NCS - Pros and Cons

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Anonymous wrote:Reined in DEI how? I beg to differ, and an URM at the school I’m quite happy at the commitment. After all they turned down funds from a donor who wanted to restrict use of money to anything but DEI. Racist much there are you?

Glad NCS is committed and hope they think about how and why black educators keep leaving their school without resorting to the usual NCS excuses.

These exits have become a pattern and they need to do something about it - yesterday.

Teacher here. Most black/A-A academics are uninterested in teaching at PWIs, especially the Big 3.

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Yes. We came from DCPS and most of the educators were black, even in our predominant white elementary and middle schools. The have no interest in switching over to private schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reined in DEI how? I beg to differ, and an URM at the school I’m quite happy at the commitment. After all they turned down funds from a donor who wanted to restrict use of money to anything but DEI. Racist much there are you?

Glad NCS is committed and hope they think about how and why black educators keep leaving their school without resorting to the usual NCS excuses.

These exits have become a pattern and they need to do something about it - yesterday.

Teacher here. Most black/A-A academics are uninterested in teaching at PWIs, especially the Big 3.

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Yes. We came from DCPS and most of the educators were black, even in our predominant white elementary and middle schools. The have no interest in switching over to private schools.

why?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reined in DEI how? I beg to differ, and an URM at the school I’m quite happy at the commitment. After all they turned down funds from a donor who wanted to restrict use of money to anything but DEI. Racist much there are you?

Glad NCS is committed and hope they think about how and why black educators keep leaving their school without resorting to the usual NCS excuses.

These exits have become a pattern and they need to do something about it - yesterday.

Teacher here. Most black/A-A academics are uninterested in teaching at PWIs, especially the Big 3.

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Yes. We came from DCPS and most of the educators were black, even in our predominant white elementary and middle schools. The have no interest in switching over to private schools.

Exactly why it’s a huge deal to lose three (or more) successful black educators in one year. There aren’t many to begin with and it changes the fabric of the community significantly, especially for the URM students on campus.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For the younger grades, is there a playground where they go for recess?

No playground equipment, just open space (Cathedral lawn). The play games and run around but there aren’t swing sets or slides or climbing bars. Keep in mind they start at 4th. Beauvoir has full playground equipment.

Wow, didn't realize that. This point would be a big negative to me.

Does St Albans have a playground for the lower school boys?

No. Boys run around and do the same thing the girls do. No playground. But of course the NCS haters just can’t help themselves.

They have sport courts. Not a public space.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Both of my girls are at NCS and both have been through 4th grade, and I have no memories of girls just sitting around talking "smack" about each other. Those of you, who seem to think that this is all girls can/will do without other distraction think very little of girls. What I observed both times where girls who were actually pretty creative coming up with things to do, games to play, etc. Imagine that you can actually pretend play, play tag/freeze, do cartwheels, play sports (my girls often took their soccer balls for this exact purpose), jump rope in a big open field. But look, NCS still remains as one of the most competitive schools to get into so we certainly not hurting for applicants. By all means, apply elsewhere. GDS has a beautiful playground for its students.

This comment actually cracks me up- could you imagine the dcum response if any dcps school had their 4th and 5th grade girls play in a public park for outdoor time/recess? But since it’s ncs it’s great!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both of my girls are at NCS and both have been through 4th grade, and I have no memories of girls just sitting around talking "smack" about each other. Those of you, who seem to think that this is all girls can/will do without other distraction think very little of girls. What I observed both times where girls who were actually pretty creative coming up with things to do, games to play, etc. Imagine that you can actually pretend play, play tag/freeze, do cartwheels, play sports (my girls often took their soccer balls for this exact purpose), jump rope in a big open field. But look, NCS still remains as one of the most competitive schools to get into so we certainly not hurting for applicants. By all means, apply elsewhere. GDS has a beautiful playground for its students.

This comment actually cracks me up- could you imagine the dcum response if any dcps school had their 4th and 5th grade girls play in a public park for outdoor time/recess? But since it’s ncs it’s great!

