MCPS Reaches Agreement with MCEA to Raise Teachers' Wages

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Anonymous wrote:We are a military family and we've had children in 17 different states. Been in MoCo for the past two years. I can tell you I have never seen more vitriol for teachers than I have in this county. We've lived in some...interesting places..Florida, Alabama, Louisiana. Never have I seen a group of people feel so entitled about teachers', their hours, their work/life balance than here. No wonder teachers are leaving MoCo to take lower paying jobs in neighboring counties. Look in the mirror. You're the problem.

17 states. Doubtful as then you are moving every year or more.

Why would I lie about this? My husbands been in the military for 34 years… we’ve moved less than most people I know. Try educating yourself first. So ridiculous.

So funny because the “doubtful that you are moving every year poster” just proved your point. MoCo parents (I am a MoCo parent and I agree wholeheartedly bc I see this on a daily basis) are terrible.

Mcps quality of teaching regardless of mcps issues is at an all time low. Some great teachers but few and far between.

While parents here are the worst, the teachers are the best. *shrugs* we’d love it here if it wasn’t for parents.

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Anonymous wrote:So a first-year teacher makes as much as the county's median income, and they feel underpaid?

So a first-year doctor makes as much as the county's median income, and they feel underpaid?
So a first-year lawyer makes as much as the county's median income, and they feel underpaid?
So a first-year engineer makes as much as the county's median income, and they feel underpaid?

My first year out of college, with a bachelor's degree in environmental science, I made more than the county's median income (adjusted for inflation),

Teaching ES isn't precisely comparable to performing heart surgery. Med school and residency take over a decade or more.

I've known a few remarkable teachers, but most seem to have degrees in psychology from Towson State. No offense but that is hardly comparable.

What's your obsession with Towson? You get rejected from there or something? Absolutely sounds like it. Stop disparaging other people's educations while hiding behind a keyboard. You have the mentality of a thirteen year old. Gross to see on a grown adult.

DP, but I imagine “psychology degree from Towson” is just a metaphor for any degree with relatively limited earning potential from an unimpressive school. There are a few people in this thread that seem to be making willfully misleading comparisons between professions and degrees.

People are comparing because there seem to be posters on this thread who don't understand the concept of contracts or how they work. There are people in this thread who cannot handle teachers "only" work 180 days of the year, while failing to acknowledge that many other, high paying professions also do not work as much as most people, but no one seems to have a problem with those jobs. That is the entire point. It's not hard to understand, but DCUM people seem to be absolutely incapable of rational thought.

Everyone understands how contracts work.

Nobody has a problem with teachers being contracted for fewer than the 250 days (minus ten days of leave) that is more common in the full time workforce. The only reason care at all how many days teachers work is when discussions come up about comparing salaries. Shockingly, nobody cares about how many days oil rig workers work, because they aren't on these boards complaining about their pay. You know this, but are being willfully obtuse.

lol everyone except you. Still so salty because 10 different people had to explain something to you that you still don’t get?

Still sending your Sunday trying to bully people online are you?

I'm not even the same poster. I just recognize your pathetic posts when I see them now. Maybe it's time for you to stop posting.

I'm fascinated by the fact that apparently multiple posters here think it is somehow convincing or persuasive to talk to people this way. I can see through the fact that you all keep saying I don't understand, but you can't actually point to any actual statement I have made that is incorrect. Certainly, you all are good at imagining in your heads ridiculous things that people could say, and arguing against that, but then you are just arguing with yourselves.

I don’t even care about this topic but don’t you know when it’s time to shut up? No one takes you seriously. Your posts are incoherent. You haven’t actually made any sense. You’re arguing with multiple people and you can’t even pick out who is who but yet we all know who you are.

Why do you think it's okay to talk to people this way? The fact that it's multiple people does not make it better. Why would I be able to pick out who is who on an anonymous message board? Literally answer that question, please?

Use that grey matter called your brain. I’ve easily followed along and can see who posted what. Yikes.

I really hope you are getting paid to be this terrible to people because if this is just how you entertain yourself, that's really disheartening.

