Want to criticize pitbulls? Do it here!

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Anonymous wrote:I am not a dog person, but I can admit that some dogs are really cute, and some are beautiful. A little Yorkie I see with a neighbor, with his sweet, intelligent face, is adorable. The golden retriever who lives down the road, while being super hyper and not an animal I would want to spend much time in direct contact with, is objectively beautiful, and he also has a good-natured face and clearly is great with the kids in his family. I don't know the breed of the other dog I see around regularly, but he's also a beautiful animal. I can see why someone who wants a dog would choose one of these.

But pitbulls are the ugliest dog I have ever seen. I can ony marvel at their hideousness, with the tiny, crazed eyes, giant gash of a mouth with the disgusting liver-lips, and the squat, spread stump-legs and grotesquely muscled neck leading to that disgusting bullet head. Who could possibly love such an ugly animal? They LOOK evil. They just look...wrong. When I see one, I get the same sort of feeling of revulsion I feel when I see a big, gross spider. Truly, they are so ugly.

I agree that they are hideous. My husband's grandfather had one and it was the ugliest dog I've ever seen. Bulging with muscles, covered with super short, sharp hairs that get into everything, beady little eyes, enormous mouth that never closes, and a butt-crack down the middle of its skull. Not only that but it was a horrible pet and attacked anything that moved. How could a shelter give an animal like that to an 80-something man?

Agree, they are so ugly. Putting a flower crown on does not make it better either. People who are obsessed with these disgusting dogs have a few screws loose for sure. Get a nice golden retriever or labrador, or a cute little pomeranian. But a pit bull?? nooo

Every time a clownass like yourself posts this ridiculous nonsense, a pitbull is born that will seek you out to destroy something you love.

Stop the hate before it's too late!

So you admit these nasty dogs are violent and destructive?

This is always a tell with these people. They're the most friendly, wonderful caring dogs out there, but you say you're not a fan and it's a quick pivot to, "my dog will eff you and your dog UP!" The narrative is all over the place. But, "You're a hater?!! Well my dog will kill your dog or toddler!" Like...ok. That's kind of what we want to avoid. AGAIN, give me another dog profile that needs this lobbying.

Hunty, we don't need to lobby. I don't need your approval. Hate a whole breed (5 breeds, actually, not that facts matter to "those people"), if that's what puts a sparkle in your step.

As a pp said: leave us alone. Who the hell are you to dictate what others do, based on your junk opinion and obvious bias? Just mind your own business, I'll mind mine, and everything will be lovely.

DP, but who the hell are you to bring these dogs around other people and their children and pets?

If pits just stayed in their homes and killed their owners we likely wouldn’t care so much, but so many of you insist on treating them like a normal pet and don’t properly barricade them on your property. Then surprise the jump or dig under the fence and maul the next door neighbor’s toddler or the old man taking his afternoon walk or someone’s little yorkie.

Like you said, leave us alone and we’ll leave you alone. But putting other people’s safety at risk because you can’t literally acknowledge the harm they can cause isn’t exactly leaving everyone else alone.

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Anonymous wrote:Earnestly waiting for a reply to this, because none of the supporters seem to be able to look inward and correct what is ultimately an epidemic with no solution except glossy marketing.

"I'll put it this way for you as an anecdote: I was a 20 year shelter volunteer and foster. I've been through the Dobbies. The Rotties. NOTHING prepared me for the Pits, and it's mostly because of people like you who are completely cult-like in your devotion. Also, the Pit epidemic combined with no-kill shelters is basically animal abuse. I don't even like these dogs but it pulls at my heartstrings to see them tossed around from shelter to shelter for years. It's sick. Maybe they were good at one point? 4 years in a cage doesn't help.

Ultimately, if this is your hill to die on, y'all need to clean up your backyard. Because it is messy AF right now with these dogs. You can spit and spat and deflect as much as you want, call others stupid, I don't care. The Golden Retriever community isn't exactly dealing with a similar issue despite the "all dogs bite!" refrain. They're not breeding more than anyone can reasonably handle.

So what are YOU doing to turn this around since everyone else is apparently so ill-informed? Because it's an epidemic at this point."

Imagine being this demanding on an anon board, "earnestly waiting" for someone to take time out of their day and waste it arguing with your drivel.

Nobody cares about your take. It's not nearly as brilliant as you claim, Goldens have all kids of their own problems (but they're not "pit bulls" so you'll just gloss over all of the inbreeding and yes, violence, in that breed). You make ridiculous claims like it's our "hill to die on" when all most of us want is to be left alone with our dogs and allowed to mind our own business without your nosy parker jerk nonsense trying to legislate away our pets based on little more than your ignorant fears.

