| Hmm…I think my favorite “frivolous pursuit” as a (currently) childfree person is paying many thousands of dollars per year in property taxes so your kids can enjoy good public schools. |
| My kids feel like this - They are 17, 20 and 23 years old. They never want to have kids because they fear climate change and they also feel that the Earth will be inhabitable. They are resigned to more illnessess, crime and in future enslavement by rich people with power. |
Climate change is already causing more/more serious natural disasters, refugees, conflicts over resources, and the spread of diseases. (Don't believe me? Ask the national security establishment and the military, which see it as a national security threat.) And it's almost certainly only going to get worse, given both individuals' and governments' unwillingness to take necessary actions (which would have been much less drastic if we'd taken the threat seriously in prior decades). So the world my kid will live in will be more dangerous, less stable, and less pleasant. People don't want to have kids if they think they will have a crap quality of life, or will suffer. |
So true. They don't care for Earth. They care that they cannot have kids and so have pets as a last hurrah. They are also zipping off around the world so that they can "see" everything before it is forever gone. |
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No one is saying that they won't have kids for the sake of environment. They are saying that the climate and environment will be so bad that Earth will be inhabitable. In the meantime. poverty, famine, disease and crime will make lives hard. So why bring a kid in this messed up world? The environment and politics cannot sustain human civilization in a peaceful and positive way.
Just look at how terrible USA has become. It is like a 3rd world country and it is armed to the teeth too. It is a dangerous place. |
| They should get snipped and their tubes tied then. The oligarchs will use their wombs to make more workers and their organs to replace their own aging ones. |
Actually, true. The demand for young healthy sperm and eggs will get ever higher as the wealthy push their child bearing years later and later. |
Please say more about your concern that the Earth will become inhabitable. |
This!. It's not even comparable |
| Good for them! I don't understand people who become enraged over someone else not wanting to have kids. |
Right? Sounds fun and nothing to pity them about. Though as the person who was childless for years and spent holidays with family I have to ask why doesn't your family all get together? Do you only celebrate with immediate family,? |
Good point. I feel sad for people like pp. Kids are great if you want them, but to have no other meaning or sources of happiness in your life is sad to me and also unfair pressure on the kids. |
And when they aren't productive anymore, we can send them to the glue factory. |
Handmaid’s Tale much? |
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I would never suggest that anyone have kids who doesn’t want to, but I still find it sad that consumerism has made having children so unappealing and difficult.
Human life has meaning. That’s why I had kids. |