Anyone else lose their groove during Covid with young kids and still not have it back?

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Anonymous wrote:Man y’all wouldn’t have lasted a week in the Dust Bowl or heck even in WWII with the rationing. Are there challenges today, sure but man life is good. Cancer death rates are dropping, we have access to all the art and information in the world, we have entertainment at our fingertips, we can eat food from all over the world. You really have to choose to glass half empty things. If you expect things to be miserable, they will be. Get over the pergola for god sake. Say it out loud to see how just ridiculous it sounds.

That's nonsense, of course. Those were times of physical hardships but also strong communities. Covid was the opposite.

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Anonymous wrote:Man y’all wouldn’t have lasted a week in the Dust Bowl or heck even in WWII with the rationing. Are there challenges today, sure but man life is good. Cancer death rates are dropping, we have access to all the art and information in the world, we have entertainment at our fingertips, we can eat food from all over the world. You really have to choose to glass half empty things. If you expect things to be miserable, they will be. Get over the pergola for god sake. Say it out loud to see how just ridiculous it sounds.

I don’t know — people from those eras had some serious trauma coming out the other end. I’m two generations removed from the dust bowl and I still deal with spoiled food in decidedly non-DCUM approved ways. That horror of food waste (and strict never to be altered water minimizing fish washing routine) was learned from my mother who learned it from her mother who lived through that. OP isn’t saying the acts she had to take with Covid were sooooooo hard, she’s saying she’s noticing negative changes in her behavior and mental health as a result and looking for ways to fix it.

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Anonymous wrote:As a mom of older kids, I'm confused why everyone things the pandemic told them something new. Yes the pandemic sucked but we weren't supported before the pandemic either.

Yes, thank you, I was coming to post this. All of these things were issues before the pandemic and they are issues after.

I'm not sure why everyone blames the pandemic for everything that's wrong with life.

Is "everyone" blaming the pandemic for "everything" that is wrong with life? Is that something people are doing in this thread? Examples please.

I'm not discounting that Covid was hard. It was, and it was harder for some than others. But raising kids and balancing family needs vs work etc was always hard pre Covid and continued to be hard today. So it's hard to tease out what was caused by Covid and what is just caused by life. And now Covid shutdown was a few years in the past, I think it's time to really start examining factors other than Covid if people are currently suffering.

Covid pushed back my special needs child’s diagnosis for several years. He struggled during the pandemic, so everyone told me it was the pandemic. We had to do YEARS of therapy to prove to people that he had autism. Meanwhile, everyone else was trying to get therapy, making wait lists ridiculous. We had to pay for all that therapy ourselves. If he’d been diagnosed earlier, it would have been free. That’s thousands of dollars down the drain. Stress. Advocating for him. Research.

Again, just because your life is back to normal, but everybody else is.

And whoever is gaslighting that lady who had to wait six months to take out her IUD can go straight to hell. That’s the most infuriating post I’ve had the displeasure I’d reading in this site.

I don’t know if this makes you feel better or not but I have a good friend whose son is autistic. They have paid thousands of dollars for therapy. He was diagnosed early and receives support but the child hasn’t improved much. My friend has admitted to me that when the therapists come, it just gives them a break. The kid is in so much therapy. It is very expensive. I know they have a mix of “free” services and services they pay for. My friend is very obviously autistic. If your child didn’t get diagnosed until later, he is likely high functioning.

Yes, he’s level 1.

More to my point, the changed during COVID wreaked havoc with his schedule. He was even more defiant than usual. He got used to staying in the house when the playgrounds closed down. My formerly outdoorsy child started refusing to leave the house. He’s in physical therapy for a weak core which I guarantee you stems from the pattern that started during that time. He was sturdy before then, as I got him outside as much as possible.

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Anonymous wrote:Man y’all wouldn’t have lasted a week in the Dust Bowl or heck even in WWII with the rationing. Are there challenges today, sure but man life is good. Cancer death rates are dropping, we have access to all the art and information in the world, we have entertainment at our fingertips, we can eat food from all over the world. You really have to choose to glass half empty things. If you expect things to be miserable, they will be. Get over the pergola for god sake. Say it out loud to see how just ridiculous it sounds.

