"Is MCPS losing its edge?"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The reality is that 50% of children in the U.S. have a history of poverty.

This is due to the economic policies of the U.S. where we have 800+ billionaires who have more combined wealth than the combined wealth of 50% of the U.S. population.

Schools are not able address this. Band aides at most to keep giving kids a fighting chance at success in life.

No, it is not because we have billionaires. It is because most children are being born to poor immigrants and low income parents from "generational poverty." And the tide of new poor children keeps coming every year.

That's your opinion. Data show that wealth inequality is higher in the United States than in almost any other developed country and has risen for much of the past 60 years. We have billionaires who pay zero dollars in taxes and our national infrastructure and schools show it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just read the article online. So depressing but so true. MCPS is a sinking ship. Let’s hope someone at the top has some common sense and can attempt to improve things. I teach HS in MCPS and the only thing my administration seems concerned about is the anti-racism audit.

The crazy thing is, from my vantage point as a parent, no one in MCPS is actually DOING anything with the audit. Like no meaningful or impactful systemic changes have come from it. It's just this document that we have that exists.

There are things being done. Like explicitly calling for diverse perspectives in ELA and SS curriculum RFPs. Requiring SIP plans to be published on school websites. Restorative Justice (even if not being done well everywhere. Training for Staff (although I question some of the choices of training). Having conversations and asking questions. Having students explore missing voices.

If you think any of the things you mentioned, which I’m not even going to get into the degree to which those things you cited are actually systemically done with quality and fidelity, are moving the needle on making our system less racist and improving outcomes for non-white students, you are insane.

Umm then what would you do? You can’t just snap your fingers and make people think differently you have to educate them. You can’t help schools change or be sure kids see themselves in the classroom without materials and staff that reflect a diverse population, experiences, and voices. You can’t ensure kids are getting an education if they are suspended more for the same behaviors others get a warning about. You also can’t change the trajectory of kids lives if they are never taught the problems that their behavior created and how it destroyed trust, calm, civility and then implement a plan for them to make actual restitution and rehabilitation.

[Anonymous]

If anyone believes billionaires send their kids to MCPS or cares deeply about MCPS, I think you’re delusional. If anyone on the BoE, Council or MCPS CO believe parents (the majority of taxpayers and voters) will tolerate a declining school system as the Council raises property taxes and MCPS dishes out fat six-figure salaries, you too are delusional. If MCPS doesn’t focus on basic education, keeping facilities renovated and safe, make competitive programs merit based versus friends-and-family programs, watch the slide turn into an avalanche. Anyone who believes pet projects and social agendas such as electric buses or millions wasted on kid museum and bocce ball; keep it up. In time the tolerance for corruption wears out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is that 50% of children in the U.S. have a history of poverty.

This is due to the economic policies of the U.S. where we have 800+ billionaires who have more combined wealth than the combined wealth of 50% of the U.S. population.

Schools are not able address this. Band aides at most to keep giving kids a fighting chance at success in life.

No, it is not because we have billionaires. It is because most children are being born to poor immigrants and low income parents from "generational poverty." And the tide of new poor children keeps coming every year.

That's your opinion. Data show that wealth inequality is higher in the United States than in almost any other developed country and has risen for much of the past 60 years. We have billionaires who pay zero dollars in taxes and our national infrastructure and schools show it.

Wealth inequality comes from an increase at the bottom also (basic statistics) and I don't think you understand taxation in this country (but you do listen to MSNBC, so good for you!)

[Anonymous]

thank god for private schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:thank god for private schools

Seriously. If I had to rely on public schools, my kid would be lost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If anyone believes billionaires send their kids to MCPS or cares deeply about MCPS, I think you’re delusional. If anyone on the BoE, Council or MCPS CO believe parents (the majority of taxpayers and voters) will tolerate a declining school system as the Council raises property taxes and MCPS dishes out fat six-figure salaries, you too are delusional. If MCPS doesn’t focus on basic education, keeping facilities renovated and safe, make competitive programs merit based versus friends-and-family programs, watch the slide turn into an avalanche. Anyone who believes pet projects and social agendas such as electric buses or millions wasted on kid museum and bocce ball; keep it up. In time the tolerance for corruption wears out.

Well said. The truly wealthy have never relied on MCPS to educate their kids.

It was the middle class and low-income families who relied on MCPS. It used to be that upper middle class families felt they comfortable and they were getting a good deal with MCPS, but now, those families are fleeing for private. Increasingly, even moderately middle class families are looking to how they can help their children escape the hellscape that is MCPS too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is that 50% of children in the U.S. have a history of poverty.

