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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Earnestly waiting for a reply to this, because none of the supporters seem to be able to look inward and correct what is ultimately an epidemic with no solution except glossy marketing.

"I'll put it this way for you as an anecdote: I was a 20 year shelter volunteer and foster. I've been through the Dobbies. The Rotties. NOTHING prepared me for the Pits, and it's mostly because of people like you who are completely cult-like in your devotion. Also, the Pit epidemic combined with no-kill shelters is basically animal abuse. I don't even like these dogs but it pulls at my heartstrings to see them tossed around from shelter to shelter for years. It's sick. Maybe they were good at one point? 4 years in a cage doesn't help.

Ultimately, if this is your hill to die on, y'all need to clean up your backyard. Because it is messy AF right now with these dogs. You can spit and spat and deflect as much as you want, call others stupid, I don't care. The Golden Retriever community isn't exactly dealing with a similar issue despite the "all dogs bite!" refrain. They're not breeding more than anyone can reasonably handle.

So what are YOU doing to turn this around since everyone else is apparently so ill-informed? Because it's an epidemic at this point."

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Imagine being this demanding on an anon board, "earnestly waiting" for someone to take time out of their day and waste it arguing with your drivel.

Nobody cares about your take. It's not nearly as brilliant as you claim, Goldens have all kids of their own problems (but they're not "pit bulls" so you'll just gloss over all of the inbreeding and yes, violence, in that breed). You make ridiculous claims like it's our "hill to die on" when all most of us want is to be left alone with our dogs and allowed to mind our own business without your nosy parker jerk nonsense trying to legislate away our pets based on little more than your ignorant fears.

You have a crap take. That's why nobody's responding. Hold your breath, if you want to keep waiting. [/quote]

I agree with the PP.

Pit owners sit around and complain about how they and their dogs are discriminated against but the truth is that pits are way overbred, many pits DO have aggression issues (either because they have been bred for it, because the dogs were in fact bred for fighting, or because they were adopted and abandoned by someone who wanted a pit specifically for its aggression and have been abused), and pits have been bred for physical traits that can make them especially dangerous when they are aggressive. You can't just ignore any of that even if you have a great pit who is well trained.

Goldens have issues but their issues don't pose a danger to other people. Goldens, like a lot of popular pet breeds, have issues largely related to having been inbred for too long. It's good for dog owners to be aware of those issues. But also, the issue of inbreeding weakening gene pools is a well known one for many breeds and breeders have now spent decades looking to correct this issue. So actually the problems with Goldens HAVE been addressed by people who breed and raise them. Whereas you don't see a concerted effort from pit owners to address the issues with the pit breeds.

I get frustrated with the "pit lobby" because the way the overpopulation of pits is handled is by claiming these are just great dogs and everyone should adopt one. That's the stance a lot of shelters take because 90% of the dogs in the shelter are pits or pit mixes and it's the only way they can convince people to take one of these dogs -- by saying there are just no issues associated with pits and it's all a trumped up rumor and actually pits are all loyal and friendly and make terrific pets. And this approach actually only makes the problem worse because it's not true, and it actually leads to people adopting pits and then bringing them back to the shelter when they realize that actually pits are not a universally perfect pet.

If you want to advocate for pits, then you should have an answer for how to address their overpopulation other than "if only pitties weren't discriminated against, all pits would have good homes." Because it's not true. Please notice that Rottweilers and Dobermans can also make good pets for the right people, but you don't see people claiming they are universally perfect dogs for all owners or trying to force them on people like you see with pits. Advocates for those dogs know they aren't for everyone. And also those dogs aren't overpopulated because they haven't been overbred, because there is not a massive culture of keeping those dogs unfixed in order to enhance their aggression -- breeding of rotts and dobbies is pretty selective.

So anyway, I wholeheartedly agree with the PP that people who advocate for pits need to have answers to these questions.[/quote]

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