Want to criticize pitbulls? Do it here!

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Anonymous wrote:I am not a dog person, but I can admit that some dogs are really cute, and some are beautiful. A little Yorkie I see with a neighbor, with his sweet, intelligent face, is adorable. The golden retriever who lives down the road, while being super hyper and not an animal I would want to spend much time in direct contact with, is objectively beautiful, and he also has a good-natured face and clearly is great with the kids in his family. I don't know the breed of the other dog I see around regularly, but he's also a beautiful animal. I can see why someone who wants a dog would choose one of these.

But pitbulls are the ugliest dog I have ever seen. I can ony marvel at their hideousness, with the tiny, crazed eyes, giant gash of a mouth with the disgusting liver-lips, and the squat, spread stump-legs and grotesquely muscled neck leading to that disgusting bullet head. Who could possibly love such an ugly animal? They LOOK evil. They just look...wrong. When I see one, I get the same sort of feeling of revulsion I feel when I see a big, gross spider. Truly, they are so ugly.

I agree that they are hideous. My husband's grandfather had one and it was the ugliest dog I've ever seen. Bulging with muscles, covered with super short, sharp hairs that get into everything, beady little eyes, enormous mouth that never closes, and a butt-crack down the middle of its skull. Not only that but it was a horrible pet and attacked anything that moved. How could a shelter give an animal like that to an 80-something man?

Agree, they are so ugly. Putting a flower crown on does not make it better either. People who are obsessed with these disgusting dogs have a few screws loose for sure. Get a nice golden retriever or labrador, or a cute little pomeranian. But a pit bull?? nooo

Every time a clownass like yourself posts this ridiculous nonsense, a pitbull is born that will seek you out to destroy something you love.

Stop the hate before it's too late!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not a dog person, but I can admit that some dogs are really cute, and some are beautiful. A little Yorkie I see with a neighbor, with his sweet, intelligent face, is adorable. The golden retriever who lives down the road, while being super hyper and not an animal I would want to spend much time in direct contact with, is objectively beautiful, and he also has a good-natured face and clearly is great with the kids in his family. I don't know the breed of the other dog I see around regularly, but he's also a beautiful animal. I can see why someone who wants a dog would choose one of these.

But pitbulls are the ugliest dog I have ever seen. I can ony marvel at their hideousness, with the tiny, crazed eyes, giant gash of a mouth with the disgusting liver-lips, and the squat, spread stump-legs and grotesquely muscled neck leading to that disgusting bullet head. Who could possibly love such an ugly animal? They LOOK evil. They just look...wrong. When I see one, I get the same sort of feeling of revulsion I feel when I see a big, gross spider. Truly, they are so ugly.

I agree that they are hideous. My husband's grandfather had one and it was the ugliest dog I've ever seen. Bulging with muscles, covered with super short, sharp hairs that get into everything, beady little eyes, enormous mouth that never closes, and a butt-crack down the middle of its skull. Not only that but it was a horrible pet and attacked anything that moved. How could a shelter give an animal like that to an 80-something man?

Agree, they are so ugly. Putting a flower crown on does not make it better either. People who are obsessed with these disgusting dogs have a few screws loose for sure. Get a nice golden retriever or labrador, or a cute little pomeranian. But a pit bull?? nooo

Every time a clownass like yourself posts this ridiculous nonsense, a pitbull is born that will seek you out to destroy something you love.

Stop the hate before it's too late!

So you admit these nasty dogs are violent and destructive?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They're ugly.

True

[Anonymous]

Neuter these dogs! Can’t adopt a dog that isn’t a pit

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The type of people who own pit bulls are always the worst kind of dog owners.
I am not a dog person. I don't particularly like dogs of any breed and I can list on one hand the dogs I've really enjoyed in my life. The vast majority of dog owners are fine with this and don't push their dogs on me.
But pit bull people? They cannot deal with anyone on earth not being in love with their dog. Encouraging the dog to lick, jump on, sit on the lap of people who want nothing to do with it.
I don't want kisses from your dog. I don't want to give treats to your dog. I don't want to "make friends" with your dog. I want your dog to behave in public without making a nuisance of itself. Pitbull people are always the worst offenders.

