Psyched! He's closing the Department of Education in Washignton DC

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My main takeaway from this election is our citizens have no idea how our government functions it’s any level.

This thread is solid evidence of that.

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Anonymous wrote:You all act like we didn’t have schools prior to the department of Ed’s creation in 1970s. Since its implementation, billions spent and objectively worse educational outcomes across the board.

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It’s so bad.

That’s why all the dcum moms fight like heck to send their kids to private schools.

There’s entire forums here dedicated to getting their kids into private schools because public schools are so poorly run, dangerous, etc, and the quality of education so abysmal.

Total hypocrites.

Send your children to public school, run by the DOE. You won’t! You’d rather die.

For the millionth effing time: the Federal DOE does not set curriculums for local schools. If your schools suck it's because of the state or local board, combined with - I'll say it - bad parenting that doesn't value education.

But they do, sort of. For one, DOE created No Child Left Behind, which forced every single public school in every state to make standardized tests the focus of the curriculum, and then report those results to the DOE and face punishment for not scoring high enough. Then they put out Common Core (a curriculum) and forced us all to align with that to one degree or another. The current state of education - abysmal - was nearly entirely shaped by the testing policies of NCLB, which teachers said then and are still saying did tremendous damage to the system, and to students.

This! People don’t understand how devastating this has been to education in the US. It used to be most school kids took standardized tests like the Iowa Test of Basic skills or state created test that had results on percentile ranks so teachers and parents could figure out where their child ranked in reading, spelling, math calculation and math word problems.

Starting in around 2001 the DOR mandated tests where students had ti meet a set standard. But the cut points are ridiculous. Parents don’t get a percentile rank. So many kids don’t pass because it is an arbitrary cut point where passing is fir each grade.

In order to have the maximum number of students pass schools no longer have teachers teach novels. That isn’t tested. Just short passages so all the focus is now on reading short passages. Basic calculation skills are no longer emphasized.

2001… who was the president then?

A Republican! A Republican destroying education! You must be joking.

Check out the stats on high school grads.

Then tell us how Trump is going to destroy what is already rubble.

Education is implemented at the local level, not the national level. If you have a problem with stats on HS grads in your school district, take it up with your school board.

So why do we need a department of education if education is local?

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Anonymous wrote:You all act like we didn’t have schools prior to the department of Ed’s creation in 1970s. Since its implementation, billions spent and objectively worse educational outcomes across the board.

+1

It’s so bad.

That’s why all the dcum moms fight like heck to send their kids to private schools.

There’s entire forums here dedicated to getting their kids into private schools because public schools are so poorly run, dangerous, etc, and the quality of education so abysmal.

Total hypocrites.

Send your children to public school, run by the DOE. You won’t! You’d rather die.

For the millionth effing time: the Federal DOE does not set curriculums for local schools. If your schools suck it's because of the state or local board, combined with - I'll say it - bad parenting that doesn't value education.

But they do, sort of. For one, DOE created No Child Left Behind, which forced every single public school in every state to make standardized tests the focus of the curriculum, and then report those results to the DOE and face punishment for not scoring high enough. Then they put out Common Core (a curriculum) and forced us all to align with that to one degree or another. The current state of education - abysmal - was nearly entirely shaped by the testing policies of NCLB, which teachers said then and are still saying did tremendous damage to the system, and to students.

This! People don’t understand how devastating this has been to education in the US. It used to be most school kids took standardized tests like the Iowa Test of Basic skills or state created test that had results on percentile ranks so teachers and parents could figure out where their child ranked in reading, spelling, math calculation and math word problems.

Starting in around 2001 the DOR mandated tests where students had ti meet a set standard. But the cut points are ridiculous. Parents don’t get a percentile rank. So many kids don’t pass because it is an arbitrary cut point where passing is fir each grade.

In order to have the maximum number of students pass schools no longer have teachers teach novels. That isn’t tested. Just short passages so all the focus is now on reading short passages. Basic calculation skills are no longer emphasized.

