NoVA 2023 Elections: Who are you/your neighbors voting for?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Dem in Fairfax and seeing how the Dems in PWC have handled the data center issue is disappointing to say the least. I love hiking at Manassas Battlefield with my dogs and I go once a week if the weather cooperates with me. If you look at the park map there are so many areas that get overlooked and you can practically have the park to yourself.

Proposing to build massive ugly, soulless boxes that make tons of noise right next to that is so insane. I mean its straight out of the evil Republican playbook yet D's are the ones pushing it. It's so confusing to me. I don't blame people for turning to R's for the solution.

They are shooting themselves in the foot over a very stupid issue. They should of realized it's unpopular and looked for other ways to increase tax revenue. Don't run for these positions if you're not willing to take on challenges and get creative.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how Rs are all anti-regulation/anti-environmental controls right up until it lands in their county.

Very clear example of NIMBY.

I love how Ds are all pro-regulation/pro-environmental controls until big corporations propose building data centers on environmentally sensitive land.

It's so funny how it is in Prince William currently, the Rs are against the corporations and land development while the Ds are pro land development, pro corporate, and for environmental destruction. The Sierra Club and many other left-leaning environmental groups came out against the proposal yet Prince William Ds insist on them. So weird.

I am very pro-regulation/environment protections.

I said earlier that we should implement strict zoning regulations/requirements to alleviate issues with data centers. Maybe require businesses who exceed a power threshold to use renewable energy sources, regulations to protect wetlands/waterways, incentives for rural conservation zoning, etc.

These issues should really addressed at the state level since the impacts are so broad. Give your buddy, Youngkin, a call.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how Rs are all anti-regulation/anti-environmental controls right up until it lands in their county.

Very clear example of NIMBY.

I love how Ds are all pro-regulation/pro-environmental controls until big corporations propose building data centers on environmentally sensitive land.

It's so funny how it is in Prince William currently, the Rs are against the corporations and land development while the Ds are pro land development, pro corporate, and for environmental destruction. The Sierra Club and many other left-leaning environmental groups came out against the proposal yet Prince William Ds insist on them. So weird.

I am very pro-regulation/environment protections.

I said earlier that we should implement strict zoning regulations/requirements to alleviate issues with data centers. Maybe require businesses who exceed a power threshold to use renewable energy sources, regulations to protect wetlands/waterways, incentives for rural conservation zoning, etc.

These issues should really addressed at the state level since the impacts are so broad. Give your buddy, Youngkin, a call.

Eh, or it could still be handled at the county level and we vote for the candidates that are against letting us become the next Loudoun County.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how Rs are all anti-regulation/anti-environmental controls right up until it lands in their county.

Very clear example of NIMBY.

I love how Ds are all pro-regulation/pro-environmental controls until big corporations propose building data centers on environmentally sensitive land.

It's so funny how it is in Prince William currently, the Rs are against the corporations and land development while the Ds are pro land development, pro corporate, and for environmental destruction. The Sierra Club and many other left-leaning environmental groups came out against the proposal yet Prince William Ds insist on them. So weird.

I am very pro-regulation/environment protections.

I said earlier that we should implement strict zoning regulations/requirements to alleviate issues with data centers. Maybe require businesses who exceed a power threshold to use renewable energy sources, regulations to protect wetlands/waterways, incentives for rural conservation zoning, etc.

These issues should really addressed at the state level since the impacts are so broad. Give your buddy, Youngkin, a call.

Eh, or it could still be handled at the county level and we vote for the candidates that are against letting us become the next Loudoun County.

The county should definitely work on zoning/regulations/protections. But the problem is bigger than any one county.

Well, at least to those of us who care about more than a backyard view.

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Anonymous wrote:My predictions:

Fairfax County:
Dems maintain supermajority on the board, although they lose 1-3 seats on the school board.

