Anyone following the viral Harvard University *Extension School* controversy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sounds as though Harvard University is the one running the grift here, if one buys your assumption (which is probably incorrect) that their online programs are not legitimate.

Harvard is very clear about how graduates of the extension school should talk about it. It's online and in the open. So, not a grift.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds as though Harvard University is the one running the grift here, if one buys your assumption (which is probably incorrect) that their online programs are not legitimate.

Harvard is very clear about how graduates of the extension school should talk about it. It's online and in the open. So, not a grift.

They go on and on about how it is Harvard. The only distinction is the “official” name. Master of Liberal Arts. And the “official” abbreviation.

It’s entirely fair to call it “a master’s degree from Harvard”

Because that’s what it is.

If you don’t like it, you should take it up with Harvard. As well as all the other elite schools with low admissions rates who offer similar programs and degrees. If you feel this dilutes the prestige of these schools, take it up with the schools themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:We know he took the back door. He knows it. Harvard Lite.

Pathetic.

Harvard is selling out, that's what's pathetic. Cheapening their own brand.

Naw. It’s the representation on his part. He knows he didn’t do the real Harvard. He did Harvard Lite. That’s fine. Nothing wrong with that. Just don’t represent it like you did the full Harvard.

Look if you know people like this you can figure out with a few questions what kind of program they actually did. Then you know what they know.

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What's not understood? If you know people who say they went to Harvard and you ask what they studied, you will find out what program. If you think a degree from the extension school is "Harvard Lite" then you can sneer at them that it wasn't "the full Harvard." It's not a secret. I know people who have done these courses and they don't try to pretend it's anything else but they do say then went to Harvard (even if it was all online).

I can't imagine saying "I went to Harvard" if my degree was from the extension school. Look, the real sure way to know that someone went to Harvard is if they tell you they went to school in Boston.

Maybe I just hold myself to higher standards.

If they say Boston, they didn't go to Harvard. IYKYK.

(The answer is Cambridge.)

I do know. And the locales are often interchangeable. Because IYKYK.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sounds as though Harvard University is the one running the grift here, if one buys your assumption (which is probably incorrect) that their online programs are not legitimate.

+100

Harvard seems like the grifter here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We know he took the back door. He knows it. Harvard Lite.

Pathetic.

Harvard is selling out, that's what's pathetic. Cheapening their own brand.

Naw. It’s the representation on his part. He knows he didn’t do the real Harvard. He did Harvard Lite. That’s fine. Nothing wrong with that. Just don’t represent it like you did the full Harvard.

Look if you know people like this you can figure out with a few questions what kind of program they actually did. Then you know what they know.

???

What's not understood? If you know people who say they went to Harvard and you ask what they studied, you will find out what program. If you think a degree from the extension school is "Harvard Lite" then you can sneer at them that it wasn't "the full Harvard." It's not a secret. I know people who have done these courses and they don't try to pretend it's anything else but they do say then went to Harvard (even if it was all online).

I can't imagine saying "I went to Harvard" if my degree was from the extension school. Look, the real sure way to know that someone went to Harvard is if they tell you they went to school in Boston.

Maybe I just hold myself to higher standards.

If they say Boston, they didn't go to Harvard. IYKYK.

You don't know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We know he took the back door. He knows it. Harvard Lite.

Pathetic.

Harvard is selling out, that's what's pathetic. Cheapening their own brand.

Naw. It’s the representation on his part. He knows he didn’t do the real Harvard. He did Harvard Lite. That’s fine. Nothing wrong with that. Just don’t represent it like you did the full Harvard.

Look if you know people like this you can figure out with a few questions what kind of program they actually did. Then you know what they know.

???

What's not understood? If you know people who say they went to Harvard and you ask what they studied, you will find out what program. If you think a degree from the extension school is "Harvard Lite" then you can sneer at them that it wasn't "the full Harvard." It's not a secret. I know people who have done these courses and they don't try to pretend it's anything else but they do say then went to Harvard (even if it was all online).

I can't imagine saying "I went to Harvard" if my degree was from the extension school. Look, the real sure way to know that someone went to Harvard is if they tell you they went to school in Boston.

Maybe I just hold myself to higher standards.

The people I know with these degrees have many degrees from lots of schools. They just decide to further learning in an area of interest, but they already have what you would consider full degrees from prestigious universities. They have law degrees, MBAs, etc but they wanted another notch in their belt, it's not really a big deal since it's not the only degree they have.