2001… who was the president then?

A Republican! A Republican destroying education! You must be joking.

Check out the stats on high school grads.

Then tell us how Trump is going to destroy what is already rubble.

Education is implemented at the local level, not the national level. If you have a problem with stats on HS grads in your school district, take it up with your school board.

So why do we need a department of education if education is local?

Exactly. Which is why it appears to be closing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My main takeaway from this election is our citizens have no idea how our government functions it’s any level.

This thread is solid evidence of that.

Even though it's an innocent typo, the fact that the OP misspelled "Washington" in the thread title feels soooooo on the nose here.

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Anonymous wrote:My main takeaway from this election is our citizens have no idea how our government functions it’s any level.

This thread is solid evidence of that.

Even though it's an innocent typo, the fact that the OP misspelled "Washington" in the thread title feels soooooo on the nose here.

The Department of Education spends about $200 million a year on research intended to improve educational practice. No evidence exists that these expenditures have done any significant good.

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Anonymous wrote:My main takeaway from this election is our citizens have no idea how our government functions it’s any level.

This thread is solid evidence of that.

Even though it's an innocent typo, the fact that the OP misspelled "Washington" in the thread title feels soooooo on the nose here.

The Department of Education spends about $200 million a year on research intended to improve educational practice. No evidence exists that these expenditures have done any significant good.

Which obviously means we should double spending!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You all act like we didn’t have schools prior to the department of Ed’s creation in 1970s. Since its implementation, billions spent and objectively worse educational outcomes across the board.

+1

It’s so bad.

That’s why all the dcum moms fight like heck to send their kids to private schools.

There’s entire forums here dedicated to getting their kids into private schools because public schools are so poorly run, dangerous, etc, and the quality of education so abysmal.

Total hypocrites.

Send your children to public school, run by the DOE. You won’t! You’d rather die.

For the millionth effing time: the Federal DOE does not set curriculums for local schools. If your schools suck it's because of the state or local board, combined with - I'll say it - bad parenting that doesn't value education.

But they do, sort of. For one, DOE created No Child Left Behind, which forced every single public school in every state to make standardized tests the focus of the curriculum, and then report those results to the DOE and face punishment for not scoring high enough. Then they put out Common Core (a curriculum) and forced us all to align with that to one degree or another. The current state of education - abysmal - was nearly entirely shaped by the testing policies of NCLB, which teachers said then and are still saying did tremendous damage to the system, and to students.

This! People don’t understand how devastating this has been to education in the US. It used to be most school kids took standardized tests like the Iowa Test of Basic skills or state created test that had results on percentile ranks so teachers and parents could figure out where their child ranked in reading, spelling, math calculation and math word problems.

Starting in around 2001 the DOR mandated tests where students had ti meet a set standard. But the cut points are ridiculous. Parents don’t get a percentile rank. So many kids don’t pass because it is an arbitrary cut point where passing is fir each grade.

In order to have the maximum number of students pass schools no longer have teachers teach novels. That isn’t tested. Just short passages so all the focus is now on reading short passages. Basic calculation skills are no longer emphasized.

There hasn't been a single standardized test that my kids have taken that they considered hard. If kids can't pass these low bar exams, that's not the fault of teachers and schools. It's the fault of parents who aren't teaching their kids from infancy good habits and later on making sure their kids are doing the work. I'm sure there are many parents like myself who wish that the standardized tests were harder so that it could differentiate better instead of trying to make the lower 25%ile feel better.

Can't you see that the emphasis on how many students pass is a detriment to the highest performing students as well? You children can pass, so the school doesn't care if they can go from the 85th percentile to the 95th percentile and really excel. It dumbs down education for everyone. In Maryland only 48.4% of students were proficient in English Language Arts and only 24.1% of students were proficient at Math. What is being tested in math that 3/4 of students can't meet standards. Are the standards really appropriate? And again if your child is one of the 1/4 of math students proficient then schools aren't as interested in helping your child excel, they are interested in trying to get kids who are just below the standard to pass.

