School board - who to vote for

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Anonymous wrote:It's Dawn, Esther & Michael for me. Bring some balance to the conversation. Stop with the rubber stamping. All for accountability and transparency, it's what is best for the kids.


These 3 are right wing nut jobs crazies who will tear apart our school system. Please read up and learn - they will not bring balance, they will be obstructionist.

FYI, I am not voting for any incumbents, I think all of them are awful and don't do their jobs of oversight - they rubberstamp whatever mcps staff blather on about. My votes:

At Large - J. Domenica Giandomenico
1 - Grace Rivera-Owen
3 - Julie Yang
5 - Valerie Coll

Curious for those voting for Silvestre and Wolf who believe they have "served you well," can you point to a couple of things they have done?


They got us through a difficult pandemic and kept our children safe!


That's really the crux of the issue, isn't. Do you agree with that statement?

At this point, nobody is going to change their mind. You either think they handled it well or they handled it poorly. This election will a reflection on that question
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Anonymous wrote:I’m filling out my ballot and will be voting for

Kara Silvestre (has resprented my down county area well)
Grace Rivera Oven (has received tons of endorsements, done lots of community outreach, is from up county)
Scott Joftus (doing a decent job)
Brend Wolf (doing a decent job)

Everyone please read candidate profiles carefully. There are quite a few candidates who are no CRT, no masks ever again! Please don’t bring this foolishness into MoCo.

-parent of a rising senior


lol @ Joftus "doing a decent job". Have you watched BoE meetings? He just rubber stamps whatever MCPS staff puts in front of him and applauds them for doing such a good job.


DP. I have watched many BOE meetings, and you need to pay closer attention. I have seen several meetings where Joftus gives MCPS staff constructive feedback on how to improve their presentations and documentation, and he has often asked questions which elicit additional details. I'm very pleased with his service on the board thus far.


Same here. "lol" poster seems like a Yang shill


It’s not a matter of paying closer attention. I guess we just differ on what effective oversight is. “Providing constructive feedback” on how to do better at PowerPoint slides isn’t what I look for in a candidate. When the system was completely broken for parents this past January and trust and communication was at an all time low, he had the opportunity to be the fresh, new perspective in the room and hold MCPS leadership accountable. Instead he nodded his head, thanked the staff for their presentations and offered a nugget or two about how “it would be nice if you included a chart on x in this slide here so it was more clear”. Not what I think we need right now, but if that cuts it for you, then we can agree to disagree.


I also think that what happens outside the meetings counts. When parents from our school have engaged Joftus with questions/concerns (we are in District 3, his district) he has been phenomenally helpful and attentive... He was very knowledgable and gave us the information we needed to solve our problem... I've never had such a great experience with an elected official. (*Though of course he wasn't elected, he was appointed in December.... hopefully he'll become a true elected official in December!) Kind of amazing for someone who's been in the job less than a year.


I don't doubt that's true (I'm in his district too and emailed him once about an issue and he got back to me within a day, which was amazing), but again, I think we just differ on what we want or prioritize in a Board of Ed member. Sure, constituent service is nice and it's great to hear that he's good at tracking down information for people or responding to individual issues when parents email him directly. But I'm looking for a lot more than that, especially from someone who is new and in a great position to shake things up. The system needs some serious oversight and accountability, and I just don't see that from him.


Actually, our problem reflects failures of oversight and accountability that speak to broader systemic failures / grievously inadequate policies and procedures...... Which is how we framed our problem and why we went to him... BoE members don't really provide constituent services to my knowledge. In any case, he seems to us to be treating these as urgent and to be following through on them...


That’s great that he does that for parents who have the time, knowledge, wherewithal etc. to email him directly. Again, I’m looking for more. Your original post said he “gave us the information we needed to solve our problem.” That didn’t sound like a situation where you pointed out a policy or systemic failure and he changed it or commuted to change it. Either way, it seems like unless one of his constituents (and yes, I count responding to parents with information/answers to questions as constituent services) reaches out directly, his approach on the Board appears to be the same rubber stamp, “do no harm”. Maybe he just wanted to fly under the radar so he could run as an incumbent without ruffling feathers. In that respect, he was successful for sure.


I can tell you're allergic to him, but for others who haven't made up mind, I would emphasize that Joftus is an ed policy expert and teaches ed policy at gw.... we are very lucky to have him serving, people like this don't usually end up on school boards. If you want someone who's going to be obstreperous more than someone who's substantive, he's not your guy. but i don't know anyone who's engaged with him personally who came away with the idea that he thinks MCPS is functioning just fine....
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Anonymous wrote:I’m filling out my ballot and will be voting for

Kara Silvestre (has resprented my down county area well)
Grace Rivera Oven (has received tons of endorsements, done lots of community outreach, is from up county)
Scott Joftus (doing a decent job)
Brend Wolf (doing a decent job)

Everyone please read candidate profiles carefully. There are quite a few candidates who are no CRT, no masks ever again! Please don’t bring this foolishness into MoCo.

-parent of a rising senior


lol @ Joftus "doing a decent job". Have you watched BoE meetings? He just rubber stamps whatever MCPS staff puts in front of him and applauds them for doing such a good job.


