Hope for DCPS?

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Anonymous wrote:I think one reason white families do not apply for Banneker at higher rates is because of the feeling that is the application school "for" high achieved ng black kids and that it is not fair for white students to take those spots. This is very much baked into the culture of the school and when there were fewer white families staying in DCPS through 12th it was less of an issue. But now more white families want to stay and there are not enough spots and academically challenging high schools so you see the percentage of white students at Banneker creeping up. If that number increased enough to change the culture if the school, I think you would see some unhappiness among black families.

This is very true. It's also true that the surrounding neighborhood is a LOT more white these days, those families have opted into the DCPS elementaries, and the interest in Banneker from that group is enormous. They see the Banneker kids walking around the neighborhood and at Seaton (where they go to fulfill their community service hours) and there is a huge amount of interest in the school. So we'll see what happens over the years. I don't know what the ideal non-Black percentage is so that it can still be a place a Black excellence.

Why is it that black people just can’t have something nice without others trying to intrude? They tried to disrespect Howard University by treating it as a dog park and now they’re trying to take Banneker High School. The black students at Banneker are doing fine and don’t need to be saved from those with a “colonizer mindset”. It doesn’t cost anything to just leave these students and their families alone. They don’t need affluent others on the PTO trying to change the culture of the school. LEAVE THEM ALONE.

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Anytime anyone says anything supporting black people, it’s always considered a troll to some of this board. I’m just speaking the truth from a perspective of a black person living in DC since I was born in the 1990s. Has it ever occurred that high achieving black families want to send their black children to a predominately black school with other high achieving black children?

So your pro-segregation?

And you think it's ok for high-achieving black families to horde resources?

If you are not a troll, you might as well be.

It’s only a problem when black families do it huh? Where’s your disdain for the affluent white families in Ward 3 who continue to hoard resources at schools like Janney, Key, Lafayette, Deal, Mann etc? I get the feeling that you think anytime the playing field is being leveled it’s unfair to white people. You somehow believe that black children excelling in a nurturing environment like Banneker is a threat to white children. Why is that? I would truly like to know.

What resources are white families hoarding at these schools?

Tons of money. It’s shameful that a school can fundraise $500,000 but then turn around and get upset about their school budget.

They get less funding per pupil, right? When their budgets get cut and they lose teachers, they can’t use fundraised dollars to pay salaries, right?

I think PTO could in theory pay salaries. But of course they shouldn’t have to. DCPS needs to adequately fund great schools for all kids. Even if a school only has rich kids — though as someone pointed out, DCPS is making every effort through set-asides and similar measures to increase enrollment of poor kids in “rich kid” schools. Those kids need the same resources they would get at a “poor kid” school, and obviously DCPS must pay.

I am a teacher and have taught at Title 1 schools and highly regarded schools with many UMC kids. I do not agree that those different schools need the same resources. They all deserve good teachers, supplies, support staff, etc. But Title 1 schools need extra staff to be successful. You cannot imagine some of the issues Title 1 schools have to overcome and deal with.

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Anonymous wrote:I think one reason white families do not apply for Banneker at higher rates is because of the feeling that is the application school "for" high achieved ng black kids and that it is not fair for white students to take those spots. This is very much baked into the culture of the school and when there were fewer white families staying in DCPS through 12th it was less of an issue. But now more white families want to stay and there are not enough spots and academically challenging high schools so you see the percentage of white students at Banneker creeping up. If that number increased enough to change the culture if the school, I think you would see some unhappiness among black families.

This is very true. It's also true that the surrounding neighborhood is a LOT more white these days, those families have opted into the DCPS elementaries, and the interest in Banneker from that group is enormous. They see the Banneker kids walking around the neighborhood and at Seaton (where they go to fulfill their community service hours) and there is a huge amount of interest in the school. So we'll see what happens over the years. I don't know what the ideal non-Black percentage is so that it can still be a place a Black excellence.

