WHAT?! APS now closed 1/6??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS's covid dashboard shows that less that 10% of APS teachers need to be out because they're covid positive. Duran reported that less than 50% of staff are available for in person instruction. What's up with those other 40%? Is it just teachers refusing to come in? If so, teachers should be charged their PTO days for days they say they'll be out if APS can't open because of teacher absences.

Can you point me to where you are finding that 10% figure? I do not see that on the posted dashboard.

There's a school by school chart on AEM based on APS reported data.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS's covid dashboard shows that less that 10% of APS teachers need to be out because they're covid positive. Duran reported that less than 50% of staff are available for in person instruction. What's up with those other 40%? Is it just teachers refusing to come in? If so, teachers should be charged their PTO days for days they say they'll be out if APS can't open because of teacher absences.

I teach in a neighboring county. I would have had to call in this week if we were open because my kid is Covid positive and need to stay home to take care of her. I am negative. Maybe it’s a similar situation.

APS needs to provide transparency by school. Right now it seems they either don't have the right data or won't share. Either is completely inappropriate. Many believe they're covering up for a sick out by some percentage of teachers.

This info is at your fingertips...
https://apsva.co1.qualtrics.com/public-dashboard/v0/dashboard/60d5f170495a0000108b9941#/dashboard/60d5f170495a0000108b9941?pageId=Page_6460cdc2-d8ad-4c57-9c4d-d2b2b1cac0c6

Positives by building in the past 7 days. Additionally there are another 43 that are out due to being close contacts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS's covid dashboard shows that less that 10% of APS teachers need to be out because they're covid positive. Duran reported that less than 50% of staff are available for in person instruction. What's up with those other 40%? Is it just teachers refusing to come in? If so, teachers should be charged their PTO days for days they say they'll be out if APS can't open because of teacher absences.

I teach in a neighboring county. I would have had to call in this week if we were open because my kid is Covid positive and need to stay home to take care of her. I am negative. Maybe it’s a similar situation.

APS needs to provide transparency by school. Right now it seems they either don't have the right data or won't share. Either is completely inappropriate. Many believe they're covering up for a sick out by some percentage of teachers.

This info is at your fingertips...
https://apsva.co1.qualtrics.com/public-dashboard/v0/dashboard/60d5f170495a0000108b9941#/dashboard/60d5f170495a0000108b9941?pageId=Page_6460cdc2-d8ad-4c57-9c4d-d2b2b1cac0c6

Positives by building in the past 7 days. Additionally there are another 43 that are out due to being close contacts.

At the school board meeting Duran reported he expected 40% staff vacancy. That doesn't come close to matching the reported data.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS's covid dashboard shows that less that 10% of APS teachers need to be out because they're covid positive. Duran reported that less than 50% of staff are available for in person instruction. What's up with those other 40%? Is it just teachers refusing to come in? If so, teachers should be charged their PTO days for days they say they'll be out if APS can't open because of teacher absences.

Can you point me to where you are finding that 10% figure? I do not see that on the posted dashboard.

There's a school by school chart on AEM based on APS reported data.

That guy is posting his own calculations. I'm not saying he's wrong, but that is NOT the APS dashboard. We need consistent transparent reporting, because there's a discrepancy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS's covid dashboard shows that less that 10% of APS teachers need to be out because they're covid positive. Duran reported that less than 50% of staff are available for in person instruction. What's up with those other 40%? Is it just teachers refusing to come in? If so, teachers should be charged their PTO days for days they say they'll be out if APS can't open because of teacher absences.

I teach in a neighboring county. I would have had to call in this week if we were open because my kid is Covid positive and need to stay home to take care of her. I am negative. Maybe it’s a similar situation.

APS needs to provide transparency by school. Right now it seems they either don't have the right data or won't share. Either is completely inappropriate. Many believe they're covering up for a sick out by some percentage of teachers.

