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Anonymous wrote:https://www.salon.com/2023/09/08/dog-bites-are-on-the-rise-reports-but-its-unclear-whats-driving-the-trend/

Deadly dog bites are on the rise in the last three years. Gee. Whatever could be the cause of this.

Did you read the article? It doesn't blame the dogs or any specific breed but, the fault is on the humans who don't know how to read dog's clues. So, thanks for making my point!

I did read the article. You might be in denial about what these bred for aggression and reactivity and tenacity blood thirsty dogs are capable of, but unfortunately thousands of dogs and cats and hundreds of people have lost their lives. That’s a fact.

Facts:

https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/pitbull-statistics/

Ahh the good old - and debunked - Animal Temperment Test.

XL Bullies are banned in England. People are seeing through the lies pit bull people tell. People are starting to notice that even sweet family pets just snap and ear some old person. They’ve noticed that “support” animals eat their owner when they’re having a seizure. Too many people have seen videos of attacking pit bulls being hit repeatedly, shot sometimes even, and still out for toddler blood. The jig is up.

You are moving the goal post. We aren't talking about XL bullies

Pit Bulls are banned in the UK along with a couple of other aggressive breeds. XL Pit Bulls are next on the list to be banned.

There are so many dog breeds to choose from. Why choose a pit? I want this breed to be eliminated. All current pits should be spayed or neutered and the breed should die out via attrition.

I would love to see this as well. I have started carrying a handgun as I have seen too many off-leash pits and reckless pit owners even in my UMC neighborhood’s dog park.

It’s unreasonable to ask the general public to be okay with the risk of death or severe damage just so some schmucks can be pit bull owners.

OAN I believe there is something fundamentally wrong with people that seek out these dogs as pets.

I think there is something fundamentally wrong with you that condemns five breeds of dog. I remember when other dogs were the "villians" and now it is pit bulls turn. I am more likely to be killed by a person while in school or movie theatre than a pit bull. Again humans kill more pit bulls and humans than pit bulls do. But, I suppose logic isn't your strong suit.

Can you say logic is not somebody strong suit and you're comparing humans with Pitbulls?Try a I question your logic skills

Your sentence doesn't make any sense. We are talking about our risks in life. Statistically, we are at greater risk from humans than pit bulls. Sorry you don't get it.

You are comparing apples and oranges The poster was talking about eliminating a breed due to its tendency to be more violent than other breeds. And in talking about eliminating the breed, another poster is not talking about killing all pitbull's, but neutering and spaying all pitbull and pitbull mixes so the breed could be eliminated by attrition. Nothing wrong with that suggestion. We don't need more unwanted puppies.

+1
And oh do pit bulls have unwanted puppies. So many puppies.

I’d also be comfortable with pit bulls that bite and maim being put down in addition to neuter and spaying; that’s not a rule anymore. Lots of these “oh he’s a sweet lump of a shelter dog, he’s a couch hippo!” have bite histories, sometimes complex bite histories. The world is not the chew toy of the blood sport dog and since these people insist on bringing their bred for blood sport dogs everywhere they go, we’re all at risk.

What are you smoking? Pit Bulls are the number 1 dogs that are put down. I believe it is about 1 million. You will never fully eliminate any pit because of the mixes. Even if they have 10 percent pit you people are so bloodthirsty that you will kill them too. Again, statistically speaking the chance of you being killed by a pit bull is very small. You cannot say the same thing for humans.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.salon.com/2023/09/08/dog-bites-are-on-the-rise-reports-but-its-unclear-whats-driving-the-trend/

Deadly dog bites are on the rise in the last three years. Gee. Whatever could be the cause of this.

Did you read the article? It doesn't blame the dogs or any specific breed but, the fault is on the humans who don't know how to read dog's clues. So, thanks for making my point!

I did read the article. You might be in denial about what these bred for aggression and reactivity and tenacity blood thirsty dogs are capable of, but unfortunately thousands of dogs and cats and hundreds of people have lost their lives. That’s a fact.

Facts:

https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/pitbull-statistics/

Ahh the good old - and debunked - Animal Temperment Test.

XL Bullies are banned in England. People are seeing through the lies pit bull people tell. People are starting to notice that even sweet family pets just snap and ear some old person. They’ve noticed that “support” animals eat their owner when they’re having a seizure. Too many people have seen videos of attacking pit bulls being hit repeatedly, shot sometimes even, and still out for toddler blood. The jig is up.

You are moving the goal post. We aren't talking about XL bullies

Pit Bulls are banned in the UK along with a couple of other aggressive breeds. XL Pit Bulls are next on the list to be banned.

There are so many dog breeds to choose from. Why choose a pit? I want this breed to be eliminated. All current pits should be spayed or neutered and the breed should die out via attrition.

I would love to see this as well. I have started carrying a handgun as I have seen too many off-leash pits and reckless pit owners even in my UMC neighborhood’s dog park.

It’s unreasonable to ask the general public to be okay with the risk of death or severe damage just so some schmucks can be pit bull owners.

OAN I believe there is something fundamentally wrong with people that seek out these dogs as pets.

I think there is something fundamentally wrong with you that condemns five breeds of dog. I remember when other dogs were the "villians" and now it is pit bulls turn. I am more likely to be killed by a person while in school or movie theatre than a pit bull. Again humans kill more pit bulls and humans than pit bulls do. But, I suppose logic isn't your strong suit.

Can you say logic is not somebody strong suit and you're comparing humans with Pitbulls?Try a I question your logic skills

Your sentence doesn't make any sense. We are talking about our risks in life. Statistically, we are at greater risk from humans than pit bulls. Sorry you don't get it.

You are comparing apples and oranges The poster was talking about eliminating a breed due to its tendency to be more violent than other breeds. And in talking about eliminating the breed, another poster is not talking about killing all pitbull's, but neutering and spaying all pitbull and pitbull mixes so the breed could be eliminated by attrition. Nothing wrong with that suggestion. We don't need more unwanted puppies.

+1
And oh do pit bulls have unwanted puppies. So many puppies.

I’d also be comfortable with pit bulls that bite and maim being put down in addition to neuter and spaying; that’s not a rule anymore. Lots of these “oh he’s a sweet lump of a shelter dog, he’s a couch hippo!” have bite histories, sometimes complex bite histories. The world is not the chew toy of the blood sport dog and since these people insist on bringing their bred for blood sport dogs everywhere they go, we’re all at risk.

What are you smoking? Pit Bulls are the number 1 dogs that are put down. I believe it is about 1 million. You will never fully eliminate any pit because of the mixes. Even if they have 10 percent pit you people are so bloodthirsty that you will kill them too. Again, statistically speaking the chance of you being killed by a pit bull is very small. You cannot say the same thing for humans.

Remember folks: being delulu is the solulu.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.salon.com/2023/09/08/dog-bites-are-on-the-rise-reports-but-its-unclear-whats-driving-the-trend/

Deadly dog bites are on the rise in the last three years. Gee. Whatever could be the cause of this.

Did you read the article? It doesn't blame the dogs or any specific breed but, the fault is on the humans who don't know how to read dog's clues. So, thanks for making my point!

I did read the article. You might be in denial about what these bred for aggression and reactivity and tenacity blood thirsty dogs are capable of, but unfortunately thousands of dogs and cats and hundreds of people have lost their lives. That’s a fact.

Facts:

https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/pitbull-statistics/

Ahh the good old - and debunked - Animal Temperment Test.

XL Bullies are banned in England. People are seeing through the lies pit bull people tell. People are starting to notice that even sweet family pets just snap and ear some old person. They’ve noticed that “support” animals eat their owner when they’re having a seizure. Too many people have seen videos of attacking pit bulls being hit repeatedly, shot sometimes even, and still out for toddler blood. The jig is up.

You are moving the goal post. We aren't talking about XL bullies

Pit Bulls are banned in the UK along with a couple of other aggressive breeds. XL Pit Bulls are next on the list to be banned.