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Anonymous wrote:You all act like we didn’t have schools prior to the department of Ed’s creation in 1970s. Since its implementation, billions spent and objectively worse educational outcomes across the board.

+1

It’s so bad.

That’s why all the dcum moms fight like heck to send their kids to private schools.

There’s entire forums here dedicated to getting their kids into private schools because public schools are so poorly run, dangerous, etc, and the quality of education so abysmal.

Total hypocrites.

Send your children to public school, run by the DOE. You won’t! You’d rather die.

For the millionth effing time: the Federal DOE does not set curriculums for local schools. If your schools suck it's because of the state or local board, combined with - I'll say it - bad parenting that doesn't value education.

But they do, sort of. For one, DOE created No Child Left Behind, which forced every single public school in every state to make standardized tests the focus of the curriculum, and then report those results to the DOE and face punishment for not scoring high enough. Then they put out Common Core (a curriculum) and forced us all to align with that to one degree or another. The current state of education - abysmal - was nearly entirely shaped by the testing policies of NCLB, which teachers said then and are still saying did tremendous damage to the system, and to students.

This! People don’t understand how devastating this has been to education in the US. It used to be most school kids took standardized tests like the Iowa Test of Basic skills or state created test that had results on percentile ranks so teachers and parents could figure out where their child ranked in reading, spelling, math calculation and math word problems.

Starting in around 2001 the DOR mandated tests where students had ti meet a set standard. But the cut points are ridiculous. Parents don’t get a percentile rank. So many kids don’t pass because it is an arbitrary cut point where passing is fir each grade.

In order to have the maximum number of students pass schools no longer have teachers teach novels. That isn’t tested. Just short passages so all the focus is now on reading short passages. Basic calculation skills are no longer emphasized.

2001… who was the president then?

A Republican! A Republican destroying education! You must be joking.

Check out the stats on high school grads.

Then tell us how Trump is going to destroy what is already rubble.

Education is implemented at the local level, not the national level. If you have a problem with stats on HS grads in your school district, take it up with your school board.

So why do we need a department of education if education is local?

Education is local. The Department of Education is not necessary if education is implemented at the local level.

[Anonymous]

Who will apply to these 17 vacancies at DoEd?

https://www.usajobs.gov/Search/Results?d=ED&k=Department%20of%20Education

Will those employees follow the money to the states? So not fired just move?

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Anonymous wrote:Why? I looked up and DC is ranked #16 in education in the country. That’s not a bad rank.

The top 10 best educated states are all blue states. It won’t change them. The poor states like Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, etc will be negatively affected.

https://scholaroo.com/report/state-education-rankings/

New York is ranked 6th.
California is ranked 40th.

Top 14 out of 15 are blue and the 15th is purple state.

This is because the higher rated states have some combination of old money, Jewish, and Asian households. If those people all moved to the south, those states would skyrocket in ranking.

Clearly you were educated in a red state.

I bet you live in a less diverse New England state.

Those are the ones in the top fifteen.

[Anonymous]

He is going to make sure we have 2 genders

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Anonymous wrote:You all act like we didn’t have schools prior to the department of Ed’s creation in 1970s. Since its implementation, billions spent and objectively worse educational outcomes across the board.

+1

It’s so bad.

That’s why all the dcum moms fight like heck to send their kids to private schools.

There’s entire forums here dedicated to getting their kids into private schools because public schools are so poorly run, dangerous, etc, and the quality of education so abysmal.

Total hypocrites.

Send your children to public school, run by the DOE. You won’t! You’d rather die.

For the millionth effing time: the Federal DOE does not set curriculums for local schools. If your schools suck it's because of the state or local board, combined with - I'll say it - bad parenting that doesn't value education.

