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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actually living under Democrats policy is very different than just voting for Democrats, putting up your "all are welcome" yard signs, but then never actually having those policies impact your life.

Now that open borders are tanking our schools AND some are being forced to actually send their kids to those tanked schools, it's a horse of a different color. I say bring on the vouchers if nothing is going to be done to stop the flow. And I say this as someone who has always supported public schools over private.

Where and when I was growing up the local privates were religious schools, and at the high school level had less to offer academically.
As (some) public schools ranked and more parents removed their children and enrolled them in private, the privates were able to expand their offerings and now parents with extra money—or willing to make sacrifices— send them to those or they move in bounds for the publics that are still performing.
I wonder if “equity boundaries” have reached my hometown yet. These ideas and policies are pushed in a state and local level by different organizations so if not, it’s a matter of time.

[Anonymous]

The thing about vouchers is that it removes the only thing keeping myself and a lot of teachers in teaching- the retirement benefits.

You can say the behavior will be better in a charter but I don’t believe it. Behavior won’t get better until personal screens are gone from kids hands all day home and school.

Vouchers will also not happen soon enough to benefit my personal children who are middle school and late elementary. So that is a non starter for me all the way around.

The boundary decisions will definitely affect them. Either with them starting over in high school or friends of theirs leaving their school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actually living under Democrats policy is very different than just voting for Democrats, putting up your "all are welcome" yard signs, but then never actually having those policies impact your life.

Now that open borders are tanking our schools AND some are being forced to actually send their kids to those tanked schools, it's a horse of a different color. I say bring on the vouchers if nothing is going to be done to stop the flow. And I say this as someone who has always supported public schools over private.

Sounds like a bit of a self-own on your part, but the point remains that when state officials treat the public schools as an opportunity to push a nativist, anti-immigrant agenda, some of their own backers may be among those who get burned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actually living under Democrats policy is very different than just voting for Democrats, putting up your "all are welcome" yard signs, but then never actually having those policies impact your life.

Now that open borders are tanking our schools AND some are being forced to actually send their kids to those tanked schools, it's a horse of a different color. I say bring on the vouchers if nothing is going to be done to stop the flow. And I say this as someone who has always supported public schools over private.

This! I have been amused by reactions from those in my neighborhood who previously enjoyed virtue signaling the "love is love, no person is illegal, science is real" yard signs, but who now sing a different tune upon hearing their child may have to go to a school with a high ESOL population. There's a huge gap between what they are willing to say and what they are willing to do. I think this represents much of the left leaning Fairfax UMC: I want others to be helped, so long as it doesn't impact me or my loved ones.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Actually living under Democrats policy is very different than just voting for Democrats, putting up your "all are welcome" yard signs, but then never actually having those policies impact your life.

Now that open borders are tanking our schools AND some are being forced to actually send their kids to those tanked schools, it's a horse of a different color. I say bring on the vouchers if nothing is going to be done to stop the flow. And I say this as someone who has always supported public schools over private.

This! I have been amused by reactions from those in my neighborhood who previously enjoyed virtue signaling the "love is love, no person is illegal, science is real" yard signs, but who now sing a different tune upon hearing their child may have to go to a school with a high ESOL population. There's a huge gap between what they are willing to say and what they are willing to do. I think this represents much of the left leaning Fairfax UMC: I want others to be helped, so long as it doesn't impact me or my loved ones.

Eh, whatever.

Be amused, but the pushback comes from having the cost fall directly on particular kids. I still don’t principally object to well-funded schools, just to kids being used as resources for equitable gains.

And it isn’t like the book banning crowd has provided a compelling alternative.

Why do we have to be one extreme or the other?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You can't have a county-wide school and tolerate the disparities that exist between West Springfield and Lewis. It's about time they do something about it.

Past School Boards and FCPS staff have absolutely played favorites. That's how West Springfield got renovated ahead of schedule (trade-off that involved closing Clifton ES) and then got a major expansion courtesy of a former facilities head who went to WSHS. It's also why schools like Lewis, in contrast, ended up with a poor reputation. They need to start making amends.

Lewis ended up in this situation because of the decade long Mixing Bowl construction project.