There are so many dog breeds to choose from. Why choose a pit? I want this breed to be eliminated. All current pits should be spayed or neutered and the breed should die out via attrition.

I would love to see this as well. I have started carrying a handgun as I have seen too many off-leash pits and reckless pit owners even in my UMC neighborhood’s dog park.

It’s unreasonable to ask the general public to be okay with the risk of death or severe damage just so some schmucks can be pit bull owners.

OAN I believe there is something fundamentally wrong with people that seek out these dogs as pets.

I think there is something fundamentally wrong with you that condemns five breeds of dog. I remember when other dogs were the "villians" and now it is pit bulls turn. I am more likely to be killed by a person while in school or movie theatre than a pit bull. Again humans kill more pit bulls and humans than pit bulls do. But, I suppose logic isn't your strong suit.

Can you say logic is not somebody strong suit and you're comparing humans with Pitbulls?Try a I question your logic skills

Your sentence doesn't make any sense. We are talking about our risks in life. Statistically, we are at greater risk from humans than pit bulls. Sorry you don't get it.

You are comparing apples and oranges The poster was talking about eliminating a breed due to its tendency to be more violent than other breeds. And in talking about eliminating the breed, another poster is not talking about killing all pitbull's, but neutering and spaying all pitbull and pitbull mixes so the breed could be eliminated by attrition. Nothing wrong with that suggestion. We don't need more unwanted puppies.

+1
And oh do pit bulls have unwanted puppies. So many puppies.

I’d also be comfortable with pit bulls that bite and maim being put down in addition to neuter and spaying; that’s not a rule anymore. Lots of these “oh he’s a sweet lump of a shelter dog, he’s a couch hippo!” have bite histories, sometimes complex bite histories. The world is not the chew toy of the blood sport dog and since these people insist on bringing their bred for blood sport dogs everywhere they go, we’re all at risk.

What are you smoking? Pit Bulls are the number 1 dogs that are put down. I believe it is about 1 million. You will never fully eliminate any pit because of the mixes. Even if they have 10 percent pit you people are so bloodthirsty that you will kill them too. Again, statistically speaking the chance of you being killed by a pit bull is very small. You cannot say the same thing for humans.

If all pits and pit mixes were spayed or neutered to be eliminated by attrition, there will be less Pitbulls to be put down. I think that is the best and most humane solution.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.salon.com/2023/09/08/dog-bites-are-on-the-rise-reports-but-its-unclear-whats-driving-the-trend/

Deadly dog bites are on the rise in the last three years. Gee. Whatever could be the cause of this.

Did you read the article? It doesn't blame the dogs or any specific breed but, the fault is on the humans who don't know how to read dog's clues. So, thanks for making my point!

I did read the article. You might be in denial about what these bred for aggression and reactivity and tenacity blood thirsty dogs are capable of, but unfortunately thousands of dogs and cats and hundreds of people have lost their lives. That’s a fact.

Facts:

https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/pitbull-statistics/

Ahh the good old - and debunked - Animal Temperment Test.

XL Bullies are banned in England. People are seeing through the lies pit bull people tell. People are starting to notice that even sweet family pets just snap and ear some old person. They’ve noticed that “support” animals eat their owner when they’re having a seizure. Too many people have seen videos of attacking pit bulls being hit repeatedly, shot sometimes even, and still out for toddler blood. The jig is up.

You are moving the goal post. We aren't talking about XL bullies

Pit Bulls are banned in the UK along with a couple of other aggressive breeds. XL Pit Bulls are next on the list to be banned.

There are so many dog breeds to choose from. Why choose a pit? I want this breed to be eliminated. All current pits should be spayed or neutered and the breed should die out via attrition.

I would love to see this as well. I have started carrying a handgun as I have seen too many off-leash pits and reckless pit owners even in my UMC neighborhood’s dog park.

It’s unreasonable to ask the general public to be okay with the risk of death or severe damage just so some schmucks can be pit bull owners.

OAN I believe there is something fundamentally wrong with people that seek out these dogs as pets.

I think there is something fundamentally wrong with you that condemns five breeds of dog. I remember when other dogs were the "villians" and now it is pit bulls turn. I am more likely to be killed by a person while in school or movie theatre than a pit bull. Again humans kill more pit bulls and humans than pit bulls do. But, I suppose logic isn't your strong suit.

Can you say logic is not somebody strong suit and you're comparing humans with Pitbulls?Try a I question your logic skills

Your sentence doesn't make any sense. We are talking about our risks in life. Statistically, we are at greater risk from humans than pit bulls. Sorry you don't get it.

You are comparing apples and oranges The poster was talking about eliminating a breed due to its tendency to be more violent than other breeds. And in talking about eliminating the breed, another poster is not talking about killing all pitbull's, but neutering and spaying all pitbull and pitbull mixes so the breed could be eliminated by attrition. Nothing wrong with that suggestion. We don't need more unwanted puppies.

+1
And oh do pit bulls have unwanted puppies. So many puppies.

I’d also be comfortable with pit bulls that bite and maim being put down in addition to neuter and spaying; that’s not a rule anymore. Lots of these “oh he’s a sweet lump of a shelter dog, he’s a couch hippo!” have bite histories, sometimes complex bite histories. The world is not the chew toy of the blood sport dog and since these people insist on bringing their bred for blood sport dogs everywhere they go, we’re all at risk.

What are you smoking? Pit Bulls are the number 1 dogs that are put down. I believe it is about 1 million. You will never fully eliminate any pit because of the mixes. Even if they have 10 percent pit you people are so bloodthirsty that you will kill them too. Again, statistically speaking the chance of you being killed by a pit bull is very small. You cannot say the same thing for humans.

If all pits and pit mixes were spayed or neutered to be eliminated by attrition, there will be less Pitbulls to be put down. I think that is the best and most humane solution.

I agree with the spaying and neutering and as a responsible owner I have done so but, you never answered what % of pit would be "acceptable" to you. Since the macho guys who abuse animals also breed them I do not see your solution actually working.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.salon.com/2023/09/08/dog-bites-are-on-the-rise-reports-but-its-unclear-whats-driving-the-trend/

Deadly dog bites are on the rise in the last three years. Gee. Whatever could be the cause of this.

Did you read the article? It doesn't blame the dogs or any specific breed but, the fault is on the humans who don't know how to read dog's clues. So, thanks for making my point!

I did read the article. You might be in denial about what these bred for aggression and reactivity and tenacity blood thirsty dogs are capable of, but unfortunately thousands of dogs and cats and hundreds of people have lost their lives. That’s a fact.

Facts:

https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/pitbull-statistics/

Ahh the good old - and debunked - Animal Temperment Test.

XL Bullies are banned in England. People are seeing through the lies pit bull people tell. People are starting to notice that even sweet family pets just snap and ear some old person. They’ve noticed that “support” animals eat their owner when they’re having a seizure. Too many people have seen videos of attacking pit bulls being hit repeatedly, shot sometimes even, and still out for toddler blood. The jig is up.

You are moving the goal post. We aren't talking about XL bullies

Pit Bulls are banned in the UK along with a couple of other aggressive breeds. XL Pit Bulls are next on the list to be banned.

There are so many dog breeds to choose from. Why choose a pit? I want this breed to be eliminated. All current pits should be spayed or neutered and the breed should die out via attrition.

I would love to see this as well. I have started carrying a handgun as I have seen too many off-leash pits and reckless pit owners even in my UMC neighborhood’s dog park.

It’s unreasonable to ask the general public to be okay with the risk of death or severe damage just so some schmucks can be pit bull owners.

OAN I believe there is something fundamentally wrong with people that seek out these dogs as pets.

I think there is something fundamentally wrong with you that condemns five breeds of dog. I remember when other dogs were the "villians" and now it is pit bulls turn. I am more likely to be killed by a person while in school or movie theatre than a pit bull. Again humans kill more pit bulls and humans than pit bulls do. But, I suppose logic isn't your strong suit.

