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Anonymous wrote:I think one reason white families do not apply for Banneker at higher rates is because of the feeling that is the application school "for" high achieved ng black kids and that it is not fair for white students to take those spots. This is very much baked into the culture of the school and when there were fewer white families staying in DCPS through 12th it was less of an issue. But now more white families want to stay and there are not enough spots and academically challenging high schools so you see the percentage of white students at Banneker creeping up. If that number increased enough to change the culture if the school, I think you would see some unhappiness among black families.

This is very true. It's also true that the surrounding neighborhood is a LOT more white these days, those families have opted into the DCPS elementaries, and the interest in Banneker from that group is enormous. They see the Banneker kids walking around the neighborhood and at Seaton (where they go to fulfill their community service hours) and there is a huge amount of interest in the school. So we'll see what happens over the years. I don't know what the ideal non-Black percentage is so that it can still be a place a Black excellence.

Why is it that black people just can’t have something nice without others trying to intrude? They tried to disrespect Howard University by treating it as a dog park and now they’re trying to take Banneker High School. The black students at Banneker are doing fine and don’t need to be saved from those with a “colonizer mindset”. It doesn’t cost anything to just leave these students and their families alone. They don’t need affluent others on the PTO trying to change the culture of the school. LEAVE THEM ALONE.

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Anytime anyone says anything supporting black people, it’s always considered a troll to some of this board. I’m just speaking the truth from a perspective of a black person living in DC since I was born in the 1990s. Has it ever occurred that high achieving black families want to send their black children to a predominately black school with other high achieving black children?

So your pro-segregation?

And you think it's ok for high-achieving black families to horde resources?

If you are not a troll, you might as well be.

It’s only a problem when black families do it huh? Where’s your disdain for the affluent white families in Ward 3 who continue to hoard resources at schools like Janney, Key, Lafayette, Deal, Mann etc? I get the feeling that you think anytime the playing field is being leveled it’s unfair to white people. You somehow believe that black children excelling in a nurturing environment like Banneker is a threat to white children. Why is that? I would truly like to know.

What resources are white families hoarding at these schools?

Tons of money. It’s shameful that a school can fundraise $500,000 but then turn around and get upset about their school budget.

what school raises that much??

Janney, Key, Lafayette, Mann, Maury, Murch

Maury does not raise $500K. That’s completely untrue.

Well whatever the amount is, I’m sure it’s close to that amount. The design of that new building signals to me and others that people with significant amounts of money and resources had influence over the project.

that’s a really dumb take. it’s literally less thab 1/2 that amount. Nd the parents wish they had more say in the modernization plans! not to mention the fact that the school was expanded and many of the new seats went to OOB students.

It might seem like a dumb take to you, but I can assure you that many people share this sentiment. Just ask any black folks what they think about the building and they will all say the same thing. They will all say that DCPS shoved out tons of money so white folks in the neighborhood could have a state of the art building. DCPS didn’t renovate this building to serve black children. They renovated it so that more white children would enroll. That’s the truth.

oh ffs. DCPS renovates schools on a cycle. many W7 and 8 schools got renovated. This kind of comment is just dumb as rocks and makes it sound like you’re trying to aggravate racial issues.

While that might be true regarding the renovation cycle, the materials and designs of the renovated schools in wards 7 and 8 are significantly lesser quality than what you find at renovated schools in ward 3. Compare the Murch renovation with the renovation of Kimball and CW Harris and then get back to me.

