Anyone following the viral Harvard University *Extension School* controversy?

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds as though Harvard University is the one running the grift here, if one buys your assumption (which is probably incorrect) that their online programs are not legitimate.

The programs have been around forever and potential employers can easily verify if the degree is from Harvard Extension. They aren’t just online. They are legitimate.

Or one can simply list it correctly on their resume rather than being dishonest and trying to rep that they attended either the Kennedy School or did an MA in Government Studies in the Yard.

You have seen a copy of his resume? Where was this?

When interviewers describe him as having a government degree from Harvard, they had to have gotten the info from somewhere. It's either the resume or Rufo himself.

He knew exactly what he was doing with his weasel words. And the fact this was in 2022 is hilarious. This wasn’t when he was 23 years old, the guy is a middle aged dad in Washington state.

Now you're just splitting hairs.

How is that splitting hairs? He was awarded a degree from Harvard Extension School, not Harvard University.

Founded in 1910, we are one of the 12 degree-granting Harvard schools.
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We are a fully accredited Harvard school. Our degrees and certificates are adorned with the Harvard University insignia. They carry the weight of that lineage. Our graduates walk at University Commencement and become members of the Harvard Alumni Association.

https://extension.harvard.edu/about/#:~:text=We%20are%20a%20fully%20accredited,of%20the%20Harvard%20Alumni%20Association.

It is, in fact, Harvard.

https://extension.harvard.edu/registration-admissions/for-students/degree-candidate-academic-opportunities/participate-in-commencement/

Degree Name

The following degrees are awarded by the Faculty of Arts and Sciences (FAS), Harvard University:

Bachelor of Liberal Arts in Extension Studies cum laude or Bachelor of Liberal Arts in Extension Studies
cumulative GPA, area of concentration, field of study, minors, certificates, prizes, and academic awards are displayed on your Harvard transcript.
Master of Liberal Arts in Extension Studies
all FAS master’s degree diplomas are printed in Latin and fields are not displayed. Fields of study, cumulative GPAs, certificates, prizes, and academic awards appear on your Harvard transcript.

On your résumé, the degree name may be listed as either:

Bachelor [or Master] of Liberal Arts, Harvard University Extension School.
Include field of study, minor, and degree honors when applicable.
Bachelor [or Master] of Liberal Arts, Extension Studies, Harvard University.
Include field of study, minor, and degree honors when applicable.

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Rufo got a master's degree in Extension Studies, not Government. He wants a degree in Government, then he needs to apply to Harvard's Department of Government, Graduate Studies and where, if successful, obtain a degree.

Extension school is a type of program. His degree was in government.

This is an excerpt from a prior post, which was clearly copied and pasted from the Harvard website:

Fields of study, cumulative GPAs, certificates, prizes, and academic awards appear on your Harvard transcript.

It's a degree in Extension Studies. If the degree was from one of any of the OTHER schools at Harvard, then it would be a, for example, BA, Master's in Public Heath, Master's in Business Administration. But if your degree is from the Extension School, then it is a degree in...Extension Studies.

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Anonymous wrote:I remember Danny Boice liked to tell everyone (including the press) that he had gone to Harvard when he had only taken some certification type course that you just have to sign up to take (not sure if that is an extension school course, but it's not Harvard College).

He's serving 8 years in prison now for fraud.

Oh, so he mispresented his Harvard experience just like you're misrepresenting what he went to prison for?

“Boice pleaded guilty last year to defrauding investors and diverting some of the money Trustify raised to support his lifestyle.”
https://www.washingtonian.com/2021/03/26/trustify-founder-gets-eight-year-sentence-for-fraud/

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We know he took the back door. He knows it. Harvard Lite.

Pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:We know he took the back door. He knows it. Harvard Lite.

Pathetic.

Harvard is selling out, that's what's pathetic. Cheapening their own brand.

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Anonymous wrote:We know he took the back door. He knows it. Harvard Lite.

Pathetic.

Harvard is selling out, that's what's pathetic. Cheapening their own brand.

The extension school was founded in 1910.

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Anonymous wrote:We know he took the back door. He knows it. Harvard Lite.

Pathetic.

Harvard is selling out, that's what's pathetic. Cheapening their own brand.

The Harvard extension school has been around in some form (used to be called the Lowell Institute) since the mid 1800s and was seen as a community service--a way to provide access to continuing education for those who couldn't afford or be admitted to Harvard.

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Anonymous wrote:We know he took the back door. He knows it. Harvard Lite.

Pathetic.

Harvard is selling out, that's what's pathetic. Cheapening their own brand.

Naw. It’s the representation on his part. He knows he didn’t do the real Harvard. He did Harvard Lite. That’s fine. Nothing wrong with that. Just don’t represent it like you did the full Harvard.

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Anonymous wrote:We know he took the back door. He knows it. Harvard Lite.

Pathetic.

Harvard is selling out, that's what's pathetic. Cheapening their own brand.

The Harvard extension school has been around in some form (used to be called the Lowell Institute) since the mid 1800s and was seen as a community service--a way to provide access to continuing education for those who couldn't afford or be admitted to Harvard.

A lot of schools have these programs. They are nothing new. The schools are happy to take the money and give out the degrees and certificates. But it's always funny, and a bit lame, when people buy the sweatshirts and act like proud alumni when sometimes they never set foot on campus. But that also doesn't make it a lie or misrepresentation. If the schools were worried about the association they would do something about it. The outrage about Rufo is weird.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We know he took the back door. He knows it. Harvard Lite.

Pathetic.

