NCS - Pros and Cons

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Anonymous wrote:Reined in DEI how? I beg to differ, and an URM at the school I’m quite happy at the commitment. After all they turned down funds from a donor who wanted to restrict use of money to anything but DEI. Racist much there are you?

Glad NCS is committed and hope they think about how and why black educators keep leaving their school without resorting to the usual NCS excuses.

These exits have become a pattern and they need to do something about it - yesterday.

Teacher here. Most black/A-A academics are uninterested in teaching at PWIs, especially the Big 3.

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Yes. We came from DCPS and most of the educators were black, even in our predominant white elementary and middle schools. The have no interest in switching over to private schools.

why?

Because many, if not most, of them went into teaching based on their desire to challenge and end systemic racism. Private schools have that built in, given the intersection of socioeconomic class and race in this country.

I don’t think many teachers (black or not) go into education desiring to challenge and end systemic racism.

My opinion: Teachers generally are leaving education due to unreasonable parent expectations, lack of support from administrators, and decreased focus from students. The parent piece and the administrative support piece can be particularly troublesome in some private schools. Unfortunately, word travels.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Reined in DEI how? I beg to differ, and an URM at the school I’m quite happy at the commitment. After all they turned down funds from a donor who wanted to restrict use of money to anything but DEI. Racist much there are you?

Glad NCS is committed and hope they think about how and why black educators keep leaving their school without resorting to the usual NCS excuses.

These exits have become a pattern and they need to do something about it - yesterday.

Teacher here. Most black/A-A academics are uninterested in teaching at PWIs, especially the Big 3.

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Yes. We came from DCPS and most of the educators were black, even in our predominant white elementary and middle schools. The have no interest in switching over to private schools.

why?

Because many, if not most, of them went into teaching based on their desire to challenge and end systemic racism. Private schools have that built in, given the intersection of socioeconomic class and race in this country.

I can't follow that at all. you're saying that is the reason why Black teachers are leaving privates to go to publics?

They're not leaving because they never really arrived. Black/A-A/BIPOC faculty have always been a minority in private schools in the area, especially in the Big 3. Most of the black/A-A-/BIPOC people I went to graduate school with (in education) were invested in the changing education given their own lived experiences as students of color. They articulated a clear interest in making currirculcar and pedagogical changes that would ensure equity among their students. Private schools, particularly the ones in any metropolitan areas, are so prohibitively expensive that most families cannot afford them, regardless of race. However, given how race and socioeconomic class are inherently intertwined in our society, it's especially families of color, particularly those in the middle class, who are excluded from these private schools. Why would a teacher who is invested in changing the landscape of education to ensure equity among students be eager to teach in a private school whose very existence is based upon such an exclusion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reined in DEI how? I beg to differ, and an URM at the school I’m quite happy at the commitment. After all they turned down funds from a donor who wanted to restrict use of money to anything but DEI. Racist much there are you?

Glad NCS is committed and hope they think about how and why black educators keep leaving their school without resorting to the usual NCS excuses.

These exits have become a pattern and they need to do something about it - yesterday.

Teacher here. Most black/A-A academics are uninterested in teaching at PWIs, especially the Big 3.

'



Yes. We came from DCPS and most of the educators were black, even in our predominant white elementary and middle schools. The have no interest in switching over to private schools.

why?

Because many, if not most, of them went into teaching based on their desire to challenge and end systemic racism. Private schools have that built in, given the intersection of socioeconomic class and race in this country.

I don’t think many teachers (black or not) go into education desiring to challenge and end systemic racism.

My opinion: Teachers generally are leaving education due to unreasonable parent expectations, lack of support from administrators, and decreased focus from students. The parent piece and the administrative support piece can be particularly troublesome in some private schools. Unfortunately, word travels.

All my experience as an education major and in my twenty years teaching experience suggests otherwise. What you describe above applies to any person in the field of the education, especially post-COVID. The point is most black academics are uninterested in working at PWIs because these institutions tend to perpetuate the very isms these teachers have sought to undermine, if not outright extirpate. To quote one of my friends when I asked him if he were interested in teaching at my school, "Why would I want to teach in that cracker box?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reined in DEI how? I beg to differ, and an URM at the school I’m quite happy at the commitment. After all they turned down funds from a donor who wanted to restrict use of money to anything but DEI. Racist much there are you?

Glad NCS is committed and hope they think about how and why black educators keep leaving their school without resorting to the usual NCS excuses.

These exits have become a pattern and they need to do something about it - yesterday.

Teacher here. Most black/A-A academics are uninterested in teaching at PWIs, especially the Big 3.

'



Yes. We came from DCPS and most of the educators were black, even in our predominant white elementary and middle schools. The have no interest in switching over to private schools.

why?

Because many, if not most, of them went into teaching based on their desire to challenge and end systemic racism. Private schools have that built in, given the intersection of socioeconomic class and race in this country.