This is due to the economic policies of the U.S. where we have 800+ billionaires who have more combined wealth than the combined wealth of 50% of the U.S. population.

Schools are not able address this. Band aides at most to keep giving kids a fighting chance at success in life.

No, it is not because we have billionaires. It is because most children are being born to poor immigrants and low income parents from "generational poverty." And the tide of new poor children keeps coming every year.

That's your opinion. Data show that wealth inequality is higher in the United States than in almost any other developed country and has risen for much of the past 60 years. We have billionaires who pay zero dollars in taxes and our national infrastructure and schools show it.

Except the US spends some of the most money per kid in school out of all industrialized nations. MoCo is well above national average. Yet performance continues to sink and the quality of the schools go down the sh!tter every year.

It doesn't matter how much money you spend when you import the entire 3rd world who can't even speak English. Or you have a bunch of ahole parents who impose zero discipline on their kids.

You'd see performance improve if they brought back the switch and whopped their asses in public whenever they wanted to disrupt the classroom. If the parents won't do it, schools should.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First of all only the top 2 W schools are the well regarded MCPS schools. MCPS overall was not uniformly good.

Second SAT and ACT scores are a combo of the students studying and parents paying for tutoring. So scores good or bad have little to do with the schools.

demographics => SES -> outcomes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is that 50% of children in the U.S. have a history of poverty.

This is due to the economic policies of the U.S. where we have 800+ billionaires who have more combined wealth than the combined wealth of 50% of the U.S. population.

Schools are not able address this. Band aides at most to keep giving kids a fighting chance at success in life.

No, it is not because we have billionaires. It is because most children are being born to poor immigrants and low income parents from "generational poverty." And the tide of new poor children keeps coming every year.

That's your opinion. Data show that wealth inequality is higher in the United States than in almost any other developed country and has risen for much of the past 60 years. We have billionaires who pay zero dollars in taxes and our national infrastructure and schools show it.

Except the US spends some of the most money per kid in school out of all industrialized nations. MoCo is well above national average. Yet performance continues to sink and the quality of the schools go down the sh!tter every year.

It doesn't matter how much money you spend when you import the entire 3rd world who can't even speak English. Or you have a bunch of ahole parents who impose zero discipline on their kids.

You'd see performance improve if they brought back the switch and whopped their asses in public whenever they wanted to disrupt the classroom. If the parents won't do it, schools should.

Interesting but I've heard RJ is a lot more effective than corporal punishment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is that 50% of children in the U.S. have a history of poverty.

This is due to the economic policies of the U.S. where we have 800+ billionaires who have more combined wealth than the combined wealth of 50% of the U.S. population.

Schools are not able address this. Band aides at most to keep giving kids a fighting chance at success in life.

No, it is not because we have billionaires. It is because most children are being born to poor immigrants and low income parents from "generational poverty." And the tide of new poor children keeps coming every year.

That's your opinion. Data show that wealth inequality is higher in the United States than in almost any other developed country and has risen for much of the past 60 years. We have billionaires who pay zero dollars in taxes and our national infrastructure and schools show it.

Except the US spends some of the most money per kid in school out of all industrialized nations. MoCo is well above national average. Yet performance continues to sink and the quality of the schools go down the sh!tter every year.

It doesn't matter how much money you spend when you import the entire 3rd world who can't even speak English. Or you have a bunch of ahole parents who impose zero discipline on their kids.

You'd see performance improve if they brought back the switch and whopped their asses in public whenever they wanted to disrupt the classroom. If the parents won't do it, schools should.

Interesting but I've heard RJ is a lot more effective than corporal punishment.

False dichotomy much? Let's just have real discipline with real consequences that students wish to avoid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is that 50% of children in the U.S. have a history of poverty.

This is due to the economic policies of the U.S. where we have 800+ billionaires who have more combined wealth than the combined wealth of 50% of the U.S. population.

Schools are not able address this. Band aides at most to keep giving kids a fighting chance at success in life.

No, it is not because we have billionaires. It is because most children are being born to poor immigrants and low income parents from "generational poverty." And the tide of new poor children keeps coming every year.

That's your opinion. Data show that wealth inequality is higher in the United States than in almost any other developed country and has risen for much of the past 60 years. We have billionaires who pay zero dollars in taxes and our national infrastructure and schools show it.

Except the US spends some of the most money per kid in school out of all industrialized nations. MoCo is well above national average. Yet performance continues to sink and the quality of the schools go down the sh!tter every year.

It doesn't matter how much money you spend when you import the entire 3rd world who can't even speak English. Or you have a bunch of ahole parents who impose zero discipline on their kids.