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Anonymous wrote:We are a military family and we've had children in 17 different states. Been in MoCo for the past two years. I can tell you I have never seen more vitriol for teachers than I have in this county. We've lived in some...interesting places..Florida, Alabama, Louisiana. Never have I seen a group of people feel so entitled about teachers', their hours, their work/life balance than here. No wonder teachers are leaving MoCo to take lower paying jobs in neighboring counties. Look in the mirror. You're the problem.

17 states. Doubtful as then you are moving every year or more.

Why would I lie about this? My husbands been in the military for 34 years… we’ve moved less than most people I know. Try educating yourself first. So ridiculous.

So funny because the “doubtful that you are moving every year poster” just proved your point. MoCo parents (I am a MoCo parent and I agree wholeheartedly bc I see this on a daily basis) are terrible.

Mcps quality of teaching regardless of mcps issues is at an all time low. Some great teachers but few and far between.

While parents here are the worst, the teachers are the best. *shrugs* we’d love it here if it wasn’t for parents.

Have you sat and see what is going on? If you did and paid attention to your kids education you might see differently.

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Anonymous wrote:We are a military family and we've had children in 17 different states. Been in MoCo for the past two years. I can tell you I have never seen more vitriol for teachers than I have in this county. We've lived in some...interesting places..Florida, Alabama, Louisiana. Never have I seen a group of people feel so entitled about teachers', their hours, their work/life balance than here. No wonder teachers are leaving MoCo to take lower paying jobs in neighboring counties. Look in the mirror. You're the problem.

17 states. Doubtful as then you are moving every year or more.

Why would I lie about this? My husbands been in the military for 34 years… we’ve moved less than most people I know. Try educating yourself first. So ridiculous.

So, when is he retiring?

. And, do you have kids in mcps?

Lol at the entitlement. I owe you nothing. He’ll retire when he wants and we have multiple kids in MCPS… again, absolutely no business of yours. You need to seek some serious help.

Doubtful.

Just proving my point that MoCo parents are the worst. You do not matter. Thank goodness we’ll be moving again soon. Stay awful <3

That’s good. Especially if your husband is the one who is screwing up our health care.

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Anonymous wrote:We are a military family and we've had children in 17 different states. Been in MoCo for the past two years. I can tell you I have never seen more vitriol for teachers than I have in this county. We've lived in some...interesting places..Florida, Alabama, Louisiana. Never have I seen a group of people feel so entitled about teachers', their hours, their work/life balance than here. No wonder teachers are leaving MoCo to take lower paying jobs in neighboring counties. Look in the mirror. You're the problem.

17 states. Doubtful as then you are moving every year or more.

Why would I lie about this? My husbands been in the military for 34 years… we’ve moved less than most people I know. Try educating yourself first. So ridiculous.

So, when is he retiring?

. And, do you have kids in mcps?

Lol at the entitlement. I owe you nothing. He’ll retire when he wants and we have multiple kids in MCPS… again, absolutely no business of yours. You need to seek some serious help.

Doubtful.

Just proving my point that MoCo parents are the worst. You do not matter. Thank goodness we’ll be moving again soon. Stay awful <3

That’s good. Especially if your husband is the one who is screwing up our health care.

Like all of your other posts, this makes no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a “snobby” degree. I’m not a better teacher than colleagues who went to less “snobby” schools. I didn’t take any education classes until graduate school, while these colleagues started getting real-life practice while still an undergraduate. I had to catch up. What my snobby degree arguably did do was make it easier to transition to a new field and out of MCPS. I may have had more options because I hadn’t zeroed in exclusively on education as an undergraduate. I’m not sure young people are incentivized to seek out teaching as an undergraduate these days because they can find their way there through different tracks and preserve other options at the same time.

Finally, someone that seems to get it. It may seem horribly unfair, but compensation for a job is only very loosely tied to how good you are at your job, or how hard you work. It is more based on your replacement cost, which in turn is associated with the compensation offered to people with similar skills/education/experience in other jobs that could do your job at a minimally acceptable level.