I don’t think many teachers (black or not) go into education desiring to challenge and end systemic racism.

My opinion: Teachers generally are leaving education due to unreasonable parent expectations, lack of support from administrators, and decreased focus from students. The parent piece and the administrative support piece can be particularly troublesome in some private schools. Unfortunately, word travels.

All my experience as an education major and in my twenty years teaching experience suggests otherwise. What you describe above applies to any person in the field of the education, especially post-COVID. The point is most black academics are uninterested in working at PWIs because these institutions tend to perpetuate the very isms these teachers have sought to undermine, if not outright extirpate. To quote one of my friends when I asked him if he were interested in teaching at my school, "Why would I want to teach in that cracker box?"

Now you’ve really lost me. Are you saying that the whites are racist or the blacks? Or both?

[Anonymous]

Why would a teacher who is invested in changing the landscape of education to ensure equity among students be eager to teach in a private school whose very existence is based upon such an exclusion?

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reined in DEI how? I beg to differ, and an URM at the school I’m quite happy at the commitment. After all they turned down funds from a donor who wanted to restrict use of money to anything but DEI. Racist much there are you?

Glad NCS is committed and hope they think about how and why black educators keep leaving their school without resorting to the usual NCS excuses.

These exits have become a pattern and they need to do something about it - yesterday.

Teacher here. Most black/A-A academics are uninterested in teaching at PWIs, especially the Big 3.

'



Yes. We came from DCPS and most of the educators were black, even in our predominant white elementary and middle schools. The have no interest in switching over to private schools.

why?

Because many, if not most, of them went into teaching based on their desire to challenge and end systemic racism. Private schools have that built in, given the intersection of socioeconomic class and race in this country.

I don’t think many teachers (black or not) go into education desiring to challenge and end systemic racism.

My opinion: Teachers generally are leaving education due to unreasonable parent expectations, lack of support from administrators, and decreased focus from students. The parent piece and the administrative support piece can be particularly troublesome in some private schools. Unfortunately, word travels.

All my experience as an education major and in my twenty years teaching experience suggests otherwise. What you describe above applies to any person in the field of the education, especially post-COVID. The point is most black academics are uninterested in working at PWIs because these institutions tend to perpetuate the very isms these teachers have sought to undermine, if not outright extirpate. To quote one of my friends when I asked him if he were interested in teaching at my school, "Why would I want to teach in that cracker box?"

Now you’ve really lost me. Are you saying that the whites are racist or the blacks? Or both?

Obtuse much?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reined in DEI how? I beg to differ, and an URM at the school I’m quite happy at the commitment. After all they turned down funds from a donor who wanted to restrict use of money to anything but DEI. Racist much there are you?

Glad NCS is committed and hope they think about how and why black educators keep leaving their school without resorting to the usual NCS excuses.

These exits have become a pattern and they need to do something about it - yesterday.

Teacher here. Most black/A-A academics are uninterested in teaching at PWIs, especially the Big 3.

'



Yes. We came from DCPS and most of the educators were black, even in our predominant white elementary and middle schools. The have no interest in switching over to private schools.

why?

Because many, if not most, of them went into teaching based on their desire to challenge and end systemic racism. Private schools have that built in, given the intersection of socioeconomic class and race in this country.

I don’t think many teachers (black or not) go into education desiring to challenge and end systemic racism.

My opinion: Teachers generally are leaving education due to unreasonable parent expectations, lack of support from administrators, and decreased focus from students. The parent piece and the administrative support piece can be particularly troublesome in some private schools. Unfortunately, word travels.

All my experience as an education major and in my twenty years teaching experience suggests otherwise. What you describe above applies to any person in the field of the education, especially post-COVID. The point is most black academics are uninterested in working at PWIs because these institutions tend to perpetuate the very isms these teachers have sought to undermine, if not outright extirpate. To quote one of my friends when I asked him if he were interested in teaching at my school, "Why would I want to teach in that cracker box?"

Now you’ve really lost me. Are you saying that the whites are racist or the blacks? Or both?

Obtuse much?

Last time I checked, cracker is a racial slur. I don’t care that your friend said it, because people of all races use dumb slang all the time, and it’s not that big a deal. But the fact that you would cite your friend’s slur as an argument that whites are racist, and then call me obtuse for calling it out, shows how crazy the DEI crowd has become. This thread seems to say that the racism situation at NCS is driving away people both Black and White, including quality teachers and at least one family who tried to give the school money and was told to get lost. So tell me, ido the majority of people at NCS agree with you that cracker is an ok term to use?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reined in DEI how? I beg to differ, and an URM at the school I’m quite happy at the commitment. After all they turned down funds from a donor who wanted to restrict use of money to anything but DEI. Racist much there are you?

Glad NCS is committed and hope they think about how and why black educators keep leaving their school without resorting to the usual NCS excuses.

