School board - who to vote for

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe Coll lost. Now we're stuck with an incumbent for a while.

Is there any way to at least get her off the Presidency? How is the President of the BoE elected?


I do think it’s interesting that Joftus was resounded beaten but Wolff still got a lot of support. I thought everyone was sick of the incumbents. The fact that she was in a position of leadership and showed a remarkable lack of leadership skills is especially jarring.


Brenda isn't perfect, but I would take her over Valerie any day. Valerie is beholden to MCEA. She is on some committee there.


Why is that a bad thing? The union should have a seat at the table since this should be a partnership not board vs the teachers.


Nope. The union has enough representation with all of the seats they buy.


Brenda Wolff has her seat because of the Apple Ballot. That's how she got elected in the first place. She's just as much Apple Ballot as Coll, even more because Wolff came from the Montgomery County Democratic Central Committee leadership.


Like I said, Brenda is the lesser of two evils. Coll wants mandatory masking and is 100% behind union pushes. The union is the main reason schools took so long to open in 2020.


Brenda Wolff voted to keep schools closed for a year. Definitely not the lesser of two evils.


She kept our kids and teachers aafe and as every studied show Southern where schools remained open had similar learning loss, but higher death rates. She's a freaking hero!.
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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe Coll lost. Now we're stuck with an incumbent for a while.

Is there any way to at least get her off the Presidency? How is the President of the BoE elected?


I do think it’s interesting that Joftus was resounded beaten but Wolff still got a lot of support. I thought everyone was sick of the incumbents. The fact that she was in a position of leadership and showed a remarkable lack of leadership skills is especially jarring.


Brenda isn't perfect, but I would take her over Valerie any day. Valerie is beholden to MCEA. She is on some committee there.


Why is that a bad thing? The union should have a seat at the table since this should be a partnership not board vs the teachers.


Nope. The union has enough representation with all of the seats they buy.


Brenda Wolff has her seat because of the Apple Ballot. That's how she got elected in the first place. She's just as much Apple Ballot as Coll, even more because Wolff came from the Montgomery County Democratic Central Committee leadership.


Like I said, Brenda is the lesser of two evils. Coll wants mandatory masking and is 100% behind union pushes. The union is the main reason schools took so long to open in 2020.


Brenda Wolff voted to keep schools closed for a year. Definitely not the lesser of two evils.


She kept our kids and teachers aafe and as every studied show Southern where schools remained open had similar learning loss, but higher death rates. She's a freaking hero!.


There's no reasoning with the anti-masker MAGA crowd, they're just angry they had to spend time with their kids because it's inconvenient to their lifestyle.
Anonymous
Wolff & co haven't performed their primary responsibility (oversight of MCPS/superintendent) to the benefit of MoCo families in a meaningfully detailed way outside of one issue, and that issue, while supported by a majority, is divisive, moreso by the particular paradigms the BOE has encouraged to address it (where less inequitable approaches, ironically, would be more effective). Politicians...
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Anonymous wrote:Wolff & co haven't performed their primary responsibility (oversight of MCPS/superintendent) to the benefit of MoCo families in a meaningfully detailed way outside of one issue, and that issue, while supported by a majority, is divisive, moreso by the particular paradigms the BOE has encouraged to address it (where less inequitable approaches, ironically, would be more effective). Politicians...


Disagree, sure, I read the nutty conspiracy posts about things like bocce here or minor programs some parents don't like, but that's inevitable with any democracy. You can't please everyone... Overall my kids are getting a great education.
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Anonymous wrote:Wolff & co haven't performed their primary responsibility (oversight of MCPS/superintendent) to the benefit of MoCo families in a meaningfully detailed way outside of one issue, and that issue, while supported by a majority, is divisive, moreso by the particular paradigms the BOE has encouraged to address it (where less inequitable approaches, ironically, would be more effective). Politicians...


Disagree, sure, I read the nutty conspiracy posts about things like bocce here or minor programs some parents don't like, but that's inevitable with any democracy. You can't please everyone... Overall my kids are getting a great education.


Like the multi-million dollar embezzlement by the transportation director. Nutty stuff. No one cares if MCPS staff embezzle millions for decades. No school needs the money and we have plenty of bus drivers. Wolff hasn't said a word about that embezzlement and she won't. She knows she can cover it up because MCPS parents are idiots.
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Anonymous wrote:Wolff & co haven't performed their primary responsibility (oversight of MCPS/superintendent) to the benefit of MoCo families in a meaningfully detailed way outside of one issue, and that issue, while supported by a majority, is divisive, moreso by the particular paradigms the BOE has encouraged to address it (where less inequitable approaches, ironically, would be more effective). Politicians...