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Anonymous wrote:We are a military family and we've had children in 17 different states. Been in MoCo for the past two years. I can tell you I have never seen more vitriol for teachers than I have in this county. We've lived in some...interesting places..Florida, Alabama, Louisiana. Never have I seen a group of people feel so entitled about teachers', their hours, their work/life balance than here. No wonder teachers are leaving MoCo to take lower paying jobs in neighboring counties. Look in the mirror. You're the problem.

17 states. Doubtful as then you are moving every year or more.

Why would I lie about this? My husbands been in the military for 34 years… we’ve moved less than most people I know. Try educating yourself first. So ridiculous.

So, when is he retiring?

. And, do you have kids in mcps?

Lol at the entitlement. I owe you nothing. He’ll retire when he wants and we have multiple kids in MCPS… again, absolutely no business of yours. You need to seek some serious help.

Doubtful.

Just proving my point that MoCo parents are the worst. You do not matter. Thank goodness we’ll be moving again soon. Stay awful <3

That’s good. Especially if your husband is the one who is screwing up our health care.

Like all of your other posts, this makes no sense.

If you were military right now you'd know what was going on.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a “snobby” degree. I’m not a better teacher than colleagues who went to less “snobby” schools. I didn’t take any education classes until graduate school, while these colleagues started getting real-life practice while still an undergraduate. I had to catch up. What my snobby degree arguably did do was make it easier to transition to a new field and out of MCPS. I may have had more options because I hadn’t zeroed in exclusively on education as an undergraduate. I’m not sure young people are incentivized to seek out teaching as an undergraduate these days because they can find their way there through different tracks and preserve other options at the same time.

Finally, someone that seems to get it. It may seem horribly unfair, but compensation for a job is only very loosely tied to how good you are at your job, or how hard you work. It is more based on your replacement cost, which in turn is associated with the compensation offered to people with similar skills/education/experience in other jobs that could do your job at a minimally acceptable level.

I’m not sure I read it the same way. To me, they are saying they have an out because they have a degree other than education. Many teachers do not. While teachers have transferable skills, teaching is all they know. So many are feeling incredible disenfranchised right now and overwhelmed.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a “snobby” degree. I’m not a better teacher than colleagues who went to less “snobby” schools. I didn’t take any education classes until graduate school, while these colleagues started getting real-life practice while still an undergraduate. I had to catch up. What my snobby degree arguably did do was make it easier to transition to a new field and out of MCPS. I may have had more options because I hadn’t zeroed in exclusively on education as an undergraduate. I’m not sure young people are incentivized to seek out teaching as an undergraduate these days because they can find their way there through different tracks and preserve other options at the same time.

Finally, someone that seems to get it. It may seem horribly unfair, but compensation for a job is only very loosely tied to how good you are at your job, or how hard you work. It is more based on your replacement cost, which in turn is associated with the compensation offered to people with similar skills/education/experience in other jobs that could do your job at a minimally acceptable level.

I’m not sure I read it the same way. To me, they are saying they have an out because they have a degree other than education. Many teachers do not. While teachers have transferable skills, teaching is all they know. So many are feeling incredible disenfranchised right now and overwhelmed.

PP here, and yes, that’s exactly it. That’s why teacher pay is what it is. Could some teachers change jobs and make more in total compensation? Yes, some could, but most could not.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a “snobby” degree. I’m not a better teacher than colleagues who went to less “snobby” schools. I didn’t take any education classes until graduate school, while these colleagues started getting real-life practice while still an undergraduate. I had to catch up. What my snobby degree arguably did do was make it easier to transition to a new field and out of MCPS. I may have had more options because I hadn’t zeroed in exclusively on education as an undergraduate. I’m not sure young people are incentivized to seek out teaching as an undergraduate these days because they can find their way there through different tracks and preserve other options at the same time.

Finally, someone that seems to get it. It may seem horribly unfair, but compensation for a job is only very loosely tied to how good you are at your job, or how hard you work. It is more based on your replacement cost, which in turn is associated with the compensation offered to people with similar skills/education/experience in other jobs that could do your job at a minimally acceptable level.

I’m not sure I read it the same way. To me, they are saying they have an out because they have a degree other than education. Many teachers do not. While teachers have transferable skills, teaching is all they know. So many are feeling incredible disenfranchised right now and overwhelmed.

