What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?

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Anonymous wrote:Food laden with MSG, salt, dependency on alcohol, sodas, obsession with all things dairy, carbs, inactivity


Oh now we’re blaming MSG? What a joke

You think it’s good for you?


I don't think its bad for me. There is ample evidence that negative health effects from MSG is myth. A myth that originated from racism against asians.
Is MSG safe?

The Cleveland Clinic:

MSG been used as a flavor enhancer in since the early 1900s, but it started to get a bad rap in the late 1960s. Suddenly, MSG was said to be associated with all kinds of health issues, and for a while, it was branded a “toxic” ingredient.

Now, though, most of those myths have been dispelled, and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) says MSG is “generally recognized as safe.” Global food-regulating bodies like the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) and the World Health Organization (WHO) agree.

Still, MSG continues to be a controversial ingredient, in part due to a longstanding stigma against it and a lack of conclusive data about it.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/is-msg-really-harmful/


DP: “generally recognized as safe” is not terribly reassuring. I, personally, view MSG the same way that I view salt. It might be harmless for most people, but making a conscious effort to reduce them in my diet will have way more benefits for me than risks.


GRAS (“generally recognized as safe”) is the designation of tons of food and OTC products, including many plants and herbs; please learn first and comment only after
Anonymous
Read the book the Omnivore's Dilemma and it will answer all your questions.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Food laden with MSG, salt, dependency on alcohol, sodas, obsession with all things dairy, carbs, inactivity


Oh now we’re blaming MSG? What a joke

You think it’s good for you?


I don't think its bad for me. There is ample evidence that negative health effects from MSG is myth. A myth that originated from racism against asians.
Is MSG safe?

The Cleveland Clinic:

MSG been used as a flavor enhancer in since the early 1900s, but it started to get a bad rap in the late 1960s. Suddenly, MSG was said to be associated with all kinds of health issues, and for a while, it was branded a “toxic” ingredient.

Now, though, most of those myths have been dispelled, and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) says MSG is “generally recognized as safe.” Global food-regulating bodies like the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) and the World Health Organization (WHO) agree.

Still, MSG continues to be a controversial ingredient, in part due to a longstanding stigma against it and a lack of conclusive data about it.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/is-msg-really-harmful/


DP: “generally recognized as safe” is not terribly reassuring. I, personally, view MSG the same way that I view salt. It might be harmless for most people, but making a conscious effort to reduce them in my diet will have way more benefits for me than risks.


GRAS (“generally recognized as safe”) is the designation of tons of food and OTC products, including many plants and herbs; please learn first and comment only after


I’m well aware of this. I also realize that an enormous number of ingredients were grandfathered in. For many others, “safety” is determined by the corporations who created or who manufacture products using the ingredients. Again, that is not reassuring to me personally.

What exactly would you like me to learn beyond this?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have family and work in Europe and have to go to Europe for work and family regularly. Many years ago, I noticed that whenever I went to Europe I lost a few pounds effortlessly every time, even if it felt like I was eating all the time there. And that has happened every single time I’ve gone: I go to Europe, I lose 5-10 lbs effortlessly (depending on length of stay), I come back and gain it back immediately. I also noticed that I felt less bloated and had less aches and pains. So I started tracking things more rigorously. At first I thought maybe it was portion sizes, but I don’t eat huge portions in the US and have a pretty healthy diet here. When I tracked food it became clear, I eat MORE food in Europe and it’s less healthy (more restaurants, etc.). Then I thought it was more walking, but I have a fitness tracker and while I walk slightly more in Europe, I also don’t do my hard workouts when I am there so I think that’s a wash.

I just returned a week ago and after a few days back in the US, I felt bloated and I noticed a lot more aches and pains, even though I’m now eating healthy home cooked food I prepared myself. I lost seven pounds on this last trip but have already regained two. I’ve come to the conclusion there is something I eat here that my body doesn’t react well to. I eat a reasonably healthy diet here (proteins are fish, poultry, and tofu, for instance). I don’t do anything strict like low carb or vegan. I don’t eat sweets often.

How do I figure this out? As I get older, the difference in how I feel is becoming more and more noticeable. I’ve been back a week and I just feel kind of low-grade worse, especially the stiffness. I think it must be something in my diet but how do I figure this out?


Many of my friends have said the same. They eat more and more dense foods in Europe and lose weight.

The plant paradox book discusses that the way fruits and veggies are grown and harvested here in the US may be a cause. We get more unripe fruit and veggies because of the shipping distance.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Food laden with MSG, salt, dependency on alcohol, sodas, obsession with all things dairy, carbs, inactivity


Oh now we’re blaming MSG? What a joke

You think it’s good for you?


I don't think its bad for me. There is ample evidence that negative health effects from MSG is myth. A myth that originated from racism against asians.
Is MSG safe?

The Cleveland Clinic:

MSG been used as a flavor enhancer in since the early 1900s, but it started to get a bad rap in the late 1960s. Suddenly, MSG was said to be associated with all kinds of health issues, and for a while, it was branded a “toxic” ingredient.

Now, though, most of those myths have been dispelled, and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) says MSG is “generally recognized as safe.” Global food-regulating bodies like the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) and the World Health Organization (WHO) agree.

