private schools because public schools are so poorly run, dangerous, etc, and the quality of education so abysmal.

Total hypocrites.

Send your children to public school, run by the DOE. You won’t! You’d rather die.

For the millionth effing time: the Federal DOE does not set curriculums for local schools. If your schools suck it's because of the state or local board, combined with - I'll say it - bad parenting that doesn't value education.

But they do, sort of. For one, DOE created No Child Left Behind, which forced every single public school in every state to make standardized tests the focus of the curriculum, and then report those results to the DOE and face punishment for not scoring high enough. Then they put out Common Core (a curriculum) and forced us all to align with that to one degree or another. The current state of education - abysmal - was nearly entirely shaped by the testing policies of NCLB, which teachers said then and are still saying did tremendous damage to the system, and to students.

You're laying all this at the feet of the DOE when, in fact, both initiatives were not DOE creations.

NCLB
The No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 (NCLB)[1][2] was a 2002 U.S. Act of Congress promoted by the presidency of George W. Bush.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Child_Left_Behind_Act

Common Core
The Common Core State Standards Initiative, also known as simply Common Core, was an American, multi-state educational initiative begun in 2010 with the goal of increasing consistency across state standards, or what K–12 students throughout the United States should know in English language arts and mathematics at the conclusion of each school grade. The initiative was sponsored by the National Governors Association and the Council of Chief State School Officers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Core

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Anonymous wrote:This isn't something Trump said recently.

I don't know when the clip was recorded, but it wasn't since the election.

People are publicizing all the nutty things he’s said in the last ~2 years and acting as if they are as good as EOs. To scare or to troll or to preview the delightful things to come!

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Anonymous wrote:You all act like we didn’t have schools prior to the department of Ed’s creation in 1970s. Since its implementation, billions spent and objectively worse educational outcomes across the board.

+1

It’s so bad.

That’s why all the dcum moms fight like heck to send their kids to private schools.

There’s entire forums here dedicated to getting their kids into private schools because public schools are so poorly run, dangerous, etc, and the quality of education so abysmal.

Total hypocrites.

Send your children to public school, run by the DOE. You won’t! You’d rather die.

For the millionth effing time: the Federal DOE does not set curriculums for local schools. If your schools suck it's because of the state or local board, combined with - I'll say it - bad parenting that doesn't value education.

Department of Education should have been eliminated long ago. The only reason it exists is to use federal grants to coerce local school districts into conforming to a leftist political agenda, and to serve as a centralized authority to push leftism nationwide.

Yes teaching children about the constitution and stuff has to stop!

Also all that making schools handicapped accessible is just moronic, apparently. Just a waste of money!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all act like we didn’t have schools prior to the department of Ed’s creation in 1970s. Since its implementation, billions spent and objectively worse educational outcomes across the board.

+1

It’s so bad.

That’s why all the dcum moms fight like heck to send their kids to private schools.

There’s entire forums here dedicated to getting their kids into private schools because public schools are so poorly run, dangerous, etc, and the quality of education so abysmal.

Total hypocrites.

Send your children to public school, run by the DOE. You won’t! You’d rather die.

For the millionth effing time: the Federal DOE does not set curriculums for local schools. If your schools suck it's because of the state or local board, combined with - I'll say it - bad parenting that doesn't value education.

Department of Education should have been eliminated long ago. The only reason it exists is to use federal grants to coerce local school districts into conforming to a leftist political agenda, and to serve as a centralized authority to push leftism nationwide.

Do you believe in chemtrails and bigfoot too?

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So blue states aren't going to be subsidizing education in poor red states anymore? Okay. I guess that's what's happening.

The red state people will become dumber and more likely to keep voting maga.

Not trolling here but generally curious why so many college kids (not just conservative) are heading to SEC colleges in droves. UTenn, UK, Auburn, Alabama, SC all so popular at our MD high school now. Will these kids migrate to red states after graduation? Are these colleges any good? How are they funded if these states don't prioritize education funding?

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Anonymous wrote:So no more special education, no more FAFSA, no more Pell Grants.

I guess the goal is to keep everyone stupid and poor.

Don't worry, the rich kids can still go to college.

That is the point.

Math. If fewer people apply, there is less competition for the desirable slots.

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Anonymous wrote:This isn't something Trump said recently.

I don't know when the clip was recorded, but it wasn't since the election.

People are publicizing all the nutty things he’s said in the last ~2 years and acting as if they are as good as EOs. To scare or to troll or to preview the delightful things to come!

Was it the tea leaves or the entrails we were supposed to look at to tell if he was serious or joking? I forgot.

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Anonymous wrote:This isn't something Trump said recently.

I don't know when the clip was recorded, but it wasn't since the election.

People are publicizing all the nutty things he’s said in the last ~2 years and acting as if they are as good as EOs. To scare or to troll or to preview the delightful things to come!

ABC reported on his Agenda 47 on the 7th. I already posted the link in this thread. I'm pretty sure that Elon just posted a tweet today with a video of him shutting the DoE.

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So blue states aren't going to be subsidizing education in poor red states anymore? Okay. I guess that's what's happening.

The red state people will become dumber and more likely to keep voting maga.

Not trolling here but generally curious why so many college kids (not just conservative) are heading to SEC colleges in droves. UTenn, UK, Auburn, Alabama, SC all so popular at our MD high school now. Will these kids migrate to red states after graduation? Are these colleges any good? How are they funded if these states don't prioritize education funding?

Pop culture. It’s huge now to pledge at certain heavy media promoted colleges all of which are in the south and SEC schools.