PP here, and yes, that’s exactly it. That’s why teacher pay is what it is. Could some teachers change jobs and make more in total compensation? Yes, some could, but most could not.

I still don't see it that way. It's actually very insulting to education majors to say that. They know more than 2nd career educators in terms of pedagogy. They are helping shape your children's future. The future of society. Our next generation of IT professionals, Doctors, and Lawyers (or are they the only ones who deserve competitive compensation?). The people who will one day be taking care of us. So teaching is where it all begins. It should absolutely be valued more. But since it is primarily a women-centered profession, it is not put on the same pedestal as male-centered professions. Education has been underfunded for years and years across America. It's not going to change overnight, but the conversation is starting. If you want your future to be in the hands of poorly educated adults, then keep disparaging teachers. You all will get your wish.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a “snobby” degree. I’m not a better teacher than colleagues who went to less “snobby” schools. I didn’t take any education classes until graduate school, while these colleagues started getting real-life practice while still an undergraduate. I had to catch up. What my snobby degree arguably did do was make it easier to transition to a new field and out of MCPS. I may have had more options because I hadn’t zeroed in exclusively on education as an undergraduate. I’m not sure young people are incentivized to seek out teaching as an undergraduate these days because they can find their way there through different tracks and preserve other options at the same time.

Finally, someone that seems to get it. It may seem horribly unfair, but compensation for a job is only very loosely tied to how good you are at your job, or how hard you work. It is more based on your replacement cost, which in turn is associated with the compensation offered to people with similar skills/education/experience in other jobs that could do your job at a minimally acceptable level.

I’m not sure I read it the same way. To me, they are saying they have an out because they have a degree other than education. Many teachers do not. While teachers have transferable skills, teaching is all they know. So many are feeling incredible disenfranchised right now and overwhelmed.

PP here, and yes, that’s exactly it. That’s why teacher pay is what it is. Could some teachers change jobs and make more in total compensation? Yes, some could, but most could not.

I still don't see it that way. It's actually very insulting to education majors to say that. They know more than 2nd career educators in terms of pedagogy. They are helping shape your children's future. The future of society. Our next generation of IT professionals, Doctors, and Lawyers (or are they the only ones who deserve competitive compensation?). The people who will one day be taking care of us. So teaching is where it all begins. It should absolutely be valued more. But since it is primarily a women-centered profession, it is not put on the same pedestal as male-centered professions. Education has been underfunded for years and years across America. It's not going to change overnight, but the conversation is starting. If you want your future to be in the hands of poorly educated adults, then keep disparaging teachers. You all will get your wish.

It’s not disparaging teachers to offer a realistic view of comparable salaries. The simple fact is that the importance of a job is not closely tied to compensation for a job.

You’ve got to eat, right? How much do you think agricultural workers make?

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Anonymous wrote:So a first-year teacher makes as much as the county's median income, and they feel underpaid?

So a first-year doctor makes as much as the county's median income, and they feel underpaid?
So a first-year lawyer makes as much as the county's median income, and they feel underpaid?
So a first-year engineer makes as much as the county's median income, and they feel underpaid?

My first year out of college, with a bachelor's degree in environmental science, I made more than the county's median income (adjusted for inflation),

Teaching ES isn't precisely comparable to performing heart surgery. Med school and residency take over a decade or more.

I've known a few remarkable teachers, but most seem to have degrees in psychology from Towson State. No offense but that is hardly comparable.

What's your obsession with Towson? You get rejected from there or something? Absolutely sounds like it. Stop disparaging other people's educations while hiding behind a keyboard. You have the mentality of a thirteen year old. Gross to see on a grown adult.

DP, but I imagine “psychology degree from Towson” is just a metaphor for any degree with relatively limited earning potential from an unimpressive school. There are a few people in this thread that seem to be making willfully misleading comparisons between professions and degrees.

People are comparing because there seem to be posters on this thread who don't understand the concept of contracts or how they work. There are people in this thread who cannot handle teachers "only" work 180 days of the year, while failing to acknowledge that many other, high paying professions also do not work as much as most people, but no one seems to have a problem with those jobs. That is the entire point. It's not hard to understand, but DCUM people seem to be absolutely incapable of rational thought.