That's nonsense, of course. Those were times of physical hardships but also strong communities. Covid was the opposite.

A relative who lived through a war said COVID was worse. During the war, they could still visit friends, have birthday parties, etc. They only have to hide for bombings. Of course, her house wasn’t hit and her family lived. Perhaps she’d have a different perspective if her family had experienced a loss?

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Anonymous wrote:Man y’all wouldn’t have lasted a week in the Dust Bowl or heck even in WWII with the rationing. Are there challenges today, sure but man life is good. Cancer death rates are dropping, we have access to all the art and information in the world, we have entertainment at our fingertips, we can eat food from all over the world. You really have to choose to glass half empty things. If you expect things to be miserable, they will be. Get over the pergola for god sake. Say it out loud to see how just ridiculous it sounds.

You've obviously never talked to someone who lived through the Dust Bowl or WWII, or read their letters or diary entries. They complained all the time, about everything! Not just how the war sucks or wow there are no jobs and food is scarce. They complained about the most mundane stuff. That's what people do.

You are literally complaining above about how you don't think Covid was bad enough to complain about. Whiner!

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Anonymous wrote:Man y’all wouldn’t have lasted a week in the Dust Bowl or heck even in WWII with the rationing. Are there challenges today, sure but man life is good. Cancer death rates are dropping, we have access to all the art and information in the world, we have entertainment at our fingertips, we can eat food from all over the world. You really have to choose to glass half empty things. If you expect things to be miserable, they will be. Get over the pergola for god sake. Say it out loud to see how just ridiculous it sounds.

You've obviously never talked to someone who lived through the Dust Bowl or WWII, or read their letters or diary entries. They complained all the time, about everything! Not just how the war sucks or wow there are no jobs and food is scarce. They complained about the most mundane stuff. That's what people do.

You are literally complaining above about how you don't think Covid was bad enough to complain about. Whiner!

Ok then choose to be unhappy. It’s all up to you.

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Anonymous wrote:Man y’all wouldn’t have lasted a week in the Dust Bowl or heck even in WWII with the rationing. Are there challenges today, sure but man life is good. Cancer death rates are dropping, we have access to all the art and information in the world, we have entertainment at our fingertips, we can eat food from all over the world. You really have to choose to glass half empty things. If you expect things to be miserable, they will be. Get over the pergola for god sake. Say it out loud to see how just ridiculous it sounds.

You've obviously never talked to someone who lived through the Dust Bowl or WWII, or read their letters or diary entries. They complained all the time, about everything! Not just how the war sucks or wow there are no jobs and food is scarce. They complained about the most mundane stuff. That's what people do.

You are literally complaining above about how you don't think Covid was bad enough to complain about. Whiner!

Ok then choose to be unhappy. It’s all up to you.

NP. Happy people generally don’t wake up on a Sunday morning and start berating people on the internet. So what’s eating at you?

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Anonymous wrote:Man y’all wouldn’t have lasted a week in the Dust Bowl or heck even in WWII with the rationing. Are there challenges today, sure but man life is good. Cancer death rates are dropping, we have access to all the art and information in the world, we have entertainment at our fingertips, we can eat food from all over the world. You really have to choose to glass half empty things. If you expect things to be miserable, they will be. Get over the pergola for god sake. Say it out loud to see how just ridiculous it sounds.

You've obviously never talked to someone who lived through the Dust Bowl or WWII, or read their letters or diary entries. They complained all the time, about everything! Not just how the war sucks or wow there are no jobs and food is scarce. They complained about the most mundane stuff. That's what people do.

You are literally complaining above about how you don't think Covid was bad enough to complain about. Whiner!

I can’t believe people are comparing Covid to WWII. You people are ridiculous.

The world was shut down for like 2 months. We drove to the beach, hung out with friends and lived a normal life. We did not isolate for years. We actually got closer to some people and distanced ourselves from people we didn’t care for.

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Anonymous wrote:As a mom of older kids, I'm confused why everyone things the pandemic told them something new. Yes the pandemic sucked but we weren't supported before the pandemic either.

Yes, thank you, I was coming to post this. All of these things were issues before the pandemic and they are issues after.

I'm not sure why everyone blames the pandemic for everything that's wrong with life.

