Anyone else lose their groove during Covid with young kids and still not have it back?

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Anonymous wrote:Man y’all wouldn’t have lasted a week in the Dust Bowl or heck even in WWII with the rationing. Are there challenges today, sure but man life is good. Cancer death rates are dropping, we have access to all the art and information in the world, we have entertainment at our fingertips, we can eat food from all over the world. You really have to choose to glass half empty things. If you expect things to be miserable, they will be. Get over the pergola for god sake. Say it out loud to see how just ridiculous it sounds.

You've obviously never talked to someone who lived through the Dust Bowl or WWII, or read their letters or diary entries. They complained all the time, about everything! Not just how the war sucks or wow there are no jobs and food is scarce. They complained about the most mundane stuff. That's what people do.

You are literally complaining above about how you don't think Covid was bad enough to complain about. Whiner!

Ok then choose to be unhappy. It’s all up to you.

NP. Happy people generally don’t wake up on a Sunday morning and start berating people on the internet. So what’s eating at you?

NP. Happy people are sick and tired of the constant whining and blaming everyone/everything for their problems. The entire world lived through Covid and it's inherent tragedies and problems and, I dare say. Americans had it better than every other country in the world!

I’m the pp who said I followed guidelines all the way. Some people were selfish and wreckless. Some isolated for 2 years. Most people were in the middle, like we were.

We got vaccinated in 2021, started flying again.

Did these people really stay home for 1.5 years with no childcare? That was their choice. We lived in our new normal from May 2020. We cooked, baked, did a ton of puzzles, took walks. My kids were getting sick of walks. We would drive to take walks in new places.

I don’t understand these people who kept their kids inside. No one told you stay inside your home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Man y’all wouldn’t have lasted a week in the Dust Bowl or heck even in WWII with the rationing. Are there challenges today, sure but man life is good. Cancer death rates are dropping, we have access to all the art and information in the world, we have entertainment at our fingertips, we can eat food from all over the world. You really have to choose to glass half empty things. If you expect things to be miserable, they will be. Get over the pergola for god sake. Say it out loud to see how just ridiculous it sounds.

That's nonsense, of course. Those were times of physical hardships but also strong communities. Covid was the opposite.

A relative who lived through a war said COVID was worse. During the war, they could still visit friends, have birthday parties, etc. They only have to hide for bombings. Of course, her house wasn’t hit and her family lived. Perhaps she’d have a different perspective if her family had experienced a loss?

Um, what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think people are greatly exaggerating how long Covid impacted our lives. By 2021, we were used to our masked society. By spring 2021, everyone could get vaccinated. Society was up and running.

I understand that not everyone had the same resources but that is the same before and after Covid. If you wanted childcare, you could get it. It isn’t like childcare was unavailable for 3 years. My one friend would hobble together camps for the entire 2020 summer and when school did not open in the fall of 2020, she called every single preschool and daycare to find a spot for her two kids. A lot of places actually expanded their programs opening more kindergarten classes to accommodate those kids who couldn’t start kindergarten at their public schools.

I remember being torn between keeping our spot at our preschool but kept it and was glad that they had outdoor only for the first few months in fall 2020. I kept my kid most of winter.

Your anecdotal experiences and observations are not representative of my anecdotal experiences.

Winter 2021: my husband is medical sales and the hospitals in his region preemptively “out of an abundance of caution” postponed elective surgeries throughout the winter. The specific elective surgery he does did not resume until June 2021. But we didn’t know it would resume in June; rather, each month he would learn that “things will probably resume next month”. It was severely stressful and a total mindscrew. Sales has a very low base salary, so we lost our savings trying to keep our head above water during that 6 month period in 2021.

Summer 2021: our state mandated masks for kids in preschool age 5 and above (Massachusetts) in May or June 2021. It had been optional beforehand for private preschools. Our oldest has special needs and struggled with the mask, particularly during the outdoor times when it felt too hot and sweaty for him to keep on while running around. We followed the rules of the school and tried to help him keep it on, and the teacher tried to be understanding, but the new state-wide mandate of masks for all preschoolers-implemented in summer of 2021, after vaccines-was depressing for everyone involved. That mandate would remain in effect statewide until February 2022 and at our preschool until May 2022.