The Cathedral lawn is technically public but it’s hardly a bustling city park.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both of my girls are at NCS and both have been through 4th grade, and I have no memories of girls just sitting around talking "smack" about each other. Those of you, who seem to think that this is all girls can/will do without other distraction think very little of girls. What I observed both times where girls who were actually pretty creative coming up with things to do, games to play, etc. Imagine that you can actually pretend play, play tag/freeze, do cartwheels, play sports (my girls often took their soccer balls for this exact purpose), jump rope in a big open field. But look, NCS still remains as one of the most competitive schools to get into so we certainly not hurting for applicants. By all means, apply elsewhere. GDS has a beautiful playground for its students.

This comment actually cracks me up- could you imagine the dcum response if any dcps school had their 4th and 5th grade girls play in a public park for outdoor time/recess? But since it’s ncs it’s great!

The Cathedral lawn is technically public but it’s hardly a bustling city park.

As far as I know, the Cathedral lawn is owned by the Protestant Episcopal Cathedral Foundation; it is not public property.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both of my girls are at NCS and both have been through 4th grade, and I have no memories of girls just sitting around talking "smack" about each other. Those of you, who seem to think that this is all girls can/will do without other distraction think very little of girls. What I observed both times where girls who were actually pretty creative coming up with things to do, games to play, etc. Imagine that you can actually pretend play, play tag/freeze, do cartwheels, play sports (my girls often took their soccer balls for this exact purpose), jump rope in a big open field. But look, NCS still remains as one of the most competitive schools to get into so we certainly not hurting for applicants. By all means, apply elsewhere. GDS has a beautiful playground for its students.

This comment actually cracks me up- could you imagine the dcum response if any dcps school had their 4th and 5th grade girls play in a public park for outdoor time/recess? But since it’s ncs it’s great!

The Cathedral lawn is technically public but it’s hardly a bustling city park.

As far as I know, the Cathedral lawn is owned by the Protestant Episcopal Cathedral Foundation; it is not public property.

Fair enough. It’s open to the public, however, just like the Cathedral is. I assume that’s what pp was objecting to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reined in DEI how? I beg to differ, and an URM at the school I’m quite happy at the commitment. After all they turned down funds from a donor who wanted to restrict use of money to anything but DEI. Racist much there are you?

Glad NCS is committed and hope they think about how and why black educators keep leaving their school without resorting to the usual NCS excuses.

These exits have become a pattern and they need to do something about it - yesterday.

Teacher here. Most black/A-A academics are uninterested in teaching at PWIs, especially the Big 3.

'


Yes. We came from DCPS and most of the educators were black, even in our predominant white elementary and middle schools. The have no interest in switching over to private schools.

why?

Because many, if not most, of them went into teaching based on their desire to challenge and end systemic racism. Private schools have that built in, given the intersection of socioeconomic class and race in this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both of my girls are at NCS and both have been through 4th grade, and I have no memories of girls just sitting around talking "smack" about each other. Those of you, who seem to think that this is all girls can/will do without other distraction think very little of girls. What I observed both times where girls who were actually pretty creative coming up with things to do, games to play, etc. Imagine that you can actually pretend play, play tag/freeze, do cartwheels, play sports (my girls often took their soccer balls for this exact purpose), jump rope in a big open field. But look, NCS still remains as one of the most competitive schools to get into so we certainly not hurting for applicants. By all means, apply elsewhere. GDS has a beautiful playground for its students.

This comment actually cracks me up- could you imagine the dcum response if any dcps school had their 4th and 5th grade girls play in a public park for outdoor time/recess? But since it’s ncs it’s great!

The Cathedral lawn is technically public but it’s hardly a bustling city park.

As far as I know, the Cathedral lawn is owned by the Protestant Episcopal Cathedral Foundation; it is not public property.