This is so true. They have something to prove. Related, they're some of the worst offenders in letting their dogs offleash to run up to you and potentially your dog with the, "he's friendly!!!"

This thread is so stupid. One post about how people buy them for their aggression, the next, saying pit owners are the most likely to let their dogs off leash...

Y'all are just full of nonsense at this point. The only fact on this thread is this: stupid people can be easily convinced to hate entire breeds, without actual facts or statistics.

This isn't news. This wasn't news 30 years ago either.

The facts and statistics have been provided at length, but you're a 'nutter who deep in the bully cult so you can't see clearly.

I'll put it this way for you as an anecdote: I was a 20 year shelter volunteer and foster. I've been through the Dobbies. The Rotties. NOTHING prepared me for the Pits, and it's mostly because of people like you who are completely cult-like in your devotion. Also, the Pit epidemic combined with no-kill shelters is basically animal abuse. I don't even like these dogs but it pulls at my heartstrings to see them tossed around from shelter to shelter for years. It's sick. Maybe they were good at one point? 4 years in a cage doesn't help.

Ultimately, if this is your hill to die on, y'all need to clean up your backyard. Because it is messy AF right now with these dogs. You can spit and spat and deflect as much as you want, call others stupid, I don't care. The Golden Retriever community isn't exactly dealing with a similar issue despite the "all dogs bite!" refrain. They're not breeding more than anyone can reasonably handle.

So what are YOU doing to turn this around since everyone else is apparently so ill-informed? Because it's an epidemic at this point.

They most certainly have not, or you'd cite them. I've asked, and no facts have been provided, just screeds and rants and clickbait "news" links and defensive posturing from people who use the word "nutter" to describe the people they're trying to convince.

NP. What’s your story, PP? Why are you such a defender of the breed (or 5 breeds, as you like to repeat)? The posters you are attacking all make sensible points.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Neuter these dogs! Can’t adopt a dog that isn’t a pit

You sure can, there are plenty non-pit dogs up for adoption, but you probably won't want them either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not a dog person, but I can admit that some dogs are really cute, and some are beautiful. A little Yorkie I see with a neighbor, with his sweet, intelligent face, is adorable. The golden retriever who lives down the road, while being super hyper and not an animal I would want to spend much time in direct contact with, is objectively beautiful, and he also has a good-natured face and clearly is great with the kids in his family. I don't know the breed of the other dog I see around regularly, but he's also a beautiful animal. I can see why someone who wants a dog would choose one of these.

But pitbulls are the ugliest dog I have ever seen. I can ony marvel at their hideousness, with the tiny, crazed eyes, giant gash of a mouth with the disgusting liver-lips, and the squat, spread stump-legs and grotesquely muscled neck leading to that disgusting bullet head. Who could possibly love such an ugly animal? They LOOK evil. They just look...wrong. When I see one, I get the same sort of feeling of revulsion I feel when I see a big, gross spider. Truly, they are so ugly.

I agree that they are hideous. My husband's grandfather had one and it was the ugliest dog I've ever seen. Bulging with muscles, covered with super short, sharp hairs that get into everything, beady little eyes, enormous mouth that never closes, and a butt-crack down the middle of its skull. Not only that but it was a horrible pet and attacked anything that moved. How could a shelter give an animal like that to an 80-something man?

Agree, they are so ugly. Putting a flower crown on does not make it better either. People who are obsessed with these disgusting dogs have a few screws loose for sure. Get a nice golden retriever or labrador, or a cute little pomeranian. But a pit bull?? nooo

Every time a clownass like yourself posts this ridiculous nonsense, a pitbull is born that will seek you out to destroy something you love.

Stop the hate before it's too late!

So you admit these nasty dogs are violent and destructive?