Late Summer 2021: I was induced with our third child. The induction was a two day process. I was instructed, unprompted during the initial briefing, by the intake nurse that I could not take the mask off at any time in the hospital. Thus I did the the induction process and gave birth with a mask. I know women who say that it did not bother them to give birth with a mask on, but I know other women who feel it was a traumatic experience. It was the latter for me, and I am deeply saddened even now when I think about our child’s birth. I have had the same doctor and nurses for all of my children’s births, and it was in the room next to where I previously gave birth, so the only difference in experience was wearing the mask to labor and push. I think because I know how special the other births were, and how great my doctor and the nurses are as people, I am even more saddened because I can compare the unpleasant third birth to the previous ones. I can’t pretend that giving birth in a mask was no big deal to me (despite my attempts to accept it in my head at the time). I then, predictably, developed postpartum depression after that third birth and felt a total lack of connection with society.

Fall 2021: I was in grad school for a challenging STEM field full time on the full GI bill before Covid began, and I was only a few classes away from graduating. I had stayed in school throughout Covid, pregnancies, and births. We had to drop down to part time status for childcare due to the financial challenges mentioned previously, but I was going to finish and be the first person in my family to both go to and graduate from graduate school. The classes I needed to graduate were only offered online fall 2021, but I did one that semester with two kids primarily at home and a newborn at home always. I did their crappy online version of the course that semester and kept in contact with my thesis adviser over zoom. Not to belabor the point, but I was resolute in gutting it out until I finished-no matter what. But in December 2021, I learned that my university was mandating the booster. I had a medically documented bad reaction to the second shot, but my exemption was not approved. It was my health versus finishing my degree, so I had to stop school just one semester away from graduating.

I’m probably writing into the void here, but I just wanted to be a counterexample to the assertion that the Covid era ended by 2021. The policies deeply affected my family’s lives, perhaps forever changing the trajectory of our path. We’ll be alright, my husband and I kept our marriage and we didn’t lose our shirts, but 2021 was a deeply miserable year for us specifically because of Covid policies.

[Anonymous]

For gods sakes pp - you CHOSE to get pregnant with a THIRD child once COVID had already broken out AND while you were doing the degree (and also working? Unclear). That wasn’t COVID policy! That was you taking more on your plate than you wanted to handle.

Why do some women deliberately make choices that clearly will lead to an insane, hectic life - and then complain that their lives are insane and hectic? You didn’t have to conceive a third kid at the end of 2020, beginning of 2021. That was your choice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think people are greatly exaggerating how long Covid impacted our lives. By 2021, we were used to our masked society. By spring 2021, everyone could get vaccinated. Society was up and running.

I understand that not everyone had the same resources but that is the same before and after Covid. If you wanted childcare, you could get it. It isn’t like childcare was unavailable for 3 years. My one friend would hobble together camps for the entire 2020 summer and when school did not open in the fall of 2020, she called every single preschool and daycare to find a spot for her two kids. A lot of places actually expanded their programs opening more kindergarten classes to accommodate those kids who couldn’t start kindergarten at their public schools.

I remember being torn between keeping our spot at our preschool but kept it and was glad that they had outdoor only for the first few months in fall 2020. I kept my kid most of winter.

Your anecdotal experiences and observations are not representative of my anecdotal experiences.

Winter 2021: my husband is medical sales and the hospitals in his region preemptively “out of an abundance of caution” postponed elective surgeries throughout the winter. The specific elective surgery he does did not resume until June 2021. But we didn’t know it would resume in June; rather, each month he would learn that “things will probably resume next month”. It was severely stressful and a total mindscrew. Sales has a very low base salary, so we lost our savings trying to keep our head above water during that 6 month period in 2021.