DP. I have watched many BOE meetings, and you need to pay closer attention. I have seen several meetings where Joftus gives MCPS staff constructive feedback on how to improve their presentations and documentation, and he has often asked questions which elicit additional details. I'm very pleased with his service on the board thus far.


Same here. "lol" poster seems like a Yang shill


It’s not a matter of paying closer attention. I guess we just differ on what effective oversight is. “Providing constructive feedback” on how to do better at PowerPoint slides isn’t what I look for in a candidate. When the system was completely broken for parents this past January and trust and communication was at an all time low, he had the opportunity to be the fresh, new perspective in the room and hold MCPS leadership accountable. Instead he nodded his head, thanked the staff for their presentations and offered a nugget or two about how “it would be nice if you included a chart on x in this slide here so it was more clear”. Not what I think we need right now, but if that cuts it for you, then we can agree to disagree.


I also think that what happens outside the meetings counts. When parents from our school have engaged Joftus with questions/concerns (we are in District 3, his district) he has been phenomenally helpful and attentive... He was very knowledgable and gave us the information we needed to solve our problem... I've never had such a great experience with an elected official. (*Though of course he wasn't elected, he was appointed in December.... hopefully he'll become a true elected official in December!) Kind of amazing for someone who's been in the job less than a year.


I don't doubt that's true (I'm in his district too and emailed him once about an issue and he got back to me within a day, which was amazing), but again, I think we just differ on what we want or prioritize in a Board of Ed member. Sure, constituent service is nice and it's great to hear that he's good at tracking down information for people or responding to individual issues when parents email him directly. But I'm looking for a lot more than that, especially from someone who is new and in a great position to shake things up. The system needs some serious oversight and accountability, and I just don't see that from him.


Actually, our problem reflects failures of oversight and accountability that speak to broader systemic failures / grievously inadequate policies and procedures...... Which is how we framed our problem and why we went to him... BoE members don't really provide constituent services to my knowledge. In any case, he seems to us to be treating these as urgent and to be following through on them...


That’s great that he does that for parents who have the time, knowledge, wherewithal etc. to email him directly. Again, I’m looking for more. Your original post said he “gave us the information we needed to solve our problem.” That didn’t sound like a situation where you pointed out a policy or systemic failure and he changed it or commuted to change it. Either way, it seems like unless one of his constituents (and yes, I count responding to parents with information/answers to questions as constituent services) reaches out directly, his approach on the Board appears to be the same rubber stamp, “do no harm”. Maybe he just wanted to fly under the radar so he could run as an incumbent without ruffling feathers. In that respect, he was successful for sure.


I can tell you're allergic to him, but for others who haven't made up mind, I would emphasize that Joftus is an ed policy expert and teaches ed policy at gw.... we are very lucky to have him serving, people like this don't usually end up on school boards. If you want someone who's going to be obstreperous more than someone who's substantive, he's not your guy. but i don't know anyone who's engaged with him personally who came away with the idea that he thinks MCPS is functioning just fine....


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Anonymous wrote:I’m filling out my ballot and will be voting for

Kara Silvestre (has resprented my down county area well)
Grace Rivera Oven (has received tons of endorsements, done lots of community outreach, is from up county)
Scott Joftus (doing a decent job)
Brend Wolf (doing a decent job)

Everyone please read candidate profiles carefully. There are quite a few candidates who are no CRT, no masks ever again! Please don’t bring this foolishness into MoCo.

-parent of a rising senior


lol @ Joftus "doing a decent job". Have you watched BoE meetings? He just rubber stamps whatever MCPS staff puts in front of him and applauds them for doing such a good job.


DP. I have watched many BOE meetings, and you need to pay closer attention. I have seen several meetings where Joftus gives MCPS staff constructive feedback on how to improve their presentations and documentation, and he has often asked questions which elicit additional details. I'm very pleased with his service on the board thus far.


Same here. "lol" poster seems like a Yang shill


It’s not a matter of paying closer attention. I guess we just differ on what effective oversight is. “Providing constructive feedback” on how to do better at PowerPoint slides isn’t what I look for in a candidate. When the system was completely broken for parents this past January and trust and communication was at an all time low, he had the opportunity to be the fresh, new perspective in the room and hold MCPS leadership accountable. Instead he nodded his head, thanked the staff for their presentations and offered a nugget or two about how “it would be nice if you included a chart on x in this slide here so it was more clear”. Not what I think we need right now, but if that cuts it for you, then we can agree to disagree.


I also think that what happens outside the meetings counts. When parents from our school have engaged Joftus with questions/concerns (we are in District 3, his district) he has been phenomenally helpful and attentive... He was very knowledgable and gave us the information we needed to solve our problem... I've never had such a great experience with an elected official. (*Though of course he wasn't elected, he was appointed in December.... hopefully he'll become a true elected official in December!) Kind of amazing for someone who's been in the job less than a year.


I don't doubt that's true (I'm in his district too and emailed him once about an issue and he got back to me within a day, which was amazing), but again, I think we just differ on what we want or prioritize in a Board of Ed member. Sure, constituent service is nice and it's great to hear that he's good at tracking down information for people or responding to individual issues when parents email him directly. But I'm looking for a lot more than that, especially from someone who is new and in a great position to shake things up. The system needs some serious oversight and accountability, and I just don't see that from him.