This is always a tell with these people. They're the most friendly, wonderful caring dogs out there, but you say you're not a fan and it's a quick pivot to, "my dog will eff you and your dog UP!" The narrative is all over the place. But, "You're a hater?!! Well my dog will kill your dog or toddler!" Like...ok. That's kind of what we want to avoid. AGAIN, give me another dog profile that needs this lobbying.

[Anonymous]

Earnestly waiting for a reply to this, because none of the supporters seem to be able to look inward and correct what is ultimately an epidemic with no solution except glossy marketing.

"I'll put it this way for you as an anecdote: I was a 20 year shelter volunteer and foster. I've been through the Dobbies. The Rotties. NOTHING prepared me for the Pits, and it's mostly because of people like you who are completely cult-like in your devotion. Also, the Pit epidemic combined with no-kill shelters is basically animal abuse. I don't even like these dogs but it pulls at my heartstrings to see them tossed around from shelter to shelter for years. It's sick. Maybe they were good at one point? 4 years in a cage doesn't help.

Ultimately, if this is your hill to die on, y'all need to clean up your backyard. Because it is messy AF right now with these dogs. You can spit and spat and deflect as much as you want, call others stupid, I don't care. The Golden Retriever community isn't exactly dealing with a similar issue despite the "all dogs bite!" refrain. They're not breeding more than anyone can reasonably handle.

So what are YOU doing to turn this around since everyone else is apparently so ill-informed? Because it's an epidemic at this point."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The type of people who own pit bulls are always the worst kind of dog owners.
I am not a dog person. I don't particularly like dogs of any breed and I can list on one hand the dogs I've really enjoyed in my life. The vast majority of dog owners are fine with this and don't push their dogs on me.
But pit bull people? They cannot deal with anyone on earth not being in love with their dog. Encouraging the dog to lick, jump on, sit on the lap of people who want nothing to do with it.
I don't want kisses from your dog. I don't want to give treats to your dog. I don't want to "make friends" with your dog. I want your dog to behave in public without making a nuisance of itself. Pitbull people are always the worst offenders.

I have a pit mix and I do none of what you wrote. I love my dog but, I do not expect you to make friends, kiss it or give treats. Just leave us alone

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why can't we just have an immediate sterilization program? Then the problem would be gone in 15 years.

All these people defending their pits would just as soon adopt doodles and labs from shelters instead. They're only getting pits because the shelters are full of them.

Not a doodle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The type of people who own pit bulls are always the worst kind of dog owners.
I am not a dog person. I don't particularly like dogs of any breed and I can list on one hand the dogs I've really enjoyed in my life. The vast majority of dog owners are fine with this and don't push their dogs on me.
But pit bull people? They cannot deal with anyone on earth not being in love with their dog. Encouraging the dog to lick, jump on, sit on the lap of people who want nothing to do with it.
I don't want kisses from your dog. I don't want to give treats to your dog. I don't want to "make friends" with your dog. I want your dog to behave in public without making a nuisance of itself. Pitbull people are always the worst offenders.

This is so true. They have something to prove. Related, they're some of the worst offenders in letting their dogs offleash to run up to you and potentially your dog with the, "he's friendly!!!"

This thread is so stupid. One post about how people buy them for their aggression, the next, saying pit owners are the most likely to let their dogs off leash...

Y'all are just full of nonsense at this point. The only fact on this thread is this: stupid people can be easily convinced to hate entire breeds, without actual facts or statistics.

This isn't news. This wasn't news 30 years ago either.

The facts and statistics have been provided at length, but you're a 'nutter who deep in the bully cult so you can't see clearly.

I'll put it this way for you as an anecdote: I was a 20 year shelter volunteer and foster. I've been through the Dobbies. The Rotties. NOTHING prepared me for the Pits, and it's mostly because of people like you who are completely cult-like in your devotion. Also, the Pit epidemic combined with no-kill shelters is basically animal abuse. I don't even like these dogs but it pulls at my heartstrings to see them tossed around from shelter to shelter for years. It's sick. Maybe they were good at one point? 4 years in a cage doesn't help.