Summer 2021: our state mandated masks for kids in preschool age 5 and above (Massachusetts) in May or June 2021. It had been optional beforehand for private preschools. Our oldest has special needs and struggled with the mask, particularly during the outdoor times when it felt too hot and sweaty for him to keep on while running around. We followed the rules of the school and tried to help him keep it on, and the teacher tried to be understanding, but the new state-wide mandate of masks for all preschoolers-implemented in summer of 2021, after vaccines-was depressing for everyone involved. That mandate would remain in effect statewide until February 2022 and at our preschool until May 2022.

Late Summer 2021: I was induced with our third child. The induction was a two day process. I was instructed, unprompted during the initial briefing, by the intake nurse that I could not take the mask off at any time in the hospital. Thus I did the the induction process and gave birth with a mask. I know women who say that it did not bother them to give birth with a mask on, but I know other women who feel it was a traumatic experience. It was the latter for me, and I am deeply saddened even now when I think about our child’s birth. I have had the same doctor and nurses for all of my children’s births, and it was in the room next to where I previously gave birth, so the only difference in experience was wearing the mask to labor and push. I think because I know how special the other births were, and how great my doctor and the nurses are as people, I am even more saddened because I can compare the unpleasant third birth to the previous ones. I can’t pretend that giving birth in a mask was no big deal to me (despite my attempts to accept it in my head at the time). I then, predictably, developed postpartum depression after that third birth and felt a total lack of connection with society.

Fall 2021: I was in grad school for a challenging STEM field full time on the full GI bill before Covid began, and I was only a few classes away from graduating. I had stayed in school throughout Covid, pregnancies, and births. We had to drop down to part time status for childcare due to the financial challenges mentioned previously, but I was going to finish and be the first person in my family to both go to and graduate from graduate school. The classes I needed to graduate were only offered online fall 2021, but I did one that semester with two kids primarily at home and a newborn at home always. I did their crappy online version of the course that semester and kept in contact with my thesis adviser over zoom. Not to belabor the point, but I was resolute in gutting it out until I finished-no matter what. But in December 2021, I learned that my university was mandating the booster. I had a medically documented bad reaction to the second shot, but my exemption was not approved. It was my health versus finishing my degree, so I had to stop school just one semester away from graduating.

I’m probably writing into the void here, but I just wanted to be a counterexample to the assertion that the Covid era ended by 2021. The policies deeply affected my family’s lives, perhaps forever changing the trajectory of our path. We’ll be alright, my husband and I kept our marriage and we didn’t lose our shirts, but 2021 was a deeply miserable year for us specifically because of Covid policies.

Why did you CHOOSE to get pregnant during covid?!!! 90% percent of your misery was self inflicted.

[Anonymous]

Can you hear yourselves? You criticize a poster for putting off pregnancy during the pandemic and now you're criticizing a poster for not putting off pregnancy during the pandemic?

IOW, every decision a woman makes is a bad one. She's always wrong and it's always her fault.

[Anonymous]

Just found a letter from my great grandmother in 1947 blaming Hitler for the absence of a pergola. The struggle is real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can you hear yourselves? You criticize a poster for putting off pregnancy during the pandemic and now you're criticizing a poster for not putting off pregnancy during the pandemic?

IOW, every decision a woman makes is a bad one. She's always wrong and it's always her fault.

Lol this is the person who had a third child “during Covid”. Thank you, and I agree with you.

I won’t even comment if our third was planned or not, because either way it wasn’t the child who made 2021 miserable-it was the Covid policies. I had my second child while in the same graduate program and was back on campus five days postpartum, so I have a direct comparison that validates the negative impact of Covid policies.

Moreover, was Covid “over” in 2021 (thus making getting pregnant in early 2021 not unreasonable to these people) or was Covid “not over” in 2021 (thus proving that the people dismissing the Covid effects in 2021 wrong)? Lol the woman hating women are like a meme at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For gods sakes pp - you CHOSE to get pregnant with a THIRD child once COVID had already broken out AND while you were doing the degree (and also working? Unclear). That wasn’t COVID policy! That was you taking more on your plate than you wanted to handle.