Disagree, sure, I read the nutty conspiracy posts about things like bocce here or minor programs some parents don't like, but that's inevitable with any democracy. You can't please everyone... Overall my kids are getting a great education.


Could be good for your family. Definitely could be much better and much better run.

Bocce? Red herring.

How about deep dives on curriculum?

Ensuring programs are equally available? Equally implemented? Enough to keep us out of great-if-you-get-it-but-only-for-a-few lotteries?

Facilities that have working & effective HVAC, safe water and no toxin problems? Working toilets?!? Non-forever portable solutions?

Hard conversations with the County Council that result in capital action before the population problems occur? Bowing neither to privilege nor to short-sighted, inefficient political priorities (more effectively addressed otherwise, in any case) to make regular, comprehensive boundary/facility use decisions?

So many things have been left unaddressed or under-addressed for two decades or more. The school system is a hierarchical autocracy with the BOE as the only proper check to ensure it acts in the best interests of the population. I really haven't seen much of that from them.
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Anonymous wrote:Wolff & co haven't performed their primary responsibility (oversight of MCPS/superintendent) to the benefit of MoCo families in a meaningfully detailed way outside of one issue, and that issue, while supported by a majority, is divisive, moreso by the particular paradigms the BOE has encouraged to address it (where less inequitable approaches, ironically, would be more effective). Politicians...


Disagree, sure, I read the nutty conspiracy posts about things like bocce here or minor programs some parents don't like, but that's inevitable with any democracy. You can't please everyone... Overall my kids are getting a great education.


Like the multi-million dollar embezzlement by the transportation director. Nutty stuff. No one cares if MCPS staff embezzle millions for decades. No school needs the money and we have plenty of bus drivers. Wolff hasn't said a word about that embezzlement and she won't. She knows she can cover it up because MCPS parents are idiots.


No more like the person who is angry they bought sports equipment for disabled kids or goes on about some conspiracy about the kid's museum ad infinitum, even though Joffus made his conflict clear up front and recused himself from that decision.
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Anonymous wrote:Wolff & co haven't performed their primary responsibility (oversight of MCPS/superintendent) to the benefit of MoCo families in a meaningfully detailed way outside of one issue, and that issue, while supported by a majority, is divisive, moreso by the particular paradigms the BOE has encouraged to address it (where less inequitable approaches, ironically, would be more effective). Politicians...


Disagree, sure, I read the nutty conspiracy posts about things like bocce here or minor programs some parents don't like, but that's inevitable with any democracy. You can't please everyone... Overall my kids are getting a great education.


What grades are your children in?

When my DC ('22) started in MCPS in 2009, I was thrilled. Everything was lovely. It stayed that way for several years. "MCPS is so great!"

When DC was in HS (pre-pandemic), I was like "Wow, this is such a disappointment." Removing on-level English so everyone was in "honors" was a big problem. Then the pandemic happened. Learning stopped for my DC in March 2020 and I'm not even sure it ever really picked up in the 2021-2022 school year.

I hope your children continue to receive a great education. Many kids don't.
Anonymous
Maybe Wolffe and McKnight can beg the Coast Guard to chopper kids to school this year?

You can't seriously believe Wolffe and McKnight are competent administrators after last year's fiascos involving budget, transportation? Get real.
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Anonymous wrote:Wolff & co haven't performed their primary responsibility (oversight of MCPS/superintendent) to the benefit of MoCo families in a meaningfully detailed way outside of one issue, and that issue, while supported by a majority, is divisive, moreso by the particular paradigms the BOE has encouraged to address it (where less inequitable approaches, ironically, would be more effective). Politicians...


Disagree, sure, I read the nutty conspiracy posts about things like bocce here or minor programs some parents don't like, but that's inevitable with any democracy. You can't please everyone... Overall my kids are getting a great education.


Like the multi-million dollar embezzlement by the transportation director. Nutty stuff. No one cares if MCPS staff embezzle millions for decades. No school needs the money and we have plenty of bus drivers. Wolff hasn't said a word about that embezzlement and she won't. She knows she can cover it up because MCPS parents are idiots.


No more like the person who is angry they bought sports equipment for disabled kids or goes on about some conspiracy about the kid's museum ad infinitum, even though Joffus made his conflict clear up front and recused himself from that decision.


And exactly who goes to Kid Museum? Please post the list, because I'm sure of who hasn't gone and I want to see what millions of taxpayer dollars bought. There are scattered claims by one or two (anonymous) posters, but all that means is that a lot of money may have been spent on a handful of kids? Show me the proof.
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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe Coll lost. Now we're stuck with an incumbent for a while.

Is there any way to at least get her off the Presidency? How is the President of the BoE elected?