Yeah you’re going to have to back this up with some actual budget numbers buddy. I just googled Kimball and it looks basically the same as Maury. (For that matter I didn’t love the Maury reno so it’s dumb to conclude that a different design is somehow racist.)

https://eastoftheriverdcnews.com/2019/07/10/kimball-elementary-school-renovation-nears-completion/

I was referring to the quality of the building materials, finishes, room layouts, color schemes, flooring etc inside of the school. Now show me pictures comparing the inside of CW Harris, Kimball vs Maury and Murch. Quickly now…

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Anonymous wrote:I think one reason white families do not apply for Banneker at higher rates is because of the feeling that is the application school "for" high achieved ng black kids and that it is not fair for white students to take those spots. This is very much baked into the culture of the school and when there were fewer white families staying in DCPS through 12th it was less of an issue. But now more white families want to stay and there are not enough spots and academically challenging high schools so you see the percentage of white students at Banneker creeping up. If that number increased enough to change the culture if the school, I think you would see some unhappiness among black families.

This is very true. It's also true that the surrounding neighborhood is a LOT more white these days, those families have opted into the DCPS elementaries, and the interest in Banneker from that group is enormous. They see the Banneker kids walking around the neighborhood and at Seaton (where they go to fulfill their community service hours) and there is a huge amount of interest in the school. So we'll see what happens over the years. I don't know what the ideal non-Black percentage is so that it can still be a place a Black excellence.

Why is it that black people just can’t have something nice without others trying to intrude? They tried to disrespect Howard University by treating it as a dog park and now they’re trying to take Banneker High School. The black students at Banneker are doing fine and don’t need to be saved from those with a “colonizer mindset”. It doesn’t cost anything to just leave these students and their families alone. They don’t need affluent others on the PTO trying to change the culture of the school. LEAVE THEM ALONE.

troll

Anytime anyone says anything supporting black people, it’s always considered a troll to some of this board. I’m just speaking the truth from a perspective of a black person living in DC since I was born in the 1990s. Has it ever occurred that high achieving black families want to send their black children to a predominately black school with other high achieving black children?

So your pro-segregation?

And you think it's ok for high-achieving black families to horde resources?

If you are not a troll, you might as well be.

It’s only a problem when black families do it huh? Where’s your disdain for the affluent white families in Ward 3 who continue to hoard resources at schools like Janney, Key, Lafayette, Deal, Mann etc? I get the feeling that you think anytime the playing field is being leveled it’s unfair to white people. You somehow believe that black children excelling in a nurturing environment like Banneker is a threat to white children. Why is that? I would truly like to know.

What resources are white families hoarding at these schools?

Tons of money. It’s shameful that a school can fundraise $500,000 but then turn around and get upset about their school budget.

what school raises that much??

Janney, Key, Lafayette, Mann, Maury, Murch

Maury does not raise $500K. That’s completely untrue.

Well whatever the amount is, I’m sure it’s close to that amount. The design of that new building signals to me and others that people with significant amounts of money and resources had influence over the project.

that’s a really dumb take. it’s literally less thab 1/2 that amount. Nd the parents wish they had more say in the modernization plans! not to mention the fact that the school was expanded and many of the new seats went to OOB students.

Maury’s demographics don’t suggest an expansion of OOB seats to me. It still looks like a place overrun by affluent families who are hellbent on keeping black children out. That’s what it looks like to me from my vantage point.

If you don't want our city to have neighborhood school. by all means lobby for a change. I would love it.

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Anonymous wrote:I think one reason white families do not apply for Banneker at higher rates is because of the feeling that is the application school "for" high achieved ng black kids and that it is not fair for white students to take those spots. This is very much baked into the culture of the school and when there were fewer white families staying in DCPS through 12th it was less of an issue. But now more white families want to stay and there are not enough spots and academically challenging high schools so you see the percentage of white students at Banneker creeping up. If that number increased enough to change the culture if the school, I think you would see some unhappiness among black families.

This is very true. It's also true that the surrounding neighborhood is a LOT more white these days, those families have opted into the DCPS elementaries, and the interest in Banneker from that group is enormous. They see the Banneker kids walking around the neighborhood and at Seaton (where they go to fulfill their community service hours) and there is a huge amount of interest in the school. So we'll see what happens over the years. I don't know what the ideal non-Black percentage is so that it can still be a place a Black excellence.