Can you say logic is not somebody strong suit and you're comparing humans with Pitbulls?Try a I question your logic skills

Your sentence doesn't make any sense. We are talking about our risks in life. Statistically, we are at greater risk from humans than pit bulls. Sorry you don't get it.

You are comparing apples and oranges The poster was talking about eliminating a breed due to its tendency to be more violent than other breeds. And in talking about eliminating the breed, another poster is not talking about killing all pitbull's, but neutering and spaying all pitbull and pitbull mixes so the breed could be eliminated by attrition. Nothing wrong with that suggestion. We don't need more unwanted puppies.

+1
And oh do pit bulls have unwanted puppies. So many puppies.

I’d also be comfortable with pit bulls that bite and maim being put down in addition to neuter and spaying; that’s not a rule anymore. Lots of these “oh he’s a sweet lump of a shelter dog, he’s a couch hippo!” have bite histories, sometimes complex bite histories. The world is not the chew toy of the blood sport dog and since these people insist on bringing their bred for blood sport dogs everywhere they go, we’re all at risk.

What are you smoking? Pit Bulls are the number 1 dogs that are put down. I believe it is about 1 million. You will never fully eliminate any pit because of the mixes. Even if they have 10 percent pit you people are so bloodthirsty that you will kill them too. Again, statistically speaking the chance of you being killed by a pit bull is very small. You cannot say the same thing for humans.

If all pits and pit mixes were spayed or neutered to be eliminated by attrition, there will be less Pitbulls to be put down. I think that is the best and most humane solution.

I agree with the spaying and neutering and as a responsible owner I have done so but, you never answered what % of pit would be "acceptable" to you. Since the macho guys who abuse animals also breed them I do not see your solution actually working.

How about any percentage over 25% and/or has that rictus grin mouth and the butt crack head.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.salon.com/2023/09/08/dog-bites-are-on-the-rise-reports-but-its-unclear-whats-driving-the-trend/

Deadly dog bites are on the rise in the last three years. Gee. Whatever could be the cause of this.

Did you read the article? It doesn't blame the dogs or any specific breed but, the fault is on the humans who don't know how to read dog's clues. So, thanks for making my point!

I did read the article. You might be in denial about what these bred for aggression and reactivity and tenacity blood thirsty dogs are capable of, but unfortunately thousands of dogs and cats and hundreds of people have lost their lives. That’s a fact.

Facts:

https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/pitbull-statistics/

Ahh the good old - and debunked - Animal Temperment Test.

XL Bullies are banned in England. People are seeing through the lies pit bull people tell. People are starting to notice that even sweet family pets just snap and ear some old person. They’ve noticed that “support” animals eat their owner when they’re having a seizure. Too many people have seen videos of attacking pit bulls being hit repeatedly, shot sometimes even, and still out for toddler blood. The jig is up.

You are moving the goal post. We aren't talking about XL bullies

Pit Bulls are banned in the UK along with a couple of other aggressive breeds. XL Pit Bulls are next on the list to be banned.

There are so many dog breeds to choose from. Why choose a pit? I want this breed to be eliminated. All current pits should be spayed or neutered and the breed should die out via attrition.

I would love to see this as well. I have started carrying a handgun as I have seen too many off-leash pits and reckless pit owners even in my UMC neighborhood’s dog park.

It’s unreasonable to ask the general public to be okay with the risk of death or severe damage just so some schmucks can be pit bull owners.

OAN I believe there is something fundamentally wrong with people that seek out these dogs as pets.

I think there is something fundamentally wrong with you that condemns five breeds of dog. I remember when other dogs were the "villians" and now it is pit bulls turn. I am more likely to be killed by a person while in school or movie theatre than a pit bull. Again humans kill more pit bulls and humans than pit bulls do. But, I suppose logic isn't your strong suit.

Can you say logic is not somebody strong suit and you're comparing humans with Pitbulls?Try a I question your logic skills

Your sentence doesn't make any sense. We are talking about our risks in life. Statistically, we are at greater risk from humans than pit bulls. Sorry you don't get it.

You are comparing apples and oranges The poster was talking about eliminating a breed due to its tendency to be more violent than other breeds. And in talking about eliminating the breed, another poster is not talking about killing all pitbull's, but neutering and spaying all pitbull and pitbull mixes so the breed could be eliminated by attrition. Nothing wrong with that suggestion. We don't need more unwanted puppies.

+1
And oh do pit bulls have unwanted puppies. So many puppies.

I’d also be comfortable with pit bulls that bite and maim being put down in addition to neuter and spaying; that’s not a rule anymore. Lots of these “oh he’s a sweet lump of a shelter dog, he’s a couch hippo!” have bite histories, sometimes complex bite histories. The world is not the chew toy of the blood sport dog and since these people insist on bringing their bred for blood sport dogs everywhere they go, we’re all at risk.

What are you smoking? Pit Bulls are the number 1 dogs that are put down. I believe it is about 1 million. You will never fully eliminate any pit because of the mixes. Even if they have 10 percent pit you people are so bloodthirsty that you will kill them too. Again, statistically speaking the chance of you being killed by a pit bull is very small. You cannot say the same thing for humans.

If all pits and pit mixes were spayed or neutered to be eliminated by attrition, there will be less Pitbulls to be put down. I think that is the best and most humane solution.

I agree with the spaying and neutering and as a responsible owner I have done so but, you never answered what % of pit would be "acceptable" to you. Since the macho guys who abuse animals also breed them I do not see your solution actually working.

How about any percentage over 25% and/or has that rictus grin mouth and the butt crack head.

Just fyi you are a terrible human. Imagine judging a dog with 25% pit and 75% Lab as a dog not worthy of living. But you are not the boss of anyone so we can ignore your wishes

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.salon.com/2023/09/08/dog-bites-are-on-the-rise-reports-but-its-unclear-whats-driving-the-trend/

Deadly dog bites are on the rise in the last three years. Gee. Whatever could be the cause of this.

Did you read the article? It doesn't blame the dogs or any specific breed but, the fault is on the humans who don't know how to read dog's clues. So, thanks for making my point!

I did read the article. You might be in denial about what these bred for aggression and reactivity and tenacity blood thirsty dogs are capable of, but unfortunately thousands of dogs and cats and hundreds of people have lost their lives. That’s a fact.

Facts:

https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/pitbull-statistics/

Ahh the good old - and debunked - Animal Temperment Test.

XL Bullies are banned in England. People are seeing through the lies pit bull people tell. People are starting to notice that even sweet family pets just snap and ear some old person. They’ve noticed that “support” animals eat their owner when they’re having a seizure. Too many people have seen videos of attacking pit bulls being hit repeatedly, shot sometimes even, and still out for toddler blood. The jig is up.

You are moving the goal post. We aren't talking about XL bullies

Pit Bulls are banned in the UK along with a couple of other aggressive breeds. XL Pit Bulls are next on the list to be banned.

There are so many dog breeds to choose from. Why choose a pit? I want this breed to be eliminated. All current pits should be spayed or neutered and the breed should die out via attrition.

I would love to see this as well. I have started carrying a handgun as I have seen too many off-leash pits and reckless pit owners even in my UMC neighborhood’s dog park.

It’s unreasonable to ask the general public to be okay with the risk of death or severe damage just so some schmucks can be pit bull owners.

OAN I believe there is something fundamentally wrong with people that seek out these dogs as pets.

I think there is something fundamentally wrong with you that condemns five breeds of dog. I remember when other dogs were the "villians" and now it is pit bulls turn. I am more likely to be killed by a person while in school or movie theatre than a pit bull. Again humans kill more pit bulls and humans than pit bulls do. But, I suppose logic isn't your strong suit.

Can you say logic is not somebody strong suit and you're comparing humans with Pitbulls?Try a I question your logic skills

Your sentence doesn't make any sense. We are talking about our risks in life. Statistically, we are at greater risk from humans than pit bulls. Sorry you don't get it.