You have a crap take. That's why nobody's responding. Hold your breath, if you want to keep waiting.

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Anonymous wrote:Earnestly waiting for a reply to this, because none of the supporters seem to be able to look inward and correct what is ultimately an epidemic with no solution except glossy marketing.

"I'll put it this way for you as an anecdote: I was a 20 year shelter volunteer and foster. I've been through the Dobbies. The Rotties. NOTHING prepared me for the Pits, and it's mostly because of people like you who are completely cult-like in your devotion. Also, the Pit epidemic combined with no-kill shelters is basically animal abuse. I don't even like these dogs but it pulls at my heartstrings to see them tossed around from shelter to shelter for years. It's sick. Maybe they were good at one point? 4 years in a cage doesn't help.

Ultimately, if this is your hill to die on, y'all need to clean up your backyard. Because it is messy AF right now with these dogs. You can spit and spat and deflect as much as you want, call others stupid, I don't care. The Golden Retriever community isn't exactly dealing with a similar issue despite the "all dogs bite!" refrain. They're not breeding more than anyone can reasonably handle.

So what are YOU doing to turn this around since everyone else is apparently so ill-informed? Because it's an epidemic at this point."

Imagine being this demanding on an anon board, "earnestly waiting" for someone to take time out of their day and waste it arguing with your drivel.

Nobody cares about your take. It's not nearly as brilliant as you claim, Goldens have all kids of their own problems (but they're not "pit bulls" so you'll just gloss over all of the inbreeding and yes, violence, in that breed). You make ridiculous claims like it's our "hill to die on" when all most of us want is to be left alone with our dogs and allowed to mind our own business without your nosy parker jerk nonsense trying to legislate away our pets based on little more than your ignorant fears.

You have a crap take. That's why nobody's responding. Hold your breath, if you want to keep waiting.

I agree with the PP.

Pit owners sit around and complain about how they and their dogs are discriminated against but the truth is that pits are way overbred, many pits DO have aggression issues (either because they have been bred for it, because the dogs were in fact bred for fighting, or because they were adopted and abandoned by someone who wanted a pit specifically for its aggression and have been abused), and pits have been bred for physical traits that can make them especially dangerous when they are aggressive. You can't just ignore any of that even if you have a great pit who is well trained.

Goldens have issues but their issues don't pose a danger to other people. Goldens, like a lot of popular pet breeds, have issues largely related to having been inbred for too long. It's good for dog owners to be aware of those issues. But also, the issue of inbreeding weakening gene pools is a well known one for many breeds and breeders have now spent decades looking to correct this issue. So actually the problems with Goldens HAVE been addressed by people who breed and raise them. Whereas you don't see a concerted effort from pit owners to address the issues with the pit breeds.

I get frustrated with the "pit lobby" because the way the overpopulation of pits is handled is by claiming these are just great dogs and everyone should adopt one. That's the stance a lot of shelters take because 90% of the dogs in the shelter are pits or pit mixes and it's the only way they can convince people to take one of these dogs -- by saying there are just no issues associated with pits and it's all a trumped up rumor and actually pits are all loyal and friendly and make terrific pets. And this approach actually only makes the problem worse because it's not true, and it actually leads to people adopting pits and then bringing them back to the shelter when they realize that actually pits are not a universally perfect pet.

If you want to advocate for pits, then you should have an answer for how to address their overpopulation other than "if only pitties weren't discriminated against, all pits would have good homes." Because it's not true. Please notice that Rottweilers and Dobermans can also make good pets for the right people, but you don't see people claiming they are universally perfect dogs for all owners or trying to force them on people like you see with pits. Advocates for those dogs know they aren't for everyone. And also those dogs aren't overpopulated because they haven't been overbred, because there is not a massive culture of keeping those dogs unfixed in order to enhance their aggression -- breeding of rotts and dobbies is pretty selective.

So anyway, I wholeheartedly agree with the PP that people who advocate for pits need to have answers to these questions.

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Pit bulls that end up in shelter ought to be euthanized. We could end this problem real quick.

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Anonymous wrote:Pit bulls that end up in shelter ought to be euthanized. We could end this problem real quick.

