Did Ellen Greenberg’s fiancé kill her?

[Anonymous]

She committed suicide

[Anonymous]

Ruled a suicide again. I don't see how that is remotely possible.

https://people.com/ellen-greenberg-death-ruled-suicide-again-11828915

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ruled a suicide again. I don't see how that is remotely possible.

https://people.com/ellen-greenberg-death-ruled-suicide-again-11828915

This case is bizarre. I don’t trust the medical examiner’s office. I’m so sad for her family. They’ve fought so hard for so long, and all they’re asking for is for her death to be investigated, which it absolutely should be. The system has failed Ellen repeatedly — at someone’s direction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ruled a suicide again. I don't see how that is remotely possible.

https://people.com/ellen-greenberg-death-ruled-suicide-again-11828915

Ugh! Didn’t she have like 16 stab wounds or something? A half made dinner on the counter?

[Anonymous]

She would have to have a long history of self-harm and suicidality for me to believe this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ruled a suicide again. I don't see how that is remotely possible.

https://people.com/ellen-greenberg-death-ruled-suicide-again-11828915

This case is bizarre. I don’t trust the medical examiner’s office. I’m so sad for her family. They’ve fought so hard for so long, and all they’re asking for is for her death to be investigated, which it absolutely should be. The system has failed Ellen repeatedly — at someone’s direction.

How has it failed her? How many times do you think taxpayer money should go towards it being investigated only to come to the same resolution? And before you say “there should be an independent investigation”, you don’t think that will be biased? Sometimes, weird things actually happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She would have to have a long history of self-harm and suicidality for me to believe this.

Statistically, most people who commit suicide, even in the most gruesome ways, never displayed any signs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stabbing oneself to death seems improbable. I mean slitting ones wrists and then slowly falling asleep/bleeding out in a warm bathtub, after swallowing a bunch of sleeping pills. Hanging oneself in the closet, or putting ones mouth over the tailpipe, or jumping off of a high structure... Yes... but killing oneself in the most brutal and painful way imaginable?

Self inflicted, crazed passion stabs to self, not so much. This has psychopathic male got really angry and lost it crime of passion written all over it.

Don’t realize the mess that would leave behind? Not just on the husband’s person, but it the apartment? How did he hide his own tracks, while still maintaining an obvious crime scene?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ruled a suicide again. I don't see how that is remotely possible.

https://people.com/ellen-greenberg-death-ruled-suicide-again-11828915

This case is bizarre. I don’t trust the medical examiner’s office. I’m so sad for her family. They’ve fought so hard for so long, and all they’re asking for is for her death to be investigated, which it absolutely should be. The system has failed Ellen repeatedly — at someone’s direction.

How has it failed her? How many times do you think taxpayer money should go towards it being investigated only to come to the same resolution? And before you say “there should be an independent investigation”, you don’t think that will be biased? Sometimes, weird things actually happen.

No this case makes zero sense.

It is not reasonable to believe she stabbed herself in all of those areas that many times.

[Anonymous]

I believe she did kill herself, although it’s of course really bizarre and doesn’t make sense. But I do think she did. She was suffering a lot in the end of her life and that is clear from the evidence that has been made public. There have been other really strange and bizarre suicides that have been documented.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ruled a suicide again. I don't see how that is remotely possible.

https://people.com/ellen-greenberg-death-ruled-suicide-again-11828915

This case is bizarre. I don’t trust the medical examiner’s office. I’m so sad for her family. They’ve fought so hard for so long, and all they’re asking for is for her death to be investigated, which it absolutely should be. The system has failed Ellen repeatedly — at someone’s direction.

How has it failed her? How many times do you think taxpayer money should go towards it being investigated only to come to the same resolution? And before you say “there should be an independent investigation”, you don’t think that will be biased? Sometimes, weird things actually happen.