I do think it’s interesting that Joftus was resounded beaten but Wolff still got a lot of support. I thought everyone was sick of the incumbents. The fact that she was in a position of leadership and showed a remarkable lack of leadership skills is especially jarring.


Brenda isn't perfect, but I would take her over Valerie any day. Valerie is beholden to MCEA. She is on some committee there.


Why is that a bad thing? The union should have a seat at the table since this should be a partnership not board vs the teachers.


Nope. The union has enough representation with all of the seats they buy.


Brenda Wolff has her seat because of the Apple Ballot. That's how she got elected in the first place. She's just as much Apple Ballot as Coll, even more because Wolff came from the Montgomery County Democratic Central Committee leadership.


Like I said, Brenda is the lesser of two evils. Coll wants mandatory masking and is 100% behind union pushes. The union is the main reason schools took so long to open in 2020.


Brenda Wolff voted to keep schools closed for a year. Definitely not the lesser of two evils.


She kept our kids and teachers aafe and as every studied show Southern where schools remained open had similar learning loss, but higher death rates. She's a freaking hero!.


"There were 697 “serious incidents” at county public schools—calls for service including assaults, weapons offenses and sex offenses—during the 2021-2022 academic year, according to data from the Montgomery County Police Department."
https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/08/29/how-safe-are-montgomery-county-schools/

Blair Stabbing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HETrUmNzaYo

Magruder shooting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klyhyOzhOiA
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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe Coll lost. Now we're stuck with an incumbent for a while.

Is there any way to at least get her off the Presidency? How is the President of the BoE elected?


I do think it’s interesting that Joftus was resounded beaten but Wolff still got a lot of support. I thought everyone was sick of the incumbents. The fact that she was in a position of leadership and showed a remarkable lack of leadership skills is especially jarring.


Brenda isn't perfect, but I would take her over Valerie any day. Valerie is beholden to MCEA. She is on some committee there.


Why is that a bad thing? The union should have a seat at the table since this should be a partnership not board vs the teachers.


Nope. The union has enough representation with all of the seats they buy.


Brenda Wolff has her seat because of the Apple Ballot. That's how she got elected in the first place. She's just as much Apple Ballot as Coll, even more because Wolff came from the Montgomery County Democratic Central Committee leadership.


Like I said, Brenda is the lesser of two evils. Coll wants mandatory masking and is 100% behind union pushes. The union is the main reason schools took so long to open in 2020.


Brenda Wolff voted to keep schools closed for a year. Definitely not the lesser of two evils.


She kept our kids and teachers aafe and as every studied show Southern where schools remained open had similar learning loss, but higher death rates. She's a freaking hero!.


"There were 697 “serious incidents” at county public schools—calls for service including assaults, weapons offenses and sex offenses—during the 2021-2022 academic year, according to data from the Montgomery County Police Department."
https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/08/29/how-safe-are-montgomery-county-schools/

Blair Stabbing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HETrUmNzaYo

Magruder shooting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klyhyOzhOiA


Oh I know I remember all those kids running around with knives in the parking. Lots of Churchill and Whitman last fall. It seemed like the halls of the W's were full of ax murderers!
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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe Coll lost. Now we're stuck with an incumbent for a while.

Is there any way to at least get her off the Presidency? How is the President of the BoE elected?


I do think it’s interesting that Joftus was resounded beaten but Wolff still got a lot of support. I thought everyone was sick of the incumbents. The fact that she was in a position of leadership and showed a remarkable lack of leadership skills is especially jarring.


Brenda isn't perfect, but I would take her over Valerie any day. Valerie is beholden to MCEA. She is on some committee there.


Why is that a bad thing? The union should have a seat at the table since this should be a partnership not board vs the teachers.


Nope. The union has enough representation with all of the seats they buy.


Brenda Wolff has her seat because of the Apple Ballot. That's how she got elected in the first place. She's just as much Apple Ballot as Coll, even more because Wolff came from the Montgomery County Democratic Central Committee leadership.


Like I said, Brenda is the lesser of two evils. Coll wants mandatory masking and is 100% behind union pushes. The union is the main reason schools took so long to open in 2020.


Brenda Wolff voted to keep schools closed for a year. Definitely not the lesser of two evils.


She kept our kids and teachers aafe and as every studied show Southern where schools remained open had similar learning loss, but higher death rates. She's a freaking hero!.


"There were 697 “serious incidents” at county public schools—calls for service including assaults, weapons offenses and sex offenses—during the 2021-2022 academic year, according to data from the Montgomery County Police Department."
https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/08/29/how-safe-are-montgomery-county-schools/

Blair Stabbing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HETrUmNzaYo

Magruder shooting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klyhyOzhOiA


Oh I know I remember all those kids running around with knives in the parking. Lots of Churchill and Whitman last fall. It seemed like the halls of the W's were full of ax murderers!