Actually, our problem reflects failures of oversight and accountability that speak to broader systemic failures / grievously inadequate policies and procedures...... Which is how we framed our problem and why we went to him... BoE members don't really provide constituent services to my knowledge. In any case, he seems to us to be treating these as urgent and to be following through on them...


That’s great that he does that for parents who have the time, knowledge, wherewithal etc. to email him directly. Again, I’m looking for more. Your original post said he “gave us the information we needed to solve our problem.” That didn’t sound like a situation where you pointed out a policy or systemic failure and he changed it or commuted to change it. Either way, it seems like unless one of his constituents (and yes, I count responding to parents with information/answers to questions as constituent services) reaches out directly, his approach on the Board appears to be the same rubber stamp, “do no harm”. Maybe he just wanted to fly under the radar so he could run as an incumbent without ruffling feathers. In that respect, he was successful for sure.


I can tell you're allergic to him, but for others who haven't made up mind, I would emphasize that Joftus is an ed policy expert and teaches ed policy at gw.... we are very lucky to have him serving, people like this don't usually end up on school boards. If you want someone who's going to be obstreperous more than someone who's substantive, he's not your guy. but i don't know anyone who's engaged with him personally who came away with the idea that he thinks MCPS is functioning just fine....


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Oh so you have to talk to him quietly behind closed doors to figure out if he is any good. Good to know. How long for him to have secret meetings with all 160K parents? Backroom board members work out the best for the Whitman cluster, exactly who he represents. The rest of us can just forget about him.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m filling out my ballot and will be voting for

Kara Silvestre (has resprented my down county area well)
Grace Rivera Oven (has received tons of endorsements, done lots of community outreach, is from up county)
Scott Joftus (doing a decent job)
Brend Wolf (doing a decent job)

Everyone please read candidate profiles carefully. There are quite a few candidates who are no CRT, no masks ever again! Please don’t bring this foolishness into MoCo.

-parent of a rising senior


lol @ Joftus "doing a decent job". Have you watched BoE meetings? He just rubber stamps whatever MCPS staff puts in front of him and applauds them for doing such a good job.


DP. I have watched many BOE meetings, and you need to pay closer attention. I have seen several meetings where Joftus gives MCPS staff constructive feedback on how to improve their presentations and documentation, and he has often asked questions which elicit additional details. I'm very pleased with his service on the board thus far.


Same here. "lol" poster seems like a Yang shill


It’s not a matter of paying closer attention. I guess we just differ on what effective oversight is. “Providing constructive feedback” on how to do better at PowerPoint slides isn’t what I look for in a candidate. When the system was completely broken for parents this past January and trust and communication was at an all time low, he had the opportunity to be the fresh, new perspective in the room and hold MCPS leadership accountable. Instead he nodded his head, thanked the staff for their presentations and offered a nugget or two about how “it would be nice if you included a chart on x in this slide here so it was more clear”. Not what I think we need right now, but if that cuts it for you, then we can agree to disagree.


I also think that what happens outside the meetings counts. When parents from our school have engaged Joftus with questions/concerns (we are in District 3, his district) he has been phenomenally helpful and attentive... He was very knowledgable and gave us the information we needed to solve our problem... I've never had such a great experience with an elected official. (*Though of course he wasn't elected, he was appointed in December.... hopefully he'll become a true elected official in December!) Kind of amazing for someone who's been in the job less than a year.


I don't doubt that's true (I'm in his district too and emailed him once about an issue and he got back to me within a day, which was amazing), but again, I think we just differ on what we want or prioritize in a Board of Ed member. Sure, constituent service is nice and it's great to hear that he's good at tracking down information for people or responding to individual issues when parents email him directly. But I'm looking for a lot more than that, especially from someone who is new and in a great position to shake things up. The system needs some serious oversight and accountability, and I just don't see that from him.


Actually, our problem reflects failures of oversight and accountability that speak to broader systemic failures / grievously inadequate policies and procedures...... Which is how we framed our problem and why we went to him... BoE members don't really provide constituent services to my knowledge. In any case, he seems to us to be treating these as urgent and to be following through on them...


That’s great that he does that for parents who have the time, knowledge, wherewithal etc. to email him directly. Again, I’m looking for more. Your original post said he “gave us the information we needed to solve our problem.” That didn’t sound like a situation where you pointed out a policy or systemic failure and he changed it or commuted to change it. Either way, it seems like unless one of his constituents (and yes, I count responding to parents with information/answers to questions as constituent services) reaches out directly, his approach on the Board appears to be the same rubber stamp, “do no harm”. Maybe he just wanted to fly under the radar so he could run as an incumbent without ruffling feathers. In that respect, he was successful for sure.


I can tell you're allergic to him, but for others who haven't made up mind, I would emphasize that Joftus is an ed policy expert and teaches ed policy at gw.... we are very lucky to have him serving, people like this don't usually end up on school boards. If you want someone who's going to be obstreperous more than someone who's substantive, he's not your guy. but i don't know anyone who's engaged with him personally who came away with the idea that he thinks MCPS is functioning just fine....


+1000


Oh so you have to talk to him quietly behind closed doors to figure out if he is any good. Good to know. How long for him to have secret meetings with all 160K parents? Backroom board members work out the best for the Whitman cluster, exactly who he represents. The rest of us can just forget about him.