The Medical Examiner’s Office has reviewed their findings. That’s the only “investigation” so far. Her death has not been investigated as a homicide because it’s been ruled a suicide. Multiple privately hired expert medical examiners disagree with the local ME’s findings. Common sense tells us that suicide sounds far fetched, and we know her fiancé engaged in highly suspicious behavior the day of and first couple days after her death. Her family wants homicide detectives to investigate the her death, which they have not done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ruled a suicide again. I don't see how that is remotely possible.

https://people.com/ellen-greenberg-death-ruled-suicide-again-11828915

This case is bizarre. I don’t trust the medical examiner’s office. I’m so sad for her family. They’ve fought so hard for so long, and all they’re asking for is for her death to be investigated, which it absolutely should be. The system has failed Ellen repeatedly — at someone’s direction.

How has it failed her? How many times do you think taxpayer money should go towards it being investigated only to come to the same resolution? And before you say “there should be an independent investigation”, you don’t think that will be biased? Sometimes, weird things actually happen.

The Medical Examiner’s Office has reviewed their findings. That’s the only “investigation” so far. Her death has not been investigated as a homicide because it’s been ruled a suicide. Multiple privately hired expert medical examiners disagree with the local ME’s findings. Common sense tells us that suicide sounds far fetched, and we know her fiancé engaged in highly suspicious behavior the day of and first couple days after her death. Her family wants homicide detectives to investigate the her death, which they have not done.

You can hire experts to say anything. And I disagree that her fiancé acted suspiciously.

[Anonymous]

If only we could get Olivia Benson and Special Agent George Huang on the case. They'd figure it out in less than an hour.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ruled a suicide again. I don't see how that is remotely possible.

https://people.com/ellen-greenberg-death-ruled-suicide-again-11828915

This case is bizarre. I don’t trust the medical examiner’s office. I’m so sad for her family. They’ve fought so hard for so long, and all they’re asking for is for her death to be investigated, which it absolutely should be. The system has failed Ellen repeatedly — at someone’s direction.

How has it failed her? How many times do you think taxpayer money should go towards it being investigated only to come to the same resolution? And before you say “there should be an independent investigation”, you don’t think that will be biased? Sometimes, weird things actually happen.

The Medical Examiner’s Office has reviewed their findings. That’s the only “investigation” so far. Her death has not been investigated as a homicide because it’s been ruled a suicide. Multiple privately hired expert medical examiners disagree with the local ME’s findings. Common sense tells us that suicide sounds far fetched, and we know her fiancé engaged in highly suspicious behavior the day of and first couple days after her death. Her family wants homicide detectives to investigate the her death, which they have not done.

You can hire experts to say anything. And I disagree that her fiancé acted suspiciously.

Her death was ruled a homicide upon autopsy. Shortly afterward, the ruling was changed to suicide, thus ending a homicide investigation that was just beginning. The same employee of the ME’s Office who ruled homicide and then reversed his ruling to suicide has, in recent years, signed a statement saying he no longer believes her death was a suicide. One of the experts hired by the family is pathologist Cyril Wecht, who is one of the most renowned pathologists in the US. Dr. Wecht found that her injuries were not self inflicted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ruled a suicide again. I don't see how that is remotely possible.

https://people.com/ellen-greenberg-death-ruled-suicide-again-11828915

This case is bizarre. I don’t trust the medical examiner’s office. I’m so sad for her family. They’ve fought so hard for so long, and all they’re asking for is for her death to be investigated, which it absolutely should be. The system has failed Ellen repeatedly — at someone’s direction.

How has it failed her? How many times do you think taxpayer money should go towards it being investigated only to come to the same resolution? And before you say “there should be an independent investigation”, you don’t think that will be biased? Sometimes, weird things actually happen.

The Medical Examiner’s Office has reviewed their findings. That’s the only “investigation” so far. Her death has not been investigated as a homicide because it’s been ruled a suicide. Multiple privately hired expert medical examiners disagree with the local ME’s findings. Common sense tells us that suicide sounds far fetched, and we know her fiancé engaged in highly suspicious behavior the day of and first couple days after her death. Her family wants homicide detectives to investigate the her death, which they have not done.

You can hire experts to say anything. And I disagree that her fiancé acted suspiciously.

He lied about being accompanied when he found her body, for one. And what possessed him to break down the door?