Loud ATV drivers at night? City government? Police?

[Anonymous]

It’s the one provocateur trying to scare people off with calling them racist and/or lawnmower-ignorant. Ignore. That’s why we can’t have nice things. But tide is turning

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s the one provocateur trying to scare people off with calling them racist and/or lawnmower-ignorant. Ignore. That’s why we can’t have nice things. But tide is turning

What tide is turning? You think you will successfully NIMBY your urban neighborhood into a suburban cul de sac? Good luck with that.

[Anonymous]

It’s already pretty gorgeous. You enjoy the vroom vroom with the loud boom box speakers mounted on the lawnmower. So cool! But yes. The tide is turning.

[Anonymous]

We and many families with children live in an area that has become a playground for these groups. The police is prevented from doing much, and they carry on the whole night at such loud levels and speeds that it’s impossible to sleep and people stay indoors. It’s a very sad state of affairs. Children who need to sleep or study or go to school are being sacrificed for a pretty pitiful excuse for a rush which could be safely practiced where it’s not endangering lives, health and well-being of others. This is the 2nd summer and we are moving out but not everyone can. Having seen first hand what this does to people, especially children (it’s basically a form of torture - noise and sleep deprivation), I would vote for anyone and anything that would stop it in DC borders.

[Anonymous]

An entire generation sacrificed to the few and irrational claims that this is normal or that it’s somehow racist to complain even if the people most affected are POC. A full summer of this and this is the first issue I’m looking for in the ballot, but it’s also moved my vote on every issue and not in the way most on here would like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We and many families with children live in an area that has become a playground for these groups. The police is prevented from doing much, and they carry on the whole night at such loud levels and speeds that it’s impossible to sleep and people stay indoors. It’s a very sad state of affairs. Children who need to sleep or study or go to school are being sacrificed for a pretty pitiful excuse for a rush which could be safely practiced where it’s not endangering lives, health and well-being of others. This is the 2nd summer and we are moving out but not everyone can. Having seen first hand what this does to people, especially children (it’s basically a form of torture - noise and sleep deprivation), I would vote for anyone and anything that would stop it in DC borders.

Welcome to city living. This is what vibrancy means. If this doesn’t appeal to environment that you want to raise your kids, I recommend moving to the suburbs.

[Anonymous]

Just to be clear; most houses didn’t have fancy windows but even where the most modern windows are installed, the noise can’t be blocked out. It’s like trying to sleep in the middle of a motocross or F1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We and many families with children live in an area that has become a playground for these groups. The police is prevented from doing much, and they carry on the whole night at such loud levels and speeds that it’s impossible to sleep and people stay indoors. It’s a very sad state of affairs. Children who need to sleep or study or go to school are being sacrificed for a pretty pitiful excuse for a rush which could be safely practiced where it’s not endangering lives, health and well-being of others. This is the 2nd summer and we are moving out but not everyone can. Having seen first hand what this does to people, especially children (it’s basically a form of torture - noise and sleep deprivation), I would vote for anyone and anything that would stop it in DC borders.

Welcome to city living. This is what vibrancy means. If this doesn’t appeal to environment that you want to raise your kids, I recommend moving to the suburbs.

No it doesn’t, that’s a pathetic excuse. Look at other capitals. Unimaginable. Limit it to a park? What’s the harm in that?
But you reap what you sow. Welcome to the hellscape of your own creation.

[Anonymous]

No need to move to the suburbs. That’s why prices are through the roof in parts of DC and rich get richer. Guess who’s children are getting sacrificed to the “vibrancy”?

[Anonymous]

Then you read complaints about siloization of parts of the city etc. Crime is not really a public health issue (sounds nice) quite frankly but this unquestionably is

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We and many families with children live in an area that has become a playground for these groups. The police is prevented from doing much, and they carry on the whole night at such loud levels and speeds that it’s impossible to sleep and people stay indoors. It’s a very sad state of affairs. Children who need to sleep or study or go to school are being sacrificed for a pretty pitiful excuse for a rush which could be safely practiced where it’s not endangering lives, health and well-being of others. This is the 2nd summer and we are moving out but not everyone can. Having seen first hand what this does to people, especially children (it’s basically a form of torture - noise and sleep deprivation), I would vote for anyone and anything that would stop it in DC borders.

Welcome to city living. This is what vibrancy means. If this doesn’t appeal to environment that you want to raise your kids, I recommend moving to the suburbs.

How do you explain that you equate vibrancy with the favorite pastime of a red state hick exercised by mostly suburbanites who come here, terrorize the city people, and then sleep calmly in their suburban homes where they raise their children in the suburbs? And you can’t even tell this is being done to you? What hope is there for democracy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We and many families with children live in an area that has become a playground for these groups. The police is prevented from doing much, and they carry on the whole night at such loud levels and speeds that it’s impossible to sleep and people stay indoors. It’s a very sad state of affairs. Children who need to sleep or study or go to school are being sacrificed for a pretty pitiful excuse for a rush which could be safely practiced where it’s not endangering lives, health and well-being of others. This is the 2nd summer and we are moving out but not everyone can. Having seen first hand what this does to people, especially children (it’s basically a form of torture - noise and sleep deprivation), I would vote for anyone and anything that would stop it in DC borders.

Children who are most of the boys and ALL of the girls… but who cares right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread has gone completely off the rails. No one cares about hairsplitting over what counts as a dirt bike. That’s not really the main issue here.

No, but it is one of the main hurdles to overcome if you want to solve the problem. Registration, regulation, and enforcement is all tied to the definitions and the definitions are filled with loopholes because they try and regulate each thing separately even though thy are almost all dual-use.

The first step in solving a problem is understanding the structural obstacles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We and many families with children live in an area that has become a playground for these groups. The police is prevented from doing much, and they carry on the whole night at such loud levels and speeds that it’s impossible to sleep and people stay indoors. It’s a very sad state of affairs. Children who need to sleep or study or go to school are being sacrificed for a pretty pitiful excuse for a rush which could be safely practiced where it’s not endangering lives, health and well-being of others. This is the 2nd summer and we are moving out but not everyone can. Having seen first hand what this does to people, especially children (it’s basically a form of torture - noise and sleep deprivation), I would vote for anyone and anything that would stop it in DC borders.

Welcome to city living. This is what vibrancy means. If this doesn’t appeal to environment that you want to raise your kids, I recommend moving to the suburbs.

How do you explain that you equate vibrancy with the favorite pastime of a red state hick exercised by mostly suburbanites who come here, terrorize the city people, and then sleep calmly in their suburban homes where they raise their children in the suburbs? And you can’t even tell this is being done to you? What hope is there for democracy?

If everyone in your community to only engage in recreation in highly regulated manner that you can control, you can accomplish that through a suburban HOA. You cannot accomplish that it an open and vibrant city. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

We will, give it time. This is not open and vibrant by the way. You need to travel a bit, innit?