Well there was that post on AEM Wednesday, just before APS backtracked and said that schools would actually close on Thursday, urging all teachers to get their leave requests in. Not saying it was a group sick out, but there are certainly some who organized in the direction of a closure.

That said, I love every teacher my kids have ever had, with only a couple of exceptions. I support them wholeheartedly and admire their dedication and hard work. Bless you, teachers. Most of you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS's covid dashboard shows that less that 10% of APS teachers need to be out because they're covid positive. Duran reported that less than 50% of staff are available for in person instruction. What's up with those other 40%? Is it just teachers refusing to come in? If so, teachers should be charged their PTO days for days they say they'll be out if APS can't open because of teacher absences.

Can you point me to where you are finding that 10% figure? I do not see that on the posted dashboard.

There's a school by school chart on AEM based on APS reported data.

That guy is posting his own calculations. I'm not saying he's wrong, but that is NOT the APS dashboard. We need consistent transparent reporting, because there's a discrepancy.

He's adding up the numbers provided by APS in their dashboard. If APS actually shared data in an effective way, maybe parents wouldn't have to make their own plots.

Have you seen a breakdown of expected teacher vacancies for Monday by school and reported reason for the vacancy? I certainly haven't. Nor has actual data been shared to support the closure yesterday. We just get handwaving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS's covid dashboard shows that less that 10% of APS teachers need to be out because they're covid positive. Duran reported that less than 50% of staff are available for in person instruction. What's up with those other 40%? Is it just teachers refusing to come in? If so, teachers should be charged their PTO days for days they say they'll be out if APS can't open because of teacher absences.

I teach in a neighboring county. I would have had to call in this week if we were open because my kid is Covid positive and need to stay home to take care of her. I am negative. Maybe it’s a similar situation.

APS needs to provide transparency by school. Right now it seems they either don't have the right data or won't share. Either is completely inappropriate. Many believe they're covering up for a sick out by some percentage of teachers.

Well there was that post on AEM Wednesday, just before APS backtracked and said that schools would actually close on Thursday, urging all teachers to get their leave requests in. Not saying it was a group sick out, but there are certainly some who organized in the direction of a closure.

That said, I love every teacher my kids have ever had, with only a couple of exceptions. I support them wholeheartedly and admire their dedication and hard work. Bless you, teachers. Most of you.

Does anyone know if teachers that put in leave requests on Thursday were charged that leave? Or did they get a pass because APS closed?

[Anonymous]

I thought this was a great post from one of the private school threads. I know a lot of parents here don't agree and want to let Omicron just run its full course through the community while kids go to school, but I wish we were being more cautious and not planning to go back in person next week:

It's honestly depressing that so many on this thread are clueless about the potential threat of this illness. If you actually follow postings of doctors/scientists/epidemiologists- NOT politicians, government agencies, and Facebook groups with agendas- long COVID is very real and is affecting a significant swath of young and middle-aged vaccinated people. (Examples: Eric Feigl-Ding, Peter Hotez, Scott Gottlieb....)This is NOT the flu. Yes, vaccines and boosters help a lot, but they aren't sufficient! And we can't even get the country to cooperate fully on the vaccination/booster front! And, yes, the data changes as we learn more and as the viruses evolve, so mitigations must evolve too...

Data tracking, testing, and communication is shockingly poor for a country with our wealth and tech sophistication. We have had two inept administration responses to this. The CDC and others made a major messaging error to classify anyone not hospitalized or dead as experiencing a "mild" version of covid. Covid is an illness that, after minimal acute (mild) symptoms have occurred, blood clots can form 4-6 weeks later. There is a long list of symptoms for long covid symptoms/conditions that include neurological and organ damage. Who wants to sign up for that? There is also evidence to suggest that the illness may accelerate early onset dementia and a scary list of other chronic autoimmune illnesses.

