Banneker HS - College and Score Outcomes

[Anonymous]

My son also got into CTY and didn't even get an interview at Banneker. I suspect these two aren't the only ones.

[Anonymous]

So who's kicking off the class action? That's the only way you'll see changes......

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son also got into CTY and didn't even get an interview at Banneker. I suspect these two aren't the only ones.

They aren't. We know two others from post 7th grade CTY who got the "ineligible" email from Banneker after interviewing (indicating no WL number granted).

CTY rocks, logical admissions system, high and transparent bar to clear.

Banneker's system is alternate universe diabolical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son also got into CTY and didn't even get an interview at Banneker. I suspect these two aren't the only ones.

They aren't. We know two others from post 7th grade CTY who got the "ineligible" email from Banneker after interviewing (indicating no WL number granted).

CTY rocks, logical admissions system, high and transparent bar to clear.

Banneker's system is alternate universe diabolical.

Because they offer a test that you can pay to prep for?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son also got into CTY and didn't even get an interview at Banneker. I suspect these two aren't the only ones.

They aren't. We know two others from post 7th grade CTY who got the "ineligible" email from Banneker after interviewing (indicating no WL number granted).

CTY rocks, logical admissions system, high and transparent bar to clear.

Banneker's system is alternate universe diabolical.

Because they offer a test that you can pay to prep for?

Pay to take, too, right? No one offered my middle school student a free SAT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son also got into CTY and didn't even get an interview at Banneker. I suspect these two aren't the only ones.

They aren't. We know two others from post 7th grade CTY who got the "ineligible" email from Banneker after interviewing (indicating no WL number granted).

CTY rocks, logical admissions system, high and transparent bar to clear.

Banneker's system is alternate universe diabolical.

Because they offer a test that you can pay to prep for?

Pay to take, too, right? No one offered my middle school student a free SAT.

Poor thing! That must make standardized testing completely invalid!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not a failure to "cater" to high-performing students. It's a failure to meet their education needs.

What are you talking about? The complaint is that a single high-scoring 8th grader didn't get in, even though they're great at the SAT. Banneker doesn't have to meet the needs of students who do not attend Banneker, and the complaint on the table is absolutely that the school isn't catering to the kinds of high-SES parents who make their middle schoolers take the SAT to show off. SAT scores aren't considered in admission to high schools because *middle schoolers don't take the SAT*.

What's fun is the assumption that since this kid is good at math and, by his mom's account, otherwise charming - then all the kids who did get into Banneker must be less intelligent and getting some kind of preferential treatment they don't deserve. I feel like you people can't even hear yourselves.

Wrong. Given that the girl works 2-3 years ahead of grade level in middle school math, her stellar early SAT scores do no more than reflect her exceptional aptitude and hard work as an 8th grade student of high merit. An entrance exam to Banneker testing above-grade-level math would have further attested to her exceptional achievement. In another city, where the magnet high school admissions system resembles something akin to a Jeffersonian Meritocracy, such a student would almost certainly been identified as a highly desirable applicant, a stand-out, before being admitted. In said city, ed system leaders would have followed the logic of snatching her up before some tony private school reeled her in with a juicy merit scholarship or she landed in a prestigious suburban test-in program. But here in the urban academic doldrums--DCPS--she's eminently expendable. The joke is clearly on our public schools.

People like you clearly lack analytical thinking skills, mired in relativism as you are in your woke miasma.

Purple prose aside: hahaha. No, that's not how "said cities" work. Stuyvesant isn't frantically competing to keep kids out of private schools. Boston Latin isn't snatching kids out of the jaws of BB&N. No public school "competes" for kids like this outside of your fever dreams. They're not worried about kids escaping their grasp to the wicked world of privates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not a failure to "cater" to high-performing students. It's a failure to meet their education needs.

What are you talking about? The complaint is that a single high-scoring 8th grader didn't get in, even though they're great at the SAT. Banneker doesn't have to meet the needs of students who do not attend Banneker, and the complaint on the table is absolutely that the school isn't catering to the kinds of high-SES parents who make their middle schoolers take the SAT to show off. SAT scores aren't considered in admission to high schools because *middle schoolers don't take the SAT*.

What's fun is the assumption that since this kid is good at math and, by his mom's account, otherwise charming - then all the kids who did get into Banneker must be less intelligent and getting some kind of preferential treatment they don't deserve. I feel like you people can't even hear yourselves.

