What is women’s obsession with “well-educated” men?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here. If you want to be realistic, you pick a *couple* of must-haves.

Okay OP, find me a guy who 1)close to younger siblings/roommates and never beat them up/framed or bullied them 2)can't wait to be a nurturing dad vs indulging the adult industry's role for women (no racist/perverted descriptions of women, would test his sperm) Go....
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Because 90% of the (straight) men out there have such fragile egos that they can’t handle having an significant other who has a fancier degree than they do.


I didn’t go to an Ivy, but possibly a more “intimidating” school, and then I earned a few graduate degrees from very good schools.* SO SO many men out there with chips on their shoulders. Sometimes it doesn’t come out until later, sometimes it comes out within the first five minutes (and this is when the GUY asks where I went to school).

My husband still gets defensive and huffy about it about is the blue (although he hid it for a long time).

You can forestall all that man-baby nonsense if you just have it as a criteria…

*standard disclaimer for the fragile egos out there that I know people with similar degrees who are idiots, and plenty of very smart people without such degrees, as well as plenty of not so smart people without fancy degrees who make significantly more money than smart people with fancy degrees



I’ve never in my life known a man who cares about a woman’s degree(s). At all. It’s just not even remotely on the list for 99% of men. I’d suggest you do some introspection. You seem really bitter and want to blame it on your Masters degree from the Kennedy school? Go get some cats.


DP. And I don't know any men who don't care about education in their female partners. I literally don't know a single man married to a woman who doesn't have a college degree, e.g., and virtually all of my friends and acquaintances are married to people with a similar educational background as themselves (most have post-grad degrees). You seem to want to pretend that assortive mating doesn't exist, but it does and it's a two-way street.[/quote]

+1

The smart guy doesn't want the boring housewife.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:OP here. If you want to be realistic, you pick a *couple* of must-haves. My only two criteria are physical attractiveness and a salary of maybe $70,000/year.

Well if those are your two criteria, what's the problem? With some exceptions, most people making 70K in the DMV are not highly educated. What makes you think that's the issue where you're concerned? And lol at someone being angry a woman might prefer a well-educated partner when looks are his top criterion.


+1

Let’s start a “what is up with “physically attractive” women?” thread.

Oh wait, that would be ridiculous.


I absolutely want to know 'What is men’s obsession with “physical attractiveness” having women?'. I soo want to hear OP's response here or in that thread.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:OP here. If you want to be realistic, you pick a *couple* of must-haves. My only two criteria are physical attractiveness and a salary of maybe $70,000/year. I don’t care one iota whether she went to college. I don’t care if she’s a Democrat or a Republican. I don’t care if her career or hobbies are in areas in which I have no interest, for example if she is a vegan nutritionist or owns a ballet school.

Do you seriously not understand that if your checklist is an endless list of must-haves, that is going to be counterproductive? Do you seriously think you cannot get intellectual stimulation from someone that owns a successful construction business? Do you know how hard it is to run a business? That business owner is creating and winning bids for projects, coordinating with architects and subcontractors, maintaining a working knowledge of building codes and basic structural engineering. Do you think that business owner is incapable of doing anything when he comes home other than drinking beer and watching football? If so, then I have to agree with another poster who said you should just save yourself the time and buy some cats.



Well if those are your two criteria, what's the problem? With some exceptions, most people making 70K in the DMV are not highly educated. What makes you think that's the issue where you're concerned? And lol at someone being angry a woman might prefer a well-educated partner when looks are his top criterion.


There *is* no problem - that’s my point. I’m able to date many nice women of all stripes. I’m not interested in anything serious right now so I let them know that, but when the time comes, I don’t think I’ll have a problem finding a spouse because I don’t unnecessarily restrict my dating pool.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here. If you want to be realistic, you pick a *couple* of must-haves. My only two criteria are physical attractiveness and a salary of maybe $70,000/year. I don’t care one iota whether she went to college. I don’t care if she’s a Democrat or a Republican. I don’t care if her career or hobbies are in areas in which I have no interest, for example if she is a vegan nutritionist or owns a ballet school.