You are comparing apples and oranges The poster was talking about eliminating a breed due to its tendency to be more violent than other breeds. And in talking about eliminating the breed, another poster is not talking about killing all pitbull's, but neutering and spaying all pitbull and pitbull mixes so the breed could be eliminated by attrition. Nothing wrong with that suggestion. We don't need more unwanted puppies.

+1
And oh do pit bulls have unwanted puppies. So many puppies.

I’d also be comfortable with pit bulls that bite and maim being put down in addition to neuter and spaying; that’s not a rule anymore. Lots of these “oh he’s a sweet lump of a shelter dog, he’s a couch hippo!” have bite histories, sometimes complex bite histories. The world is not the chew toy of the blood sport dog and since these people insist on bringing their bred for blood sport dogs everywhere they go, we’re all at risk.

What are you smoking? Pit Bulls are the number 1 dogs that are put down. I believe it is about 1 million. You will never fully eliminate any pit because of the mixes. Even if they have 10 percent pit you people are so bloodthirsty that you will kill them too. Again, statistically speaking the chance of you being killed by a pit bull is very small. You cannot say the same thing for humans.

If all pits and pit mixes were spayed or neutered to be eliminated by attrition, there will be less Pitbulls to be put down. I think that is the best and most humane solution.

I agree with the spaying and neutering and as a responsible owner I have done so but, you never answered what % of pit would be "acceptable" to you. Since the macho guys who abuse animals also breed them I do not see your solution actually working.

How about any percentage over 25% and/or has that rictus grin mouth and the butt crack head.

Just fyi you are a terrible human. Imagine judging a dog with 25% pit and 75% Lab as a dog not worthy of living. But you are not the boss of anyone so we can ignore your wishes

Neutering isn't the same thing as deeming them not worthy of living

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.salon.com/2023/09/08/dog-bites-are-on-the-rise-reports-but-its-unclear-whats-driving-the-trend/

Deadly dog bites are on the rise in the last three years. Gee. Whatever could be the cause of this.

Did you read the article? It doesn't blame the dogs or any specific breed but, the fault is on the humans who don't know how to read dog's clues. So, thanks for making my point!

I did read the article. You might be in denial about what these bred for aggression and reactivity and tenacity blood thirsty dogs are capable of, but unfortunately thousands of dogs and cats and hundreds of people have lost their lives. That’s a fact.

Facts:

https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/pitbull-statistics/

Ahh the good old - and debunked - Animal Temperment Test.

XL Bullies are banned in England. People are seeing through the lies pit bull people tell. People are starting to notice that even sweet family pets just snap and ear some old person. They’ve noticed that “support” animals eat their owner when they’re having a seizure. Too many people have seen videos of attacking pit bulls being hit repeatedly, shot sometimes even, and still out for toddler blood. The jig is up.

You are moving the goal post. We aren't talking about XL bullies

Pit Bulls are banned in the UK along with a couple of other aggressive breeds. XL Pit Bulls are next on the list to be banned.

There are so many dog breeds to choose from. Why choose a pit? I want this breed to be eliminated. All current pits should be spayed or neutered and the breed should die out via attrition.

I would love to see this as well. I have started carrying a handgun as I have seen too many off-leash pits and reckless pit owners even in my UMC neighborhood’s dog park.

It’s unreasonable to ask the general public to be okay with the risk of death or severe damage just so some schmucks can be pit bull owners.

OAN I believe there is something fundamentally wrong with people that seek out these dogs as pets.

I think there is something fundamentally wrong with you that condemns five breeds of dog. I remember when other dogs were the "villians" and now it is pit bulls turn. I am more likely to be killed by a person while in school or movie theatre than a pit bull. Again humans kill more pit bulls and humans than pit bulls do. But, I suppose logic isn't your strong suit.

Can you say logic is not somebody strong suit and you're comparing humans with Pitbulls?Try a I question your logic skills

Your sentence doesn't make any sense. We are talking about our risks in life. Statistically, we are at greater risk from humans than pit bulls. Sorry you don't get it.

You are comparing apples and oranges The poster was talking about eliminating a breed due to its tendency to be more violent than other breeds. And in talking about eliminating the breed, another poster is not talking about killing all pitbull's, but neutering and spaying all pitbull and pitbull mixes so the breed could be eliminated by attrition. Nothing wrong with that suggestion. We don't need more unwanted puppies.

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And oh do pit bulls have unwanted puppies. So many puppies.

I’d also be comfortable with pit bulls that bite and maim being put down in addition to neuter and spaying; that’s not a rule anymore. Lots of these “oh he’s a sweet lump of a shelter dog, he’s a couch hippo!” have bite histories, sometimes complex bite histories. The world is not the chew toy of the blood sport dog and since these people insist on bringing their bred for blood sport dogs everywhere they go, we’re all at risk.

What are you smoking? Pit Bulls are the number 1 dogs that are put down. I believe it is about 1 million. You will never fully eliminate any pit because of the mixes. Even if they have 10 percent pit you people are so bloodthirsty that you will kill them too. Again, statistically speaking the chance of you being killed by a pit bull is very small. You cannot say the same thing for humans.

If all pits and pit mixes were spayed or neutered to be eliminated by attrition, there will be less Pitbulls to be put down. I think that is the best and most humane solution.

I agree with the spaying and neutering and as a responsible owner I have done so but, you never answered what % of pit would be "acceptable" to you. Since the macho guys who abuse animals also breed them I do not see your solution actually working.

How about any percentage over 25% and/or has that rictus grin mouth and the butt crack head.

Just fyi you are a terrible human. Imagine judging a dog with 25% pit and 75% Lab as a dog not worthy of living. But you are not the boss of anyone so we can ignore your wishes

Just come off it, oh my god.

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Deadly dog bites are on the rise in the last three years. Gee. Whatever could be the cause of this.

Did you read the article? It doesn't blame the dogs or any specific breed but, the fault is on the humans who don't know how to read dog's clues. So, thanks for making my point!

I did read the article. You might be in denial about what these bred for aggression and reactivity and tenacity blood thirsty dogs are capable of, but unfortunately thousands of dogs and cats and hundreds of people have lost their lives. That’s a fact.

Facts:

https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/pitbull-statistics/

Ahh the good old - and debunked - Animal Temperment Test.

XL Bullies are banned in England. People are seeing through the lies pit bull people tell. People are starting to notice that even sweet family pets just snap and ear some old person. They’ve noticed that “support” animals eat their owner when they’re having a seizure. Too many people have seen videos of attacking pit bulls being hit repeatedly, shot sometimes even, and still out for toddler blood. The jig is up.

You are moving the goal post. We aren't talking about XL bullies

Pit Bulls are banned in the UK along with a couple of other aggressive breeds. XL Pit Bulls are next on the list to be banned.

There are so many dog breeds to choose from. Why choose a pit? I want this breed to be eliminated. All current pits should be spayed or neutered and the breed should die out via attrition.

I would love to see this as well. I have started carrying a handgun as I have seen too many off-leash pits and reckless pit owners even in my UMC neighborhood’s dog park.

It’s unreasonable to ask the general public to be okay with the risk of death or severe damage just so some schmucks can be pit bull owners.

OAN I believe there is something fundamentally wrong with people that seek out these dogs as pets.

I think there is something fundamentally wrong with you that condemns five breeds of dog. I remember when other dogs were the "villians" and now it is pit bulls turn. I am more likely to be killed by a person while in school or movie theatre than a pit bull. Again humans kill more pit bulls and humans than pit bulls do. But, I suppose logic isn't your strong suit.

Can you say logic is not somebody strong suit and you're comparing humans with Pitbulls?Try a I question your logic skills

Your sentence doesn't make any sense. We are talking about our risks in life. Statistically, we are at greater risk from humans than pit bulls. Sorry you don't get it.

You are comparing apples and oranges The poster was talking about eliminating a breed due to its tendency to be more violent than other breeds. And in talking about eliminating the breed, another poster is not talking about killing all pitbull's, but neutering and spaying all pitbull and pitbull mixes so the breed could be eliminated by attrition. Nothing wrong with that suggestion. We don't need more unwanted puppies.