Why is it that black people just can’t have something nice without others trying to intrude? They tried to disrespect Howard University by treating it as a dog park and now they’re trying to take Banneker High School. The black students at Banneker are doing fine and don’t need to be saved from those with a “colonizer mindset”. It doesn’t cost anything to just leave these students and their families alone. They don’t need affluent others on the PTO trying to change the culture of the school. LEAVE THEM ALONE.

troll

Anytime anyone says anything supporting black people, it’s always considered a troll to some of this board. I’m just speaking the truth from a perspective of a black person living in DC since I was born in the 1990s. Has it ever occurred that high achieving black families want to send their black children to a predominately black school with other high achieving black children?

So your pro-segregation?

And you think it's ok for high-achieving black families to horde resources?

If you are not a troll, you might as well be.

It’s only a problem when black families do it huh? Where’s your disdain for the affluent white families in Ward 3 who continue to hoard resources at schools like Janney, Key, Lafayette, Deal, Mann etc? I get the feeling that you think anytime the playing field is being leveled it’s unfair to white people. You somehow believe that black children excelling in a nurturing environment like Banneker is a threat to white children. Why is that? I would truly like to know.

What resources are white families hoarding at these schools?

Tons of money. It’s shameful that a school can fundraise $500,000 but then turn around and get upset about their school budget.

what school raises that much??

Janney, Key, Lafayette, Mann, Maury, Murch

Maury does not raise $500K. That’s completely untrue.

Well whatever the amount is, I’m sure it’s close to that amount. The design of that new building signals to me and others that people with significant amounts of money and resources had influence over the project.

that’s a really dumb take. it’s literally less thab 1/2 that amount. Nd the parents wish they had more say in the modernization plans! not to mention the fact that the school was expanded and many of the new seats went to OOB students.

Maury’s demographics don’t suggest an expansion of OOB seats to me. It still looks like a place overrun by affluent families who are hellbent on keeping black children out. That’s what it looks like to me from my vantage point.

your vantage point is worthless - worse than worthless, it’s actively toxic and counterproductive. not to mention wrong. the school grew by I think around 150 students after the reno and many of these were OOB kids offered spots in upper grades. and the % of white kids is pretty much exactly the same as it was prior to the modernization (a bit under 60%).

do you actually think the toxic waste you’re spewing does anything for equity? who would want you anywhere near their school, no matter what race you are?

This is where you are wrong. What is toxic about pointing out how a building renovation was done to satisfy white families in the neighborhood. It’s a fact and it’s true. And how is it toxic to point out that the school has an inviting atmosphere for black children? People who usually react this way to posts pointing out injustice and inequity are the ones guilty of trying to keep black children out of schools. You probably believe that all black children deserve to be sent to rundown schools. You aren’t fooling me. Have a good day.

it’s toxic because it’s a complete lie that you’re telling to create racial strife, purposefully or perhaps as a troll. ho hum. I do wonder how you can explain the Eliot Hine renovation (90% black school.)

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Anonymous wrote:I think one reason white families do not apply for Banneker at higher rates is because of the feeling that is the application school "for" high achieved ng black kids and that it is not fair for white students to take those spots. This is very much baked into the culture of the school and when there were fewer white families staying in DCPS through 12th it was less of an issue. But now more white families want to stay and there are not enough spots and academically challenging high schools so you see the percentage of white students at Banneker creeping up. If that number increased enough to change the culture if the school, I think you would see some unhappiness among black families.

This is very true. It's also true that the surrounding neighborhood is a LOT more white these days, those families have opted into the DCPS elementaries, and the interest in Banneker from that group is enormous. They see the Banneker kids walking around the neighborhood and at Seaton (where they go to fulfill their community service hours) and there is a huge amount of interest in the school. So we'll see what happens over the years. I don't know what the ideal non-Black percentage is so that it can still be a place a Black excellence.