Don't forget Blair!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't believe Coll lost. Now we're stuck with an incumbent for a while.

Is there any way to at least get her off the Presidency? How is the President of the BoE elected?


I do think it’s interesting that Joftus was resounded beaten but Wolff still got a lot of support. I thought everyone was sick of the incumbents. The fact that she was in a position of leadership and showed a remarkable lack of leadership skills is especially jarring.


Brenda isn't perfect, but I would take her over Valerie any day. Valerie is beholden to MCEA. She is on some committee there.


Why is that a bad thing? The union should have a seat at the table since this should be a partnership not board vs the teachers.


Nope. The union has enough representation with all of the seats they buy.


Brenda Wolff has her seat because of the Apple Ballot. That's how she got elected in the first place. She's just as much Apple Ballot as Coll, even more because Wolff came from the Montgomery County Democratic Central Committee leadership.


Like I said, Brenda is the lesser of two evils. Coll wants mandatory masking and is 100% behind union pushes. The union is the main reason schools took so long to open in 2020.


Brenda Wolff voted to keep schools closed for a year. Definitely not the lesser of two evils.


She kept our kids and teachers aafe and as every studied show Southern where schools remained open had similar learning loss, but higher death rates. She's a freaking hero!.


"There were 697 “serious incidents” at county public schools—calls for service including assaults, weapons offenses and sex offenses—during the 2021-2022 academic year, according to data from the Montgomery County Police Department."
https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/08/29/how-safe-are-montgomery-county-schools/

Blair Stabbing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HETrUmNzaYo

Magruder shooting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klyhyOzhOiA


Oh I know I remember all those kids running around with knives in the parking. Lots of Churchill and Whitman last fall. It seemed like the halls of the W's were full of ax murderers!



Yes, some people at Churchill were threatened by a knife-wielding Whitman student.

https://mocoshow.com/blog/student-assaulted-at-winston-churchill-high-school-by-male-student-from-walt-whitman-high-school/
https://bethesdamagazine.com/2021/10/13/student-at-churchill-high-brought-knife-to-school-police-say/
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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe Coll lost. Now we're stuck with an incumbent for a while.

Is there any way to at least get her off the Presidency? How is the President of the BoE elected?


I do think it’s interesting that Joftus was resounded beaten but Wolff still got a lot of support. I thought everyone was sick of the incumbents. The fact that she was in a position of leadership and showed a remarkable lack of leadership skills is especially jarring.


Brenda isn't perfect, but I would take her over Valerie any day. Valerie is beholden to MCEA. She is on some committee there.


Why is that a bad thing? The union should have a seat at the table since this should be a partnership not board vs the teachers.


Nope. The union has enough representation with all of the seats they buy.


Brenda Wolff has her seat because of the Apple Ballot. That's how she got elected in the first place. She's just as much Apple Ballot as Coll, even more because Wolff came from the Montgomery County Democratic Central Committee leadership.


Like I said, Brenda is the lesser of two evils. Coll wants mandatory masking and is 100% behind union pushes. The union is the main reason schools took so long to open in 2020.


Brenda Wolff voted to keep schools closed for a year. Definitely not the lesser of two evils.


She kept our kids and teachers aafe and as every studied show Southern where schools remained open had similar learning loss, but higher death rates. She's a freaking hero!.


"There were 697 “serious incidents” at county public schools—calls for service including assaults, weapons offenses and sex offenses—during the 2021-2022 academic year, according to data from the Montgomery County Police Department."
https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/08/29/how-safe-are-montgomery-county-schools/

Blair Stabbing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HETrUmNzaYo

Magruder shooting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klyhyOzhOiA


Oh I know I remember all those kids running around with knives in the parking. Lots of Churchill and Whitman last fall. It seemed like the halls of the W's were full of ax murderers!


I think you meant Blair and Magruder?

Whitman - 8 fighting, 1 dangerous substance, 1 attack, 1 threat (no weapons)
Churchill - 8 fighting, 2 threat, 4 dangerous substances, 2 disrespect, 2 attack, 1 weapons
Blair - 1 arson, 7 attack, 14 dangerous substances, 20 disrespect, 5 fighting, 12 threat, 5 weapons
Magruder - 11 attack, 10 dangerous substances, 4 disrespect, 17 fighting, 3 threat, 3 weapons
https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/SafetyGlance/currentyear/SafetyGlance2020.pdf

Or you may have meant when the "Whitman Students" murdered someone?
https://theblackandwhite.net/71161/news/three-whitman-students-charged-with-murder-after-bethesda-killing/

Calling kids from "Greentree Group Home" for troubled youths who are zoned to Whitman as "typical Whitman students" is like saying SMACS are typical Blair students. Both are convenient truths.
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