Euthanizing all pitbulls in shelters is like treating runny nose with guillotine - won't do almost nothing to pit overpopulation
What's needed is spay/neutering of household dogs and more robust measures to stop backyard breeding.
Oh, and adopt don't shop (as it cuts money out of backyard breeding).
But vilifying pitbulls and their owners apparently is much more interesting then actually doing something

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Anonymous wrote:Earnestly waiting for a reply to this, because none of the supporters seem to be able to look inward and correct what is ultimately an epidemic with no solution except glossy marketing.

"I'll put it this way for you as an anecdote: I was a 20 year shelter volunteer and foster. I've been through the Dobbies. The Rotties. NOTHING prepared me for the Pits, and it's mostly because of people like you who are completely cult-like in your devotion. Also, the Pit epidemic combined with no-kill shelters is basically animal abuse. I don't even like these dogs but it pulls at my heartstrings to see them tossed around from shelter to shelter for years. It's sick. Maybe they were good at one point? 4 years in a cage doesn't help.

Ultimately, if this is your hill to die on, y'all need to clean up your backyard. Because it is messy AF right now with these dogs. You can spit and spat and deflect as much as you want, call others stupid, I don't care. The Golden Retriever community isn't exactly dealing with a similar issue despite the "all dogs bite!" refrain. They're not breeding more than anyone can reasonably handle.

So what are YOU doing to turn this around since everyone else is apparently so ill-informed? Because it's an epidemic at this point."

Imagine being this demanding on an anon board, "earnestly waiting" for someone to take time out of their day and waste it arguing with your drivel.

Nobody cares about your take. It's not nearly as brilliant as you claim, Goldens have all kids of their own problems (but they're not "pit bulls" so you'll just gloss over all of the inbreeding and yes, violence, in that breed). You make ridiculous claims like it's our "hill to die on" when all most of us want is to be left alone with our dogs and allowed to mind our own business without your nosy parker jerk nonsense trying to legislate away our pets based on little more than your ignorant fears.

You have a crap take. That's why nobody's responding. Hold your breath, if you want to keep waiting.

I agree with the PP.

Pit owners sit around and complain about how they and their dogs are discriminated against but the truth is that pits are way overbred, many pits DO have aggression issues (either because they have been bred for it, because the dogs were in fact bred for fighting, or because they were adopted and abandoned by someone who wanted a pit specifically for its aggression and have been abused), and pits have been bred for physical traits that can make them especially dangerous when they are aggressive. You can't just ignore any of that even if you have a great pit who is well trained.

Goldens have issues but their issues don't pose a danger to other people. Goldens, like a lot of popular pet breeds, have issues largely related to having been inbred for too long. It's good for dog owners to be aware of those issues. But also, the issue of inbreeding weakening gene pools is a well known one for many breeds and breeders have now spent decades looking to correct this issue. So actually the problems with Goldens HAVE been addressed by people who breed and raise them. Whereas you don't see a concerted effort from pit owners to address the issues with the pit breeds.

I get frustrated with the "pit lobby" because the way the overpopulation of pits is handled is by claiming these are just great dogs and everyone should adopt one. That's the stance a lot of shelters take because 90% of the dogs in the shelter are pits or pit mixes and it's the only way they can convince people to take one of these dogs -- by saying there are just no issues associated with pits and it's all a trumped up rumor and actually pits are all loyal and friendly and make terrific pets. And this approach actually only makes the problem worse because it's not true, and it actually leads to people adopting pits and then bringing them back to the shelter when they realize that actually pits are not a universally perfect pet.

If you want to advocate for pits, then you should have an answer for how to address their overpopulation other than "if only pitties weren't discriminated against, all pits would have good homes." Because it's not true. Please notice that Rottweilers and Dobermans can also make good pets for the right people, but you don't see people claiming they are universally perfect dogs for all owners or trying to force them on people like you see with pits. Advocates for those dogs know they aren't for everyone. And also those dogs aren't overpopulated because they haven't been overbred, because there is not a massive culture of keeping those dogs unfixed in order to enhance their aggression -- breeding of rotts and dobbies is pretty selective.

So anyway, I wholeheartedly agree with the PP that people who advocate for pits need to have answers to these questions.

Agreed. I'm the PP with the grandfather-in-law. Imagine being a shelter worker and a man in his 80s with a cane hobbles in. He says he's lonely, lives alone, lost his beloved dog and wants a new dog to keep him company. He would like one that's not too big so he can walk it.
And you respond "Sorry but we don't have any small dogs so I'm sure you'd be fine with this one! She needs a home so bad, she's been here for months" and bring him a 100 pound boisterous dog. Oh, and you can't walk her because she will attack any other dog she sees. Just let her run around in the backyard! And the man feels sorry for this poor homeless dog and takes her home where she causes him endless grief.