What are you going on about? He's even posted on DCUM before and shared his phone number for anyone who had questions for him.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m filling out my ballot and will be voting for

Kara Silvestre (has resprented my down county area well)
Grace Rivera Oven (has received tons of endorsements, done lots of community outreach, is from up county)
Scott Joftus (doing a decent job)
Brend Wolf (doing a decent job)

Everyone please read candidate profiles carefully. There are quite a few candidates who are no CRT, no masks ever again! Please don’t bring this foolishness into MoCo.

-parent of a rising senior


lol @ Joftus "doing a decent job". Have you watched BoE meetings? He just rubber stamps whatever MCPS staff puts in front of him and applauds them for doing such a good job.


DP. I have watched many BOE meetings, and you need to pay closer attention. I have seen several meetings where Joftus gives MCPS staff constructive feedback on how to improve their presentations and documentation, and he has often asked questions which elicit additional details. I'm very pleased with his service on the board thus far.


Same here. "lol" poster seems like a Yang shill


It’s not a matter of paying closer attention. I guess we just differ on what effective oversight is. “Providing constructive feedback” on how to do better at PowerPoint slides isn’t what I look for in a candidate. When the system was completely broken for parents this past January and trust and communication was at an all time low, he had the opportunity to be the fresh, new perspective in the room and hold MCPS leadership accountable. Instead he nodded his head, thanked the staff for their presentations and offered a nugget or two about how “it would be nice if you included a chart on x in this slide here so it was more clear”. Not what I think we need right now, but if that cuts it for you, then we can agree to disagree.


I also think that what happens outside the meetings counts. When parents from our school have engaged Joftus with questions/concerns (we are in District 3, his district) he has been phenomenally helpful and attentive... He was very knowledgable and gave us the information we needed to solve our problem... I've never had such a great experience with an elected official. (*Though of course he wasn't elected, he was appointed in December.... hopefully he'll become a true elected official in December!) Kind of amazing for someone who's been in the job less than a year.


I don't doubt that's true (I'm in his district too and emailed him once about an issue and he got back to me within a day, which was amazing), but again, I think we just differ on what we want or prioritize in a Board of Ed member. Sure, constituent service is nice and it's great to hear that he's good at tracking down information for people or responding to individual issues when parents email him directly. But I'm looking for a lot more than that, especially from someone who is new and in a great position to shake things up. The system needs some serious oversight and accountability, and I just don't see that from him.


Actually, our problem reflects failures of oversight and accountability that speak to broader systemic failures / grievously inadequate policies and procedures...... Which is how we framed our problem and why we went to him... BoE members don't really provide constituent services to my knowledge. In any case, he seems to us to be treating these as urgent and to be following through on them...


That’s great that he does that for parents who have the time, knowledge, wherewithal etc. to email him directly. Again, I’m looking for more. Your original post said he “gave us the information we needed to solve our problem.” That didn’t sound like a situation where you pointed out a policy or systemic failure and he changed it or commuted to change it. Either way, it seems like unless one of his constituents (and yes, I count responding to parents with information/answers to questions as constituent services) reaches out directly, his approach on the Board appears to be the same rubber stamp, “do no harm”. Maybe he just wanted to fly under the radar so he could run as an incumbent without ruffling feathers. In that respect, he was successful for sure.


I can tell you're allergic to him, but for others who haven't made up mind, I would emphasize that Joftus is an ed policy expert and teaches ed policy at gw.... we are very lucky to have him serving, people like this don't usually end up on school boards. If you want someone who's going to be obstreperous more than someone who's substantive, he's not your guy. but i don't know anyone who's engaged with him personally who came away with the idea that he thinks MCPS is functioning just fine....


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Oh so you have to talk to him quietly behind closed doors to figure out if he is any good. Good to know. How long for him to have secret meetings with all 160K parents? Backroom board members work out the best for the Whitman cluster, exactly who he represents. The rest of us can just forget about him.


He's a good guy. But I'm not looking to 'stick' it to anyone. So many are blinded by their rage over the pandemic. Please try to look past that and just vote for some who can actually DO the job. Not just someone who is great at signing up for board meetings and screaming at people. It's embarrassing. We are better than that here. We MUST be better than that for our children.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m filling out my ballot and will be voting for

Kara Silvestre (has resprented my down county area well)
Grace Rivera Oven (has received tons of endorsements, done lots of community outreach, is from up county)
Scott Joftus (doing a decent job)
Brend Wolf (doing a decent job)

Everyone please read candidate profiles carefully. There are quite a few candidates who are no CRT, no masks ever again! Please don’t bring this foolishness into MoCo.

-parent of a rising senior


lol @ Joftus "doing a decent job". Have you watched BoE meetings? He just rubber stamps whatever MCPS staff puts in front of him and applauds them for doing such a good job.




DP. I have watched many BOE meetings, and you need to pay closer attention. I have seen several meetings where Joftus gives MCPS staff constructive feedback on how to improve their presentations and documentation, and he has often asked questions which elicit additional details. I'm very pleased with his service on the board thus far.


