"Is MCPS losing its edge?"

[Anonymous]

The reality is that 50% of children in the U.S. have a history of poverty.

This is due to the economic policies of the U.S. where we have 800+ billionaires who have more combined wealth than the combined wealth of 50% of the U.S. population.

Schools are not able address this. Band aides at most to keep giving kids a fighting chance at success in life.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, the county rolled out the carpet for illegal immigration. What do you expect?

They also have basically legalized criminal behavior in schools. Our cousins recently graduated from BCC. The stories they told of kids trashing bathrooms, doing drugs, fights, etc. Even the 'good' schools in MoCo are garbage. MCPS is just one gigantic baby sitting program that's very expensive. High schools aren't places where kids learn, but are just hangout clubs with criminals.

And even when it comes to learning, MCPS is a joke. You basically can't fail students. They can still pass by just attending a few classes even with tons of truancy. They get so many do overs, extra credits and re-tests. They bus ton of poverty into schools for equity purposes, but in the end result equity really equates to everything becoming a lot crappier because the bar is never raised for all of the poor kids and all of the English as a second language kids, they inevitably must lower the bar for everyone because they'd have to fail too many students who clearly can't pass.

I seriously don't understand why taxes go up for this freak show. Liberals and progressives are getting exactly what they voted for. I kinda hope it starts making people of means leave the county. Then property values will tank and the tax base for MoCo's progressive council in implodes.

MoCo is well on its way to becoming Baltimore in terms of failed schools, high crime, and stifling taxes that drive out everyone decent.

I know right? That's why MCPS has a 100% graduation rate...NOT.
Idiot

89.6% as of 2023.

Much higher than City of Baltimore, as it happens, which is 70%.

Comparing MCPS to City of Baltimore is setting the bar pathetically low.

My point is that there’s no way MCPS should be letting nearly 100% of the kids graduate when we know they’re not prepared for college or a career.

They have to because guess what groups would dominate the non graduating non prepared for college and career cohort.

Therefore the whole system is required to suck.

The whole system is not required to suck, it is required to be fair. Which means the person who started on third base then made it to home plate does always win more or is seen as more hardworking than the person who started in the dugout but made it to third base.

Watch the recent BOE presentation on the CREA program and Grace Rivera Oven to better understand what is meant by the above.

There are some real reviews and changes needed in part of MCPS and government generally.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, the county rolled out the carpet for illegal immigration. What do you expect?

They also have basically legalized criminal behavior in schools. Our cousins recently graduated from BCC. The stories they told of kids trashing bathrooms, doing drugs, fights, etc. Even the 'good' schools in MoCo are garbage. MCPS is just one gigantic baby sitting program that's very expensive. High schools aren't places where kids learn, but are just hangout clubs with criminals.

And even when it comes to learning, MCPS is a joke. You basically can't fail students. They can still pass by just attending a few classes even with tons of truancy. They get so many do overs, extra credits and re-tests. They bus ton of poverty into schools for equity purposes, but in the end result equity really equates to everything becoming a lot crappier because the bar is never raised for all of the poor kids and all of the English as a second language kids, they inevitably must lower the bar for everyone because they'd have to fail too many students who clearly can't pass.

I seriously don't understand why taxes go up for this freak show. Liberals and progressives are getting exactly what they voted for. I kinda hope it starts making people of means leave the county. Then property values will tank and the tax base for MoCo's progressive council in implodes.

MoCo is well on its way to becoming Baltimore in terms of failed schools, high crime, and stifling taxes that drive out everyone decent.

I know right? That's why MCPS has a 100% graduation rate...NOT.
Idiot

89.6% as of 2023.

Much higher than City of Baltimore, as it happens, which is 70%.

Comparing MCPS to City of Baltimore is setting the bar pathetically low.

My point is that there’s no way MCPS should be letting nearly 100% of the kids graduate when we know they’re not prepared for college or a career.

They have to because guess what groups would dominate the non graduating non prepared for college and career cohort.

Therefore the whole system is required to suck.