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I’ve grown to appreciate pit bulls and their owners. Once I begin to see them in numbers - I look for new home. They actually should be seen for what they are - as early indications of ‘there goes the neighborhood’

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Anonymous wrote:Earnestly waiting for a reply to this, because none of the supporters seem to be able to look inward and correct what is ultimately an epidemic with no solution except glossy marketing.

"I'll put it this way for you as an anecdote: I was a 20 year shelter volunteer and foster. I've been through the Dobbies. The Rotties. NOTHING prepared me for the Pits, and it's mostly because of people like you who are completely cult-like in your devotion. Also, the Pit epidemic combined with no-kill shelters is basically animal abuse. I don't even like these dogs but it pulls at my heartstrings to see them tossed around from shelter to shelter for years. It's sick. Maybe they were good at one point? 4 years in a cage doesn't help.

Ultimately, if this is your hill to die on, y'all need to clean up your backyard. Because it is messy AF right now with these dogs. You can spit and spat and deflect as much as you want, call others stupid, I don't care. The Golden Retriever community isn't exactly dealing with a similar issue despite the "all dogs bite!" refrain. They're not breeding more than anyone can reasonably handle.

So what are YOU doing to turn this around since everyone else is apparently so ill-informed? Because it's an epidemic at this point."

Imagine being this demanding on an anon board, "earnestly waiting" for someone to take time out of their day and waste it arguing with your drivel.

Nobody cares about your take. It's not nearly as brilliant as you claim, Goldens have all kids of their own problems (but they're not "pit bulls" so you'll just gloss over all of the inbreeding and yes, violence, in that breed). You make ridiculous claims like it's our "hill to die on" when all most of us want is to be left alone with our dogs and allowed to mind our own business without your nosy parker jerk nonsense trying to legislate away our pets based on little more than your ignorant fears.

You have a crap take. That's why nobody's responding. Hold your breath, if you want to keep waiting.

I agree with the PP.

Pit owners sit around and complain about how they and their dogs are discriminated against but the truth is that pits are way overbred, many pits DO have aggression issues (either because they have been bred for it, because the dogs were in fact bred for fighting, or because they were adopted and abandoned by someone who wanted a pit specifically for its aggression and have been abused), and pits have been bred for physical traits that can make them especially dangerous when they are aggressive. You can't just ignore any of that even if you have a great pit who is well trained.

Goldens have issues but their issues don't pose a danger to other people. Goldens, like a lot of popular pet breeds, have issues largely related to having been inbred for too long. It's good for dog owners to be aware of those issues. But also, the issue of inbreeding weakening gene pools is a well known one for many breeds and breeders have now spent decades looking to correct this issue. So actually the problems with Goldens HAVE been addressed by people who breed and raise them. Whereas you don't see a concerted effort from pit owners to address the issues with the pit breeds.

I get frustrated with the "pit lobby" because the way the overpopulation of pits is handled is by claiming these are just great dogs and everyone should adopt one. That's the stance a lot of shelters take because 90% of the dogs in the shelter are pits or pit mixes and it's the only way they can convince people to take one of these dogs -- by saying there are just no issues associated with pits and it's all a trumped up rumor and actually pits are all loyal and friendly and make terrific pets. And this approach actually only makes the problem worse because it's not true, and it actually leads to people adopting pits and then bringing them back to the shelter when they realize that actually pits are not a universally perfect pet.

If you want to advocate for pits, then you should have an answer for how to address their overpopulation other than "if only pitties weren't discriminated against, all pits would have good homes." Because it's not true. Please notice that Rottweilers and Dobermans can also make good pets for the right people, but you don't see people claiming they are universally perfect dogs for all owners or trying to force them on people like you see with pits. Advocates for those dogs know they aren't for everyone. And also those dogs aren't overpopulated because they haven't been overbred, because there is not a massive culture of keeping those dogs unfixed in order to enhance their aggression -- breeding of rotts and dobbies is pretty selective.

So anyway, I wholeheartedly agree with the PP that people who advocate for pits need to have answers to these questions.

Agreed. I'm the PP with the grandfather-in-law. Imagine being a shelter worker and a man in his 80s with a cane hobbles in. He says he's lonely, lives alone, lost his beloved dog and wants a new dog to keep him company. He would like one that's not too big so he can walk it.
And you respond "Sorry but we don't have any small dogs so I'm sure you'd be fine with this one! She needs a home so bad, she's been here for months" and bring him a 100 pound boisterous dog. Oh, and you can't walk her because she will attack any other dog she sees. Just let her run around in the backyard! And the man feels sorry for this poor homeless dog and takes her home where she causes him endless grief.