I agree that we must send our kids to school. But let's please live in reality. This virus is dangerous. We need to push our schools to install appropriate HVAC mitigation, require use of kn95 or n95 masks, and buy some damn tents and heaters for kids to eat outside when community spread is out of control (like now). I can promise you that several Asian countries are benefitting from their (albeit uncomfortably authoritarian to America's ethos) approach and will have a comparative economic and health advantage coming out of the pandemic. We are literally crippling and killing ourselves at this point with our arrogance, ignorance, and tribal politics.

Totally agree with that parent, fwiw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought this was a great post from one of the private school threads. I know a lot of parents here don't agree and want to let Omicron just run its full course through the community while kids go to school, but I wish we were being more cautious and not planning to go back in person next week:

It's honestly depressing that so many on this thread are clueless about the potential threat of this illness. If you actually follow postings of doctors/scientists/epidemiologists- NOT politicians, government agencies, and Facebook groups with agendas- long COVID is very real and is affecting a significant swath of young and middle-aged vaccinated people. (Examples: Eric Feigl-Ding, Peter Hotez, Scott Gottlieb....)This is NOT the flu. Yes, vaccines and boosters help a lot, but they aren't sufficient! And we can't even get the country to cooperate fully on the vaccination/booster front! And, yes, the data changes as we learn more and as the viruses evolve, so mitigations must evolve too...

Data tracking, testing, and communication is shockingly poor for a country with our wealth and tech sophistication. We have had two inept administration responses to this. The CDC and others made a major messaging error to classify anyone not hospitalized or dead as experiencing a "mild" version of covid. Covid is an illness that, after minimal acute (mild) symptoms have occurred, blood clots can form 4-6 weeks later. There is a long list of symptoms for long covid symptoms/conditions that include neurological and organ damage. Who wants to sign up for that? There is also evidence to suggest that the illness may accelerate early onset dementia and a scary list of other chronic autoimmune illnesses.

I agree that we must send our kids to school. But let's please live in reality. This virus is dangerous. We need to push our schools to install appropriate HVAC mitigation, require use of kn95 or n95 masks, and buy some damn tents and heaters for kids to eat outside when community spread is out of control (like now). I can promise you that several Asian countries are benefitting from their (albeit uncomfortably authoritarian to America's ethos) approach and will have a comparative economic and health advantage coming out of the pandemic. We are literally crippling and killing ourselves at this point with our arrogance, ignorance, and tribal politics.

Totally agree with that parent, fwiw.

APS has no plans to buy more filtration, heaters or tents. All parents who are planning to send their kids in KN95s already have made arrangements. Schools have already sent emails stating there would be outdoor lunch and classroom windows will be open. Parents who are going to vaccinate their kids have done so. We are where we are. It's time for kids to go back to school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought this was a great post from one of the private school threads. I know a lot of parents here don't agree and want to let Omicron just run its full course through the community while kids go to school, but I wish we were being more cautious and not planning to go back in person next week:

It's honestly depressing that so many on this thread are clueless about the potential threat of this illness. If you actually follow postings of doctors/scientists/epidemiologists- NOT politicians, government agencies, and Facebook groups with agendas- long COVID is very real and is affecting a significant swath of young and middle-aged vaccinated people. (Examples: Eric Feigl-Ding, Peter Hotez, Scott Gottlieb....)This is NOT the flu. Yes, vaccines and boosters help a lot, but they aren't sufficient! And we can't even get the country to cooperate fully on the vaccination/booster front! And, yes, the data changes as we learn more and as the viruses evolve, so mitigations must evolve too...

Data tracking, testing, and communication is shockingly poor for a country with our wealth and tech sophistication. We have had two inept administration responses to this. The CDC and others made a major messaging error to classify anyone not hospitalized or dead as experiencing a "mild" version of covid. Covid is an illness that, after minimal acute (mild) symptoms have occurred, blood clots can form 4-6 weeks later. There is a long list of symptoms for long covid symptoms/conditions that include neurological and organ damage. Who wants to sign up for that? There is also evidence to suggest that the illness may accelerate early onset dementia and a scary list of other chronic autoimmune illnesses.