Which pisses me off, as a POC, because I want my kids to be educated and held to a meaningful standard. Not passed along and assumed to be incapable of meeting the same standard as their white counterparts because of their race.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, the county rolled out the carpet for illegal immigration. What do you expect?

They also have basically legalized criminal behavior in schools. Our cousins recently graduated from BCC. The stories they told of kids trashing bathrooms, doing drugs, fights, etc. Even the 'good' schools in MoCo are garbage. MCPS is just one gigantic baby sitting program that's very expensive. High schools aren't places where kids learn, but are just hangout clubs with criminals.

And even when it comes to learning, MCPS is a joke. You basically can't fail students. They can still pass by just attending a few classes even with tons of truancy. They get so many do overs, extra credits and re-tests. They bus ton of poverty into schools for equity purposes, but in the end result equity really equates to everything becoming a lot crappier because the bar is never raised for all of the poor kids and all of the English as a second language kids, they inevitably must lower the bar for everyone because they'd have to fail too many students who clearly can't pass.

I seriously don't understand why taxes go up for this freak show. Liberals and progressives are getting exactly what they voted for. I kinda hope it starts making people of means leave the county. Then property values will tank and the tax base for MoCo's progressive council in implodes.

MoCo is well on its way to becoming Baltimore in terms of failed schools, high crime, and stifling taxes that drive out everyone decent.

I know right? That's why MCPS has a 100% graduation rate...NOT.
Idiot

89.6% as of 2023.

Much higher than City of Baltimore, as it happens, which is 70%.

Comparing MCPS to City of Baltimore is setting the bar pathetically low.

My point is that there’s no way MCPS should be letting nearly 100% of the kids graduate when we know they’re not prepared for college or a career.

They have to because guess what groups would dominate the non graduating non prepared for college and career cohort.

Therefore the whole system is required to suck.

Which pisses me off, as a POC, because I want my kids to be educated and held to a meaningful standard. Not passed along and assumed to be incapable of meeting the same standard as their white counterparts because of their race.

If you're children are good students and achieve academically, why do you think that they will be held to a standard that is less than meaningful? That's something you would allow?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, the county rolled out the carpet for illegal immigration. What do you expect?

They also have basically legalized criminal behavior in schools. Our cousins recently graduated from BCC. The stories they told of kids trashing bathrooms, doing drugs, fights, etc. Even the 'good' schools in MoCo are garbage. MCPS is just one gigantic baby sitting program that's very expensive. High schools aren't places where kids learn, but are just hangout clubs with criminals.

And even when it comes to learning, MCPS is a joke. You basically can't fail students. They can still pass by just attending a few classes even with tons of truancy. They get so many do overs, extra credits and re-tests. They bus ton of poverty into schools for equity purposes, but in the end result equity really equates to everything becoming a lot crappier because the bar is never raised for all of the poor kids and all of the English as a second language kids, they inevitably must lower the bar for everyone because they'd have to fail too many students who clearly can't pass.

I seriously don't understand why taxes go up for this freak show. Liberals and progressives are getting exactly what they voted for. I kinda hope it starts making people of means leave the county. Then property values will tank and the tax base for MoCo's progressive council in implodes.

MoCo is well on its way to becoming Baltimore in terms of failed schools, high crime, and stifling taxes that drive out everyone decent.

I know right? That's why MCPS has a 100% graduation rate...NOT.
Idiot

89.6% as of 2023.

Much higher than City of Baltimore, as it happens, which is 70%.

Comparing MCPS to City of Baltimore is setting the bar pathetically low.

My point is that there’s no way MCPS should be letting nearly 100% of the kids graduate when we know they’re not prepared for college or a career.

They have to because guess what groups would dominate the non graduating non prepared for college and career cohort.

Therefore the whole system is required to suck.

Which pisses me off, as a POC, because I want my kids to be educated and held to a meaningful standard. Not passed along and assumed to be incapable of meeting the same standard as their white counterparts because of their race.

If you're children are good students and achieve academically, why do you think that they will be held to a standard that is less than meaningful? That's something you would allow?