Stella Pekarsky underperforms but still wins somewhat easily. She has SB baggage weighing her down. I think Saundra Davis and Debra Tisler will be the seats R's gain on the SB. MAYBE Dranesville surprises us by electing an R SB member or board member, highly doubt it though.

Braddock school board seat is the sleeper pick for R's, I really doubt it though. Sizemore was a somewhat more reasonable person on the school board but is still associated with that so I could see the R candidate overperforming.

Loudoun:
True tossup with a wide range of outcomes. R's do very well, flip the CA's office, SB, and BoS. D's do very well and hold on to everything. Legit unpredictable and no one is truly talking about it.

Prince William:
Western part of the county will be great for R's due to data center issue, eastern part will be good for D's.

You're spot on with this. Western PWC seems like suburban area in Nova that hasn't really drifted to the left that much. Wonder why that is considering it's educated and UMC.

We are in eastern Fauquier bordering western PWC, and data centers are a huge issue out here that leads many of us to vote R for our local officials. We are educated and UMC, and generally have considered ourselves to be moderate. Many of us that moved out here from close in were never left enough to begin with to pull this area appreciably to the left. It remains centrist and frankly that’s part of why we like it here.

While I do think there should be strict zoning/environments restrictions, I don't think we should prevent more data centers from being built. They provide a huge source of revenue for Loudoun (and have been a catalyst for growth). Who do you think is paying for all of the new schools/infrastructure that you are using?

Out here the idea of becoming the next Loudoun is part of what is putting people off on the data centers. For many of us who live out here, we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way. We could have moved to Ashburn if that’s what we wanted. Fauquier does not have any existing data centers at this point, so they are not paying for anything currently.

The buildings that you and "many of us" live in - when were those buildings built?

When my house was built has no bearing on the data center argument, but keep digging in, you are demonstrating why Rs have a stronghold here.

When your house was built has a lot of bearing on the "we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way" thing.

It was built in the 90s, so not a new build. There is a nice mix out here of rural and pockets of more suburban like housing developments. Yes, there has obviously been development out here since the 80s (I have friends that are lifelong residents and talk about what it used to be like when they grew up). I think they’ve done a good job out here of balancing the interests of development and keeping the rural qualities of the area, but data centers upset that balance.

Oh, ok. You live in the exurbs. Formerly rural, now suburban.

Vienna and Reston are suburban, this area would in no way be confused with those places.

That doesn't mean your area isn't also suburban.

DCUM: OMG anything outside of Fairfax in VA is the sticks!
Also DCUM when it suits a political argument: The areas outside of Fairfax are the suburbs.

They're not mutually exclusive categories.

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Anonymous wrote:My predictions:

Fairfax County:
Dems maintain supermajority on the board, although they lose 1-3 seats on the school board.

Stella Pekarsky underperforms but still wins somewhat easily. She has SB baggage weighing her down. I think Saundra Davis and Debra Tisler will be the seats R's gain on the SB. MAYBE Dranesville surprises us by electing an R SB member or board member, highly doubt it though.

Braddock school board seat is the sleeper pick for R's, I really doubt it though. Sizemore was a somewhat more reasonable person on the school board but is still associated with that so I could see the R candidate overperforming.

Loudoun:
True tossup with a wide range of outcomes. R's do very well, flip the CA's office, SB, and BoS. D's do very well and hold on to everything. Legit unpredictable and no one is truly talking about it.

Prince William:
Western part of the county will be great for R's due to data center issue, eastern part will be good for D's.

You're spot on with this. Western PWC seems like suburban area in Nova that hasn't really drifted to the left that much. Wonder why that is considering it's educated and UMC.

We are in eastern Fauquier bordering western PWC, and data centers are a huge issue out here that leads many of us to vote R for our local officials. We are educated and UMC, and generally have considered ourselves to be moderate. Many of us that moved out here from close in were never left enough to begin with to pull this area appreciably to the left. It remains centrist and frankly that’s part of why we like it here.