Lewis (then Lee) sits directly inside.

For years, the high school and surrounding neighborhoods were directly under all the noise, mess, traffic problems and toxic dust of that gigantic, drawn our construction project.

Any family that could afford to move elsewhere did.

They were replaced by recent immigrant families that were happy to have a nice home in a neighborhood with manicured lawns, nice sidewalks, and things like grocery stores, restaurants, jobs, malls, schools and public transit within walking distance.

As the number of non English speaking working class and lower class families increased, Lewis's test scores decreased, making it increasingly undesirable to families with kids, even after the Mixing Bowl construction ended.

That construction project sent Lewis on its downfall.

To claim otherwise and blaming the neighboring school's families is complete ignorance and ignores the true catalyst of Lewis/Lee's decline.

There were multiple UMC areas redistricted out of Lee/Lewis over the years. Same thing happened at Annandale. Also no MS AAP centers in those pyramids.

It's not about blaming families in neighboring pyramids, but about acknowledging that past decisions had consequences that disadvantage current students at Key and Lewis.

Got it, so redrawing the boundaries is about reparations, except instead of exorbitant monetary payments for these past supposed transgressions we send kids as tribute. The kids become the resource.

Why don’t more people support the school board in this endeavor I wonder?

It's reprehensible that the blameless victims in this will be a number of military children in the WSHS pyramid. Kids who already moved several times and finally found stability in a military-dense school pyramid. Kids in military communities bond because of shared experiences and lifestyles and hardships. While there's a lot of transient military, a good percentage of military buy/bought in WSHS for the military community and if they have to leave keep their home with intentions of returning. Just really awful to think that a number of them are going to have their lives upended.

Blah, blah, blah military families. There are a lot of military kids out there and they aren’t whining. Lemme guess, you are an officer and complaining about your kid getting mixed with enlisted. Stop complaining. Hurry up and wait for this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Once again, FCPS is looking thru their equity lens; this a part of the great plan to boost achievement and of course lessen the FARMS numbers. I hope parents refuse to accept this arrangement.

They will. I think sandy has gotten hundreds of emails and there are parent FB groups to band together.

This is going to get very messy and very ugly.

No it isn't. If you watched the meeting, there were about 100 viewing and a room full of Langley parents not wanting to get shifted to Herndon. They all had the same signs and reactions. Nobody cares about any of this except Hunt Valley families. In fact, Forestville folks can almost breathe a little easier because there is no way they would move them if they don't move Hunt Valley.

If maps are drawn that places HV or any West Springfield elementary at Lewis, you don’t think it’s going to get ugly from those parents. It’s not just HV that cares. WS and Keene Mill parents are also watching closely.

WS and Keene are safe. If you know, you know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can't have a county-wide school and tolerate the disparities that exist between West Springfield and Lewis. It's about time they do something about it.

Past School Boards and FCPS staff have absolutely played favorites. That's how West Springfield got renovated ahead of schedule (trade-off that involved closing Clifton ES) and then got a major expansion courtesy of a former facilities head who went to WSHS. It's also why schools like Lewis, in contrast, ended up with a poor reputation. They need to start making amends.

Lewis ended up in this situation because of the decade long Mixing Bowl construction project.

Lewis (then Lee) sits directly inside.

For years, the high school and surrounding neighborhoods were directly under all the noise, mess, traffic problems and toxic dust of that gigantic, drawn our construction project.

Any family that could afford to move elsewhere did.

They were replaced by recent immigrant families that were happy to have a nice home in a neighborhood with manicured lawns, nice sidewalks, and things like grocery stores, restaurants, jobs, malls, schools and public transit within walking distance.

As the number of non English speaking working class and lower class families increased, Lewis's test scores decreased, making it increasingly undesirable to families with kids, even after the Mixing Bowl construction ended.

That construction project sent Lewis on its downfall.

To claim otherwise and blaming the neighboring school's families is complete ignorance and ignores the true catalyst of Lewis/Lee's decline.

There were multiple UMC areas redistricted out of Lee/Lewis over the years. Same thing happened at Annandale. Also no MS AAP centers in those pyramids.