Why is it that black people just can’t have something nice without others trying to intrude? They tried to disrespect Howard University by treating it as a dog park and now they’re trying to take Banneker High School. The black students at Banneker are doing fine and don’t need to be saved from those with a “colonizer mindset”. It doesn’t cost anything to just leave these students and their families alone. They don’t need affluent others on the PTO trying to change the culture of the school. LEAVE THEM ALONE.

Now imagine that a white person posted this about Black kids attending SWW.

You don’t have to post it because everyone knows that you “affluent” parents say that about black children anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:I think one reason white families do not apply for Banneker at higher rates is because of the feeling that is the application school "for" high achieved ng black kids and that it is not fair for white students to take those spots. This is very much baked into the culture of the school and when there were fewer white families staying in DCPS through 12th it was less of an issue. But now more white families want to stay and there are not enough spots and academically challenging high schools so you see the percentage of white students at Banneker creeping up. If that number increased enough to change the culture if the school, I think you would see some unhappiness among black families.

This is very true. It's also true that the surrounding neighborhood is a LOT more white these days, those families have opted into the DCPS elementaries, and the interest in Banneker from that group is enormous. They see the Banneker kids walking around the neighborhood and at Seaton (where they go to fulfill their community service hours) and there is a huge amount of interest in the school. So we'll see what happens over the years. I don't know what the ideal non-Black percentage is so that it can still be a place a Black excellence.

Why is it that black people just can’t have something nice without others trying to intrude? They tried to disrespect Howard University by treating it as a dog park and now they’re trying to take Banneker High School. The black students at Banneker are doing fine and don’t need to be saved from those with a “colonizer mindset”. It doesn’t cost anything to just leave these students and their families alone. They don’t need affluent others on the PTO trying to change the culture of the school. LEAVE THEM ALONE.

troll

Anytime anyone says anything supporting black people, it’s always considered a troll to some of this board. I’m just speaking the truth from a perspective of a black person living in DC since I was born in the 1990s. Has it ever occurred that high achieving black families want to send their black children to a predominately black school with other high achieving black children?

So your pro-segregation?

And you think it's ok for high-achieving black families to horde resources?

If you are not a troll, you might as well be.

It’s only a problem when black families do it huh? Where’s your disdain for the affluent white families in Ward 3 who continue to hoard resources at schools like Janney, Key, Lafayette, Deal, Mann etc? I get the feeling that you think anytime the playing field is being leveled it’s unfair to white people. You somehow believe that black children excelling in a nurturing environment like Banneker is a threat to white children. Why is that? I would truly like to know.

What resources are white families hoarding at these schools?

Tons of money. It’s shameful that a school can fundraise $500,000 but then turn around and get upset about their school budget.

what school raises that much??

Janney, Key, Lafayette, Mann, Maury, Murch

Maury does not raise $500K. That’s completely untrue.

Well whatever the amount is, I’m sure it’s close to that amount. The design of that new building signals to me and others that people with significant amounts of money and resources had influence over the project.

that’s a really dumb take. it’s literally less thab 1/2 that amount. Nd the parents wish they had more say in the modernization plans! not to mention the fact that the school was expanded and many of the new seats went to OOB students.

It might seem like a dumb take to you, but I can assure you that many people share this sentiment. Just ask any black folks what they think about the building and they will all say the same thing. They will all say that DCPS shoved out tons of money so white folks in the neighborhood could have a state of the art building. DCPS didn’t renovate this building to serve black children. They renovated it so that more white children would enroll. That’s the truth.

oh ffs. DCPS renovates schools on a cycle. many W7 and 8 schools got renovated. This kind of comment is just dumb as rocks and makes it sound like you’re trying to aggravate racial issues.

While that might be true regarding the renovation cycle, the materials and designs of the renovated schools in wards 7 and 8 are significantly lesser quality than what you find at renovated schools in ward 3. Compare the Murch renovation with the renovation of Kimball and CW Harris and then get back to me.