Still, MSG continues to be a controversial ingredient, in part due to a longstanding stigma against it and a lack of conclusive data about it.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/is-msg-really-harmful/


DP: “generally recognized as safe” is not terribly reassuring. I, personally, view MSG the same way that I view salt. It might be harmless for most people, but making a conscious effort to reduce them in my diet will have way more benefits for me than risks.


GRAS (“generally recognized as safe”) is the designation of tons of food and OTC products, including many plants and herbs; please learn first and comment only after


I’m well aware of this. I also realize that an enormous number of ingredients were grandfathered in. For many others, “safety” is determined by the corporations who created or who manufacture products using the ingredients. Again, that is not reassuring to me personally.

What exactly would you like me to learn beyond this?


To take off your tin foil hat
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Read the book the Omnivore's Dilemma and it will answer all your questions.


I’ve recommended this book here and elsewhere several times. If it convinces just one person to read it, it will be worth it. It was popular about 10-15 years ago but has fallen off. Anyway, this book was life changing for me— and I mean that sincerely.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Read the book the Omnivore's Dilemma and it will answer all your questions.


I’ve recommended this book here and elsewhere several times. If it convinces just one person to read it, it will be worth it. It was popular about 10-15 years ago but has fallen off. Anyway, this book was life changing for me— and I mean that sincerely.


I just ordered the book. Thanks for your recommendation. You convinced me!
Anonymous
Certain oils that are everywhere (vegetable, Canola) and sugars. The book "the fatburn fix" explains it well
Anonymous
This thread is depressing me. What are we supposed to do? Eat the grass in our backyards?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This thread is depressing me. What are we supposed to do? Eat the grass in our backyards?


It’s probably covered in pesticides.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Food laden with MSG, salt, dependency on alcohol, sodas, obsession with all things dairy, carbs, inactivity


Oh now we’re blaming MSG? What a joke

You think it’s good for you?


I don't think its bad for me. There is ample evidence that negative health effects from MSG is myth. A myth that originated from racism against asians.
Is MSG safe?

The Cleveland Clinic:

MSG been used as a flavor enhancer in since the early 1900s, but it started to get a bad rap in the late 1960s. Suddenly, MSG was said to be associated with all kinds of health issues, and for a while, it was branded a “toxic” ingredient.

Now, though, most of those myths have been dispelled, and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) says MSG is “generally recognized as safe.” Global food-regulating bodies like the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) and the World Health Organization (WHO) agree.

Still, MSG continues to be a controversial ingredient, in part due to a longstanding stigma against it and a lack of conclusive data about it.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/is-msg-really-harmful/


DP: “generally recognized as safe” is not terribly reassuring. I, personally, view MSG the same way that I view salt. It might be harmless for most people, but making a conscious effort to reduce them in my diet will have way more benefits for me than risks.


GRAS (“generally recognized as safe”) is the designation of tons of food and OTC products, including many plants and herbs; please learn first and comment only after


I’m well aware of this. I also realize that an enormous number of ingredients were grandfathered in. For many others, “safety” is determined by the corporations who created or who manufacture products using the ingredients. Again, that is not reassuring to me personally.

What exactly would you like me to learn beyond this?


To take off your tin foil hat


Such a substantive rejoinder!
Anonymous
I thought of this thread when I read this article earlier today. There are many ingredients that are allowed in the US food supply that are banned in EU countries. A pediatrician and environmental health expert that was interviewed makes the point that we simply do not know the long term impacts of small exposures over time — including at the DNA level (notes a chemical engineer).

I’m also wondering how the EU standards for drinking water might differ from US standards and the standards of individual states.


https://www.npr.org/2022/07/22/1112929301/skittles-lawsuit-titanium-dioxide
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I thought of this thread when I read this article earlier today. There are many ingredients that are allowed in the US food supply that are banned in EU countries. A pediatrician and environmental health expert that was interviewed makes the point that we simply do not know the long term impacts of small exposures over time — including at the DNA level (notes a chemical engineer).

I’m also wondering how the EU standards for drinking water might differ from US standards and the standards of individual states.


https://www.npr.org/2022/07/22/1112929301/skittles-lawsuit-titanium-dioxide


Butterfinger revamped their recipe. They took out hydrogenated oils, artificial flavor, preservatives, and color, and TBHQ. Sadly, if you were a regular butterfinger consumer, I do not think this cleaner version will make you any thinner
Anonymous
Sugar is a stimulant and very addictive, even more addictive than cocaine. Sugar is in everything and fake sugar or worse. Europeans eat more animal fat and protein than Americans and are metabolically better for it.

Cut out processed foods, sugar etc. Eat meat, fat and limited amounts of whole fruits/veggies. You will be better off.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Sugar is a stimulant and very addictive, even more addictive than cocaine. Sugar is in everything and fake sugar or worse. Europeans eat more animal fat and protein than Americans and are metabolically better for it.

Cut out processed foods, sugar etc. Eat meat, fat and limited amounts of whole fruits/veggies. You will be better off.


They eat plenty of bread too. Not sugar, but they by no means are living the low carb lifestyle
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