Why is it that black people just can’t have something nice without others trying to intrude? They tried to disrespect Howard University by treating it as a dog park and now they’re trying to take Banneker High School. The black students at Banneker are doing fine and don’t need to be saved from those with a “colonizer mindset”. It doesn’t cost anything to just leave these students and their families alone. They don’t need affluent others on the PTO trying to change the culture of the school. LEAVE THEM ALONE.

troll

Anytime anyone says anything supporting black people, it’s always considered a troll to some of this board. I’m just speaking the truth from a perspective of a black person living in DC since I was born in the 1990s. Has it ever occurred that high achieving black families want to send their black children to a predominately black school with other high achieving black children?

So your pro-segregation?

And you think it's ok for high-achieving black families to horde resources?

If you are not a troll, you might as well be.

It’s only a problem when black families do it huh? Where’s your disdain for the affluent white families in Ward 3 who continue to hoard resources at schools like Janney, Key, Lafayette, Deal, Mann etc? I get the feeling that you think anytime the playing field is being leveled it’s unfair to white people. You somehow believe that black children excelling in a nurturing environment like Banneker is a threat to white children. Why is that? I would truly like to know.

What resources are white families hoarding at these schools?

Tons of money. It’s shameful that a school can fundraise $500,000 but then turn around and get upset about their school budget.

They get less funding per pupil, right? When their budgets get cut and they lose teachers, they can’t use fundraised dollars to pay salaries, right?

No, they don’t. The only funding streams that schools like Janney aren’t receiving are Title I and at risk funds. That’s why their funding is so low. A school like Janney or Key shouldn’t receive comparable funds as a school like Burrville, Malcolm X, or Whitlock. In fact, schools like Janney and Key should only be receiving the baseline funding amounts to keep the school operating but nothing extra. These schools do not need extra funds for social workers, aftercare, guidance counselors etc.

These schools don't get money for aftercare.

What ES has guidance counselors?

What is funded at these schools is pretty bare bones!

And they shouldn’t ever receive money for aftercare. They should have cut more funds from the rich schools to fund more programming at Title I schools. Funding at every single non-Title I school except Bancroft, Capitol Hill Montessori, Hyde-Addison, Stevens ELC, Military Road ELC, and Shepherd should have been significantly reduced. The children of the elites at Brent, Janney, Key, Lafayette, Mann, Maury, Murch, Peabody, Ross, and Stoddert will be just fine without a lot of extra staff and programs. If we’re going to talk about the funding that’s needed, these schools would be just fine with just having classroom teachers, a PE teacher, Art teacher, principal, 1 administrative assistant, and 1 custodian on their budget. All other positions aren’t needed at these schools. The parents at these schools can surely supplement for extracurricular activities and specials like drama, foreign language, sculpture and writing.

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Anonymous wrote:I think one reason white families do not apply for Banneker at higher rates is because of the feeling that is the application school "for" high achieved ng black kids and that it is not fair for white students to take those spots. This is very much baked into the culture of the school and when there were fewer white families staying in DCPS through 12th it was less of an issue. But now more white families want to stay and there are not enough spots and academically challenging high schools so you see the percentage of white students at Banneker creeping up. If that number increased enough to change the culture if the school, I think you would see some unhappiness among black families.

This is very true. It's also true that the surrounding neighborhood is a LOT more white these days, those families have opted into the DCPS elementaries, and the interest in Banneker from that group is enormous. They see the Banneker kids walking around the neighborhood and at Seaton (where they go to fulfill their community service hours) and there is a huge amount of interest in the school. So we'll see what happens over the years. I don't know what the ideal non-Black percentage is so that it can still be a place a Black excellence.