+1
And oh do pit bulls have unwanted puppies. So many puppies.

I’d also be comfortable with pit bulls that bite and maim being put down in addition to neuter and spaying; that’s not a rule anymore. Lots of these “oh he’s a sweet lump of a shelter dog, he’s a couch hippo!” have bite histories, sometimes complex bite histories. The world is not the chew toy of the blood sport dog and since these people insist on bringing their bred for blood sport dogs everywhere they go, we’re all at risk.

What are you smoking? Pit Bulls are the number 1 dogs that are put down. I believe it is about 1 million. You will never fully eliminate any pit because of the mixes. Even if they have 10 percent pit you people are so bloodthirsty that you will kill them too. Again, statistically speaking the chance of you being killed by a pit bull is very small. You cannot say the same thing for humans.

If all pits and pit mixes were spayed or neutered to be eliminated by attrition, there will be less Pitbulls to be put down. I think that is the best and most humane solution.

I agree with the spaying and neutering and as a responsible owner I have done so but, you never answered what % of pit would be "acceptable" to you. Since the macho guys who abuse animals also breed them I do not see your solution actually working.

How about any percentage over 25% and/or has that rictus grin mouth and the butt crack head.

Former prosecutor here, have prosecuted a number of dangerous dog cases and attended animal abuse conferences and am well educated on the dangers of bully breeds and other breeds that comprise the majority of lethal attacks on humans and other animals.

I am personally strongly anti-pit bull. It happens when you’ve actually seen the autopsy photos of children ripped apart by a pit bull attack. I honestly don’t even ‘get’ the attraction of these dogs, especially the XL models which look exactly like what they are capable of being - killing machines.

All that said, I have mixed feelings about how we eradicate the breed. A few months before the pandemic, having lost my last dog to illness and old age, I adopted a dog from an out of state rescue after searching for border collies and border collie mixes. My dog is a mix, but looks very much like a border collie in terms of size/shape of head/eye color/coat color (border collies come in many colors/patterns, hers fits one of the known variations).

She’s the best dog I’ve ever had, and I’ve had some fantastic dogs. Her behavior aligns closely with border collie behavior. She is velcro, sensitive and super intelligent. She’s also fierce - she once ran off a coyote that entered our yard and approached us at our fire pit - there was a tussle, no blood drawn by either canid but the coyotes have never come into the yard since.

I’m nuts about this dog.

A year or so after she came to live with me, Embark DNA kits went on sale and I had hers done. She is 27.5% border collie - and 30.9% American Pit Bull Terrier. The rest is a mix of Rottweiler, Labrador, German Shepherd Dog and Treeing Walker Coonhound.

She doesn’t have any of the typical physical characteristics of a pit bull, but you can’t deny that’s the majority of her genes. It makes me sick to think of her being euthanized for that, because she’s a fantastic dog - incredibly well behaved, almost never barks, super gentle mouth, very obedient. Everyone who meets her loves her, including people who tell me they’re lukewarm about dogs.

What’s the answer, then?

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Deadly dog bites are on the rise in the last three years. Gee. Whatever could be the cause of this.

Did you read the article? It doesn't blame the dogs or any specific breed but, the fault is on the humans who don't know how to read dog's clues. So, thanks for making my point!

I did read the article. You might be in denial about what these bred for aggression and reactivity and tenacity blood thirsty dogs are capable of, but unfortunately thousands of dogs and cats and hundreds of people have lost their lives. That’s a fact.

Facts:

https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/pitbull-statistics/

Ahh the good old - and debunked - Animal Temperment Test.

XL Bullies are banned in England. People are seeing through the lies pit bull people tell. People are starting to notice that even sweet family pets just snap and ear some old person. They’ve noticed that “support” animals eat their owner when they’re having a seizure. Too many people have seen videos of attacking pit bulls being hit repeatedly, shot sometimes even, and still out for toddler blood. The jig is up.

You are moving the goal post. We aren't talking about XL bullies

Pit Bulls are banned in the UK along with a couple of other aggressive breeds. XL Pit Bulls are next on the list to be banned.

There are so many dog breeds to choose from. Why choose a pit? I want this breed to be eliminated. All current pits should be spayed or neutered and the breed should die out via attrition.

I would love to see this as well. I have started carrying a handgun as I have seen too many off-leash pits and reckless pit owners even in my UMC neighborhood’s dog park.

It’s unreasonable to ask the general public to be okay with the risk of death or severe damage just so some schmucks can be pit bull owners.

OAN I believe there is something fundamentally wrong with people that seek out these dogs as pets.

I think there is something fundamentally wrong with you that condemns five breeds of dog. I remember when other dogs were the "villians" and now it is pit bulls turn. I am more likely to be killed by a person while in school or movie theatre than a pit bull. Again humans kill more pit bulls and humans than pit bulls do. But, I suppose logic isn't your strong suit.

Can you say logic is not somebody strong suit and you're comparing humans with Pitbulls?Try a I question your logic skills

Your sentence doesn't make any sense. We are talking about our risks in life. Statistically, we are at greater risk from humans than pit bulls. Sorry you don't get it.

You are comparing apples and oranges The poster was talking about eliminating a breed due to its tendency to be more violent than other breeds. And in talking about eliminating the breed, another poster is not talking about killing all pitbull's, but neutering and spaying all pitbull and pitbull mixes so the breed could be eliminated by attrition. Nothing wrong with that suggestion. We don't need more unwanted puppies.

+1
And oh do pit bulls have unwanted puppies. So many puppies.

I’d also be comfortable with pit bulls that bite and maim being put down in addition to neuter and spaying; that’s not a rule anymore. Lots of these “oh he’s a sweet lump of a shelter dog, he’s a couch hippo!” have bite histories, sometimes complex bite histories. The world is not the chew toy of the blood sport dog and since these people insist on bringing their bred for blood sport dogs everywhere they go, we’re all at risk.

What are you smoking? Pit Bulls are the number 1 dogs that are put down. I believe it is about 1 million. You will never fully eliminate any pit because of the mixes. Even if they have 10 percent pit you people are so bloodthirsty that you will kill them too. Again, statistically speaking the chance of you being killed by a pit bull is very small. You cannot say the same thing for humans.

If all pits and pit mixes were spayed or neutered to be eliminated by attrition, there will be less Pitbulls to be put down. I think that is the best and most humane solution.

I agree with the spaying and neutering and as a responsible owner I have done so but, you never answered what % of pit would be "acceptable" to you. Since the macho guys who abuse animals also breed them I do not see your solution actually working.

How about any percentage over 25% and/or has that rictus grin mouth and the butt crack head.

Former prosecutor here, have prosecuted a number of dangerous dog cases and attended animal abuse conferences and am well educated on the dangers of bully breeds and other breeds that comprise the majority of lethal attacks on humans and other animals.

I am personally strongly anti-pit bull. It happens when you’ve actually seen the autopsy photos of children ripped apart by a pit bull attack. I honestly don’t even ‘get’ the attraction of these dogs, especially the XL models which look exactly like what they are capable of being - killing machines.

All that said, I have mixed feelings about how we eradicate the breed. A few months before the pandemic, having lost my last dog to illness and old age, I adopted a dog from an out of state rescue after searching for border collies and border collie mixes. My dog is a mix, but looks very much like a border collie in terms of size/shape of head/eye color/coat color (border collies come in many colors/patterns, hers fits one of the known variations).

She’s the best dog I’ve ever had, and I’ve had some fantastic dogs. Her behavior aligns closely with border collie behavior. She is velcro, sensitive and super intelligent. She’s also fierce - she once ran off a coyote that entered our yard and approached us at our fire pit - there was a tussle, no blood drawn by either canid but the coyotes have never come into the yard since.

I’m nuts about this dog.

A year or so after she came to live with me, Embark DNA kits went on sale and I had hers done. She is 27.5% border collie - and 30.9% American Pit Bull Terrier. The rest is a mix of Rottweiler, Labrador, German Shepherd Dog and Treeing Walker Coonhound.