While I do think there should be strict zoning/environments restrictions, I don't think we should prevent more data centers from being built. They provide a huge source of revenue for Loudoun (and have been a catalyst for growth). Who do you think is paying for all of the new schools/infrastructure that you are using?

Out here the idea of becoming the next Loudoun is part of what is putting people off on the data centers. For many of us who live out here, we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way. We could have moved to Ashburn if that’s what we wanted. Fauquier does not have any existing data centers at this point, so they are not paying for anything currently.

The buildings that you and "many of us" live in - when were those buildings built?

When my house was built has no bearing on the data center argument, but keep digging in, you are demonstrating why Rs have a stronghold here.

When your house was built has a lot of bearing on the "we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way" thing.

It was built in the 90s, so not a new build. There is a nice mix out here of rural and pockets of more suburban like housing developments. Yes, there has obviously been development out here since the 80s (I have friends that are lifelong residents and talk about what it used to be like when they grew up). I think they’ve done a good job out here of balancing the interests of development and keeping the rural qualities of the area, but data centers upset that balance.

Oh, ok. You live in the exurbs. Formerly rural, now suburban.

Vienna and Reston are suburban, this area would in no way be confused with those places.

That doesn't mean your area isn't also suburban.

DCUM: OMG anything outside of Fairfax in VA is the sticks!
Also DCUM when it suits a political argument: The areas outside of Fairfax are the suburbs.

They're not mutually exclusive categories.

Of course not, when it suits your purpose.

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Anonymous wrote:My predictions:

Fairfax County:
Dems maintain supermajority on the board, although they lose 1-3 seats on the school board.

Stella Pekarsky underperforms but still wins somewhat easily. She has SB baggage weighing her down. I think Saundra Davis and Debra Tisler will be the seats R's gain on the SB. MAYBE Dranesville surprises us by electing an R SB member or board member, highly doubt it though.

Braddock school board seat is the sleeper pick for R's, I really doubt it though. Sizemore was a somewhat more reasonable person on the school board but is still associated with that so I could see the R candidate overperforming.

Loudoun:
True tossup with a wide range of outcomes. R's do very well, flip the CA's office, SB, and BoS. D's do very well and hold on to everything. Legit unpredictable and no one is truly talking about it.

Prince William:
Western part of the county will be great for R's due to data center issue, eastern part will be good for D's.

You're spot on with this. Western PWC seems like suburban area in Nova that hasn't really drifted to the left that much. Wonder why that is considering it's educated and UMC.

We are in eastern Fauquier bordering western PWC, and data centers are a huge issue out here that leads many of us to vote R for our local officials. We are educated and UMC, and generally have considered ourselves to be moderate. Many of us that moved out here from close in were never left enough to begin with to pull this area appreciably to the left. It remains centrist and frankly that’s part of why we like it here.

While I do think there should be strict zoning/environments restrictions, I don't think we should prevent more data centers from being built. They provide a huge source of revenue for Loudoun (and have been a catalyst for growth). Who do you think is paying for all of the new schools/infrastructure that you are using?

Out here the idea of becoming the next Loudoun is part of what is putting people off on the data centers. For many of us who live out here, we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way. We could have moved to Ashburn if that’s what we wanted. Fauquier does not have any existing data centers at this point, so they are not paying for anything currently.

The buildings that you and "many of us" live in - when were those buildings built?

When my house was built has no bearing on the data center argument, but keep digging in, you are demonstrating why Rs have a stronghold here.

When your house was built has a lot of bearing on the "we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way" thing.

It was built in the 90s, so not a new build. There is a nice mix out here of rural and pockets of more suburban like housing developments. Yes, there has obviously been development out here since the 80s (I have friends that are lifelong residents and talk about what it used to be like when they grew up). I think they’ve done a good job out here of balancing the interests of development and keeping the rural qualities of the area, but data centers upset that balance.

Oh, ok. You live in the exurbs. Formerly rural, now suburban.

Vienna and Reston are suburban, this area would in no way be confused with those places.