Why is it that black people just can’t have something nice without others trying to intrude? They tried to disrespect Howard University by treating it as a dog park and now they’re trying to take Banneker High School. The black students at Banneker are doing fine and don’t need to be saved from those with a “colonizer mindset”. It doesn’t cost anything to just leave these students and their families alone. They don’t need affluent others on the PTO trying to change the culture of the school. LEAVE THEM ALONE.

troll

Anytime anyone says anything supporting black people, it’s always considered a troll to some of this board. I’m just speaking the truth from a perspective of a black person living in DC since I was born in the 1990s. Has it ever occurred that high achieving black families want to send their black children to a predominately black school with other high achieving black children?

So your pro-segregation?

And you think it's ok for high-achieving black families to horde resources?

If you are not a troll, you might as well be.

It’s only a problem when black families do it huh? Where’s your disdain for the affluent white families in Ward 3 who continue to hoard resources at schools like Janney, Key, Lafayette, Deal, Mann etc? I get the feeling that you think anytime the playing field is being leveled it’s unfair to white people. You somehow believe that black children excelling in a nurturing environment like Banneker is a threat to white children. Why is that? I would truly like to know.

What resources are white families hoarding at these schools?

Tons of money. It’s shameful that a school can fundraise $500,000 but then turn around and get upset about their school budget.

They get less funding per pupil, right? When their budgets get cut and they lose teachers, they can’t use fundraised dollars to pay salaries, right?

No, they don’t. The only funding streams that schools like Janney aren’t receiving are Title I and at risk funds. That’s why their funding is so low. A school like Janney or Key shouldn’t receive comparable funds as a school like Burrville, Malcolm X, or Whitlock. In fact, schools like Janney and Key should only be receiving the baseline funding amounts to keep the school operating but nothing extra. These schools do not need extra funds for social workers, aftercare, guidance counselors etc.

These schools don't get money for aftercare.

What ES has guidance counselors?

What is funded at these schools is pretty bare bones!

And they shouldn’t ever receive money for aftercare. They should have cut more funds from the rich schools to fund more programming at Title I schools. Funding at every single non-Title I school except Bancroft, Capitol Hill Montessori, Hyde-Addison, Stevens ELC, Military Road ELC, and Shepherd should have been significantly reduced. The children of the elites at Brent, Janney, Key, Lafayette, Mann, Maury, Murch, Peabody, Ross, and Stoddert will be just fine without a lot of extra staff and programs. If we’re going to talk about the funding that’s needed, these schools would be just fine with just having classroom teachers, a PE teacher, Art teacher, principal, 1 administrative assistant, and 1 custodian on their budget. All other positions aren’t needed at these schools. The parents at these schools can surely supplement for extracurricular activities and specials like drama, foreign language, sculpture and writing.

I think you've confused Ward 3 DCPS parents for private school parents.

And why do you keep saying those schools shouldn't have things that they actually don't have? The vehemence seems misdirected.

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Anonymous wrote:I think one reason white families do not apply for Banneker at higher rates is because of the feeling that is the application school "for" high achieved ng black kids and that it is not fair for white students to take those spots. This is very much baked into the culture of the school and when there were fewer white families staying in DCPS through 12th it was less of an issue. But now more white families want to stay and there are not enough spots and academically challenging high schools so you see the percentage of white students at Banneker creeping up. If that number increased enough to change the culture if the school, I think you would see some unhappiness among black families.

This is very true. It's also true that the surrounding neighborhood is a LOT more white these days, those families have opted into the DCPS elementaries, and the interest in Banneker from that group is enormous. They see the Banneker kids walking around the neighborhood and at Seaton (where they go to fulfill their community service hours) and there is a huge amount of interest in the school. So we'll see what happens over the years. I don't know what the ideal non-Black percentage is so that it can still be a place a Black excellence.

Why is it that black people just can’t have something nice without others trying to intrude? They tried to disrespect Howard University by treating it as a dog park and now they’re trying to take Banneker High School. The black students at Banneker are doing fine and don’t need to be saved from those with a “colonizer mindset”. It doesn’t cost anything to just leave these students and their families alone. They don’t need affluent others on the PTO trying to change the culture of the school. LEAVE THEM ALONE.

troll

Anytime anyone says anything supporting black people, it’s always considered a troll to some of this board. I’m just speaking the truth from a perspective of a black person living in DC since I was born in the 1990s. Has it ever occurred that high achieving black families want to send their black children to a predominately black school with other high achieving black children?