It's not about blaming families in neighboring pyramids, but about acknowledging that past decisions had consequences that disadvantage current students at Key and Lewis.

Got it, so redrawing the boundaries is about reparations, except instead of exorbitant monetary payments for these past supposed transgressions we send kids as tribute. The kids become the resource.

Why don’t more people support the school board in this endeavor I wonder?

It's reprehensible that the blameless victims in this will be a number of military children in the WSHS pyramid. Kids who already moved several times and finally found stability in a military-dense school pyramid. Kids in military communities bond because of shared experiences and lifestyles and hardships. While there's a lot of transient military, a good percentage of military buy/bought in WSHS for the military community and if they have to leave keep their home with intentions of returning. Just really awful to think that a number of them are going to have their lives upended.

Blah, blah, blah military families. There are a lot of military kids out there and they aren’t whining. Lemme guess, you are an officer and complaining about your kid getting mixed with enlisted. Stop complaining. Hurry up and wait for this.

Found the bitter single term enlisted who got out as an E-4 and now a DoD GS-12 barely getting by and still resenting his/her officer leadership.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, FCPS is looking thru their equity lens; this a part of the great plan to boost achievement and of course lessen the FARMS numbers. I hope parents refuse to accept this arrangement.

They will. I think sandy has gotten hundreds of emails and there are parent FB groups to band together.

This is going to get very messy and very ugly.

No it isn't. If you watched the meeting, there were about 100 viewing and a room full of Langley parents not wanting to get shifted to Herndon. They all had the same signs and reactions. Nobody cares about any of this except Hunt Valley families. In fact, Forestville folks can almost breathe a little easier because there is no way they would move them if they don't move Hunt Valley.

If maps are drawn that places HV or any West Springfield elementary at Lewis, you don’t think it’s going to get ugly from those parents. It’s not just HV that cares. WS and Keene Mill parents are also watching closely.

WS and Keene are safe. If you know, you know.

But wasn’t WSES the one that got gerrymandered OUT of Pat Herrity’s magisterial district? It was discussed in the old thread. There was something very fishy going on there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, FCPS is looking thru their equity lens; this a part of the great plan to boost achievement and of course lessen the FARMS numbers. I hope parents refuse to accept this arrangement.

They will. I think sandy has gotten hundreds of emails and there are parent FB groups to band together.

This is going to get very messy and very ugly.

No it isn't. If you watched the meeting, there were about 100 viewing and a room full of Langley parents not wanting to get shifted to Herndon. They all had the same signs and reactions. Nobody cares about any of this except Hunt Valley families. In fact, Forestville folks can almost breathe a little easier because there is no way they would move them if they don't move Hunt Valley.

If maps are drawn that places HV or any West Springfield elementary at Lewis, you don’t think it’s going to get ugly from those parents. It’s not just HV that cares. WS and Keene Mill parents are also watching closely.

WS and Keene are safe. If you know, you know.

But wasn’t WSES the one that got gerrymandered OUT of Pat Herrity’s magisterial district? It was discussed in the old thread. There was something very fishy going on there.

Voting precincts and ES boundaries are not the same thing. Coincidentally WSES's boundary shape does resemble the local precinct but that is not typical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually living under Democrats policy is very different than just voting for Democrats, putting up your "all are welcome" yard signs, but then never actually having those policies impact your life.

Now that open borders are tanking our schools AND some are being forced to actually send their kids to those tanked schools, it's a horse of a different color. I say bring on the vouchers if nothing is going to be done to stop the flow. And I say this as someone who has always supported public schools over private.

Sounds like a bit of a self-own on your part, but the point remains that when state officials treat the public schools as an opportunity to push a nativist, anti-immigrant agenda, some of their own backers may be among those who get burned.

You've missed the plot completely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually living under Democrats policy is very different than just voting for Democrats, putting up your "all are welcome" yard signs, but then never actually having those policies impact your life.

Now that open borders are tanking our schools AND some are being forced to actually send their kids to those tanked schools, it's a horse of a different color. I say bring on the vouchers if nothing is going to be done to stop the flow. And I say this as someone who has always supported public schools over private.