But they do, sort of. For one, DOE created No Child Left Behind, which forced every single public school in every state to make standardized tests the focus of the curriculum, and then report those results to the DOE and face punishment for not scoring high enough. Then they put out Common Core (a curriculum) and forced us all to align with that to one degree or another. The current state of education - abysmal - was nearly entirely shaped by the testing policies of NCLB, which teachers said then and are still saying did tremendous damage to the system, and to students.

This! People don’t understand how devastating this has been to education in the US. It used to be most school kids took standardized tests like the Iowa Test of Basic skills or state created test that had results on percentile ranks so teachers and parents could figure out where their child ranked in reading, spelling, math calculation and math word problems.

Starting in around 2001 the DOR mandated tests where students had ti meet a set standard. But the cut points are ridiculous. Parents don’t get a percentile rank. So many kids don’t pass because it is an arbitrary cut point where passing is fir each grade.

In order to have the maximum number of students pass schools no longer have teachers teach novels. That isn’t tested. Just short passages so all the focus is now on reading short passages. Basic calculation skills are no longer emphasized.

2001… who was the president then?

A Republican! A Republican destroying education! You must be joking.

Check out the stats on high school grads.

Then tell us how Trump is going to destroy what is already rubble.

Education is implemented at the local level, not the national level. If you have a problem with stats on HS grads in your school district, take it up with your school board.

So why do we need a department of education if education is local?

Anonymous wrote:My main takeaway from this election is our citizens have no idea how our government functions it’s any level.

This thread is solid evidence of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all act like we didn’t have schools prior to the department of Ed’s creation in 1970s. Since its implementation, billions spent and objectively worse educational outcomes across the board.

+1

It’s so bad.

That’s why all the dcum moms fight like heck to send their kids to private schools.

There’s entire forums here dedicated to getting their kids into private schools because public schools are so poorly run, dangerous, etc, and the quality of education so abysmal.

Total hypocrites.

Send your children to public school, run by the DOE. You won’t! You’d rather die.

For the millionth effing time: the Federal DOE does not set curriculums for local schools. If your schools suck it's because of the state or local board, combined with - I'll say it - bad parenting that doesn't value education.

But they do, sort of. For one, DOE created No Child Left Behind, which forced every single public school in every state to make standardized tests the focus of the curriculum, and then report those results to the DOE and face punishment for not scoring high enough. Then they put out Common Core (a curriculum) and forced us all to align with that to one degree or another. The current state of education - abysmal - was nearly entirely shaped by the testing policies of NCLB, which teachers said then and are still saying did tremendous damage to the system, and to students.

This! People don’t understand how devastating this has been to education in the US. It used to be most school kids took standardized tests like the Iowa Test of Basic skills or state created test that had results on percentile ranks so teachers and parents could figure out where their child ranked in reading, spelling, math calculation and math word problems.

Starting in around 2001 the DOR mandated tests where students had ti meet a set standard. But the cut points are ridiculous. Parents don’t get a percentile rank. So many kids don’t pass because it is an arbitrary cut point where passing is fir each grade.

In order to have the maximum number of students pass schools no longer have teachers teach novels. That isn’t tested. Just short passages so all the focus is now on reading short passages. Basic calculation skills are no longer emphasized.

2001… who was the president then?

A Republican! A Republican destroying education! You must be joking.

Check out the stats on high school grads.

Then tell us how Trump is going to destroy what is already rubble.

Education is implemented at the local level, not the national level. If you have a problem with stats on HS grads in your school district, take it up with your school board.

So why do we need a department of education if education is local?

At this point we need to pin some factoids for dimwitted MAGA so that we don't have to repeat ourselves all day long.

Because the DoE administers federal funding for public schools and federal student aid programs, among other things. They do not control curricula.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My main takeaway from this election is our citizens have no idea how our government functions it’s any level.

This thread is solid evidence of that.

Yup.

They also don’t understand the economy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He is going to make sure we have 2 genders

First they came for the transgender people.

Then they came for the gays.

Then they came for single mothers…

We know where this is headed. It’s all mapped out in Project 2025.