Same here. "lol" poster seems like a Yang shill


It’s not a matter of paying closer attention. I guess we just differ on what effective oversight is. “Providing constructive feedback” on how to do better at PowerPoint slides isn’t what I look for in a candidate. When the system was completely broken for parents this past January and trust and communication was at an all time low, he had the opportunity to be the fresh, new perspective in the room and hold MCPS leadership accountable. Instead he nodded his head, thanked the staff for their presentations and offered a nugget or two about how “it would be nice if you included a chart on x in this slide here so it was more clear”. Not what I think we need right now, but if that cuts it for you, then we can agree to disagree.


I also think that what happens outside the meetings counts. When parents from our school have engaged Joftus with questions/concerns (we are in District 3, his district) he has been phenomenally helpful and attentive... He was very knowledgable and gave us the information we needed to solve our problem... I've never had such a great experience with an elected official. (*Though of course he wasn't elected, he was appointed in December.... hopefully he'll become a true elected official in December!) Kind of amazing for someone who's been in the job less than a year.


I don't doubt that's true (I'm in his district too and emailed him once about an issue and he got back to me within a day, which was amazing), but again, I think we just differ on what we want or prioritize in a Board of Ed member. Sure, constituent service is nice and it's great to hear that he's good at tracking down information for people or responding to individual issues when parents email him directly. But I'm looking for a lot more than that, especially from someone who is new and in a great position to shake things up. The system needs some serious oversight and accountability, and I just don't see that from him.


It's interesting (odd) to me that you think his opponent, Julie Yang, a person backed by the teachers' union / MCEA, is going to shake things up and bring in oversight and accountability....... Whatever you think of teachers' unions they aren't exactly associated with those things....
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Anonymous wrote:I’m filling out my ballot and will be voting for

Kara Silvestre (has resprented my down county area well)
Grace Rivera Oven (has received tons of endorsements, done lots of community outreach, is from up county)
Scott Joftus (doing a decent job)
Brend Wolf (doing a decent job)

Everyone please read candidate profiles carefully. There are quite a few candidates who are no CRT, no masks ever again! Please don’t bring this foolishness into MoCo.

-parent of a rising senior


lol @ Joftus "doing a decent job". Have you watched BoE meetings? He just rubber stamps whatever MCPS staff puts in front of him and applauds them for doing such a good job.




DP. I have watched many BOE meetings, and you need to pay closer attention. I have seen several meetings where Joftus gives MCPS staff constructive feedback on how to improve their presentations and documentation, and he has often asked questions which elicit additional details. I'm very pleased with his service on the board thus far.


Same here. "lol" poster seems like a Yang shill


It’s not a matter of paying closer attention. I guess we just differ on what effective oversight is. “Providing constructive feedback” on how to do better at PowerPoint slides isn’t what I look for in a candidate. When the system was completely broken for parents this past January and trust and communication was at an all time low, he had the opportunity to be the fresh, new perspective in the room and hold MCPS leadership accountable. Instead he nodded his head, thanked the staff for their presentations and offered a nugget or two about how “it would be nice if you included a chart on x in this slide here so it was more clear”. Not what I think we need right now, but if that cuts it for you, then we can agree to disagree.


I also think that what happens outside the meetings counts. When parents from our school have engaged Joftus with questions/concerns (we are in District 3, his district) he has been phenomenally helpful and attentive... He was very knowledgable and gave us the information we needed to solve our problem... I've never had such a great experience with an elected official. (*Though of course he wasn't elected, he was appointed in December.... hopefully he'll become a true elected official in December!) Kind of amazing for someone who's been in the job less than a year.


I don't doubt that's true (I'm in his district too and emailed him once about an issue and he got back to me within a day, which was amazing), but again, I think we just differ on what we want or prioritize in a Board of Ed member. Sure, constituent service is nice and it's great to hear that he's good at tracking down information for people or responding to individual issues when parents email him directly. But I'm looking for a lot more than that, especially from someone who is new and in a great position to shake things up. The system needs some serious oversight and accountability, and I just don't see that from him.


It's interesting (odd) to me that you think his opponent, Julie Yang, a person backed by the teachers' union / MCEA, is going to shake things up and bring in oversight and accountability....... Whatever you think of teachers' unions they aren't exactly associated with those things....

The tension is obviously that Joftus is criticized for being a rubber stamp for Dr. Knight (many suspect he was brought into the Board precisely for that reason); versus Yang who is criticized for being an MCEA supported candidate.

A lot of folks are currently unimpressed with both, so it’s a hard decision.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m filling out my ballot and will be voting for

Kara Silvestre (has resprented my down county area well)
Grace Rivera Oven (has received tons of endorsements, done lots of community outreach, is from up county)
Scott Joftus (doing a decent job)
Brend Wolf (doing a decent job)

Everyone please read candidate profiles carefully. There are quite a few candidates who are no CRT, no masks ever again! Please don’t bring this foolishness into MoCo.

-parent of a rising senior


lol @ Joftus "doing a decent job". Have you watched BoE meetings? He just rubber stamps whatever MCPS staff puts in front of him and applauds them for doing such a good job.




DP. I have watched many BOE meetings, and you need to pay closer attention. I have seen several meetings where Joftus gives MCPS staff constructive feedback on how to improve their presentations and documentation, and he has often asked questions which elicit additional details. I'm very pleased with his service on the board thus far.