To the last responder: No, that is actually NOT true.

The standards ARE less and we were actually told that our child had higher standards and they should lower them because his classmates "came from all walks of life". This came from the administration. This was one of the reasons we left MCPS. Instead of raising the children to a level that will bring out the best in them, it is about diminishing potential. It's not only academics, also things like restorative circles that take away accountability, respect, consequences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, the county rolled out the carpet for illegal immigration. What do you expect?

They also have basically legalized criminal behavior in schools. Our cousins recently graduated from BCC. The stories they told of kids trashing bathrooms, doing drugs, fights, etc. Even the 'good' schools in MoCo are garbage. MCPS is just one gigantic baby sitting program that's very expensive. High schools aren't places where kids learn, but are just hangout clubs with criminals.

And even when it comes to learning, MCPS is a joke. You basically can't fail students. They can still pass by just attending a few classes even with tons of truancy. They get so many do overs, extra credits and re-tests. They bus ton of poverty into schools for equity purposes, but in the end result equity really equates to everything becoming a lot crappier because the bar is never raised for all of the poor kids and all of the English as a second language kids, they inevitably must lower the bar for everyone because they'd have to fail too many students who clearly can't pass.

I seriously don't understand why taxes go up for this freak show. Liberals and progressives are getting exactly what they voted for. I kinda hope it starts making people of means leave the county. Then property values will tank and the tax base for MoCo's progressive council in implodes.

MoCo is well on its way to becoming Baltimore in terms of failed schools, high crime, and stifling taxes that drive out everyone decent.

I know right? That's why MCPS has a 100% graduation rate...NOT.
Idiot

89.6% as of 2023.

Much higher than City of Baltimore, as it happens, which is 70%.

Comparing MCPS to City of Baltimore is setting the bar pathetically low.

My point is that there’s no way MCPS should be letting nearly 100% of the kids graduate when we know they’re not prepared for college or a career.

They have to because guess what groups would dominate the non graduating non prepared for college and career cohort.

Therefore the whole system is required to suck.

Which pisses me off, as a POC, because I want my kids to be educated and held to a meaningful standard. Not passed along and assumed to be incapable of meeting the same standard as their white counterparts because of their race.

If you're children are good students and achieve academically, why do you think that they will be held to a standard that is less than meaningful? That's something you would allow?

To the last responder: No, that is actually NOT true.

The standards ARE less and we were actually told that our child had higher standards and they should lower them because his classmates "came from all walks of life". This came from the administration. This was one of the reasons we left MCPS. Instead of raising the children to a level that will bring out the best in them, it is about diminishing potential. It's not only academics, also things like restorative circles that take away accountability, respect, consequences.

I I call BS on that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was anyone able to read the magazine feature?

I'm a high school teacher and I read the article. It discusses most of the policies teachers are frustrated with that have made it impossible for us to hold kids accountable and have discouraged kids from putting forth much effort. It's a pretty comprehensive article in terms of exposing the major academic issues in MCPS. It's been a steady downhill slide for the past dozen years or so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I did a little research. MCPS *was* better than a Private School back in the 80’s 90’s? Sometime in the early 2000’s it seemed to decline. I 100% agree the focus needs to be on basic academics.

There’s a lot of whining about how tutoring or demographics or money is a factor. Deal with it. From what I heard anecdotally, even when mcps offered free tutoring there were many demographic parents that didn’t even bother signing up? How is that a school issue? It was a huge embarrassment for CO folks claiming demographics was a learning factor, imho.

There are pretty much only two ways to learn. A parent enforcing discipline or a kid becomes self-motivated. The school can’t control the first and only the teachers can help with the second. Does the CO care? Not when drug dealing teachers are okay to hire. Without quality teachers, supported by their leadership, it doesn’t really matter what anyone says or does because the school system fails at that point.

That’s why it’s stupid to bash the schools still able to generate top scores. Right now those few schools are keeping mcps from circling down the drain. Mess with them and public school in Montgomery County will never bounce back once parents switch to private. Instead of ‘how do we fund’ the cycle will be ‘how do we cut’ and public school will become daycare for parents unable to afford private.