Yeah you’re going to have to back this up with some actual budget numbers buddy. I just googled Kimball and it looks basically the same as Maury. (For that matter I didn’t love the Maury reno so it’s dumb to conclude that a different design is somehow racist.)

https://eastoftheriverdcnews.com/2019/07/10/kimball-elementary-school-renovation-nears-completion/

I was referring to the quality of the building materials, finishes, room layouts, color schemes, flooring etc inside of the school. Now show me pictures comparing the inside of CW Harris, Kimball vs Maury and Murch. Quickly now…

mm hmm. the construction budgets are all public - you show us the numbers. in the mean time I’ll assume that you’re full of sh*t.

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Anonymous wrote:I think one reason white families do not apply for Banneker at higher rates is because of the feeling that is the application school "for" high achieved ng black kids and that it is not fair for white students to take those spots. This is very much baked into the culture of the school and when there were fewer white families staying in DCPS through 12th it was less of an issue. But now more white families want to stay and there are not enough spots and academically challenging high schools so you see the percentage of white students at Banneker creeping up. If that number increased enough to change the culture if the school, I think you would see some unhappiness among black families.

This is very true. It's also true that the surrounding neighborhood is a LOT more white these days, those families have opted into the DCPS elementaries, and the interest in Banneker from that group is enormous. They see the Banneker kids walking around the neighborhood and at Seaton (where they go to fulfill their community service hours) and there is a huge amount of interest in the school. So we'll see what happens over the years. I don't know what the ideal non-Black percentage is so that it can still be a place a Black excellence.

Why is it that black people just can’t have something nice without others trying to intrude? They tried to disrespect Howard University by treating it as a dog park and now they’re trying to take Banneker High School. The black students at Banneker are doing fine and don’t need to be saved from those with a “colonizer mindset”. It doesn’t cost anything to just leave these students and their families alone. They don’t need affluent others on the PTO trying to change the culture of the school. LEAVE THEM ALONE.

Now imagine that a white person posted this about Black kids attending SWW.

You don’t have to post it because everyone knows that you “affluent” parents say that about black children anyway.

This is the People’s Republic of DC, lady. Literally no one says that about Black kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I think one reason white families do not apply for Banneker at higher rates is because of the feeling that is the application school "for" high achieved ng black kids and that it is not fair for white students to take those spots. This is very much baked into the culture of the school and when there were fewer white families staying in DCPS through 12th it was less of an issue. But now more white families want to stay and there are not enough spots and academically challenging high schools so you see the percentage of white students at Banneker creeping up. If that number increased enough to change the culture if the school, I think you would see some unhappiness among black families.

This is very true. It's also true that the surrounding neighborhood is a LOT more white these days, those families have opted into the DCPS elementaries, and the interest in Banneker from that group is enormous. They see the Banneker kids walking around the neighborhood and at Seaton (where they go to fulfill their community service hours) and there is a huge amount of interest in the school. So we'll see what happens over the years. I don't know what the ideal non-Black percentage is so that it can still be a place a Black excellence.

Why is it that black people just can’t have something nice without others trying to intrude? They tried to disrespect Howard University by treating it as a dog park and now they’re trying to take Banneker High School. The black students at Banneker are doing fine and don’t need to be saved from those with a “colonizer mindset”. It doesn’t cost anything to just leave these students and their families alone. They don’t need affluent others on the PTO trying to change the culture of the school. LEAVE THEM ALONE.

Now imagine that a white person posted this about Black kids attending SWW.

You don’t have to post it because everyone knows that you “affluent” parents say that about black children anyway.

This is the People’s Republic of DC, lady. Literally no one says that about Black kids.

Are you serious? When the affluent people get together at exclusive play dates and birthday parties, all sorts of racist rhetoric is spewed about black children.