Is "everyone" blaming the pandemic for "everything" that is wrong with life? Is that something people are doing in this thread? Examples please.

I'm not discounting that Covid was hard. It was, and it was harder for some than others. But raising kids and balancing family needs vs work etc was always hard pre Covid and continued to be hard today. So it's hard to tease out what was caused by Covid and what is just caused by life. And now Covid shutdown was a few years in the past, I think it's time to really start examining factors other than Covid if people are currently suffering.

Covid pushed back my special needs child’s diagnosis for several years. He struggled during the pandemic, so everyone told me it was the pandemic. We had to do YEARS of therapy to prove to people that he had autism. Meanwhile, everyone else was trying to get therapy, making wait lists ridiculous. We had to pay for all that therapy ourselves. If he’d been diagnosed earlier, it would have been free. That’s thousands of dollars down the drain. Stress. Advocating for him. Research.

Again, just because your life is back to normal, but everybody else is.

And whoever is gaslighting that lady who had to wait six months to take out her IUD can go straight to hell. That’s the most infuriating post I’ve had the displeasure I’d reading in this site.

I don’t know if this makes you feel better or not but I have a good friend whose son is autistic. They have paid thousands of dollars for therapy. He was diagnosed early and receives support but the child hasn’t improved much. My friend has admitted to me that when the therapists come, it just gives them a break. The kid is in so much therapy. It is very expensive. I know they have a mix of “free” services and services they pay for. My friend is very obviously autistic. If your child didn’t get diagnosed until later, he is likely high functioning.

Yes, he’s level 1.

More to my point, the changed during COVID wreaked havoc with his schedule. He was even more defiant than usual. He got used to staying in the house when the playgrounds closed down. My formerly outdoorsy child started refusing to leave the house. He’s in physical therapy for a weak core which I guarantee you stems from the pattern that started during that time. He was sturdy before then, as I got him outside as much as possible.

Our family was out in our backyard, walking around and biking from the first day of being shut down for Covid. That was your choice to stay indoors.

Many people ordered playground sets. We bought tons of outdoor toys. I didn’t step foot in a store for almost a year but we went outside almost everyday.

By Memorial Day 2020, beaches were open.

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Pp here. I’m sorry. My kids are neurotypical. I am sure you and your family faced harder difficulties. We enjoyed taking family walks, hikes and drives to anywhere. Not everyone has the same resources.

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Anonymous wrote:Man y’all wouldn’t have lasted a week in the Dust Bowl or heck even in WWII with the rationing. Are there challenges today, sure but man life is good. Cancer death rates are dropping, we have access to all the art and information in the world, we have entertainment at our fingertips, we can eat food from all over the world. You really have to choose to glass half empty things. If you expect things to be miserable, they will be. Get over the pergola for god sake. Say it out loud to see how just ridiculous it sounds.

That's nonsense, of course. Those were times of physical hardships but also strong communities. Covid was the opposite.

My 'community' was strong because I know how to rely on myself. Try it sometime!

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Anonymous wrote:Man y’all wouldn’t have lasted a week in the Dust Bowl or heck even in WWII with the rationing. Are there challenges today, sure but man life is good. Cancer death rates are dropping, we have access to all the art and information in the world, we have entertainment at our fingertips, we can eat food from all over the world. You really have to choose to glass half empty things. If you expect things to be miserable, they will be. Get over the pergola for god sake. Say it out loud to see how just ridiculous it sounds.

That's nonsense, of course. Those were times of physical hardships but also strong communities. Covid was the opposite.

My 'community' was strong because I know how to rely on myself. Try it sometime!

This person is an island, entire of herself! Whoever said that no man is an island was wrong!

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Anonymous wrote:I think isolating for 2 years did this OP. That’s a really long time and most people didn’t actually do that. It’s not a judgment, it’s just maybe a partial explanation why it did so much damage to your psyche. We were still careful-ish (masking and not going to crowded indoor events) but by summer of 2020 we were seeing friends and so were our kids. The mental healthy effects started to scare me more than Covid. We didn’t end up catching Covid until Oct 2022.