You'd see performance improve if they brought back the switch and whopped their asses in public whenever they wanted to disrupt the classroom. If the parents won't do it, schools should.

Interesting but I've heard RJ is a lot more effective than corporal punishment.

False dichotomy much? Let's just have real discipline with real consequences that students wish to avoid.

Seriously. Casting it as RJ be corporal punishment is a straw man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is that 50% of children in the U.S. have a history of poverty.

This is due to the economic policies of the U.S. where we have 800+ billionaires who have more combined wealth than the combined wealth of 50% of the U.S. population.

Schools are not able address this. Band aides at most to keep giving kids a fighting chance at success in life.

No, it is not because we have billionaires. It is because most children are being born to poor immigrants and low income parents from "generational poverty." And the tide of new poor children keeps coming every year.

That's your opinion. Data show that wealth inequality is higher in the United States than in almost any other developed country and has risen for much of the past 60 years. We have billionaires who pay zero dollars in taxes and our national infrastructure and schools show it.

Except the US spends some of the most money per kid in school out of all industrialized nations. MoCo is well above national average. Yet performance continues to sink and the quality of the schools go down the sh!tter every year.

It doesn't matter how much money you spend when you import the entire 3rd world who can't even speak English. Or you have a bunch of ahole parents who impose zero discipline on their kids.

You'd see performance improve if they brought back the switch and whopped their asses in public whenever they wanted to disrupt the classroom. If the parents won't do it, schools should.

Beating kids isn’t going to fix things but reopening up a school for kids with severe behavioral problems, fixing the curriculum, holding kids accountable with consequences are all good starts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is that 50% of children in the U.S. have a history of poverty.

This is due to the economic policies of the U.S. where we have 800+ billionaires who have more combined wealth than the combined wealth of 50% of the U.S. population.

Schools are not able address this. Band aides at most to keep giving kids a fighting chance at success in life.

No, it is not because we have billionaires. It is because most children are being born to poor immigrants and low income parents from "generational poverty." And the tide of new poor children keeps coming every year.

That's your opinion. Data show that wealth inequality is higher in the United States than in almost any other developed country and has risen for much of the past 60 years. We have billionaires who pay zero dollars in taxes and our national infrastructure and schools show it.

Except the US spends some of the most money per kid in school out of all industrialized nations. MoCo is well above national average. Yet performance continues to sink and the quality of the schools go down the sh!tter every year.

It doesn't matter how much money you spend when you import the entire 3rd world who can't even speak English. Or you have a bunch of ahole parents who impose zero discipline on their kids.

You'd see performance improve if they brought back the switch and whopped their asses in public whenever they wanted to disrupt the classroom. If the parents won't do it, schools should.

Interesting but I've heard RJ is a lot more effective than corporal punishment.

False dichotomy much? Let's just have real discipline with real consequences that students wish to avoid.

Seriously. Casting it as RJ be corporal punishment is a straw man.

Bring back detentions, Saturday school, failing kids, have them clean the school for vandalism, expel, suspend…..

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is that 50% of children in the U.S. have a history of poverty.

This is due to the economic policies of the U.S. where we have 800+ billionaires who have more combined wealth than the combined wealth of 50% of the U.S. population.

Schools are not able address this. Band aides at most to keep giving kids a fighting chance at success in life.

No, it is not because we have billionaires. It is because most children are being born to poor immigrants and low income parents from "generational poverty." And the tide of new poor children keeps coming every year.

That's your opinion. Data show that wealth inequality is higher in the United States than in almost any other developed country and has risen for much of the past 60 years. We have billionaires who pay zero dollars in taxes and our national infrastructure and schools show it.

Except the US spends some of the most money per kid in school out of all industrialized nations. MoCo is well above national average. Yet performance continues to sink and the quality of the schools go down the sh!tter every year.

It doesn't matter how much money you spend when you import the entire 3rd world who can't even speak English. Or you have a bunch of ahole parents who impose zero discipline on their kids.

You'd see performance improve if they brought back the switch and whopped their asses in public whenever they wanted to disrupt the classroom. If the parents won't do it, schools should.

Interesting but I've heard RJ is a lot more effective than corporal punishment.

False dichotomy much? Let's just have real discipline with real consequences that students wish to avoid.

Seriously. Casting it as RJ be corporal punishment is a straw man.

Bring back detentions, Saturday school, failing kids, have them clean the school for vandalism, expel, suspend…..

Detention, expulsion and suspension are punitive disciplinary responses and MCPS and Maryland have turned away from them calling them racist and/or ineffective.

Nevermind that their so-called restorative practices have failed to prove effective either, but they are convinced the old ways were wrong and harmful.