Harvard is selling out, that's what's pathetic. Cheapening their own brand.

Naw. It’s the representation on his part. He knows he didn’t do the real Harvard. He did Harvard Lite. That’s fine. Nothing wrong with that. Just don’t represent it like you did the full Harvard.

Look if you know people like this you can figure out with a few questions what kind of program they actually did. Then you know what they know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We know he took the back door. He knows it. Harvard Lite.

Pathetic.

Harvard is selling out, that's what's pathetic. Cheapening their own brand.

The Harvard extension school has been around in some form (used to be called the Lowell Institute) since the mid 1800s and was seen as a community service--a way to provide access to continuing education for those who couldn't afford or be admitted to Harvard.

A lot of schools have these programs. They are nothing new. The schools are happy to take the money and give out the degrees and certificates. But it's always funny, and a bit lame, when people buy the sweatshirts and act like proud alumni when sometimes they never set foot on campus. But that also doesn't make it a lie or misrepresentation. If the schools were worried about the association they would do something about it. The outrage about Rufo is weird.

Don't think there would be much outrage if he himself didn't traffic in it. He opened himself up to this scrutiny by going after someone he saw as dishonest, etc. By doing so, folks were, in turn, going to investigate him. That's how journalism works. This wouldn't be a story if he hadn't been disingenuous about his graduate degree.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:We know he took the back door. He knows it. Harvard Lite.

Pathetic.

Harvard is selling out, that's what's pathetic. Cheapening their own brand.

Naw. It’s the representation on his part. He knows he didn’t do the real Harvard. He did Harvard Lite. That’s fine. Nothing wrong with that. Just don’t represent it like you did the full Harvard.

Look if you know people like this you can figure out with a few questions what kind of program they actually did. Then you know what they know.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We know he took the back door. He knows it. Harvard Lite.

Pathetic.

Harvard is selling out, that's what's pathetic. Cheapening their own brand.

Naw. It’s the representation on his part. He knows he didn’t do the real Harvard. He did Harvard Lite. That’s fine. Nothing wrong with that. Just don’t represent it like you did the full Harvard.

Look if you know people like this you can figure out with a few questions what kind of program they actually did. Then you know what they know.

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What's not understood? If you know people who say they went to Harvard and you ask what they studied, you will find out what program. If you think a degree from the extension school is "Harvard Lite" then you can sneer at them that it wasn't "the full Harvard." It's not a secret. I know people who have done these courses and they don't try to pretend it's anything else but they do say then went to Harvard (even if it was all online).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We know he took the back door. He knows it. Harvard Lite.

Pathetic.

Harvard is selling out, that's what's pathetic. Cheapening their own brand.

Naw. It’s the representation on his part. He knows he didn’t do the real Harvard. He did Harvard Lite. That’s fine. Nothing wrong with that. Just don’t represent it like you did the full Harvard.

Look if you know people like this you can figure out with a few questions what kind of program they actually did. Then you know what they know.

???

What's not understood? If you know people who say they went to Harvard and you ask what they studied, you will find out what program. If you think a degree from the extension school is "Harvard Lite" then you can sneer at them that it wasn't "the full Harvard." It's not a secret. I know people who have done these courses and they don't try to pretend it's anything else but they do say then went to Harvard (even if it was all online).

I can't imagine saying "I went to Harvard" if my degree was from the extension school. Look, the real sure way to know that someone went to Harvard is if they tell you they went to school in Boston.

Maybe I just hold myself to higher standards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We know he took the back door. He knows it. Harvard Lite.

Pathetic.

Harvard is selling out, that's what's pathetic. Cheapening their own brand.

Naw. It’s the representation on his part. He knows he didn’t do the real Harvard. He did Harvard Lite. That’s fine. Nothing wrong with that. Just don’t represent it like you did the full Harvard.

Look if you know people like this you can figure out with a few questions what kind of program they actually did. Then you know what they know.

???

What's not understood? If you know people who say they went to Harvard and you ask what they studied, you will find out what program. If you think a degree from the extension school is "Harvard Lite" then you can sneer at them that it wasn't "the full Harvard." It's not a secret. I know people who have done these courses and they don't try to pretend it's anything else but they do say then went to Harvard (even if it was all online).

I can't imagine saying "I went to Harvard" if my degree was from the extension school. Look, the real sure way to know that someone went to Harvard is if they tell you they went to school in Boston.

Maybe I just hold myself to higher standards.

If they say Boston, they didn't go to Harvard. IYKYK.

(The answer is Cambridge.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We know he took the back door. He knows it. Harvard Lite.

Pathetic.

Harvard is selling out, that's what's pathetic. Cheapening their own brand.

Naw. It’s the representation on his part. He knows he didn’t do the real Harvard. He did Harvard Lite. That’s fine. Nothing wrong with that. Just don’t represent it like you did the full Harvard.

Look if you know people like this you can figure out with a few questions what kind of program they actually did. Then you know what they know.

???

What's not understood? If you know people who say they went to Harvard and you ask what they studied, you will find out what program. If you think a degree from the extension school is "Harvard Lite" then you can sneer at them that it wasn't "the full Harvard." It's not a secret. I know people who have done these courses and they don't try to pretend it's anything else but they do say then went to Harvard (even if it was all online).

I can't imagine saying "I went to Harvard" if my degree was from the extension school. Look, the real sure way to know that someone went to Harvard is if they tell you they went to school in Boston.

Maybe I just hold myself to higher standards.

If they say Boston, they didn't go to Harvard. IYKYK.

(The answer is Cambridge.)

Nope.