Same here. "lol" poster seems like a Yang shill


It’s not a matter of paying closer attention. I guess we just differ on what effective oversight is. “Providing constructive feedback” on how to do better at PowerPoint slides isn’t what I look for in a candidate. When the system was completely broken for parents this past January and trust and communication was at an all time low, he had the opportunity to be the fresh, new perspective in the room and hold MCPS leadership accountable. Instead he nodded his head, thanked the staff for their presentations and offered a nugget or two about how “it would be nice if you included a chart on x in this slide here so it was more clear”. Not what I think we need right now, but if that cuts it for you, then we can agree to disagree.


I also think that what happens outside the meetings counts. When parents from our school have engaged Joftus with questions/concerns (we are in District 3, his district) he has been phenomenally helpful and attentive... He was very knowledgable and gave us the information we needed to solve our problem... I've never had such a great experience with an elected official. (*Though of course he wasn't elected, he was appointed in December.... hopefully he'll become a true elected official in December!) Kind of amazing for someone who's been in the job less than a year.


I don't doubt that's true (I'm in his district too and emailed him once about an issue and he got back to me within a day, which was amazing), but again, I think we just differ on what we want or prioritize in a Board of Ed member. Sure, constituent service is nice and it's great to hear that he's good at tracking down information for people or responding to individual issues when parents email him directly. But I'm looking for a lot more than that, especially from someone who is new and in a great position to shake things up. The system needs some serious oversight and accountability, and I just don't see that from him.


It's interesting (odd) to me that you think his opponent, Julie Yang, a person backed by the teachers' union / MCEA, is going to shake things up and bring in oversight and accountability....... Whatever you think of teachers' unions they aren't exactly associated with those things....

The tension is obviously that Joftus is criticized for being a rubber stamp for Dr. Knight (many suspect he was brought into the Board precisely for that reason); versus Yang who is criticized for being an MCEA supported candidate.

A lot of folks are currently unimpressed with both, so it’s a hard decision.


Both of them are likely to make it onto the general election ballot in November, so there is still plenty of time to decide.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m filling out my ballot and will be voting for

Kara Silvestre (has resprented my down county area well)
Grace Rivera Oven (has received tons of endorsements, done lots of community outreach, is from up county)
Scott Joftus (doing a decent job)
Brend Wolf (doing a decent job)

Everyone please read candidate profiles carefully. There are quite a few candidates who are no CRT, no masks ever again! Please don’t bring this foolishness into MoCo.

-parent of a rising senior


lol @ Joftus "doing a decent job". Have you watched BoE meetings? He just rubber stamps whatever MCPS staff puts in front of him and applauds them for doing such a good job.




DP. I have watched many BOE meetings, and you need to pay closer attention. I have seen several meetings where Joftus gives MCPS staff constructive feedback on how to improve their presentations and documentation, and he has often asked questions which elicit additional details. I'm very pleased with his service on the board thus far.


Same here. "lol" poster seems like a Yang shill


It’s not a matter of paying closer attention. I guess we just differ on what effective oversight is. “Providing constructive feedback” on how to do better at PowerPoint slides isn’t what I look for in a candidate. When the system was completely broken for parents this past January and trust and communication was at an all time low, he had the opportunity to be the fresh, new perspective in the room and hold MCPS leadership accountable. Instead he nodded his head, thanked the staff for their presentations and offered a nugget or two about how “it would be nice if you included a chart on x in this slide here so it was more clear”. Not what I think we need right now, but if that cuts it for you, then we can agree to disagree.


I also think that what happens outside the meetings counts. When parents from our school have engaged Joftus with questions/concerns (we are in District 3, his district) he has been phenomenally helpful and attentive... He was very knowledgable and gave us the information we needed to solve our problem... I've never had such a great experience with an elected official. (*Though of course he wasn't elected, he was appointed in December.... hopefully he'll become a true elected official in December!) Kind of amazing for someone who's been in the job less than a year.


I don't doubt that's true (I'm in his district too and emailed him once about an issue and he got back to me within a day, which was amazing), but again, I think we just differ on what we want or prioritize in a Board of Ed member. Sure, constituent service is nice and it's great to hear that he's good at tracking down information for people or responding to individual issues when parents email him directly. But I'm looking for a lot more than that, especially from someone who is new and in a great position to shake things up. The system needs some serious oversight and accountability, and I just don't see that from him.


It's interesting (odd) to me that you think his opponent, Julie Yang, a person backed by the teachers' union / MCEA, is going to shake things up and bring in oversight and accountability....... Whatever you think of teachers' unions they aren't exactly associated with those things....


The union literally held a vote of no confidence in MCPS leadership earlier this year. Symbolic, sure, but it's not like the union/MCEA and MCPS administrators are aligned on everything. I don't think there's any love lost between MCEA and McKnight. If I had to choose one group to win - teachers, and a candidate who is supported by them vs. MCPS administrators, and a candidate who rubber stamps whatever they propose - the teachers would have my vote 100% of the time.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m filling out my ballot and will be voting for

Kara Silvestre (has resprented my down county area well)
Grace Rivera Oven (has received tons of endorsements, done lots of community outreach, is from up county)
Scott Joftus (doing a decent job)
Brend Wolf (doing a decent job)

Everyone please read candidate profiles carefully. There are quite a few candidates who are no CRT, no masks ever again! Please don’t bring this foolishness into MoCo.