[Anonymous]

Harvard is the absolute grift - they monetize the name to shake down all comers in the Extension school, while they keep the size of the "regular" student body far below what their endowment could afford, ensuring that demand will always far outstrip supply and that crazy parents will sell their kidney to get Larla into "real" Harvard. And they get tax breaks as an educational institution even though Harvard's primary raison d'etre is building its endowment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Harvard is the absolute grift - they monetize the name to shake down all comers in the Extension school, while they keep the size of the "regular" student body far below what their endowment could afford, ensuring that demand will always far outstrip supply and that crazy parents will sell their kidney to get Larla into "real" Harvard. And they get tax breaks as an educational institution even though Harvard's primary raison d'etre is building its endowment.

The Extension School has been around for 100+ years and its predecessor with roots into the 1800s.

[Anonymous]

Extension schools are not new, and a far number of elite colleges- including those in the Ivy League - have them. They do exactly what they propose in their name: extend the reach of the school to non-traditional students. Often they offer the same classes and curriculum as their parent programs, albeit in an online and asynchronous format. They are legit educational offerings.

[Anonymous]

It's been a cash grab for years. If the goal was to make college accessible, there'd be scholarships.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tyra Banks got one of these degrees in 2012.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2194826/Harvard-Business-School-graduate-Tyra-Banks-critics-qualification-short-course-certificate-instead-degree.html

It was a nine week certification class! I can’t believe they went on stage to accept their piece of paper showing the completed the short course. I’ve done certification courses a whole lot longer than that and some were made up of courses with college credit. We might have gotten a paper in the mail but that would be it.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds as though Harvard University is the one running the grift here, if one buys your assumption (which is probably incorrect) that their online programs are not legitimate.

+1000

DYK how many places run these programs? Columbia has one in general studies, believe same @ Penn. So many schools have them. Heck, does USDA still run an extension school? That said, they are extension programs.

Harvard’s extension school is over 100 years old and was created for the working people in Boston who couldn’t go to college during the day. They are all taught by Harvard professors

plenty of universities have these programs. Yale has a physicians assistant Program at night separate from the school working with themYale Medical school. Online classes and on-site requirements.

Columbia has night school classes in certain degrees where students go at their own pace. Stanford,Penn, Duke, Brown, Northwestern and many many more.

What is wrong with catering to non-traditional students who might want a change in career or to get a better job but can’t spend all day at school with 18 year olds.

Universities are in the business of education. It’s exactly what they’re doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We know he took the back door. He knows it. Harvard Lite.

Pathetic.

Harvard is selling out, that's what's pathetic. Cheapening their own brand.

Naw. It’s the representation on his part. He knows he didn’t do the real Harvard. He did Harvard Lite. That’s fine. Nothing wrong with that. Just don’t represent it like you did the full Harvard.

Look if you know people like this you can figure out with a few questions what kind of program they actually did. Then you know what they know.

???

What's not understood? If you know people who say they went to Harvard and you ask what they studied, you will find out what program. If you think a degree from the extension school is "Harvard Lite" then you can sneer at them that it wasn't "the full Harvard." It's not a secret. I know people who have done these courses and they don't try to pretend it's anything else but they do say then went to Harvard (even if it was all online).

I can't imagine saying "I went to Harvard" if my degree was from the extension school. Look, the real sure way to know that someone went to Harvard is if they tell you they went to school in Boston.

Maybe I just hold myself to higher standards.

Probably most say “I went to Harvard Extension School where I got a BA in liberal studies”. Would that be ok?

[Anonymous]

The only people I know who are impressed with attending Harvard Extension school are, ironically, the very same people who mock intellectualism and “liberal academia.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds as though Harvard University is the one running the grift here, if one buys your assumption (which is probably incorrect) that their online programs are not legitimate.

+1000

DYK how many places run these programs? Columbia has one in general studies, believe same @ Penn. So many schools have them. Heck, does USDA still run an extension school? That said, they are extension programs.

Harvard’s extension school is over 100 years old and was created for the working people in Boston who couldn’t go to college during the day. They are all taught by Harvard professors

plenty of universities have these programs. Yale has a physicians assistant Program at night separate from the school working with themYale Medical school. Online classes and on-site requirements.

Columbia has night school classes in certain degrees where students go at their own pace. Stanford,Penn, Duke, Brown, Northwestern and many many more.

What is wrong with catering to non-traditional students who might want a change in career or to get a better job but can’t spend all day at school with 18 year olds.

Universities are in the business of education. It’s exactly what they’re doing.

There are no scholarships... It's a cash grab