So your pro-segregation?

And you think it's ok for high-achieving black families to horde resources?

If you are not a troll, you might as well be.

It’s only a problem when black families do it huh? Where’s your disdain for the affluent white families in Ward 3 who continue to hoard resources at schools like Janney, Key, Lafayette, Deal, Mann etc? I get the feeling that you think anytime the playing field is being leveled it’s unfair to white people. You somehow believe that black children excelling in a nurturing environment like Banneker is a threat to white children. Why is that? I would truly like to know.

What resources are white families hoarding at these schools?

Tons of money. It’s shameful that a school can fundraise $500,000 but then turn around and get upset about their school budget.

They get less funding per pupil, right? When their budgets get cut and they lose teachers, they can’t use fundraised dollars to pay salaries, right?

No, they don’t. The only funding streams that schools like Janney aren’t receiving are Title I and at risk funds. That’s why their funding is so low. A school like Janney or Key shouldn’t receive comparable funds as a school like Burrville, Malcolm X, or Whitlock. In fact, schools like Janney and Key should only be receiving the baseline funding amounts to keep the school operating but nothing extra. These schools do not need extra funds for social workers, aftercare, guidance counselors etc.

These schools don't get money for aftercare.

What ES has guidance counselors?

What is funded at these schools is pretty bare bones!

And they shouldn’t ever receive money for aftercare. They should have cut more funds from the rich schools to fund more programming at Title I schools. Funding at every single non-Title I school except Bancroft, Capitol Hill Montessori, Hyde-Addison, Stevens ELC, Military Road ELC, and Shepherd should have been significantly reduced. The children of the elites at Brent, Janney, Key, Lafayette, Mann, Maury, Murch, Peabody, Ross, and Stoddert will be just fine without a lot of extra staff and programs. If we’re going to talk about the funding that’s needed, these schools would be just fine with just having classroom teachers, a PE teacher, Art teacher, principal, 1 administrative assistant, and 1 custodian on their budget. All other positions aren’t needed at these schools. The parents at these schools can surely supplement for extracurricular activities and specials like drama, foreign language, sculpture and writing.

I think you've confused Ward 3 DCPS parents for private school parents.

And why do you keep saying those schools shouldn't have things that they actually don't have? The vehemence seems misdirected.

It’s the same demographic of parents so it’s exactly the same thing. They all have wallets lined with cash. That’s the point of the post. And those schools do offer these things to their students.

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That might work if every kid at these schools lived IB. Let’s not fund housing vouchers for apts in W3. Let’s eliminate OOB enrollment so there are only “rich” kids in these schools.

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Ballou has no students who are proficient in science or math. How much funding would it take to get to 50% proficient? 60? Why does DCPS keep throwing good money after bad? Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

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Anonymous wrote:That might work if every kid at these schools lived IB. Let’s not fund housing vouchers for apts in W3. Let’s eliminate OOB enrollment so there are only “rich” kids in these schools.

Sounds like you’re trying to imply that only black children are OOB and live in apartments in Ward 3.

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Anonymous wrote:Ballou has no students who are proficient in science or math. How much funding would it take to get to 50% proficient? 60? Why does DCPS keep throwing good money after bad? Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

Ballou has plenty of students proficient in science and math. Just because the students are black doesn’t mean that they are unintelligent. And you wonder why we want predominately black schools like Banneker where high achieving black students can thrive. You and others probably say that high achieving black children at Banneker are low achievers and unintelligent. Lets not play this game and hide behind semantics.

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Anonymous wrote:That might work if every kid at these schools lived IB. Let’s not fund housing vouchers for apts in W3. Let’s eliminate OOB enrollment so there are only “rich” kids in these schools.

