DP, but who the hell are you to bring these dogs around other people and their children and pets? If pits just stayed in their homes and killed their owners we likely wouldn’t care so much, but so many of you insist on treating them like a normal pet and don’t properly barricade them on your property. Then surprise the jump or dig under the fence and maul the next door neighbor’s toddler or the old man taking his afternoon walk or someone’s little yorkie. Like you said, leave us alone and we’ll leave you alone. But putting other people’s safety at risk because you can’t literally acknowledge the harm they can cause isn’t exactly leaving everyone else alone. |
Imagine being this demanding on an anon board, "earnestly waiting" for someone to take time out of their day and waste it arguing with your drivel. Nobody cares about your take. It's not nearly as brilliant as you claim, Goldens have all kids of their own problems (but they're not "pit bulls" so you'll just gloss over all of the inbreeding and yes, violence, in that breed). You make ridiculous claims like it's our "hill to die on" when all most of us want is to be left alone with our dogs and allowed to mind our own business without your nosy parker jerk nonsense trying to legislate away our pets based on little more than your ignorant fears. You have a crap take. That's why nobody's responding. Hold your breath, if you want to keep waiting. |
I agree with the PP. Pit owners sit around and complain about how they and their dogs are discriminated against but the truth is that pits are way overbred, many pits DO have aggression issues (either because they have been bred for it, because the dogs were in fact bred for fighting, or because they were adopted and abandoned by someone who wanted a pit specifically for its aggression and have been abused), and pits have been bred for physical traits that can make them especially dangerous when they are aggressive. You can't just ignore any of that even if you have a great pit who is well trained. Goldens have issues but their issues don't pose a danger to other people. Goldens, like a lot of popular pet breeds, have issues largely related to having been inbred for too long. It's good for dog owners to be aware of those issues. But also, the issue of inbreeding weakening gene pools is a well known one for many breeds and breeders have now spent decades looking to correct this issue. So actually the problems with Goldens HAVE been addressed by people who breed and raise them. Whereas you don't see a concerted effort from pit owners to address the issues with the pit breeds. I get frustrated with the "pit lobby" because the way the overpopulation of pits is handled is by claiming these are just great dogs and everyone should adopt one. That's the stance a lot of shelters take because 90% of the dogs in the shelter are pits or pit mixes and it's the only way they can convince people to take one of these dogs -- by saying there are just no issues associated with pits and it's all a trumped up rumor and actually pits are all loyal and friendly and make terrific pets. And this approach actually only makes the problem worse because it's not true, and it actually leads to people adopting pits and then bringing them back to the shelter when they realize that actually pits are not a universally perfect pet. If you want to advocate for pits, then you should have an answer for how to address their overpopulation other than "if only pitties weren't discriminated against, all pits would have good homes." Because it's not true. Please notice that Rottweilers and Dobermans can also make good pets for the right people, but you don't see people claiming they are universally perfect dogs for all owners or trying to force them on people like you see with pits. Advocates for those dogs know they aren't for everyone. And also those dogs aren't overpopulated because they haven't been overbred, because there is not a massive culture of keeping those dogs unfixed in order to enhance their aggression -- breeding of rotts and dobbies is pretty selective. So anyway, I wholeheartedly agree with the PP that people who advocate for pits need to have answers to these questions. |
Pit bulls that end up in shelter ought to be euthanized. We could end this problem real quick. |
Euthanizing all pitbulls in shelters is like treating runny nose with guillotine - won't do almost nothing to pit overpopulation What's needed is spay/neutering of household dogs and more robust measures to stop backyard breeding. Oh, and adopt don't shop (as it cuts money out of backyard breeding). But vilifying pitbulls and their owners apparently is much more interesting then actually doing something |
Agreed. I'm the PP with the grandfather-in-law. Imagine being a shelter worker and a man in his 80s with a cane hobbles in. He says he's lonely, lives alone, lost his beloved dog and wants a new dog to keep him company. He would like one that's not too big so he can walk it. And you respond "Sorry but we don't have any small dogs so I'm sure you'd be fine with this one! She needs a home so bad, she's been here for months" and bring him a 100 pound boisterous dog. Oh, and you can't walk her because she will attack any other dog she sees. Just let her run around in the backyard! And the man feels sorry for this poor homeless dog and takes her home where she causes him endless grief. |
I’ve grown to appreciate pit bulls and their owners. Once I begin to see them in numbers - I look for new home. They actually should be seen for what they are - as early indications of ‘there goes the neighborhood’ |
Imagine being this much of a victim in your life. ![]() No shelter worker brought a 100-pound dog to the retirement home for an adopt-a-pup event. Maybe if the people wanting a dog would do the responsible thing and really consider what they understood about dogs and were capable of handling, dogs would find more stable, permanent, appropriate homes. Instead, y'all waltz into a volunteer-run organization wanting to walk out with a dog, get one, and then blame the shelter for not perfectly training your pet for you. Everyone's a victim, and you'll blame the dog, but you're all adults. Where are you decisionmaking skills? What are you responsible for in this story? |
If only this worked! ![]() ![]() ![]() I would adopt a new "pit bull" every Friday if it meant keeping the nosy parker, judgy judy, ignorant busybodies the eff out of my neighborhood. |
Goldens haven't been properly bred for temperament for decades, a lot of them are absolutely psychotic, and they very much DO pose a danger to other people. If you're too ignorant to be aware of that, while using them as your "golden example", there's no point in correcting the rest of your craptastic take. And that's also highlighted by your close. People don't have to advocate for pits. Pits are allowed. Sorry you don't like it. Move somewhere else. I don't have to have answers for you. You get to leave me and my dog(s) the eff alone at all times unless invited to engage. Period. |
Sure, sweet little pitties are nanny dogs and a lot of goldens are psychotic and dangerous, lol. 😂 You live in a bizzaro alternate reality. |
Truly. Pack of 8 Goldens running towards my kids or 8 pitbulls? It's not even a question which one I pick in a split second decision. "I pick the pits" is a bold and stupid take. |
Thank you for stating this so succinctly. Anyone defending pits by arguing golden retrievers are the *real* problem is not to be taken seriously. |
How about neither, since neither happened, ever? ![]() ![]() ![]() There's no point in discussing even the idea of "pit bulls" with some of you, because you say idiotic stuff like this and think it's an argument I should invest my time helping you unfsck. Be mental, if it suits you. So long as you leave me and mine alone, you'll be fine. |
And your flying monkeys believe you. You can't read, nobody's making that argument, someone made the point upthread that goldens are somehow magical dogs, and they're not (either) because there is no magical breed of dogs that doesn't bite. |