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Anonymous wrote:I think one reason white families do not apply for Banneker at higher rates is because of the feeling that is the application school "for" high achieved ng black kids and that it is not fair for white students to take those spots. This is very much baked into the culture of the school and when there were fewer white families staying in DCPS through 12th it was less of an issue. But now more white families want to stay and there are not enough spots and academically challenging high schools so you see the percentage of white students at Banneker creeping up. If that number increased enough to change the culture if the school, I think you would see some unhappiness among black families.

This is very true. It's also true that the surrounding neighborhood is a LOT more white these days, those families have opted into the DCPS elementaries, and the interest in Banneker from that group is enormous. They see the Banneker kids walking around the neighborhood and at Seaton (where they go to fulfill their community service hours) and there is a huge amount of interest in the school. So we'll see what happens over the years. I don't know what the ideal non-Black percentage is so that it can still be a place a Black excellence.

Why is it that black people just can’t have something nice without others trying to intrude? They tried to disrespect Howard University by treating it as a dog park and now they’re trying to take Banneker High School. The black students at Banneker are doing fine and don’t need to be saved from those with a “colonizer mindset”. It doesn’t cost anything to just leave these students and their families alone. They don’t need affluent others on the PTO trying to change the culture of the school. LEAVE THEM ALONE.

Now imagine that a white person posted this about Black kids attending SWW.

You don’t have to post it because everyone knows that you “affluent” parents say that about black children anyway.

This is the People’s Republic of DC, lady. Literally no one says that about Black kids.

Are you serious? When the affluent people get together at exclusive play dates and birthday parties, all sorts of racist rhetoric is spewed about black children.

+100! And these affluent folks…I mean white folks sit up here on this message board talking badly about out of boundary students all the time. Even Stevie Wonder can see that they always mean black children when they say that. So yes, black children are trashed and derided and maligned all the time by you folks.

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Anonymous wrote:I think one reason white families do not apply for Banneker at higher rates is because of the feeling that is the application school "for" high achieved ng black kids and that it is not fair for white students to take those spots. This is very much baked into the culture of the school and when there were fewer white families staying in DCPS through 12th it was less of an issue. But now more white families want to stay and there are not enough spots and academically challenging high schools so you see the percentage of white students at Banneker creeping up. If that number increased enough to change the culture if the school, I think you would see some unhappiness among black families.

This is very true. It's also true that the surrounding neighborhood is a LOT more white these days, those families have opted into the DCPS elementaries, and the interest in Banneker from that group is enormous. They see the Banneker kids walking around the neighborhood and at Seaton (where they go to fulfill their community service hours) and there is a huge amount of interest in the school. So we'll see what happens over the years. I don't know what the ideal non-Black percentage is so that it can still be a place a Black excellence.

Why is it that black people just can’t have something nice without others trying to intrude? They tried to disrespect Howard University by treating it as a dog park and now they’re trying to take Banneker High School. The black students at Banneker are doing fine and don’t need to be saved from those with a “colonizer mindset”. It doesn’t cost anything to just leave these students and their families alone. They don’t need affluent others on the PTO trying to change the culture of the school. LEAVE THEM ALONE.

Now imagine that a white person posted this about Black kids attending SWW.

You don’t have to post it because everyone knows that you “affluent” parents say that about black children anyway.

No, actually we don't. If we did it would pop up somwhere on this anonymous message board, and it doesn't. Those of us who have chosen to live out our adult lives and raise our children as citizens of the District of Columbia chose to live in a predominantly black city. We chose that. Yes, it changed over time to be more diverse and has more hispanic and white citizens and children, but, for most of us it was predominantly black when we chose it. Why would we (assuming that we had other options and could have bought or rented in predominantly white areas) do that if we were the most racist people in our region? Certainly everyone in our society holds racist beliefs. That's just reality. But, why would we send our kids to schools that are not predominantly white (which I and many of those you are writing to do if we were the most obviouly racist whites around? We wouldn't. Younger generations are gradually becoming less racist, which I think is great. We are lest focused on voting with our feet and creating segregated schools. If you're this anti-white, I would ask you to examine your beliefs. Are they possibly racist?