That doesn't mean your area isn't also suburban.

DCUM: OMG anything outside of Fairfax in VA is the sticks!
Also DCUM when it suits a political argument: The areas outside of Fairfax are the suburbs.

They're not mutually exclusive categories.

Of course not, when it suits your purpose.

They are suburbs that are far out. You've really never heard of "exurbs"?

But I guess if you want to play victim, go ahead.

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Anonymous wrote:My predictions:

Fairfax County:
Dems maintain supermajority on the board, although they lose 1-3 seats on the school board.

Stella Pekarsky underperforms but still wins somewhat easily. She has SB baggage weighing her down. I think Saundra Davis and Debra Tisler will be the seats R's gain on the SB. MAYBE Dranesville surprises us by electing an R SB member or board member, highly doubt it though.

Braddock school board seat is the sleeper pick for R's, I really doubt it though. Sizemore was a somewhat more reasonable person on the school board but is still associated with that so I could see the R candidate overperforming.

Loudoun:
True tossup with a wide range of outcomes. R's do very well, flip the CA's office, SB, and BoS. D's do very well and hold on to everything. Legit unpredictable and no one is truly talking about it.

Prince William:
Western part of the county will be great for R's due to data center issue, eastern part will be good for D's.

You're spot on with this. Western PWC seems like suburban area in Nova that hasn't really drifted to the left that much. Wonder why that is considering it's educated and UMC.

We are in eastern Fauquier bordering western PWC, and data centers are a huge issue out here that leads many of us to vote R for our local officials. We are educated and UMC, and generally have considered ourselves to be moderate. Many of us that moved out here from close in were never left enough to begin with to pull this area appreciably to the left. It remains centrist and frankly that’s part of why we like it here.

While I do think there should be strict zoning/environments restrictions, I don't think we should prevent more data centers from being built. They provide a huge source of revenue for Loudoun (and have been a catalyst for growth). Who do you think is paying for all of the new schools/infrastructure that you are using?

Out here the idea of becoming the next Loudoun is part of what is putting people off on the data centers. For many of us who live out here, we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way. We could have moved to Ashburn if that’s what we wanted. Fauquier does not have any existing data centers at this point, so they are not paying for anything currently.

The buildings that you and "many of us" live in - when were those buildings built?

When my house was built has no bearing on the data center argument, but keep digging in, you are demonstrating why Rs have a stronghold here.

When your house was built has a lot of bearing on the "we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way" thing.

It was built in the 90s, so not a new build. There is a nice mix out here of rural and pockets of more suburban like housing developments. Yes, there has obviously been development out here since the 80s (I have friends that are lifelong residents and talk about what it used to be like when they grew up). I think they’ve done a good job out here of balancing the interests of development and keeping the rural qualities of the area, but data centers upset that balance.

Oh, ok. You live in the exurbs. Formerly rural, now suburban.

Vienna and Reston are suburban, this area would in no way be confused with those places.

That doesn't mean your area isn't also suburban.

DCUM: OMG anything outside of Fairfax in VA is the sticks!
Also DCUM when it suits a political argument: The areas outside of Fairfax are the suburbs.

They're not mutually exclusive categories.

Of course not, when it suits your purpose.

They are suburbs that are far out. You've really never heard of "exurbs"?

But I guess if you want to play victim, go ahead.

I’m not exactly sure how anyone is playing victim. I love it out here, and wouldn’t move back closer in for any amount of money. But don’t get it twisted, it’s same exurbs that everyone on here takes great pains most of the time to disdainfully point out are rural. You just don’t like that the Dems position on data centers is one that costs them votes.

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Anonymous wrote:My predictions:

Fairfax County:
Dems maintain supermajority on the board, although they lose 1-3 seats on the school board.

Stella Pekarsky underperforms but still wins somewhat easily. She has SB baggage weighing her down. I think Saundra Davis and Debra Tisler will be the seats R's gain on the SB. MAYBE Dranesville surprises us by electing an R SB member or board member, highly doubt it though.