This! I have been amused by reactions from those in my neighborhood who previously enjoyed virtue signaling the "love is love, no person is illegal, science is real" yard signs, but who now sing a different tune upon hearing their child may have to go to a school with a high ESOL population. There's a huge gap between what they are willing to say and what they are willing to do. I think this represents much of the left leaning Fairfax UMC: I want others to be helped, so long as it doesn't impact me or my loved ones.

Eh, whatever.

Be amused, but the pushback comes from having the cost fall directly on particular kids. I still don’t principally object to well-funded schools, just to kids being used as resources for equitable gains.

And it isn’t like the book banning crowd has provided a compelling alternative.

Why do we have to be one extreme or the other?

But the burden has always fallen on American kids somewhere. You're only mad now because it's YOUR kids as well as THEIR kids. That's the comedy in this. You can't virtue signal without any skin in the game anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually living under Democrats policy is very different than just voting for Democrats, putting up your "all are welcome" yard signs, but then never actually having those policies impact your life.

Now that open borders are tanking our schools AND some are being forced to actually send their kids to those tanked schools, it's a horse of a different color. I say bring on the vouchers if nothing is going to be done to stop the flow. And I say this as someone who has always supported public schools over private.

This! I have been amused by reactions from those in my neighborhood who previously enjoyed virtue signaling the "love is love, no person is illegal, science is real" yard signs, but who now sing a different tune upon hearing their child may have to go to a school with a high ESOL population. There's a huge gap between what they are willing to say and what they are willing to do. I think this represents much of the left leaning Fairfax UMC: I want others to be helped, so long as it doesn't impact me or my loved ones.

Eh, whatever.

Be amused, but the pushback comes from having the cost fall directly on particular kids. I still don’t principally object to well-funded schools, just to kids being used as resources for equitable gains.

And it isn’t like the book banning crowd has provided a compelling alternative.

Why do we have to be one extreme or the other?

But the burden has always fallen on American kids somewhere. You're only mad now because it's YOUR kids as well as THEIR kids. That's the comedy in this. You can't virtue signal without any skin in the game anymore.

Funny, I always figured taxes are my skin in the game, not my kids. It sounds like you think we should screw certain kids over in the name of equity.

Gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, FCPS is looking thru their equity lens; this a part of the great plan to boost achievement and of course lessen the FARMS numbers. I hope parents refuse to accept this arrangement.

They will. I think sandy has gotten hundreds of emails and there are parent FB groups to band together.

This is going to get very messy and very ugly.

No it isn't. If you watched the meeting, there were about 100 viewing and a room full of Langley parents not wanting to get shifted to Herndon. They all had the same signs and reactions. Nobody cares about any of this except Hunt Valley families. In fact, Forestville folks can almost breathe a little easier because there is no way they would move them if they don't move Hunt Valley.

If maps are drawn that places HV or any West Springfield elementary at Lewis, you don’t think it’s going to get ugly from those parents. It’s not just HV that cares. WS and Keene Mill parents are also watching closely.

WS and Keene are safe. If you know, you know.

No I don’t know. Why?

If HV is moved then they are just creating another attendance island which they wanted to eliminate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, FCPS is looking thru their equity lens; this a part of the great plan to boost achievement and of course lessen the FARMS numbers. I hope parents refuse to accept this arrangement.

They will. I think sandy has gotten hundreds of emails and there are parent FB groups to band together.

This is going to get very messy and very ugly.

No it isn't. If you watched the meeting, there were about 100 viewing and a room full of Langley parents not wanting to get shifted to Herndon. They all had the same signs and reactions. Nobody cares about any of this except Hunt Valley families. In fact, Forestville folks can almost breathe a little easier because there is no way they would move them if they don't move Hunt Valley.

If maps are drawn that places HV or any West Springfield elementary at Lewis, you don’t think it’s going to get ugly from those parents. It’s not just HV that cares. WS and Keene Mill parents are also watching closely.

WS and Keene are safe. If you know, you know.

No I don’t know. Why?

If HV is moved then they are just creating another attendance island which they wanted to eliminate.

Nope. HV is contiguous with Saratoga, which feeds to Lewis. It would not create an attendance island.