Ultimately, if this is your hill to die on, y'all need to clean up your backyard. Because it is messy AF right now with these dogs. You can spit and spat and deflect as much as you want, call others stupid, I don't care. The Golden Retriever community isn't exactly dealing with a similar issue despite the "all dogs bite!" refrain. They're not breeding more than anyone can reasonably handle.

So what are YOU doing to turn this around since everyone else is apparently so ill-informed? Because it's an epidemic at this point.

They most certainly have not, or you'd cite them. I've asked, and no facts have been provided, just screeds and rants and clickbait "news" links and defensive posturing from people who use the word "nutter" to describe the people they're trying to convince.

I am the author of the very long post about the history of pit bulls, why they are overbred, and some opinion from me about when it is appropriate (and not) to adopt pits. Here are some informative articles from the ASPCA (not anti-dog and not anti-pet) that are informative and back up what I've written here:

https://www.aspca.org/about-us/aspca-policy-and-position-statements/position-statement-pit-bulls
https://www.aspca.org/investigations-rescue/dogfighting/closer-look-dogfighting#:~:text=Although%20there%20are%20many%20breeds,the%20American%20Pit%20Bull%20Terrier.

I will add that it does not do pit bulls any favors to disregard or deny their history as dogs bred for fighting. One reason shelters are full of pits is that they are more likely than other breeds to be abandoned, due to owners witnessing aggression and not being able to handle it. So if you love pits, you need to be honest about them as a breed so that they end up in homes where people are prepared to handle their behaviors and dispositions. As I mentioned in my prior post, pits should be treated similar to other dogs bred for security, size, jaw strength, and aggression (like dobermans and Rottweilers). All of these dogs can make good pets but they aren't universally good pets for all people. The trouble with pits is that due to overbreeding a lot of shelters try to sell them as a universally great dog for any owner. It backfires because they aren't -- some people have no business adopting pits.

The major issue is that the overbreeding needs to be addressed which is why I absolutely support forced sterilization of all pit bulls except for perhaps a small number of respected breeders. We need to get the oversupply of pits out of the dog population. It's the source of most of these issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not a dog person, but I can admit that some dogs are really cute, and some are beautiful. A little Yorkie I see with a neighbor, with his sweet, intelligent face, is adorable. The golden retriever who lives down the road, while being super hyper and not an animal I would want to spend much time in direct contact with, is objectively beautiful, and he also has a good-natured face and clearly is great with the kids in his family. I don't know the breed of the other dog I see around regularly, but he's also a beautiful animal. I can see why someone who wants a dog would choose one of these.

But pitbulls are the ugliest dog I have ever seen. I can ony marvel at their hideousness, with the tiny, crazed eyes, giant gash of a mouth with the disgusting liver-lips, and the squat, spread stump-legs and grotesquely muscled neck leading to that disgusting bullet head. Who could possibly love such an ugly animal? They LOOK evil. They just look...wrong. When I see one, I get the same sort of feeling of revulsion I feel when I see a big, gross spider. Truly, they are so ugly.

I agree that they are hideous. My husband's grandfather had one and it was the ugliest dog I've ever seen. Bulging with muscles, covered with super short, sharp hairs that get into everything, beady little eyes, enormous mouth that never closes, and a butt-crack down the middle of its skull. Not only that but it was a horrible pet and attacked anything that moved. How could a shelter give an animal like that to an 80-something man?

Agree, they are so ugly. Putting a flower crown on does not make it better either. People who are obsessed with these disgusting dogs have a few screws loose for sure. Get a nice golden retriever or labrador, or a cute little pomeranian. But a pit bull?? nooo

Every time a clownass like yourself posts this ridiculous nonsense, a pitbull is born that will seek you out to destroy something you love.

Stop the hate before it's too late!

So you admit these nasty dogs are violent and destructive?