Blair is a perfect example. Remove just 100 magnet students and what’s left? 70% college ready? And it’s not even nationally ranked as a stem school WITH the magnet kids there now?

Mcps needs to smell the coffee before it’s too late to fix.

MCPS is still better than any private school in the DMV.
It is the Big Dog and that is why everyone loves to hate MCPS.

No one fleeing from MCPS "loves to hate" them. Most of us would be THRILLED not to hate them but at this point I cannot trust my child to their care.

[Anonymous]

I just read the article online. So depressing but so true. MCPS is a sinking ship. Let’s hope someone at the top has some common sense and can attempt to improve things. I teach HS in MCPS and the only thing my administration seems concerned about is the anti-racism audit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just read the article online. So depressing but so true. MCPS is a sinking ship. Let’s hope someone at the top has some common sense and can attempt to improve things. I teach HS in MCPS and the only thing my administration seems concerned about is the anti-racism audit.

The crazy thing is, from my vantage point as a parent, no one in MCPS is actually DOING anything with the audit. Like no meaningful or impactful systemic changes have come from it. It's just this document that we have that exists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reality is that 50% of children in the U.S. have a history of poverty.

This is due to the economic policies of the U.S. where we have 800+ billionaires who have more combined wealth than the combined wealth of 50% of the U.S. population.

Schools are not able address this. Band aides at most to keep giving kids a fighting chance at success in life.

No, it is not because we have billionaires. It is because most children are being born to poor immigrants and low income parents from "generational poverty." And the tide of new poor children keeps coming every year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just read the article online. So depressing but so true. MCPS is a sinking ship. Let’s hope someone at the top has some common sense and can attempt to improve things. I teach HS in MCPS and the only thing my administration seems concerned about is the anti-racism audit.

The crazy thing is, from my vantage point as a parent, no one in MCPS is actually DOING anything with the audit. Like no meaningful or impactful systemic changes have come from it. It's just this document that we have that exists.

There are things being done. Like explicitly calling for diverse perspectives in ELA and SS curriculum RFPs. Requiring SIP plans to be published on school websites. Restorative Justice (even if not being done well everywhere. Training for Staff (although I question some of the choices of training). Having conversations and asking questions. Having students explore missing voices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just read the article online. So depressing but so true. MCPS is a sinking ship. Let’s hope someone at the top has some common sense and can attempt to improve things. I teach HS in MCPS and the only thing my administration seems concerned about is the anti-racism audit.

The crazy thing is, from my vantage point as a parent, no one in MCPS is actually DOING anything with the audit. Like no meaningful or impactful systemic changes have come from it. It's just this document that we have that exists.

There are things being done. Like explicitly calling for diverse perspectives in ELA and SS curriculum RFPs. Requiring SIP plans to be published on school websites. Restorative Justice (even if not being done well everywhere. Training for Staff (although I question some of the choices of training). Having conversations and asking questions. Having students explore missing voices.

While basic reading, writing, and math are being neglected.

[Anonymous]

Everyone on DCUM is a MCPS teacher.
LOL

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just read the article online. So depressing but so true. MCPS is a sinking ship. Let’s hope someone at the top has some common sense and can attempt to improve things. I teach HS in MCPS and the only thing my administration seems concerned about is the anti-racism audit.

The crazy thing is, from my vantage point as a parent, no one in MCPS is actually DOING anything with the audit. Like no meaningful or impactful systemic changes have come from it. It's just this document that we have that exists.

There are things being done. Like explicitly calling for diverse perspectives in ELA and SS curriculum RFPs. Requiring SIP plans to be published on school websites. Restorative Justice (even if not being done well everywhere. Training for Staff (although I question some of the choices of training). Having conversations and asking questions. Having students explore missing voices.

If you think any of the things you mentioned, which I’m not even going to get into the degree to which those things you cited are actually systemically done with quality and fidelity, are moving the needle on making our system less racist and improving outcomes for non-white students, you are insane.