She doesn’t have any of the typical physical characteristics of a pit bull, but you can’t deny that’s the majority of her genes. It makes me sick to think of her being euthanized for that, because she’s a fantastic dog - incredibly well behaved, almost never barks, super gentle mouth, very obedient. Everyone who meets her loves her, including people who tell me they’re lukewarm about dogs.

What’s the answer, then?

I should add, that I considered having her DNA done before she was transported to me - she was a few months coming to me from Arkansas because she was heartworm positive and had to have treatment before they would send her.

If I’d known she was 30.9% pit bull then, I likely would have asked for my adoption fee to be transferred to another dog. I live with a kid and I would have feared the pit bull in her. That kid adores the dog, and the dog has never shown any signs of aggression toward any of us - and I’m a person who has studied canine behavior and knows what to look for.

I’m so glad I didn’t get the test done ahead of time.

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Pitbulls, aka XL American Bullies, are banned in the UK. It is illegal to own one. How does the UK address PP's DNA dilemma?

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Deadly dog bites are on the rise in the last three years. Gee. Whatever could be the cause of this.

Did you read the article? It doesn't blame the dogs or any specific breed but, the fault is on the humans who don't know how to read dog's clues. So, thanks for making my point!

I did read the article. You might be in denial about what these bred for aggression and reactivity and tenacity blood thirsty dogs are capable of, but unfortunately thousands of dogs and cats and hundreds of people have lost their lives. That’s a fact.

Facts:

https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/pitbull-statistics/

Ahh the good old - and debunked - Animal Temperment Test.

XL Bullies are banned in England. People are seeing through the lies pit bull people tell. People are starting to notice that even sweet family pets just snap and ear some old person. They’ve noticed that “support” animals eat their owner when they’re having a seizure. Too many people have seen videos of attacking pit bulls being hit repeatedly, shot sometimes even, and still out for toddler blood. The jig is up.

You are moving the goal post. We aren't talking about XL bullies

Pit Bulls are banned in the UK along with a couple of other aggressive breeds. XL Pit Bulls are next on the list to be banned.

There are so many dog breeds to choose from. Why choose a pit? I want this breed to be eliminated. All current pits should be spayed or neutered and the breed should die out via attrition.

I would love to see this as well. I have started carrying a handgun as I have seen too many off-leash pits and reckless pit owners even in my UMC neighborhood’s dog park.

It’s unreasonable to ask the general public to be okay with the risk of death or severe damage just so some schmucks can be pit bull owners.

OAN I believe there is something fundamentally wrong with people that seek out these dogs as pets.

I think there is something fundamentally wrong with you that condemns five breeds of dog. I remember when other dogs were the "villians" and now it is pit bulls turn. I am more likely to be killed by a person while in school or movie theatre than a pit bull. Again humans kill more pit bulls and humans than pit bulls do. But, I suppose logic isn't your strong suit.

Can you say logic is not somebody strong suit and you're comparing humans with Pitbulls?Try a I question your logic skills

Your sentence doesn't make any sense. We are talking about our risks in life. Statistically, we are at greater risk from humans than pit bulls. Sorry you don't get it.

You are comparing apples and oranges The poster was talking about eliminating a breed due to its tendency to be more violent than other breeds. And in talking about eliminating the breed, another poster is not talking about killing all pitbull's, but neutering and spaying all pitbull and pitbull mixes so the breed could be eliminated by attrition. Nothing wrong with that suggestion. We don't need more unwanted puppies.

+1
And oh do pit bulls have unwanted puppies. So many puppies.

I’d also be comfortable with pit bulls that bite and maim being put down in addition to neuter and spaying; that’s not a rule anymore. Lots of these “oh he’s a sweet lump of a shelter dog, he’s a couch hippo!” have bite histories, sometimes complex bite histories. The world is not the chew toy of the blood sport dog and since these people insist on bringing their bred for blood sport dogs everywhere they go, we’re all at risk.

What are you smoking? Pit Bulls are the number 1 dogs that are put down. I believe it is about 1 million. You will never fully eliminate any pit because of the mixes. Even if they have 10 percent pit you people are so bloodthirsty that you will kill them too. Again, statistically speaking the chance of you being killed by a pit bull is very small. You cannot say the same thing for humans.

If all pits and pit mixes were spayed or neutered to be eliminated by attrition, there will be less Pitbulls to be put down. I think that is the best and most humane solution.

I agree with the spaying and neutering and as a responsible owner I have done so but, you never answered what % of pit would be "acceptable" to you. Since the macho guys who abuse animals also breed them I do not see your solution actually working.

How about any percentage over 25% and/or has that rictus grin mouth and the butt crack head.

Former prosecutor here, have prosecuted a number of dangerous dog cases and attended animal abuse conferences and am well educated on the dangers of bully breeds and other breeds that comprise the majority of lethal attacks on humans and other animals.

I am personally strongly anti-pit bull. It happens when you’ve actually seen the autopsy photos of children ripped apart by a pit bull attack. I honestly don’t even ‘get’ the attraction of these dogs, especially the XL models which look exactly like what they are capable of being - killing machines.

All that said, I have mixed feelings about how we eradicate the breed. A few months before the pandemic, having lost my last dog to illness and old age, I adopted a dog from an out of state rescue after searching for border collies and border collie mixes. My dog is a mix, but looks very much like a border collie in terms of size/shape of head/eye color/coat color (border collies come in many colors/patterns, hers fits one of the known variations).

She’s the best dog I’ve ever had, and I’ve had some fantastic dogs. Her behavior aligns closely with border collie behavior. She is velcro, sensitive and super intelligent. She’s also fierce - she once ran off a coyote that entered our yard and approached us at our fire pit - there was a tussle, no blood drawn by either canid but the coyotes have never come into the yard since.

I’m nuts about this dog.

A year or so after she came to live with me, Embark DNA kits went on sale and I had hers done. She is 27.5% border collie - and 30.9% American Pit Bull Terrier. The rest is a mix of Rottweiler, Labrador, German Shepherd Dog and Treeing Walker Coonhound.

She doesn’t have any of the typical physical characteristics of a pit bull, but you can’t deny that’s the majority of her genes. It makes me sick to think of her being euthanized for that, because she’s a fantastic dog - incredibly well behaved, almost never barks, super gentle mouth, very obedient. Everyone who meets her loves her, including people who tell me they’re lukewarm about dogs.

What’s the answer, then?

I should add, that I considered having her DNA done before she was transported to me - she was a few months coming to me from Arkansas because she was heartworm positive and had to have treatment before they would send her.

If I’d known she was 30.9% pit bull then, I likely would have asked for my adoption fee to be transferred to another dog. I live with a kid and I would have feared the pit bull in her. That kid adores the dog, and the dog has never shown any signs of aggression toward any of us - and I’m a person who has studied canine behavior and knows what to look for.

I’m so glad I didn’t get the test done ahead of time.

The answer is not to judge a dog based on the dna. Stop blaming the "pit" part if a dog misbehaves. My dog has border collie and likes to herd my kids. But because it is a border collie no one would suggest to euthanize it just because it is a border collie. If anything we need to enforce the education and protect all dogs from bad owners. We all need to say something if we see dogs are being mistreated. There are so many good pit bulls out there.

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Deadly dog bites are on the rise in the last three years. Gee. Whatever could be the cause of this.

Did you read the article? It doesn't blame the dogs or any specific breed but, the fault is on the humans who don't know how to read dog's clues. So, thanks for making my point!

I did read the article. You might be in denial about what these bred for aggression and reactivity and tenacity blood thirsty dogs are capable of, but unfortunately thousands of dogs and cats and hundreds of people have lost their lives. That’s a fact.

Facts:

https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/pitbull-statistics/

Ahh the good old - and debunked - Animal Temperment Test.

XL Bullies are banned in England. People are seeing through the lies pit bull people tell. People are starting to notice that even sweet family pets just snap and ear some old person. They’ve noticed that “support” animals eat their owner when they’re having a seizure. Too many people have seen videos of attacking pit bulls being hit repeatedly, shot sometimes even, and still out for toddler blood. The jig is up.