-parent of a rising senior


lol @ Joftus "doing a decent job". Have you watched BoE meetings? He just rubber stamps whatever MCPS staff puts in front of him and applauds them for doing such a good job.




DP. I have watched many BOE meetings, and you need to pay closer attention. I have seen several meetings where Joftus gives MCPS staff constructive feedback on how to improve their presentations and documentation, and he has often asked questions which elicit additional details. I'm very pleased with his service on the board thus far.


Same here. "lol" poster seems like a Yang shill


It’s not a matter of paying closer attention. I guess we just differ on what effective oversight is. “Providing constructive feedback” on how to do better at PowerPoint slides isn’t what I look for in a candidate. When the system was completely broken for parents this past January and trust and communication was at an all time low, he had the opportunity to be the fresh, new perspective in the room and hold MCPS leadership accountable. Instead he nodded his head, thanked the staff for their presentations and offered a nugget or two about how “it would be nice if you included a chart on x in this slide here so it was more clear”. Not what I think we need right now, but if that cuts it for you, then we can agree to disagree.


I also think that what happens outside the meetings counts. When parents from our school have engaged Joftus with questions/concerns (we are in District 3, his district) he has been phenomenally helpful and attentive... He was very knowledgable and gave us the information we needed to solve our problem... I've never had such a great experience with an elected official. (*Though of course he wasn't elected, he was appointed in December.... hopefully he'll become a true elected official in December!) Kind of amazing for someone who's been in the job less than a year.


I don't doubt that's true (I'm in his district too and emailed him once about an issue and he got back to me within a day, which was amazing), but again, I think we just differ on what we want or prioritize in a Board of Ed member. Sure, constituent service is nice and it's great to hear that he's good at tracking down information for people or responding to individual issues when parents email him directly. But I'm looking for a lot more than that, especially from someone who is new and in a great position to shake things up. The system needs some serious oversight and accountability, and I just don't see that from him.


It's interesting (odd) to me that you think his opponent, Julie Yang, a person backed by the teachers' union / MCEA, is going to shake things up and bring in oversight and accountability....... Whatever you think of teachers' unions they aren't exactly associated with those things....


Your tired, anti-union and anti-teacher talking point about how teachers don’t want to be held accountable and therefore would prefer a rubber stamp candidate who won’t conduct oversight assumes that MCPS administrators do what’s best for teachers. They do what’s best for MCPS administrators. At a time when teachers were struggling to fill in open jobs, roles, etc. due to the lack of substitutes across the county, MCPS/McKnight created tons of new highly paid positions on MCPS staff to fix the system’s problems. Joftus, of course, rubber stamped his approval. Hopefully someone who values the importance of teachers over more and more policy makers and administrators will be able to highlight the wrong direction that system leadership often takes to problems. If it takes an MCEA backed candidate to stop spending money and time on more administrators and PowerPoint slides, then so be it.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m filling out my ballot and will be voting for

Kara Silvestre (has resprented my down county area well)
Grace Rivera Oven (has received tons of endorsements, done lots of community outreach, is from up county)
Scott Joftus (doing a decent job)
Brend Wolf (doing a decent job)

Everyone please read candidate profiles carefully. There are quite a few candidates who are no CRT, no masks ever again! Please don’t bring this foolishness into MoCo.

-parent of a rising senior


lol @ Joftus "doing a decent job". Have you watched BoE meetings? He just rubber stamps whatever MCPS staff puts in front of him and applauds them for doing such a good job.




DP. I have watched many BOE meetings, and you need to pay closer attention. I have seen several meetings where Joftus gives MCPS staff constructive feedback on how to improve their presentations and documentation, and he has often asked questions which elicit additional details. I'm very pleased with his service on the board thus far.


Same here. "lol" poster seems like a Yang shill


It’s not a matter of paying closer attention. I guess we just differ on what effective oversight is. “Providing constructive feedback” on how to do better at PowerPoint slides isn’t what I look for in a candidate. When the system was completely broken for parents this past January and trust and communication was at an all time low, he had the opportunity to be the fresh, new perspective in the room and hold MCPS leadership accountable. Instead he nodded his head, thanked the staff for their presentations and offered a nugget or two about how “it would be nice if you included a chart on x in this slide here so it was more clear”. Not what I think we need right now, but if that cuts it for you, then we can agree to disagree.


I also think that what happens outside the meetings counts. When parents from our school have engaged Joftus with questions/concerns (we are in District 3, his district) he has been phenomenally helpful and attentive... He was very knowledgable and gave us the information we needed to solve our problem... I've never had such a great experience with an elected official. (*Though of course he wasn't elected, he was appointed in December.... hopefully he'll become a true elected official in December!) Kind of amazing for someone who's been in the job less than a year.


I don't doubt that's true (I'm in his district too and emailed him once about an issue and he got back to me within a day, which was amazing), but again, I think we just differ on what we want or prioritize in a Board of Ed member. Sure, constituent service is nice and it's great to hear that he's good at tracking down information for people or responding to individual issues when parents email him directly. But I'm looking for a lot more than that, especially from someone who is new and in a great position to shake things up. The system needs some serious oversight and accountability, and I just don't see that from him.