Braddock school board seat is the sleeper pick for R's, I really doubt it though. Sizemore was a somewhat more reasonable person on the school board but is still associated with that so I could see the R candidate overperforming.

Loudoun:
True tossup with a wide range of outcomes. R's do very well, flip the CA's office, SB, and BoS. D's do very well and hold on to everything. Legit unpredictable and no one is truly talking about it.

Prince William:
Western part of the county will be great for R's due to data center issue, eastern part will be good for D's.

You're spot on with this. Western PWC seems like suburban area in Nova that hasn't really drifted to the left that much. Wonder why that is considering it's educated and UMC.

We are in eastern Fauquier bordering western PWC, and data centers are a huge issue out here that leads many of us to vote R for our local officials. We are educated and UMC, and generally have considered ourselves to be moderate. Many of us that moved out here from close in were never left enough to begin with to pull this area appreciably to the left. It remains centrist and frankly that’s part of why we like it here.

While I do think there should be strict zoning/environments restrictions, I don't think we should prevent more data centers from being built. They provide a huge source of revenue for Loudoun (and have been a catalyst for growth). Who do you think is paying for all of the new schools/infrastructure that you are using?

Out here the idea of becoming the next Loudoun is part of what is putting people off on the data centers. For many of us who live out here, we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way. We could have moved to Ashburn if that’s what we wanted. Fauquier does not have any existing data centers at this point, so they are not paying for anything currently.

The buildings that you and "many of us" live in - when were those buildings built?

When my house was built has no bearing on the data center argument, but keep digging in, you are demonstrating why Rs have a stronghold here.

When your house was built has a lot of bearing on the "we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way" thing.

It was built in the 90s, so not a new build. There is a nice mix out here of rural and pockets of more suburban like housing developments. Yes, there has obviously been development out here since the 80s (I have friends that are lifelong residents and talk about what it used to be like when they grew up). I think they’ve done a good job out here of balancing the interests of development and keeping the rural qualities of the area, but data centers upset that balance.

Oh, ok. You live in the exurbs. Formerly rural, now suburban.

Vienna and Reston are suburban, this area would in no way be confused with those places.

That doesn't mean your area isn't also suburban.

DCUM: OMG anything outside of Fairfax in VA is the sticks!
Also DCUM when it suits a political argument: The areas outside of Fairfax are the suburbs.

They're not mutually exclusive categories.

Of course not, when it suits your purpose.

They are suburbs that are far out. You've really never heard of "exurbs"?

But I guess if you want to play victim, go ahead.

I’m not exactly sure how anyone is playing victim. I love it out here, and wouldn’t move back closer in for any amount of money. But don’t get it twisted, it’s same exurbs that everyone on here takes great pains most of the time to disdainfully point out are rural. You just don’t like that the Dems position on data centers is one that costs them votes.

Exurbs aren't rural. They're exurbs. They're suburbs in the sticks.

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Anonymous wrote:My predictions:

Fairfax County:
Dems maintain supermajority on the board, although they lose 1-3 seats on the school board.

Stella Pekarsky underperforms but still wins somewhat easily. She has SB baggage weighing her down. I think Saundra Davis and Debra Tisler will be the seats R's gain on the SB. MAYBE Dranesville surprises us by electing an R SB member or board member, highly doubt it though.

Braddock school board seat is the sleeper pick for R's, I really doubt it though. Sizemore was a somewhat more reasonable person on the school board but is still associated with that so I could see the R candidate overperforming.

Loudoun:
True tossup with a wide range of outcomes. R's do very well, flip the CA's office, SB, and BoS. D's do very well and hold on to everything. Legit unpredictable and no one is truly talking about it.

Prince William:
Western part of the county will be great for R's due to data center issue, eastern part will be good for D's.

You're spot on with this. Western PWC seems like suburban area in Nova that hasn't really drifted to the left that much. Wonder why that is considering it's educated and UMC.