You are moving the goal post. We aren't talking about XL bullies

Pit Bulls are banned in the UK along with a couple of other aggressive breeds. XL Pit Bulls are next on the list to be banned.

There are so many dog breeds to choose from. Why choose a pit? I want this breed to be eliminated. All current pits should be spayed or neutered and the breed should die out via attrition.

I would love to see this as well. I have started carrying a handgun as I have seen too many off-leash pits and reckless pit owners even in my UMC neighborhood’s dog park.

It’s unreasonable to ask the general public to be okay with the risk of death or severe damage just so some schmucks can be pit bull owners.

OAN I believe there is something fundamentally wrong with people that seek out these dogs as pets.

I think there is something fundamentally wrong with you that condemns five breeds of dog. I remember when other dogs were the "villians" and now it is pit bulls turn. I am more likely to be killed by a person while in school or movie theatre than a pit bull. Again humans kill more pit bulls and humans than pit bulls do. But, I suppose logic isn't your strong suit.

Can you say logic is not somebody strong suit and you're comparing humans with Pitbulls?Try a I question your logic skills

Your sentence doesn't make any sense. We are talking about our risks in life. Statistically, we are at greater risk from humans than pit bulls. Sorry you don't get it.

You are comparing apples and oranges The poster was talking about eliminating a breed due to its tendency to be more violent than other breeds. And in talking about eliminating the breed, another poster is not talking about killing all pitbull's, but neutering and spaying all pitbull and pitbull mixes so the breed could be eliminated by attrition. Nothing wrong with that suggestion. We don't need more unwanted puppies.

+1
And oh do pit bulls have unwanted puppies. So many puppies.

I’d also be comfortable with pit bulls that bite and maim being put down in addition to neuter and spaying; that’s not a rule anymore. Lots of these “oh he’s a sweet lump of a shelter dog, he’s a couch hippo!” have bite histories, sometimes complex bite histories. The world is not the chew toy of the blood sport dog and since these people insist on bringing their bred for blood sport dogs everywhere they go, we’re all at risk.

What are you smoking? Pit Bulls are the number 1 dogs that are put down. I believe it is about 1 million. You will never fully eliminate any pit because of the mixes. Even if they have 10 percent pit you people are so bloodthirsty that you will kill them too. Again, statistically speaking the chance of you being killed by a pit bull is very small. You cannot say the same thing for humans.

If all pits and pit mixes were spayed or neutered to be eliminated by attrition, there will be less Pitbulls to be put down. I think that is the best and most humane solution.

I agree with the spaying and neutering and as a responsible owner I have done so but, you never answered what % of pit would be "acceptable" to you. Since the macho guys who abuse animals also breed them I do not see your solution actually working.

How about any percentage over 25% and/or has that rictus grin mouth and the butt crack head.

Just fyi you are a terrible human. Imagine judging a dog with 25% pit and 75% Lab as a dog not worthy of living. But you are not the boss of anyone so we can ignore your wishes

Just come off it, oh my god.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.salon.com/2023/09/08/dog-bites-are-on-the-rise-reports-but-its-unclear-whats-driving-the-trend/

Deadly dog bites are on the rise in the last three years. Gee. Whatever could be the cause of this.

Did you read the article? It doesn't blame the dogs or any specific breed but, the fault is on the humans who don't know how to read dog's clues. So, thanks for making my point!

I did read the article. You might be in denial about what these bred for aggression and reactivity and tenacity blood thirsty dogs are capable of, but unfortunately thousands of dogs and cats and hundreds of people have lost their lives. That’s a fact.

Facts:

https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/pitbull-statistics/

Ahh the good old - and debunked - Animal Temperment Test.

XL Bullies are banned in England. People are seeing through the lies pit bull people tell. People are starting to notice that even sweet family pets just snap and ear some old person. They’ve noticed that “support” animals eat their owner when they’re having a seizure. Too many people have seen videos of attacking pit bulls being hit repeatedly, shot sometimes even, and still out for toddler blood. The jig is up.

You are moving the goal post. We aren't talking about XL bullies

Pit Bulls are banned in the UK along with a couple of other aggressive breeds. XL Pit Bulls are next on the list to be banned.

There are so many dog breeds to choose from. Why choose a pit? I want this breed to be eliminated. All current pits should be spayed or neutered and the breed should die out via attrition.

I would love to see this as well. I have started carrying a handgun as I have seen too many off-leash pits and reckless pit owners even in my UMC neighborhood’s dog park.

It’s unreasonable to ask the general public to be okay with the risk of death or severe damage just so some schmucks can be pit bull owners.

OAN I believe there is something fundamentally wrong with people that seek out these dogs as pets.

I think there is something fundamentally wrong with you that condemns five breeds of dog. I remember when other dogs were the "villians" and now it is pit bulls turn. I am more likely to be killed by a person while in school or movie theatre than a pit bull. Again humans kill more pit bulls and humans than pit bulls do. But, I suppose logic isn't your strong suit.

Can you say logic is not somebody strong suit and you're comparing humans with Pitbulls?Try a I question your logic skills

Your sentence doesn't make any sense. We are talking about our risks in life. Statistically, we are at greater risk from humans than pit bulls. Sorry you don't get it.

You are comparing apples and oranges The poster was talking about eliminating a breed due to its tendency to be more violent than other breeds. And in talking about eliminating the breed, another poster is not talking about killing all pitbull's, but neutering and spaying all pitbull and pitbull mixes so the breed could be eliminated by attrition. Nothing wrong with that suggestion. We don't need more unwanted puppies.

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And oh do pit bulls have unwanted puppies. So many puppies.

I’d also be comfortable with pit bulls that bite and maim being put down in addition to neuter and spaying; that’s not a rule anymore. Lots of these “oh he’s a sweet lump of a shelter dog, he’s a couch hippo!” have bite histories, sometimes complex bite histories. The world is not the chew toy of the blood sport dog and since these people insist on bringing their bred for blood sport dogs everywhere they go, we’re all at risk.

What are you smoking? Pit Bulls are the number 1 dogs that are put down. I believe it is about 1 million. You will never fully eliminate any pit because of the mixes. Even if they have 10 percent pit you people are so bloodthirsty that you will kill them too. Again, statistically speaking the chance of you being killed by a pit bull is very small. You cannot say the same thing for humans.

If all pits and pit mixes were spayed or neutered to be eliminated by attrition, there will be less Pitbulls to be put down. I think that is the best and most humane solution.

I agree with the spaying and neutering and as a responsible owner I have done so but, you never answered what % of pit would be "acceptable" to you. Since the macho guys who abuse animals also breed them I do not see your solution actually working.

How about any percentage over 25% and/or has that rictus grin mouth and the butt crack head.

Former prosecutor here, have prosecuted a number of dangerous dog cases and attended animal abuse conferences and am well educated on the dangers of bully breeds and other breeds that comprise the majority of lethal attacks on humans and other animals.

I am personally strongly anti-pit bull. It happens when you’ve actually seen the autopsy photos of children ripped apart by a pit bull attack. I honestly don’t even ‘get’ the attraction of these dogs, especially the XL models which look exactly like what they are capable of being - killing machines.

All that said, I have mixed feelings about how we eradicate the breed. A few months before the pandemic, having lost my last dog to illness and old age, I adopted a dog from an out of state rescue after searching for border collies and border collie mixes. My dog is a mix, but looks very much like a border collie in terms of size/shape of head/eye color/coat color (border collies come in many colors/patterns, hers fits one of the known variations).

She’s the best dog I’ve ever had, and I’ve had some fantastic dogs. Her behavior aligns closely with border collie behavior. She is velcro, sensitive and super intelligent. She’s also fierce - she once ran off a coyote that entered our yard and approached us at our fire pit - there was a tussle, no blood drawn by either canid but the coyotes have never come into the yard since.