Everyone understands how contracts work.

Nobody has a problem with teachers being contracted for fewer than the 250 days (minus ten days of leave) that is more common in the full time workforce. The only reason care at all how many days teachers work is when discussions come up about comparing salaries. Shockingly, nobody cares about how many days oil rig workers work, because they aren't on these boards complaining about their pay. You know this, but are being willfully obtuse.

lol everyone except you. Still so salty because 10 different people had to explain something to you that you still don’t get?

Still sending your Sunday trying to bully people online are you?

I'm not even the same poster. I just recognize your pathetic posts when I see them now. Maybe it's time for you to stop posting.

I'm fascinated by the fact that apparently multiple posters here think it is somehow convincing or persuasive to talk to people this way. I can see through the fact that you all keep saying I don't understand, but you can't actually point to any actual statement I have made that is incorrect. Certainly, you all are good at imagining in your heads ridiculous things that people could say, and arguing against that, but then you are just arguing with yourselves.

I don’t even care about this topic but don’t you know when it’s time to shut up? No one takes you seriously. Your posts are incoherent. You haven’t actually made any sense. You’re arguing with multiple people and you can’t even pick out who is who but yet we all know who you are.

Why do you think it's okay to talk to people this way? The fact that it's multiple people does not make it better. Why would I be able to pick out who is who on an anonymous message board? Literally answer that question, please?

Use that grey matter called your brain. I’ve easily followed along and can see who posted what. Yikes.

I really hope you are getting paid to be this terrible to people because if this is just how you entertain yourself, that's really disheartening.

Nah, def not. I’m sorry you’ve been called out on your stupidity… must be rough. (Again, the best part is.. you keep replying to other posters instead of the OP… you’re not terribly brilliant are ya?)

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Anonymous wrote:We are a military family and we've had children in 17 different states. Been in MoCo for the past two years. I can tell you I have never seen more vitriol for teachers than I have in this county. We've lived in some...interesting places..Florida, Alabama, Louisiana. Never have I seen a group of people feel so entitled about teachers', their hours, their work/life balance than here. No wonder teachers are leaving MoCo to take lower paying jobs in neighboring counties. Look in the mirror. You're the problem.

17 states. Doubtful as then you are moving every year or more.

Why would I lie about this? My husbands been in the military for 34 years… we’ve moved less than most people I know. Try educating yourself first. So ridiculous.

So, when is he retiring?

. And, do you have kids in mcps?

Lol at the entitlement. I owe you nothing. He’ll retire when he wants and we have multiple kids in MCPS… again, absolutely no business of yours. You need to seek some serious help.

Doubtful.

Just proving my point that MoCo parents are the worst. You do not matter. Thank goodness we’ll be moving again soon. Stay awful <3

That’s good. Especially if your husband is the one who is screwing up our health care.

DP... their husband...in the United States military is screwing up our healthcare? More signs as an outsider that you're totally unhinged. Stop posting, you sound like a lunatic.

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Anonymous wrote:So a first-year teacher makes as much as the county's median income, and they feel underpaid?

So a first-year doctor makes as much as the county's median income, and they feel underpaid?
So a first-year lawyer makes as much as the county's median income, and they feel underpaid?
So a first-year engineer makes as much as the county's median income, and they feel underpaid?

My first year out of college, with a bachelor's degree in environmental science, I made more than the county's median income (adjusted for inflation),

Teaching ES isn't precisely comparable to performing heart surgery. Med school and residency take over a decade or more.

I've known a few remarkable teachers, but most seem to have degrees in psychology from Towson State. No offense but that is hardly comparable.

What's your obsession with Towson? You get rejected from there or something? Absolutely sounds like it. Stop disparaging other people's educations while hiding behind a keyboard. You have the mentality of a thirteen year old. Gross to see on a grown adult.

DP, but I imagine “psychology degree from Towson” is just a metaphor for any degree with relatively limited earning potential from an unimpressive school. There are a few people in this thread that seem to be making willfully misleading comparisons between professions and degrees.