These exits have become a pattern and they need to do something about it - yesterday.

Teacher here. Most black/A-A academics are uninterested in teaching at PWIs, especially the Big 3.

'


Yes. We came from DCPS and most of the educators were black, even in our predominant white elementary and middle schools. The have no interest in switching over to private schools.

why?

Because many, if not most, of them went into teaching based on their desire to challenge and end systemic racism. Private schools have that built in, given the intersection of socioeconomic class and race in this country.

I can't follow that at all. you're saying that is the reason why Black teachers are leaving privates to go to publics?

They're not leaving because they never really arrived. Black/A-A/BIPOC faculty have always been a minority in private schools in the area, especially in the Big 3. Most of the black/A-A-/BIPOC people I went to graduate school with (in education) were invested in the changing education given their own lived experiences as students of color. They articulated a clear interest in making currirculcar and pedagogical changes that would ensure equity among their students. Private schools, particularly the ones in any metropolitan areas, are so prohibitively expensive that most families cannot afford them, regardless of race. However, given how race and socioeconomic class are inherently intertwined in our society, it's especially families of color, particularly those in the middle class, who are excluded from these private schools. Why would a teacher who is invested in changing the landscape of education to ensure equity among students be eager to teach in a private school whose very existence is based upon such an exclusion?

It sounds like the school is structurally racist in spite of many years investment in DEI. Am I understanding you correctly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reined in DEI how? I beg to differ, and an URM at the school I’m quite happy at the commitment. After all they turned down funds from a donor who wanted to restrict use of money to anything but DEI. Racist much there are you?

Glad NCS is committed and hope they think about how and why black educators keep leaving their school without resorting to the usual NCS excuses.

These exits have become a pattern and they need to do something about it - yesterday.

Teacher here. Most black/A-A academics are uninterested in teaching at PWIs, especially the Big 3.

'



Yes. We came from DCPS and most of the educators were black, even in our predominant white elementary and middle schools. The have no interest in switching over to private schools.

why?

Because many, if not most, of them went into teaching based on their desire to challenge and end systemic racism. Private schools have that built in, given the intersection of socioeconomic class and race in this country.

I don’t think many teachers (black or not) go into education desiring to challenge and end systemic racism.

My opinion: Teachers generally are leaving education due to unreasonable parent expectations, lack of support from administrators, and decreased focus from students. The parent piece and the administrative support piece can be particularly troublesome in some private schools. Unfortunately, word travels.

All my experience as an education major and in my twenty years teaching experience suggests otherwise. What you describe above applies to any person in the field of the education, especially post-COVID. The point is most black academics are uninterested in working at PWIs because these institutions tend to perpetuate the very isms these teachers have sought to undermine, if not outright extirpate. To quote one of my friends when I asked him if he were interested in teaching at my school, "Why would I want to teach in that cracker box?"

Now you’ve really lost me. Are you saying that the whites are racist or the blacks? Or both?

Obtuse much?

Last time I checked, cracker is a racial slur. I don’t care that your friend said it, because people of all races use dumb slang all the time, and it’s not that big a deal. But the fact that you would cite your friend’s slur as an argument that whites are racist, and then call me obtuse for calling it out, shows how crazy the DEI crowd has become. This thread seems to say that the racism situation at NCS is driving away people both Black and White, including quality teachers and at least one family who tried to give the school money and was told to get lost. So tell me, ido the majority of people at NCS agree with you that cracker is an ok term to use?

Critical thinking isn't your forte, is it? Knee-jerk reactionary thought, is, though.

[Anonymous]

So here’s a question. My DH and I are conservative and voted for Trump. We are Catholic and pro life. Our daughter shares our values. Would our family be welcome at NCS?

[Anonymous]

“That cracker box.”

Obama, Clinton, Bidens, etc.

Even Marion Barry put his son Christopher into “A cracker box” St. Albans but he misbehaved.

Most privates are far more ethnically and economically diverse than public schools with broad support from parents and faculty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“That cracker box.”

Obama, Clinton, Bidens, etc.

Even Marion Barry put his son Christopher into “A cracker box” St. Albans but he misbehaved.

Most privates are far more ethnically and economically diverse than public schools with broad support from parents and faculty.

Really?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So here’s a question. My DH and I are conservative and voted for Trump. We are Catholic and pro life. Our daughter shares our values. Would our family be welcome at NCS?

In a word, no.

[Anonymous]

DEI at NCS is over the top and needs to tilt back. Been on the Close for 13 years. Students at NCS are all pretty self-aware and don't need this rammed down their throats at every turn. If Close parents wanted a movement instead of a school, they would have applied elsewhere. This is coming from a progressive, by the way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So here’s a question. My DH and I are conservative and voted for Trump. We are Catholic and pro life. Our daughter shares our values. Would our family be welcome at NCS?

In a word, no.

Then you don’t really have a school. You have a one party, one ideology echo chamber.