I agree that we must send our kids to school. But let's please live in reality. This virus is dangerous. We need to push our schools to install appropriate HVAC mitigation, require use of kn95 or n95 masks, and buy some damn tents and heaters for kids to eat outside when community spread is out of control (like now). I can promise you that several Asian countries are benefitting from their (albeit uncomfortably authoritarian to America's ethos) approach and will have a comparative economic and health advantage coming out of the pandemic. We are literally crippling and killing ourselves at this point with our arrogance, ignorance, and tribal politics.

Totally agree with that parent, fwiw.

Completely disagree that the virus is a huge threat to people who are triple vaxxed. If you are not triple vaxxed, well, you've made your choices and assumed the risk. Postings like this that portray the vaccines as only moderately helpful just serve to convince the 30% of the population who refuse to get vaccinated that they are doing the right thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS's covid dashboard shows that less that 10% of APS teachers need to be out because they're covid positive. Duran reported that less than 50% of staff are available for in person instruction. What's up with those other 40%? Is it just teachers refusing to come in? If so, teachers should be charged their PTO days for days they say they'll be out if APS can't open because of teacher absences.

I teach in a neighboring county. I would have had to call in this week if we were open because my kid is Covid positive and need to stay home to take care of her. I am negative. Maybe it’s a similar situation.

APS needs to provide transparency by school. Right now it seems they either don't have the right data or won't share. Either is completely inappropriate. Many believe they're covering up for a sick out by some percentage of teachers.

This info is at your fingertips...
https://apsva.co1.qualtrics.com/public-dashboard/v0/dashboard/60d5f170495a0000108b9941#/dashboard/60d5f170495a0000108b9941?pageId=Page_6460cdc2-d8ad-4c57-9c4d-d2b2b1cac0c6

Positives by building in the past 7 days. Additionally there are another 43 that are out due to being close contacts.

The last 7 days there has been no school. The last 10 days there has been no school. The last 14 days there has been no school.

Adult covid spread is high and has nothing at all to do with schools being opened.

Schools can't open because adults are spreading covid to other adults?

Why can't the adults take precautions? Why can't the adults stay home?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS's covid dashboard shows that less that 10% of APS teachers need to be out because they're covid positive. Duran reported that less than 50% of staff are available for in person instruction. What's up with those other 40%? Is it just teachers refusing to come in? If so, teachers should be charged their PTO days for days they say they'll be out if APS can't open because of teacher absences.

Thats only who reports to qualtrics. Did you check close contacts? Also how far back did you go?

Close contacts aren't an issue if you're vaccinated per APS policy and all teachers should be vaccinated.

All teacher should be reporting their positive cases in qualtrics. That's how APS is keeping data.

The 10 day teacher positive graphs are on AEM. Look there.

ASYMPTOMATIC close contacts don’t have to quarantine if they are vaccinated. My guess is that a lot
of staff are showing symptoms, which requires them to stay home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS's covid dashboard shows that less that 10% of APS teachers need to be out because they're covid positive. Duran reported that less than 50% of staff are available for in person instruction. What's up with those other 40%? Is it just teachers refusing to come in? If so, teachers should be charged their PTO days for days they say they'll be out if APS can't open because of teacher absences.

I teach in a neighboring county. I would have had to call in this week if we were open because my kid is Covid positive and need to stay home to take care of her. I am negative. Maybe it’s a similar situation.

APS needs to provide transparency by school. Right now it seems they either don't have the right data or won't share. Either is completely inappropriate. Many believe they're covering up for a sick out by some percentage of teachers.

This info is at your fingertips...
https://apsva.co1.qualtrics.com/public-dashboard/v0/dashboard/60d5f170495a0000108b9941#/dashboard/60d5f170495a0000108b9941?pageId=Page_6460cdc2-d8ad-4c57-9c4d-d2b2b1cac0c6

Positives by building in the past 7 days. Additionally there are another 43 that are out due to being close contacts.