Wrong. Given that the girl works 2-3 years ahead of grade level in middle school math, her stellar early SAT scores do no more than reflect her exceptional aptitude and hard work as an 8th grade student of high merit. An entrance exam to Banneker testing above-grade-level math would have further attested to her exceptional achievement. In another city, where the magnet high school admissions system resembles something akin to a Jeffersonian Meritocracy, such a student would almost certainly been identified as a highly desirable applicant, a stand-out, before being admitted. In said city, ed system leaders would have followed the logic of snatching her up before some tony private school reeled her in with a juicy merit scholarship or she landed in a prestigious suburban test-in program. But here in the urban academic doldrums--DCPS--she's eminently expendable. The joke is clearly on our public schools.

People like you clearly lack analytical thinking skills, mired in relativism as you are in your woke miasma.

Purple prose aside: hahaha. No, that's not how "said cities" work. Stuyvesant isn't frantically competing to keep kids out of private schools. Boston Latin isn't snatching kids out of the jaws of BB&N. No public school "competes" for kids like this outside of your fever dreams. They're not worried about kids escaping their grasp to the wicked world of privates.

Actually, a lot of schools do seek excellence. DCPS just looks for excuses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not a failure to "cater" to high-performing students. It's a failure to meet their education needs.

What are you talking about? The complaint is that a single high-scoring 8th grader didn't get in, even though they're great at the SAT. Banneker doesn't have to meet the needs of students who do not attend Banneker, and the complaint on the table is absolutely that the school isn't catering to the kinds of high-SES parents who make their middle schoolers take the SAT to show off. SAT scores aren't considered in admission to high schools because *middle schoolers don't take the SAT*.

What's fun is the assumption that since this kid is good at math and, by his mom's account, otherwise charming - then all the kids who did get into Banneker must be less intelligent and getting some kind of preferential treatment they don't deserve. I feel like you people can't even hear yourselves.

Wrong. Given that the girl works 2-3 years ahead of grade level in middle school math, her stellar early SAT scores do no more than reflect her exceptional aptitude and hard work as an 8th grade student of high merit. An entrance exam to Banneker testing above-grade-level math would have further attested to her exceptional achievement. In another city, where the magnet high school admissions system resembles something akin to a Jeffersonian Meritocracy, such a student would almost certainly been identified as a highly desirable applicant, a stand-out, before being admitted. In said city, ed system leaders would have followed the logic of snatching her up before some tony private school reeled her in with a juicy merit scholarship or she landed in a prestigious suburban test-in program. But here in the urban academic doldrums--DCPS--she's eminently expendable. The joke is clearly on our public schools.

People like you clearly lack analytical thinking skills, mired in relativism as you are in your woke miasma.

Purple prose aside: hahaha. No, that's not how "said cities" work. Stuyvesant isn't frantically competing to keep kids out of private schools. Boston Latin isn't snatching kids out of the jaws of BB&N. No public school "competes" for kids like this outside of your fever dreams. They're not worried about kids escaping their grasp to the wicked world of privates.

Actually, a lot of schools do seek excellence. DCPS just looks for excuses.

"Seek excellence" (another nearly meaningless phrase from a seemingly bottomless well of same) != "ed system leaders" for test-in public schools scouting for and intent on "reeling in" particular students. There's no St. Vincent-St. Mary for academic decathlon, sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son also got into CTY and didn't even get an interview at Banneker. I suspect these two aren't the only ones.

They aren't. We know two others from post 7th grade CTY who got the "ineligible" email from Banneker after interviewing (indicating no WL number granted).

CTY rocks, logical admissions system, high and transparent bar to clear.

Banneker's system is alternate universe diabolical.

Because they offer a test that you can pay to prep for?

Pay to take, too, right? No one offered my middle school student a free SAT.

You can submit PARCC scores to qualify for CTY— that’s what my child did. No need to pay for the SAT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son also got into CTY and didn't even get an interview at Banneker. I suspect these two aren't the only ones.

They aren't. We know two others from post 7th grade CTY who got the "ineligible" email from Banneker after interviewing (indicating no WL number granted).

CTY rocks, logical admissions system, high and transparent bar to clear.

Banneker's system is alternate universe diabolical.

Because they offer a test that you can pay to prep for?

Pay to take, too, right? No one offered my middle school student a free SAT.

You can submit PARCC scores to qualify for CTY— that’s what my child did. No need to pay for the SAT.

This. CTY is trying to make this process more equitable, though they should make it better known, too. Also, I grew up in a working class town and the school actually did administer the SAT to a group of us for free, for this purpose.

[Anonymous]

Why is a test score based system so preferable? What if a kid is really bright but doesn't test well on standardized tests?

[Anonymous]

It’s great CTY will take PARCC now, but in that case why are we talking about CTY at all? Just cut out the middleman and say DCPS application schools should be allowed to look at PARCC scores.

[Anonymous]

Test scores are more of a correlation with SES than intelligence

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Test scores are more of a correlation with SES than intelligence

Then stratify by SES and at least take the smarter UMC kids over the dumber ones.