I’m nuts about this dog.

A year or so after she came to live with me, Embark DNA kits went on sale and I had hers done. She is 27.5% border collie - and 30.9% American Pit Bull Terrier. The rest is a mix of Rottweiler, Labrador, German Shepherd Dog and Treeing Walker Coonhound.

She doesn’t have any of the typical physical characteristics of a pit bull, but you can’t deny that’s the majority of her genes. It makes me sick to think of her being euthanized for that, because she’s a fantastic dog - incredibly well behaved, almost never barks, super gentle mouth, very obedient. Everyone who meets her loves her, including people who tell me they’re lukewarm about dogs.

What’s the answer, then?

I should add, that I considered having her DNA done before she was transported to me - she was a few months coming to me from Arkansas because she was heartworm positive and had to have treatment before they would send her.

If I’d known she was 30.9% pit bull then, I likely would have asked for my adoption fee to be transferred to another dog. I live with a kid and I would have feared the pit bull in her. That kid adores the dog, and the dog has never shown any signs of aggression toward any of us - and I’m a person who has studied canine behavior and knows what to look for.

I’m so glad I didn’t get the test done ahead of time.

Pit bull is not the majority of her genes it is 30.9%... I don't think anyone is advocating euthanizing any dog unless they have attacked someone. I think there should be a ban on breeding and all obvious pit bulls should be neutered. It is likely that if you got your dog from a rescue that they are already neutered.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.salon.com/2023/09/08/dog-bites-are-on-the-rise-reports-but-its-unclear-whats-driving-the-trend/

Deadly dog bites are on the rise in the last three years. Gee. Whatever could be the cause of this.

Did you read the article? It doesn't blame the dogs or any specific breed but, the fault is on the humans who don't know how to read dog's clues. So, thanks for making my point!

I did read the article. You might be in denial about what these bred for aggression and reactivity and tenacity blood thirsty dogs are capable of, but unfortunately thousands of dogs and cats and hundreds of people have lost their lives. That’s a fact.

Facts:

https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/pitbull-statistics/

Ahh the good old - and debunked - Animal Temperment Test.

XL Bullies are banned in England. People are seeing through the lies pit bull people tell. People are starting to notice that even sweet family pets just snap and ear some old person. They’ve noticed that “support” animals eat their owner when they’re having a seizure. Too many people have seen videos of attacking pit bulls being hit repeatedly, shot sometimes even, and still out for toddler blood. The jig is up.

You are moving the goal post. We aren't talking about XL bullies

Pit Bulls are banned in the UK along with a couple of other aggressive breeds. XL Pit Bulls are next on the list to be banned.

There are so many dog breeds to choose from. Why choose a pit? I want this breed to be eliminated. All current pits should be spayed or neutered and the breed should die out via attrition.

I would love to see this as well. I have started carrying a handgun as I have seen too many off-leash pits and reckless pit owners even in my UMC neighborhood’s dog park.

It’s unreasonable to ask the general public to be okay with the risk of death or severe damage just so some schmucks can be pit bull owners.

OAN I believe there is something fundamentally wrong with people that seek out these dogs as pets.

I think there is something fundamentally wrong with you that condemns five breeds of dog. I remember when other dogs were the "villians" and now it is pit bulls turn. I am more likely to be killed by a person while in school or movie theatre than a pit bull. Again humans kill more pit bulls and humans than pit bulls do. But, I suppose logic isn't your strong suit.

Can you say logic is not somebody strong suit and you're comparing humans with Pitbulls?Try a I question your logic skills

Your sentence doesn't make any sense. We are talking about our risks in life. Statistically, we are at greater risk from humans than pit bulls. Sorry you don't get it.

You are comparing apples and oranges The poster was talking about eliminating a breed due to its tendency to be more violent than other breeds. And in talking about eliminating the breed, another poster is not talking about killing all pitbull's, but neutering and spaying all pitbull and pitbull mixes so the breed could be eliminated by attrition. Nothing wrong with that suggestion. We don't need more unwanted puppies.

+1
And oh do pit bulls have unwanted puppies. So many puppies.

I’d also be comfortable with pit bulls that bite and maim being put down in addition to neuter and spaying; that’s not a rule anymore. Lots of these “oh he’s a sweet lump of a shelter dog, he’s a couch hippo!” have bite histories, sometimes complex bite histories. The world is not the chew toy of the blood sport dog and since these people insist on bringing their bred for blood sport dogs everywhere they go, we’re all at risk.

What are you smoking? Pit Bulls are the number 1 dogs that are put down. I believe it is about 1 million. You will never fully eliminate any pit because of the mixes. Even if they have 10 percent pit you people are so bloodthirsty that you will kill them too. Again, statistically speaking the chance of you being killed by a pit bull is very small. You cannot say the same thing for humans.

If all pits and pit mixes were spayed or neutered to be eliminated by attrition, there will be less Pitbulls to be put down. I think that is the best and most humane solution.

I agree with the spaying and neutering and as a responsible owner I have done so but, you never answered what % of pit would be "acceptable" to you. Since the macho guys who abuse animals also breed them I do not see your solution actually working.

How about any percentage over 25% and/or has that rictus grin mouth and the butt crack head.

Former prosecutor here, have prosecuted a number of dangerous dog cases and attended animal abuse conferences and am well educated on the dangers of bully breeds and other breeds that comprise the majority of lethal attacks on humans and other animals.

I am personally strongly anti-pit bull. It happens when you’ve actually seen the autopsy photos of children ripped apart by a pit bull attack. I honestly don’t even ‘get’ the attraction of these dogs, especially the XL models which look exactly like what they are capable of being - killing machines.

All that said, I have mixed feelings about how we eradicate the breed. A few months before the pandemic, having lost my last dog to illness and old age, I adopted a dog from an out of state rescue after searching for border collies and border collie mixes. My dog is a mix, but looks very much like a border collie in terms of size/shape of head/eye color/coat color (border collies come in many colors/patterns, hers fits one of the known variations).

She’s the best dog I’ve ever had, and I’ve had some fantastic dogs. Her behavior aligns closely with border collie behavior. She is velcro, sensitive and super intelligent. She’s also fierce - she once ran off a coyote that entered our yard and approached us at our fire pit - there was a tussle, no blood drawn by either canid but the coyotes have never come into the yard since.

I’m nuts about this dog.

A year or so after she came to live with me, Embark DNA kits went on sale and I had hers done. She is 27.5% border collie - and 30.9% American Pit Bull Terrier. The rest is a mix of Rottweiler, Labrador, German Shepherd Dog and Treeing Walker Coonhound.

She doesn’t have any of the typical physical characteristics of a pit bull, but you can’t deny that’s the majority of her genes. It makes me sick to think of her being euthanized for that, because she’s a fantastic dog - incredibly well behaved, almost never barks, super gentle mouth, very obedient. Everyone who meets her loves her, including people who tell me they’re lukewarm about dogs.

What’s the answer, then?

I should add, that I considered having her DNA done before she was transported to me - she was a few months coming to me from Arkansas because she was heartworm positive and had to have treatment before they would send her.

If I’d known she was 30.9% pit bull then, I likely would have asked for my adoption fee to be transferred to another dog. I live with a kid and I would have feared the pit bull in her. That kid adores the dog, and the dog has never shown any signs of aggression toward any of us - and I’m a person who has studied canine behavior and knows what to look for.

I’m so glad I didn’t get the test done ahead of time.

Pit bull is not the majority of her genes it is 30.9%... I don't think anyone is advocating euthanizing any dog unless they have attacked someone. I think there should be a ban on breeding and all obvious pit bulls should be neutered. It is likely that if you got your dog from a rescue that they are already neutered.

She was spayed by the rescue after her three puppies were weaned and adopted out. She had three sons, and I believe they were all neutered prior to adoption per rescue policy.

After doing some research I learned that there is actually a trend in backyard breeding, at least in the south, for dogs called border bulls - border collie pit bull mix. Highest intelligence breed crossed with fiercest fighting breed.