Sweetie, you showed long ago that there's no point in trying to have a sensible conversation. You're not interested in learning what you don't know. You've made up your mind.

Okay. Be ignorant. Enjoy your day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The type of people who own pit bulls are always the worst kind of dog owners.
I am not a dog person. I don't particularly like dogs of any breed and I can list on one hand the dogs I've really enjoyed in my life. The vast majority of dog owners are fine with this and don't push their dogs on me.
But pit bull people? They cannot deal with anyone on earth not being in love with their dog. Encouraging the dog to lick, jump on, sit on the lap of people who want nothing to do with it.
I don't want kisses from your dog. I don't want to give treats to your dog. I don't want to "make friends" with your dog. I want your dog to behave in public without making a nuisance of itself. Pitbull people are always the worst offenders.

I have a pit mix and I do none of what you wrote. I love my dog but, I do not expect you to make friends, kiss it or give treats. Just leave us alone

co-signed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not a dog person, but I can admit that some dogs are really cute, and some are beautiful. A little Yorkie I see with a neighbor, with his sweet, intelligent face, is adorable. The golden retriever who lives down the road, while being super hyper and not an animal I would want to spend much time in direct contact with, is objectively beautiful, and he also has a good-natured face and clearly is great with the kids in his family. I don't know the breed of the other dog I see around regularly, but he's also a beautiful animal. I can see why someone who wants a dog would choose one of these.

But pitbulls are the ugliest dog I have ever seen. I can ony marvel at their hideousness, with the tiny, crazed eyes, giant gash of a mouth with the disgusting liver-lips, and the squat, spread stump-legs and grotesquely muscled neck leading to that disgusting bullet head. Who could possibly love such an ugly animal? They LOOK evil. They just look...wrong. When I see one, I get the same sort of feeling of revulsion I feel when I see a big, gross spider. Truly, they are so ugly.

I agree that they are hideous. My husband's grandfather had one and it was the ugliest dog I've ever seen. Bulging with muscles, covered with super short, sharp hairs that get into everything, beady little eyes, enormous mouth that never closes, and a butt-crack down the middle of its skull. Not only that but it was a horrible pet and attacked anything that moved. How could a shelter give an animal like that to an 80-something man?

Agree, they are so ugly. Putting a flower crown on does not make it better either. People who are obsessed with these disgusting dogs have a few screws loose for sure. Get a nice golden retriever or labrador, or a cute little pomeranian. But a pit bull?? nooo

Every time a clownass like yourself posts this ridiculous nonsense, a pitbull is born that will seek you out to destroy something you love.

Stop the hate before it's too late!

So you admit these nasty dogs are violent and destructive?

This is always a tell with these people. They're the most friendly, wonderful caring dogs out there, but you say you're not a fan and it's a quick pivot to, "my dog will eff you and your dog UP!" The narrative is all over the place. But, "You're a hater?!! Well my dog will kill your dog or toddler!" Like...ok. That's kind of what we want to avoid. AGAIN, give me another dog profile that needs this lobbying.

Hunty, we don't need to lobby. I don't need your approval. Hate a whole breed (5 breeds, actually, not that facts matter to "those people"), if that's what puts a sparkle in your step.

As a pp said: leave us alone. Who the hell are you to dictate what others do, based on your junk opinion and obvious bias? Just mind your own business, I'll mind mine, and everything will be lovely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The type of people who own pit bulls are always the worst kind of dog owners.
I am not a dog person. I don't particularly like dogs of any breed and I can list on one hand the dogs I've really enjoyed in my life. The vast majority of dog owners are fine with this and don't push their dogs on me.
But pit bull people? They cannot deal with anyone on earth not being in love with their dog. Encouraging the dog to lick, jump on, sit on the lap of people who want nothing to do with it.
I don't want kisses from your dog. I don't want to give treats to your dog. I don't want to "make friends" with your dog. I want your dog to behave in public without making a nuisance of itself. Pitbull people are always the worst offenders.