Sounds like you’re trying to imply that only black children are OOB and live in apartments in Ward 3.

Sounds like you don’t have any experience with the kids in these schools. Try again.

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Anonymous wrote:Ballou has no students who are proficient in science or math. How much funding would it take to get to 50% proficient? 60? Why does DCPS keep throwing good money after bad? Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

Ballou has plenty of students proficient in science and math. Just because the students are black doesn’t mean that they are unintelligent. And you wonder why we want predominately black schools like Banneker where high achieving black students can thrive. You and others probably say that high achieving black children at Banneker are low achievers and unintelligent. Lets not play this game and hide behind semantics.

Yes, speak on it! +100

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Anonymous wrote:That might work if every kid at these schools lived IB. Let’s not fund housing vouchers for apts in W3. Let’s eliminate OOB enrollment so there are only “rich” kids in these schools.

Sounds like you’re trying to imply that only black children are OOB and live in apartments in Ward 3.

Sounds like you don’t have any experience with the kids in these schools. Try again.

And now you’re trying to imply that black children are OOB and have behavioral issues. I see what you’re trying to do here. The vilification of black children needs to stop. These children have every right to attend any school in DCPS as everyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:I think one reason white families do not apply for Banneker at higher rates is because of the feeling that is the application school "for" high achieved ng black kids and that it is not fair for white students to take those spots. This is very much baked into the culture of the school and when there were fewer white families staying in DCPS through 12th it was less of an issue. But now more white families want to stay and there are not enough spots and academically challenging high schools so you see the percentage of white students at Banneker creeping up. If that number increased enough to change the culture if the school, I think you would see some unhappiness among black families.

This is very true. It's also true that the surrounding neighborhood is a LOT more white these days, those families have opted into the DCPS elementaries, and the interest in Banneker from that group is enormous. They see the Banneker kids walking around the neighborhood and at Seaton (where they go to fulfill their community service hours) and there is a huge amount of interest in the school. So we'll see what happens over the years. I don't know what the ideal non-Black percentage is so that it can still be a place a Black excellence.

Why is it that black people just can’t have something nice without others trying to intrude? They tried to disrespect Howard University by treating it as a dog park and now they’re trying to take Banneker High School. The black students at Banneker are doing fine and don’t need to be saved from those with a “colonizer mindset”. It doesn’t cost anything to just leave these students and their families alone. They don’t need affluent others on the PTO trying to change the culture of the school. LEAVE THEM ALONE.

troll

Anytime anyone says anything supporting black people, it’s always considered a troll to some of this board. I’m just speaking the truth from a perspective of a black person living in DC since I was born in the 1990s. Has it ever occurred that high achieving black families want to send their black children to a predominately black school with other high achieving black children?

So your pro-segregation?

And you think it's ok for high-achieving black families to horde resources?

If you are not a troll, you might as well be.

It’s only a problem when black families do it huh? Where’s your disdain for the affluent white families in Ward 3 who continue to hoard resources at schools like Janney, Key, Lafayette, Deal, Mann etc? I get the feeling that you think anytime the playing field is being leveled it’s unfair to white people. You somehow believe that black children excelling in a nurturing environment like Banneker is a threat to white children. Why is that? I would truly like to know.

What resources are white families hoarding at these schools?

Tons of money. It’s shameful that a school can fundraise $500,000 but then turn around and get upset about their school budget.

what school raises that much??

Janney, Key, Lafayette, Mann, Maury, Murch

Maury does not raise $500K. That’s completely untrue.

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The problems with DCPS are not due to funding. They spend more per student than every other state except NY. Literally three times Utah, Idaho, Arizona etc. And double pretty much every other state. It's not a money problem.

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Ballou has 0 proficient in science or math according to US News & World Report rankings.

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Anonymous wrote:The problems with DCPS are not due to funding. They spend more per student than every other state except NY. Literally three times Utah, Idaho, Arizona etc. And double pretty much every other state. It's not a money problem.

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