Imagine being this much of a victim in your life. Listen, if your gramps is too old to make reasonable decisions for himself, maybe you should've gotten him a caregiver instead of letting him get a dog? Y'all put all the responsibility on volunteer shelter workers, like the people adopting these dogs don't have a choice.

No shelter worker brought a 100-pound dog to the retirement home for an adopt-a-pup event. Maybe if the people wanting a dog would do the responsible thing and really consider what they understood about dogs and were capable of handling, dogs would find more stable, permanent, appropriate homes. Instead, y'all waltz into a volunteer-run organization wanting to walk out with a dog, get one, and then blame the shelter for not perfectly training your pet for you.

Everyone's a victim, and you'll blame the dog, but you're all adults. Where are you decisionmaking skills? What are you responsible for in this story?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve grown to appreciate pit bulls and their owners. Once I begin to see them in numbers - I look for new home. They actually should be seen for what they are - as early indications of ‘there goes the neighborhood’

If only this worked!

I would adopt a new "pit bull" every Friday if it meant keeping the nosy parker, judgy judy, ignorant busybodies the eff out of my neighborhood.

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Goldens have issues but their issues don't pose a danger to other people. Goldens, like a lot of popular pet breeds, have issues largely related to having been inbred for too long. It's good for dog owners to be aware of those issues. But also, the issue of inbreeding weakening gene pools is a well known one for many breeds and breeders have now spent decades looking to correct this issue. So actually the problems with Goldens HAVE been addressed by people who breed and raise them.

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So anyway, I wholeheartedly agree with the PP that people who advocate for pits need to have answers to these questions.

Goldens haven't been properly bred for temperament for decades, a lot of them are absolutely psychotic, and they very much DO pose a danger to other people. If you're too ignorant to be aware of that, while using them as your "golden example", there's no point in correcting the rest of your craptastic take.

And that's also highlighted by your close. People don't have to advocate for pits. Pits are allowed. Sorry you don't like it. Move somewhere else.

I don't have to have answers for you. You get to leave me and my dog(s) the eff alone at all times unless invited to engage. Period.

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Goldens have issues but their issues don't pose a danger to other people. Goldens, like a lot of popular pet breeds, have issues largely related to having been inbred for too long. It's good for dog owners to be aware of those issues. But also, the issue of inbreeding weakening gene pools is a well known one for many breeds and breeders have now spent decades looking to correct this issue. So actually the problems with Goldens HAVE been addressed by people who breed and raise them.

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So anyway, I wholeheartedly agree with the PP that people who advocate for pits need to have answers to these questions.

Goldens haven't been properly bred for temperament for decades, a lot of them are absolutely psychotic, and they very much DO pose a danger to other people. If you're too ignorant to be aware of that, while using them as your "golden example", there's no point in correcting the rest of your craptastic take.

And that's also highlighted by your close. People don't have to advocate for pits. Pits are allowed. Sorry you don't like it. Move somewhere else.

I don't have to have answers for you. You get to leave me and my dog(s) the eff alone at all times unless invited to engage. Period.

Sure, sweet little pitties are nanny dogs and a lot of goldens are psychotic and dangerous, lol. 😂 You live in a bizzaro alternate reality.

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Goldens have issues but their issues don't pose a danger to other people. Goldens, like a lot of popular pet breeds, have issues largely related to having been inbred for too long. It's good for dog owners to be aware of those issues. But also, the issue of inbreeding weakening gene pools is a well known one for many breeds and breeders have now spent decades looking to correct this issue. So actually the problems with Goldens HAVE been addressed by people who breed and raise them.

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So anyway, I wholeheartedly agree with the PP that people who advocate for pits need to have answers to these questions.

Goldens haven't been properly bred for temperament for decades, a lot of them are absolutely psychotic, and they very much DO pose a danger to other people. If you're too ignorant to be aware of that, while using them as your "golden example", there's no point in correcting the rest of your craptastic take.

And that's also highlighted by your close. People don't have to advocate for pits. Pits are allowed. Sorry you don't like it. Move somewhere else.

I don't have to have answers for you. You get to leave me and my dog(s) the eff alone at all times unless invited to engage. Period.