It's interesting (odd) to me that you think his opponent, Julie Yang, a person backed by the teachers' union / MCEA, is going to shake things up and bring in oversight and accountability....... Whatever you think of teachers' unions they aren't exactly associated with those things....


Your tired, anti-union and anti-teacher talking point about how teachers don’t want to be held accountable and therefore would prefer a rubber stamp candidate who won’t conduct oversight assumes that MCPS administrators do what’s best for teachers. They do what’s best for MCPS administrators. At a time when teachers were struggling to fill in open jobs, roles, etc. due to the lack of substitutes across the county, MCPS/McKnight created tons of new highly paid positions on MCPS staff to fix the system’s problems. Joftus, of course, rubber stamped his approval. Hopefully someone who values the importance of teachers over more and more policy makers and administrators will be able to highlight the wrong direction that system leadership often takes to problems. If it takes an MCEA backed candidate to stop spending money and time on more administrators and PowerPoint slides, then so be it.


So true. There seems to be a lot of disconnect between the board and teachers. I do hope that people are wise enough to seperate the policy-makers from those who are forced to enact those policies. Whatever you vote for, just please don't punish the teachers. We need good ones to stay!
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Anonymous wrote:I’m filling out my ballot and will be voting for

Kara Silvestre (has resprented my down county area well)
Grace Rivera Oven (has received tons of endorsements, done lots of community outreach, is from up county)
Scott Joftus (doing a decent job)
Brend Wolf (doing a decent job)

Everyone please read candidate profiles carefully. There are quite a few candidates who are no CRT, no masks ever again! Please don’t bring this foolishness into MoCo.

-parent of a rising senior


lol @ Joftus "doing a decent job". Have you watched BoE meetings? He just rubber stamps whatever MCPS staff puts in front of him and applauds them for doing such a good job.




DP. I have watched many BOE meetings, and you need to pay closer attention. I have seen several meetings where Joftus gives MCPS staff constructive feedback on how to improve their presentations and documentation, and he has often asked questions which elicit additional details. I'm very pleased with his service on the board thus far.


Same here. "lol" poster seems like a Yang shill


It’s not a matter of paying closer attention. I guess we just differ on what effective oversight is. “Providing constructive feedback” on how to do better at PowerPoint slides isn’t what I look for in a candidate. When the system was completely broken for parents this past January and trust and communication was at an all time low, he had the opportunity to be the fresh, new perspective in the room and hold MCPS leadership accountable. Instead he nodded his head, thanked the staff for their presentations and offered a nugget or two about how “it would be nice if you included a chart on x in this slide here so it was more clear”. Not what I think we need right now, but if that cuts it for you, then we can agree to disagree.


I also think that what happens outside the meetings counts. When parents from our school have engaged Joftus with questions/concerns (we are in District 3, his district) he has been phenomenally helpful and attentive... He was very knowledgable and gave us the information we needed to solve our problem... I've never had such a great experience with an elected official. (*Though of course he wasn't elected, he was appointed in December.... hopefully he'll become a true elected official in December!) Kind of amazing for someone who's been in the job less than a year.


I don't doubt that's true (I'm in his district too and emailed him once about an issue and he got back to me within a day, which was amazing), but again, I think we just differ on what we want or prioritize in a Board of Ed member. Sure, constituent service is nice and it's great to hear that he's good at tracking down information for people or responding to individual issues when parents email him directly. But I'm looking for a lot more than that, especially from someone who is new and in a great position to shake things up. The system needs some serious oversight and accountability, and I just don't see that from him.


It's interesting (odd) to me that you think his opponent, Julie Yang, a person backed by the teachers' union / MCEA, is going to shake things up and bring in oversight and accountability....... Whatever you think of teachers' unions they aren't exactly associated with those things....

The tension is obviously that Joftus is criticized for being a rubber stamp for Dr. Knight (many suspect he was brought into the Board precisely for that reason); versus Yang who is criticized for being an MCEA supported candidate.

A lot of folks are currently unimpressed with both, so it’s a hard decision.


Both of them are likely to make it onto the general election ballot in November, so there is still plenty of time to decide.

NP. I've read all the pages in this post and want to thank everyone for chiming in with the kind of insight that I can't get from the endorsements/candidate statements. Based on these posts, I decided to vote for Yang instead of Joftus. I do note a PP who said that her interaction with Yang was off-putting, including that Yang didn't engage PP's daughter who is also a voter. This was a significant minus to me. However, I think that given the misgivings about Joftus (=serving as a rubber-stamp for the MCPS admin), if he wins by a relatively narrow margin, it will indicate to him that he'll need to raise his game between now and November to show that he can be a force for change and improvement. (I'm also not happy with the Kid Museum relationship situation...I see that the funds were approved before his BoE appointment, but it strikes me that this couple's network/overlapping circles of influence may be a 'negative' --in that I'd prefer the political circles to not be overlapping with people who run high-profile local organizations.
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Anonymous wrote:It's Dawn, Esther & Michael for me. Bring some balance to the conversation. Stop with the rubber stamping. All for accountability and transparency, it's what is best for the kids.


The only thing those three people give a crap about is advancing their insane clown posse agenda. They don't have any substantial experience working in education
Anonymous
This was an interesting vote for me this year. It was not easy and I had a lot of conflicting emotions about the candidates. It’s a mixed bag for sure.
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