It is a public space bc it is by definition open to the public and anyone can access it…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reined in DEI how? I beg to differ, and an URM at the school I’m quite happy at the commitment. After all they turned down funds from a donor who wanted to restrict use of money to anything but DEI. Racist much there are you?

Glad NCS is committed and hope they think about how and why black educators keep leaving their school without resorting to the usual NCS excuses.

These exits have become a pattern and they need to do something about it - yesterday.

Teacher here. Most black/A-A academics are uninterested in teaching at PWIs, especially the Big 3.

'


Yes. We came from DCPS and most of the educators were black, even in our predominant white elementary and middle schools. The have no interest in switching over to private schools.

why?

Because many, if not most, of them went into teaching based on their desire to challenge and end systemic racism. Private schools have that built in, given the intersection of socioeconomic class and race in this country.

I can't follow that at all. you're saying that is the reason why Black teachers are leaving privates to go to publics?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reined in DEI how? I beg to differ, and an URM at the school I’m quite happy at the commitment. After all they turned down funds from a donor who wanted to restrict use of money to anything but DEI. Racist much there are you?

Glad NCS is committed and hope they think about how and why black educators keep leaving their school without resorting to the usual NCS excuses.

These exits have become a pattern and they need to do something about it - yesterday.

Teacher here. Most black/A-A academics are uninterested in teaching at PWIs, especially the Big 3.

'


Yes. We came from DCPS and most of the educators were black, even in our predominant white elementary and middle schools. The have no interest in switching over to private schools.

why?

Because many, if not most, of them went into teaching based on their desire to challenge and end systemic racism. Private schools have that built in, given the intersection of socioeconomic class and race in this country.

I can't follow that at all. you're saying that is the reason why Black teachers are leaving privates to go to publics?

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you've lost me too. are you saying that privates like NCS are so racist that Black teachers have given up hope, or are you saying that they have solved all their racism problems so the anti-racists are no longer needed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reined in DEI how? I beg to differ, and an URM at the school I’m quite happy at the commitment. After all they turned down funds from a donor who wanted to restrict use of money to anything but DEI. Racist much there are you?

Glad NCS is committed and hope they think about how and why black educators keep leaving their school without resorting to the usual NCS excuses.

These exits have become a pattern and they need to do something about it - yesterday.

Teacher here. Most black/A-A academics are uninterested in teaching at PWIs, especially the Big 3.

'


Yes. We came from DCPS and most of the educators were black, even in our predominant white elementary and middle schools. The have no interest in switching over to private schools.

why?

Because many, if not most, of them went into teaching based on their desire to challenge and end systemic racism. Private schools have that built in, given the intersection of socioeconomic class and race in this country.

Privates have what built in?

[Anonymous]

There’s a bus stop near the cathedral lawn which likely increases foot traffic through there too. It’s an open campus, so there’s probably some risk which is partially mitigated by security, scheduling, teacher supervision etc. If it was a major issue, they wouldn’t let the children play there, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reined in DEI how? I beg to differ, and an URM at the school I’m quite happy at the commitment. After all they turned down funds from a donor who wanted to restrict use of money to anything but DEI. Racist much there are you?

Glad NCS is committed and hope they think about how and why black educators keep leaving their school without resorting to the usual NCS excuses.

These exits have become a pattern and they need to do something about it - yesterday.

Teacher here. Most black/A-A academics are uninterested in teaching at PWIs, especially the Big 3.

'


Yes. We came from DCPS and most of the educators were black, even in our predominant white elementary and middle schools. The have no interest in switching over to private schools.

why?

Because many, if not most, of them went into teaching based on their desire to challenge and end systemic racism. Private schools have that built in, given the intersection of socioeconomic class and race in this country.

I don’t think many teachers (black or not) go into education desiring to challenge and end systemic racism.

My opinion: Teachers generally are leaving education due to unreasonable parent expectations, lack of support from administrators, and decreased focus from students. The parent piece and the administrative support piece can be particularly troublesome in some private schools. Unfortunately, word travels.