We are in eastern Fauquier bordering western PWC, and data centers are a huge issue out here that leads many of us to vote R for our local officials. We are educated and UMC, and generally have considered ourselves to be moderate. Many of us that moved out here from close in were never left enough to begin with to pull this area appreciably to the left. It remains centrist and frankly that’s part of why we like it here.

While I do think there should be strict zoning/environments restrictions, I don't think we should prevent more data centers from being built. They provide a huge source of revenue for Loudoun (and have been a catalyst for growth). Who do you think is paying for all of the new schools/infrastructure that you are using?

Out here the idea of becoming the next Loudoun is part of what is putting people off on the data centers. For many of us who live out here, we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way. We could have moved to Ashburn if that’s what we wanted. Fauquier does not have any existing data centers at this point, so they are not paying for anything currently.

Loudoun’s population exploded, and it quickly became infested with absolute LWNJs. What they have done (and continue to do) to the public schools is a tragedy and a scandal.

No place wants to turn into Loudoun.

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Anonymous wrote:My predictions:

Fairfax County:
Dems maintain supermajority on the board, although they lose 1-3 seats on the school board.

Stella Pekarsky underperforms but still wins somewhat easily. She has SB baggage weighing her down. I think Saundra Davis and Debra Tisler will be the seats R's gain on the SB. MAYBE Dranesville surprises us by electing an R SB member or board member, highly doubt it though.

Braddock school board seat is the sleeper pick for R's, I really doubt it though. Sizemore was a somewhat more reasonable person on the school board but is still associated with that so I could see the R candidate overperforming.

Loudoun:
True tossup with a wide range of outcomes. R's do very well, flip the CA's office, SB, and BoS. D's do very well and hold on to everything. Legit unpredictable and no one is truly talking about it.

Prince William:
Western part of the county will be great for R's due to data center issue, eastern part will be good for D's.

You're spot on with this. Western PWC seems like suburban area in Nova that hasn't really drifted to the left that much. Wonder why that is considering it's educated and UMC.

We are in eastern Fauquier bordering western PWC, and data centers are a huge issue out here that leads many of us to vote R for our local officials. We are educated and UMC, and generally have considered ourselves to be moderate. Many of us that moved out here from close in were never left enough to begin with to pull this area appreciably to the left. It remains centrist and frankly that’s part of why we like it here.

While I do think there should be strict zoning/environments restrictions, I don't think we should prevent more data centers from being built. They provide a huge source of revenue for Loudoun (and have been a catalyst for growth). Who do you think is paying for all of the new schools/infrastructure that you are using?

Out here the idea of becoming the next Loudoun is part of what is putting people off on the data centers. For many of us who live out here, we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way. We could have moved to Ashburn if that’s what we wanted. Fauquier does not have any existing data centers at this point, so they are not paying for anything currently.

The buildings that you and "many of us" live in - when were those buildings built?

When my house was built has no bearing on the data center argument, but keep digging in, you are demonstrating why Rs have a stronghold here.

When your house was built has a lot of bearing on the "we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way" thing.

It was built in the 90s, so not a new build. There is a nice mix out here of rural and pockets of more suburban like housing developments. Yes, there has obviously been development out here since the 80s (I have friends that are lifelong residents and talk about what it used to be like when they grew up). I think they’ve done a good job out here of balancing the interests of development and keeping the rural qualities of the area, but data centers upset that balance.

Oh, ok. You live in the exurbs. Formerly rural, now suburban.

Vienna and Reston are suburban, this area would in no way be confused with those places.

That doesn't mean your area isn't also suburban.

DCUM: OMG anything outside of Fairfax in VA is the sticks!
Also DCUM when it suits a political argument: The areas outside of Fairfax are the suburbs.

They're not mutually exclusive categories.

Of course not, when it suits your purpose.

They are suburbs that are far out. You've really never heard of "exurbs"?