This is so true. They have something to prove. Related, they're some of the worst offenders in letting their dogs offleash to run up to you and potentially your dog with the, "he's friendly!!!"

This thread is so stupid. One post about how people buy them for their aggression, the next, saying pit owners are the most likely to let their dogs off leash...

Y'all are just full of nonsense at this point. The only fact on this thread is this: stupid people can be easily convinced to hate entire breeds, without actual facts or statistics.

This isn't news. This wasn't news 30 years ago either.

The facts and statistics have been provided at length, but you're a 'nutter who deep in the bully cult so you can't see clearly.

I'll put it this way for you as an anecdote: I was a 20 year shelter volunteer and foster. I've been through the Dobbies. The Rotties. NOTHING prepared me for the Pits, and it's mostly because of people like you who are completely cult-like in your devotion. Also, the Pit epidemic combined with no-kill shelters is basically animal abuse. I don't even like these dogs but it pulls at my heartstrings to see them tossed around from shelter to shelter for years. It's sick. Maybe they were good at one point? 4 years in a cage doesn't help.

Ultimately, if this is your hill to die on, y'all need to clean up your backyard. Because it is messy AF right now with these dogs. You can spit and spat and deflect as much as you want, call others stupid, I don't care. The Golden Retriever community isn't exactly dealing with a similar issue despite the "all dogs bite!" refrain. They're not breeding more than anyone can reasonably handle.

So what are YOU doing to turn this around since everyone else is apparently so ill-informed? Because it's an epidemic at this point.

They most certainly have not, or you'd cite them. I've asked, and no facts have been provided, just screeds and rants and clickbait "news" links and defensive posturing from people who use the word "nutter" to describe the people they're trying to convince.

I am the author of the very long post about the history of pit bulls, why they are overbred, and some opinion from me about when it is appropriate (and not) to adopt pits. Here are some informative articles from the ASPCA (not anti-dog and not anti-pet) that are informative and back up what I've written here:

https://www.aspca.org/about-us/aspca-policy-and-position-statements/position-statement-pit-bulls
https://www.aspca.org/investigations-rescue/dogfighting/closer-look-dogfighting#:~:text=Although%20there%20are%20many%20breeds,the%20American%20Pit%20Bull%20Terrier.

I will add that it does not do pit bulls any favors to disregard or deny their history as dogs bred for fighting. One reason shelters are full of pits is that they are more likely than other breeds to be abandoned, due to owners witnessing aggression and not being able to handle it. So if you love pits, you need to be honest about them as a breed so that they end up in homes where people are prepared to handle their behaviors and dispositions. As I mentioned in my prior post, pits should be treated similar to other dogs bred for security, size, jaw strength, and aggression (like dobermans and Rottweilers). All of these dogs can make good pets but they aren't universally good pets for all people. The trouble with pits is that due to overbreeding a lot of shelters try to sell them as a universally great dog for any owner. It backfires because they aren't -- some people have no business adopting pits.

The major issue is that the overbreeding needs to be addressed which is why I absolutely support forced sterilization of all pit bulls except for perhaps a small number of respected breeders. We need to get the oversupply of pits out of the dog population. It's the source of most of these issues.

The major issue lately is that some people have no business owning DOGS, of any breed. Some idiot's "friendly" whateverbreed was allowed to run off-leash right up to my dog. It's not my dog's fault she growled and snarled at an ill-trained, off-leash dog, but some people will rush to judge her "because she's a pit". That she didn't bite or maul the idiot's dog (or the idiot) will be completely overlooked by the jerks, who will say some "but she might, next time, pit bulls all 'snap' unexpectedly" because they simply can't comprehend the idea of a decent dog who is also part "pit bull".

This topic will never be as cut-and-dried as the haters want it to be. They will never listen to reason or logic. Some of us get upset that 5 entire breeds of dogs get bans and hatred because people are ignorant, and then we get called all sorts of names for supporting sanity.

And it makes for great clickbait, so TPTB continue to fuel the drama and eat their popcorn. There will be very little changing sides here.