Sure, sweet little pitties are nanny dogs and a lot of goldens are psychotic and dangerous, lol. 😂 You live in a bizzaro alternate reality.

Truly. Pack of 8 Goldens running towards my kids or 8 pitbulls? It's not even a question which one I pick in a split second decision. "I pick the pits" is a bold and stupid take.

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Goldens have issues but their issues don't pose a danger to other people. Goldens, like a lot of popular pet breeds, have issues largely related to having been inbred for too long. It's good for dog owners to be aware of those issues. But also, the issue of inbreeding weakening gene pools is a well known one for many breeds and breeders have now spent decades looking to correct this issue. So actually the problems with Goldens HAVE been addressed by people who breed and raise them.

...

So anyway, I wholeheartedly agree with the PP that people who advocate for pits need to have answers to these questions.

Goldens haven't been properly bred for temperament for decades, a lot of them are absolutely psychotic, and they very much DO pose a danger to other people. If you're too ignorant to be aware of that, while using them as your "golden example", there's no point in correcting the rest of your craptastic take.

And that's also highlighted by your close. People don't have to advocate for pits. Pits are allowed. Sorry you don't like it. Move somewhere else.

I don't have to have answers for you. You get to leave me and my dog(s) the eff alone at all times unless invited to engage. Period.

Sure, sweet little pitties are nanny dogs and a lot of goldens are psychotic and dangerous, lol. 😂 You live in a bizzaro alternate reality.

Thank you for stating this so succinctly.

Anyone defending pits by arguing golden retrievers are the *real* problem is not to be taken seriously.

[Anonymous]

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Goldens have issues but their issues don't pose a danger to other people. Goldens, like a lot of popular pet breeds, have issues largely related to having been inbred for too long. It's good for dog owners to be aware of those issues. But also, the issue of inbreeding weakening gene pools is a well known one for many breeds and breeders have now spent decades looking to correct this issue. So actually the problems with Goldens HAVE been addressed by people who breed and raise them.

...

So anyway, I wholeheartedly agree with the PP that people who advocate for pits need to have answers to these questions.

Goldens haven't been properly bred for temperament for decades, a lot of them are absolutely psychotic, and they very much DO pose a danger to other people. If you're too ignorant to be aware of that, while using them as your "golden example", there's no point in correcting the rest of your craptastic take.

And that's also highlighted by your close. People don't have to advocate for pits. Pits are allowed. Sorry you don't like it. Move somewhere else.

I don't have to have answers for you. You get to leave me and my dog(s) the eff alone at all times unless invited to engage. Period.

Sure, sweet little pitties are nanny dogs and a lot of goldens are psychotic and dangerous, lol. 😂 You live in a bizzaro alternate reality.

Truly. Pack of 8 Goldens running towards my kids or 8 pitbulls? It's not even a question which one I pick in a split second decision. "I pick the pits" is a bold and stupid take.

How about neither, since neither happened, ever?

There's no point in discussing even the idea of "pit bulls" with some of you, because you say idiotic stuff like this and think it's an argument I should invest my time helping you unfsck. Be mental, if it suits you. So long as you leave me and mine alone, you'll be fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Goldens have issues but their issues don't pose a danger to other people. Goldens, like a lot of popular pet breeds, have issues largely related to having been inbred for too long. It's good for dog owners to be aware of those issues. But also, the issue of inbreeding weakening gene pools is a well known one for many breeds and breeders have now spent decades looking to correct this issue. So actually the problems with Goldens HAVE been addressed by people who breed and raise them.

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So anyway, I wholeheartedly agree with the PP that people who advocate for pits need to have answers to these questions.

Goldens haven't been properly bred for temperament for decades, a lot of them are absolutely psychotic, and they very much DO pose a danger to other people. If you're too ignorant to be aware of that, while using them as your "golden example", there's no point in correcting the rest of your craptastic take.

And that's also highlighted by your close. People don't have to advocate for pits. Pits are allowed. Sorry you don't like it. Move somewhere else.

I don't have to have answers for you. You get to leave me and my dog(s) the eff alone at all times unless invited to engage. Period.

Sure, sweet little pitties are nanny dogs and a lot of goldens are psychotic and dangerous, lol. 😂 You live in a bizzaro alternate reality.

Thank you for stating this so succinctly.

Anyone defending pits by arguing golden retrievers are the *real* problem is not to be taken seriously.

And your flying monkeys believe you. You can't read, nobody's making that argument, someone made the point upthread that goldens are somehow magical dogs, and they're not (either) because there is no magical breed of dogs that doesn't bite.