But I guess if you want to play victim, go ahead.

I’m not exactly sure how anyone is playing victim. I love it out here, and wouldn’t move back closer in for any amount of money. But don’t get it twisted, it’s same exurbs that everyone on here takes great pains most of the time to disdainfully point out are rural. You just don’t like that the Dems position on data centers is one that costs them votes.

Exurbs aren't rural. They're exurbs. They're suburbs in the sticks.

Thank you Karen from Fairfax for trying to educate me about where I live, which is a place I would wager you have never been.

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Anonymous wrote:My predictions:

Fairfax County:
Dems maintain supermajority on the board, although they lose 1-3 seats on the school board.

Stella Pekarsky underperforms but still wins somewhat easily. She has SB baggage weighing her down. I think Saundra Davis and Debra Tisler will be the seats R's gain on the SB. MAYBE Dranesville surprises us by electing an R SB member or board member, highly doubt it though.

Braddock school board seat is the sleeper pick for R's, I really doubt it though. Sizemore was a somewhat more reasonable person on the school board but is still associated with that so I could see the R candidate overperforming.

Loudoun:
True tossup with a wide range of outcomes. R's do very well, flip the CA's office, SB, and BoS. D's do very well and hold on to everything. Legit unpredictable and no one is truly talking about it.

Prince William:
Western part of the county will be great for R's due to data center issue, eastern part will be good for D's.

You're spot on with this. Western PWC seems like suburban area in Nova that hasn't really drifted to the left that much. Wonder why that is considering it's educated and UMC.

We are in eastern Fauquier bordering western PWC, and data centers are a huge issue out here that leads many of us to vote R for our local officials. We are educated and UMC, and generally have considered ourselves to be moderate. Many of us that moved out here from close in were never left enough to begin with to pull this area appreciably to the left. It remains centrist and frankly that’s part of why we like it here.

While I do think there should be strict zoning/environments restrictions, I don't think we should prevent more data centers from being built. They provide a huge source of revenue for Loudoun (and have been a catalyst for growth). Who do you think is paying for all of the new schools/infrastructure that you are using?

Out here the idea of becoming the next Loudoun is part of what is putting people off on the data centers. For many of us who live out here, we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way. We could have moved to Ashburn if that’s what we wanted. Fauquier does not have any existing data centers at this point, so they are not paying for anything currently.

The buildings that you and "many of us" live in - when were those buildings built?

When my house was built has no bearing on the data center argument, but keep digging in, you are demonstrating why Rs have a stronghold here.

When your house was built has a lot of bearing on the "we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way" thing.

It was built in the 90s, so not a new build. There is a nice mix out here of rural and pockets of more suburban like housing developments. Yes, there has obviously been development out here since the 80s (I have friends that are lifelong residents and talk about what it used to be like when they grew up). I think they’ve done a good job out here of balancing the interests of development and keeping the rural qualities of the area, but data centers upset that balance.

Oh, ok. You live in the exurbs. Formerly rural, now suburban.

Vienna and Reston are suburban, this area would in no way be confused with those places.

That doesn't mean your area isn't also suburban.

DCUM: OMG anything outside of Fairfax in VA is the sticks!
Also DCUM when it suits a political argument: The areas outside of Fairfax are the suburbs.

They're not mutually exclusive categories.

Of course not, when it suits your purpose.

They are suburbs that are far out. You've really never heard of "exurbs"?

But I guess if you want to play victim, go ahead.

I’m not exactly sure how anyone is playing victim. I love it out here, and wouldn’t move back closer in for any amount of money. But don’t get it twisted, it’s same exurbs that everyone on here takes great pains most of the time to disdainfully point out are rural. You just don’t like that the Dems position on data centers is one that costs them votes.

Exurbs aren't rural. They're exurbs. They're suburbs in the sticks.

Thank you Karen from Fairfax for trying to educate me about where I live, which is a place I would wager you have never been.