DP. I appreciate you being respectful in stating this position. Many people are much more judgmental, which is one of the most infuriating parts of the pandemic. Yes, many of us who exercised caution and significantly curtailed our activities due to COVID, whether due to personal health, caring for an elderly family member, a sense of community greater good, hope that sacrifice would lead to schools reopening, or whatever reason, have wound up struggling in our work, social, and family lives for a variety of reasons associated with isolation. Those who resumed more normal lives sooner tend to have little sympathy for these struggles as if listening to public health guidance at the time was some sort of personal failing or weakness. The harm caused by isolation was not considered in public health decisions and has not been acknowledged or discussed enough, leaving individuals feeling unsupported as they try to rebuild their lives.

Frankly I think this framing is part of the issue. The public health guidance is summer 2020 was not full isolation. We were very cautious and did not socialize indoors. But we did outdoor socializing, went to the pool and hung out in our neighborhood each day, hikes and playground, kid back in daycare. Extra time from WFH etc.

Recognize that not everyone was situated the same. But just saying that those of us who didn't "isolate" weren't actually doing anything wrong or contrary to what we were told.was appropriate during the pandemic.

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Anonymous wrote:I think isolating for 2 years did this OP. That’s a really long time and most people didn’t actually do that. It’s not a judgment, it’s just maybe a partial explanation why it did so much damage to your psyche. We were still careful-ish (masking and not going to crowded indoor events) but by summer of 2020 we were seeing friends and so were our kids. The mental healthy effects started to scare me more than Covid. We didn’t end up catching Covid until Oct 2022.

DP. I appreciate you being respectful in stating this position. Many people are much more judgmental, which is one of the most infuriating parts of the pandemic. Yes, many of us who exercised caution and significantly curtailed our activities due to COVID, whether due to personal health, caring for an elderly family member, a sense of community greater good, hope that sacrifice would lead to schools reopening, or whatever reason, have wound up struggling in our work, social, and family lives for a variety of reasons associated with isolation. Those who resumed more normal lives sooner tend to have little sympathy for these struggles as if listening to public health guidance at the time was some sort of personal failing or weakness. The harm caused by isolation was not considered in public health decisions and has not been acknowledged or discussed enough, leaving individuals feeling unsupported as they try to rebuild their lives.

Frankly I think this framing is part of the issue. The public health guidance is summer 2020 was not full isolation. We were very cautious and did not socialize indoors. But we did outdoor socializing, went to the pool and hung out in our neighborhood each day, hikes and playground, kid back in daycare. Extra time from WFH etc.

Recognize that not everyone was situated the same. But just saying that those of us who didn't "isolate" weren't actually doing anything wrong or contrary to what we were told.was appropriate during the pandemic.

Yes, we were out and about after the first two weeks. We hung out with the same families mostly outside. We checked out farms, breweries, hung out in backyards. I would meet some girlfriends in empty parking lots drinking 10-15 ft apart. Then we started bringing chairs to friends and it would be bring your own anything. No sharing.

I am a rule folllower and listened to guidelines the entire way. By 2021, our kids had small birthday parties in our backyard.

I was a very strict parent on screens before Covid. My kids loved all the extra screen time they got. They played all the video games and watched tons of tv and movies in 2020.

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Anonymous wrote:Man y’all wouldn’t have lasted a week in the Dust Bowl or heck even in WWII with the rationing. Are there challenges today, sure but man life is good. Cancer death rates are dropping, we have access to all the art and information in the world, we have entertainment at our fingertips, we can eat food from all over the world. You really have to choose to glass half empty things. If you expect things to be miserable, they will be. Get over the pergola for god sake. Say it out loud to see how just ridiculous it sounds.

You've obviously never talked to someone who lived through the Dust Bowl or WWII, or read their letters or diary entries. They complained all the time, about everything! Not just how the war sucks or wow there are no jobs and food is scarce. They complained about the most mundane stuff. That's what people do.

You are literally complaining above about how you don't think Covid was bad enough to complain about. Whiner!

Ok then choose to be unhappy. It’s all up to you.

NP. Happy people generally don’t wake up on a Sunday morning and start berating people on the internet. So what’s eating at you?

NP. Happy people are sick and tired of the constant whining and blaming everyone/everything for their problems. The entire world lived through Covid and it's inherent tragedies and problems and, I dare say. Americans had it better than every other country in the world!