Why do some women deliberately make choices that clearly will lead to an insane, hectic life - and then complain that their lives are insane and hectic? You didn’t have to conceive a third kid at the end of 2020, beginning of 2021. That was your choice.

Working as a TA and doing the same degree, for two pregnancies my friend! One pregnancy/delivery pre-Covid and one during Covid (or post Covid? Dependent upon who you ask). Adapt and overcome.

It was the booster mandate that prevented me from finishing, not my children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can you hear yourselves? You criticize a poster for putting off pregnancy during the pandemic and now you're criticizing a poster for not putting off pregnancy during the pandemic?

IOW, every decision a woman makes is a bad one. She's always wrong and it's always her fault.

Lol this is the person who had a third child “during Covid”. Thank you, and I agree with you.

I won’t even comment if our third was planned or not, because either way it wasn’t the child who made 2021 miserable-it was the Covid policies. I had my second child while in the same graduate program and was back on campus five days postpartum, so I have a direct comparison that validates the negative impact of Covid policies.

Moreover, was Covid “over” in 2021 (thus making getting pregnant in early 2021 not unreasonable to these people) or was Covid “not over” in 2021 (thus proving that the people dismissing the Covid effects in 2021 wrong)? Lol the woman hating women are like a meme at this point.

You’re linking your PPD with delivering the baby in a mask? That is actually certifiable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can you hear yourselves? You criticize a poster for putting off pregnancy during the pandemic and now you're criticizing a poster for not putting off pregnancy during the pandemic?

IOW, every decision a woman makes is a bad one. She's always wrong and it's always her fault.

Lol this is the person who had a third child “during Covid”. Thank you, and I agree with you.

I won’t even comment if our third was planned or not, because either way it wasn’t the child who made 2021 miserable-it was the Covid policies. I had my second child while in the same graduate program and was back on campus five days postpartum, so I have a direct comparison that validates the negative impact of Covid policies.

Moreover, was Covid “over” in 2021 (thus making getting pregnant in early 2021 not unreasonable to these people) or was Covid “not over” in 2021 (thus proving that the people dismissing the Covid effects in 2021 wrong)? Lol the woman hating women are like a meme at this point.

You’re linking your PPD with delivering the baby in a mask? That is actually certifiable.

You can thank my beloved OBGYN who was the one who pointed out the connection at my 6 week postpartum appointment. Lol if your next response to a random internet poster who had PPD is to attack to my OBGYN, I’m sure you’re a real favorite amongst your social circles.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you hear yourselves? You criticize a poster for putting off pregnancy during the pandemic and now you're criticizing a poster for not putting off pregnancy during the pandemic?

IOW, every decision a woman makes is a bad one. She's always wrong and it's always her fault.

Lol this is the person who had a third child “during Covid”. Thank you, and I agree with you.

I won’t even comment if our third was planned or not, because either way it wasn’t the child who made 2021 miserable-it was the Covid policies. I had my second child while in the same graduate program and was back on campus five days postpartum, so I have a direct comparison that validates the negative impact of Covid policies.

Moreover, was Covid “over” in 2021 (thus making getting pregnant in early 2021 not unreasonable to these people) or was Covid “not over” in 2021 (thus proving that the people dismissing the Covid effects in 2021 wrong)? Lol the woman hating women are like a meme at this point.

You’re linking your PPD with delivering the baby in a mask? That is actually certifiable.

You can thank my beloved OBGYN who was the one who pointed out the connection at my 6 week postpartum appointment. Lol if your next response to a random internet poster who had PPD is to attack to my OBGYN, I’m sure you’re a real favorite amongst your social circles.

You’re the one that is making mountains out of molehills. I bet the people in your life roll their eyes every time you open your fat trap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you hear yourselves? You criticize a poster for putting off pregnancy during the pandemic and now you're criticizing a poster for not putting off pregnancy during the pandemic?