Is there something about your exurb that makes it unique and different from other exurbs?

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Dems outside of PWC can't believe that the data center issue is costing them votes. I voted for Weir and I typically vote Dem. Ann Wheeler was the biggest letdown. I was so excited when she won in 2019. She lives in Haymarket and also invested in a company that has proposed building next to the battlefield.

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Anonymous wrote:Dems outside of PWC can't believe that the data center issue is costing them votes. I voted for Weir and I typically vote Dem. Ann Wheeler was the biggest letdown. I was so excited when she won in 2019. She lives in Haymarket and also invested in a company that has proposed building next to the battlefield.

+1, they just don’t get it and sling insults instead.

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Anonymous wrote:My predictions:

Fairfax County:
Dems maintain supermajority on the board, although they lose 1-3 seats on the school board.

Stella Pekarsky underperforms but still wins somewhat easily. She has SB baggage weighing her down. I think Saundra Davis and Debra Tisler will be the seats R's gain on the SB. MAYBE Dranesville surprises us by electing an R SB member or board member, highly doubt it though.

Braddock school board seat is the sleeper pick for R's, I really doubt it though. Sizemore was a somewhat more reasonable person on the school board but is still associated with that so I could see the R candidate overperforming.

Loudoun:
True tossup with a wide range of outcomes. R's do very well, flip the CA's office, SB, and BoS. D's do very well and hold on to everything. Legit unpredictable and no one is truly talking about it.

Prince William:
Western part of the county will be great for R's due to data center issue, eastern part will be good for D's.

You're spot on with this. Western PWC seems like suburban area in Nova that hasn't really drifted to the left that much. Wonder why that is considering it's educated and UMC.

We are in eastern Fauquier bordering western PWC, and data centers are a huge issue out here that leads many of us to vote R for our local officials. We are educated and UMC, and generally have considered ourselves to be moderate. Many of us that moved out here from close in were never left enough to begin with to pull this area appreciably to the left. It remains centrist and frankly that’s part of why we like it here.

While I do think there should be strict zoning/environments restrictions, I don't think we should prevent more data centers from being built. They provide a huge source of revenue for Loudoun (and have been a catalyst for growth). Who do you think is paying for all of the new schools/infrastructure that you are using?

Out here the idea of becoming the next Loudoun is part of what is putting people off on the data centers. For many of us who live out here, we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way. We could have moved to Ashburn if that’s what we wanted. Fauquier does not have any existing data centers at this point, so they are not paying for anything currently.

The buildings that you and "many of us" live in - when were those buildings built?

When my house was built has no bearing on the data center argument, but keep digging in, you are demonstrating why Rs have a stronghold here.

When your house was built has a lot of bearing on the "we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way" thing.

It was built in the 90s, so not a new build. There is a nice mix out here of rural and pockets of more suburban like housing developments. Yes, there has obviously been development out here since the 80s (I have friends that are lifelong residents and talk about what it used to be like when they grew up). I think they’ve done a good job out here of balancing the interests of development and keeping the rural qualities of the area, but data centers upset that balance.

Oh, ok. You live in the exurbs. Formerly rural, now suburban.

Vienna and Reston are suburban, this area would in no way be confused with those places.

That doesn't mean your area isn't also suburban.

DCUM: OMG anything outside of Fairfax in VA is the sticks!
Also DCUM when it suits a political argument: The areas outside of Fairfax are the suburbs.

They're not mutually exclusive categories.

Of course not, when it suits your purpose.

They are suburbs that are far out. You've really never heard of "exurbs"?

But I guess if you want to play victim, go ahead.

I’m not exactly sure how anyone is playing victim. I love it out here, and wouldn’t move back closer in for any amount of money. But don’t get it twisted, it’s same exurbs that everyone on here takes great pains most of the time to disdainfully point out are rural. You just don’t like that the Dems position on data centers is one that costs them votes.

Wahhhh. They call my town suburbs *and* the sticks. Poor me.