People are comparing because there seem to be posters on this thread who don't understand the concept of contracts or how they work. There are people in this thread who cannot handle teachers "only" work 180 days of the year, while failing to acknowledge that many other, high paying professions also do not work as much as most people, but no one seems to have a problem with those jobs. That is the entire point. It's not hard to understand, but DCUM people seem to be absolutely incapable of rational thought.

Everyone understands how contracts work.

Nobody has a problem with teachers being contracted for fewer than the 250 days (minus ten days of leave) that is more common in the full time workforce. The only reason care at all how many days teachers work is when discussions come up about comparing salaries. Shockingly, nobody cares about how many days oil rig workers work, because they aren't on these boards complaining about their pay. You know this, but are being willfully obtuse.

lol everyone except you. Still so salty because 10 different people had to explain something to you that you still don’t get?

Still sending your Sunday trying to bully people online are you?

I'm not even the same poster. I just recognize your pathetic posts when I see them now. Maybe it's time for you to stop posting.

I'm fascinated by the fact that apparently multiple posters here think it is somehow convincing or persuasive to talk to people this way. I can see through the fact that you all keep saying I don't understand, but you can't actually point to any actual statement I have made that is incorrect. Certainly, you all are good at imagining in your heads ridiculous things that people could say, and arguing against that, but then you are just arguing with yourselves.

Sigh..I'll do it for everyone else. You're a moron. Plain and simple. What is your count up to now? 25 people? It's not bullying to call a a stupid person stupid. We all feel bad for you.

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Anonymous wrote:So a first-year teacher makes as much as the county's median income, and they feel underpaid?

So a first-year doctor makes as much as the county's median income, and they feel underpaid?
So a first-year lawyer makes as much as the county's median income, and they feel underpaid?
So a first-year engineer makes as much as the county's median income, and they feel underpaid?

My first year out of college, with a bachelor's degree in environmental science, I made more than the county's median income (adjusted for inflation),

Teaching ES isn't precisely comparable to performing heart surgery. Med school and residency take over a decade or more.

I've known a few remarkable teachers, but most seem to have degrees in psychology from Towson State. No offense but that is hardly comparable.

What's your obsession with Towson? You get rejected from there or something? Absolutely sounds like it. Stop disparaging other people's educations while hiding behind a keyboard. You have the mentality of a thirteen year old. Gross to see on a grown adult.

DP, but I imagine “psychology degree from Towson” is just a metaphor for any degree with relatively limited earning potential from an unimpressive school. There are a few people in this thread that seem to be making willfully misleading comparisons between professions and degrees.

People are comparing because there seem to be posters on this thread who don't understand the concept of contracts or how they work. There are people in this thread who cannot handle teachers "only" work 180 days of the year, while failing to acknowledge that many other, high paying professions also do not work as much as most people, but no one seems to have a problem with those jobs. That is the entire point. It's not hard to understand, but DCUM people seem to be absolutely incapable of rational thought.

Everyone understands how contracts work.

Nobody has a problem with teachers being contracted for fewer than the 250 days (minus ten days of leave) that is more common in the full time workforce. The only reason care at all how many days teachers work is when discussions come up about comparing salaries. Shockingly, nobody cares about how many days oil rig workers work, because they aren't on these boards complaining about their pay. You know this, but are being willfully obtuse.

lol everyone except you. Still so salty because 10 different people had to explain something to you that you still don’t get?

Still sending your Sunday trying to bully people online are you?

I'm not even the same poster. I just recognize your pathetic posts when I see them now. Maybe it's time for you to stop posting.

I'm fascinated by the fact that apparently multiple posters here think it is somehow convincing or persuasive to talk to people this way. I can see through the fact that you all keep saying I don't understand, but you can't actually point to any actual statement I have made that is incorrect. Certainly, you all are good at imagining in your heads ridiculous things that people could say, and arguing against that, but then you are just arguing with yourselves.

Sigh..I'll do it for everyone else. You're a moron. Plain and simple. What is your count up to now? 25 people? It's not bullying to call a a stupid person stupid. We all feel bad for you.

Lol, you still have nothing except schoolyard insults