IOW, every decision a woman makes is a bad one. She's always wrong and it's always her fault.

Lol this is the person who had a third child “during Covid”. Thank you, and I agree with you.

I won’t even comment if our third was planned or not, because either way it wasn’t the child who made 2021 miserable-it was the Covid policies. I had my second child while in the same graduate program and was back on campus five days postpartum, so I have a direct comparison that validates the negative impact of Covid policies.

Moreover, was Covid “over” in 2021 (thus making getting pregnant in early 2021 not unreasonable to these people) or was Covid “not over” in 2021 (thus proving that the people dismissing the Covid effects in 2021 wrong)? Lol the woman hating women are like a meme at this point.

You’re linking your PPD with delivering the baby in a mask? That is actually certifiable.

You can thank my beloved OBGYN who was the one who pointed out the connection at my 6 week postpartum appointment. Lol if your next response to a random internet poster who had PPD is to attack to my OBGYN, I’m sure you’re a real favorite amongst your social circles.

NP…
I am in MA as well. Where did you deliver so I can avoid your nutty OB? Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you hear yourselves? You criticize a poster for putting off pregnancy during the pandemic and now you're criticizing a poster for not putting off pregnancy during the pandemic?

IOW, every decision a woman makes is a bad one. She's always wrong and it's always her fault.

Lol this is the person who had a third child “during Covid”. Thank you, and I agree with you.

I won’t even comment if our third was planned or not, because either way it wasn’t the child who made 2021 miserable-it was the Covid policies. I had my second child while in the same graduate program and was back on campus five days postpartum, so I have a direct comparison that validates the negative impact of Covid policies.

Moreover, was Covid “over” in 2021 (thus making getting pregnant in early 2021 not unreasonable to these people) or was Covid “not over” in 2021 (thus proving that the people dismissing the Covid effects in 2021 wrong)? Lol the woman hating women are like a meme at this point.

You’re linking your PPD with delivering the baby in a mask? That is actually certifiable.

You can thank my beloved OBGYN who was the one who pointed out the connection at my 6 week postpartum appointment. Lol if your next response to a random internet poster who had PPD is to attack to my OBGYN, I’m sure you’re a real favorite amongst your social circles.

You’re the one that is making mountains out of molehills. I bet the people in your life roll their eyes every time you open your fat trap.

Haha omg, this is an even better response than I expected. My fellow human (or bot), please have a good day and I wish you all the best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you hear yourselves? You criticize a poster for putting off pregnancy during the pandemic and now you're criticizing a poster for not putting off pregnancy during the pandemic?

IOW, every decision a woman makes is a bad one. She's always wrong and it's always her fault.

Lol this is the person who had a third child “during Covid”. Thank you, and I agree with you.

I won’t even comment if our third was planned or not, because either way it wasn’t the child who made 2021 miserable-it was the Covid policies. I had my second child while in the same graduate program and was back on campus five days postpartum, so I have a direct comparison that validates the negative impact of Covid policies.

Moreover, was Covid “over” in 2021 (thus making getting pregnant in early 2021 not unreasonable to these people) or was Covid “not over” in 2021 (thus proving that the people dismissing the Covid effects in 2021 wrong)? Lol the woman hating women are like a meme at this point.

You’re linking your PPD with delivering the baby in a mask? That is actually certifiable.

You can thank my beloved OBGYN who was the one who pointed out the connection at my 6 week postpartum appointment. Lol if your next response to a random internet poster who had PPD is to attack to my OBGYN, I’m sure you’re a real favorite amongst your social circles.

You’re the one that is making mountains out of molehills. I bet the people in your life roll their eyes every time you open your fat trap.

Haha omg, this is an even better response than I expected. My fellow human (or bot), please have a good day and I wish you all the best.

Watch out for those paper masks, wouldn’t want you to screw your kid up over it. Oh wait, you’ve already checked that box!