The last 7 days there has been no school. The last 10 days there has been no school. The last 14 days there has been no school.

Adult covid spread is high and has nothing at all to do with schools being opened.

Schools can't open because adults are spreading covid to other adults?

Why can't the adults take precautions? Why can't the adults stay home?

Especially fascinating are the Syphax/Central office numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS's covid dashboard shows that less that 10% of APS teachers need to be out because they're covid positive. Duran reported that less than 50% of staff are available for in person instruction. What's up with those other 40%? Is it just teachers refusing to come in? If so, teachers should be charged their PTO days for days they say they'll be out if APS can't open because of teacher absences.

Can you point me to where you are finding that 10% figure? I do not see that on the posted dashboard.

There's a school by school chart on AEM based on APS reported data.

That guy is posting his own calculations. I'm not saying he's wrong, but that is NOT the APS dashboard. We need consistent transparent reporting, because there's a discrepancy.

He's adding up the numbers provided by APS in their dashboard. If APS actually shared data in an effective way, maybe parents wouldn't have to make their own plots.

Have you seen a breakdown of expected teacher vacancies for Monday by school and reported reason for the vacancy? I certainly haven't. Nor has actual data been shared to support the closure yesterday. We just get handwaving.

Part of his data is from the dashboard (e.g. 10 teachers out at PS 123). His percentages per building are calculated. I would not rely on any data like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought this was a great post from one of the private school threads. I know a lot of parents here don't agree and want to let Omicron just run its full course through the community while kids go to school, but I wish we were being more cautious and not planning to go back in person next week:

It's honestly depressing that so many on this thread are clueless about the potential threat of this illness. If you actually follow postings of doctors/scientists/epidemiologists- NOT politicians, government agencies, and Facebook groups with agendas- long COVID is very real and is affecting a significant swath of young and middle-aged vaccinated people. (Examples: Eric Feigl-Ding, Peter Hotez, Scott Gottlieb....)This is NOT the flu. Yes, vaccines and boosters help a lot, but they aren't sufficient! And we can't even get the country to cooperate fully on the vaccination/booster front! And, yes, the data changes as we learn more and as the viruses evolve, so mitigations must evolve too...

Data tracking, testing, and communication is shockingly poor for a country with our wealth and tech sophistication. We have had two inept administration responses to this. The CDC and others made a major messaging error to classify anyone not hospitalized or dead as experiencing a "mild" version of covid. Covid is an illness that, after minimal acute (mild) symptoms have occurred, blood clots can form 4-6 weeks later. There is a long list of symptoms for long covid symptoms/conditions that include neurological and organ damage. Who wants to sign up for that? There is also evidence to suggest that the illness may accelerate early onset dementia and a scary list of other chronic autoimmune illnesses.

I agree that we must send our kids to school. But let's please live in reality. This virus is dangerous. We need to push our schools to install appropriate HVAC mitigation, require use of kn95 or n95 masks, and buy some damn tents and heaters for kids to eat outside when community spread is out of control (like now). I can promise you that several Asian countries are benefitting from their (albeit uncomfortably authoritarian to America's ethos) approach and will have a comparative economic and health advantage coming out of the pandemic. We are literally crippling and killing ourselves at this point with our arrogance, ignorance, and tribal politics.

Totally agree with that parent, fwiw.

APS has no plans to buy more filtration, heaters or tents. All parents who are planning to send their kids in KN95s already have made arrangements. Schools have already sent emails stating there would be outdoor lunch and classroom windows will be open. Parents who are going to vaccinate their kids have done so. We are where we are. It's time for kids to go back to school.

Ok but they are planning for KN95s for staff and students, along with rapid tests to take home:

KN95s and Test Kits ordered for All Students and Staff

APS has ordered a supply of KN95 masks for staff, particulate filters for an APS-provided student masks and at-home rapid antigen test kits for every staff member and student. Supplies for these items are limited but we anticipate them soon and will send additional communication when availa