Do you seriously not understand that if your checklist is an endless list of must-haves, that is going to be counterproductive? Do you seriously think you cannot get intellectual stimulation from someone that owns a successful construction business? Do you know how hard it is to run a business? That business owner is creating and winning bids for projects, coordinating with architects and subcontractors, maintaining a working knowledge of building codes and basic structural engineering. Do you think that business owner is incapable of doing anything when he comes home other than drinking beer and watching football? If so, then I have to agree with another poster who said you should just save yourself the time and buy some cats.


Dude, you might not be an incel, strictly speaking, but you’re a mansplainer through and through. You are talking to a bunch of adult women like we are idiots who don’t understand the concept of dating, marriage, education, or business ownership. You look truly absurd and the world does not need your dating advice. (Signed- happily married woman who didn’t think that a guy not being highly educated was a dealbreaker but that being a mansplainer was a dealbreaker)
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. If you want to be realistic, you pick a *couple* of must-haves. My only two criteria are physical attractiveness and a salary of maybe $70,000/year.

Well if those are your two criteria, what's the problem? With some exceptions, most people making 70K in the DMV are not highly educated. What makes you think that's the issue where you're concerned? And lol at someone being angry a woman might prefer a well-educated partner when looks are his top criterion.


+1

Let’s start a “what is up with “physically attractive” women?” thread.

Oh wait, that would be ridiculous.


I absolutely want to know 'What is men’s obsession with “physical attractiveness” having women?'. I soo want to hear OP's response here or in that thread.


There are many different biological and sociological reasons why men value physical attractiveness. Since I was accused of being a mansplainer already, I won’t elaborate further. But it’s a fairly fundamental factor.

It’s kind of like income for men. I actually don’t fault women who only want to date six-figure earners or call them gold diggers. It’s logical that they want that, and there are many reasons for that.

My only gripe is people who have an unreasonable number of non-negotiables on their “checklist“ and then complain about not finding a mate. And let’s be honest, it’s women who do that, not men.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. If you want to be realistic, you pick a *couple* of must-haves. My only two criteria are physical attractiveness and a salary of maybe $70,000/year.

Well if those are your two criteria, what's the problem? With some exceptions, most people making 70K in the DMV are not highly educated. What makes you think that's the issue where you're concerned? And lol at someone being angry a woman might prefer a well-educated partner when looks are his top criterion.


+1

Let’s start a “what is up with “physically attractive” women?” thread.

Oh wait, that would be ridiculous.


I absolutely want to know 'What is men’s obsession with “physical attractiveness” having women?'. I soo want to hear OP's response here or in that thread.


There are many different biological and sociological reasons why men value physical attractiveness. Since I was accused of being a mansplainer already, I won’t elaborate further. But it’s a fairly fundamental factor.

It’s kind of like income for men. I actually don’t fault women who only want to date six-figure earners or call them gold diggers. It’s logical that they want that, and there are many reasons for that.

My only gripe is people who have an unreasonable number of non-negotiables on their “checklist“ and then complain about not finding a mate. And let’s be honest, it’s women who do that, not men.

OP wouldn’t have bothered to start this thread, and definitely wouldn’t have continued to give so much time to it, if he were satisfied with his thriving social life. The complaint is implicit.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. If you want to be realistic, you pick a *couple* of must-haves. My only two criteria are physical attractiveness and a salary of maybe $70,000/year.

Well if those are your two criteria, what's the problem? With some exceptions, most people making 70K in the DMV are not highly educated. What makes you think that's the issue where you're concerned? And lol at someone being angry a woman might prefer a well-educated partner when looks are his top criterion.


+1

Let’s start a “what is up with “physically attractive” women?” thread.

Oh wait, that would be ridiculous.


I absolutely want to know 'What is men’s obsession with “physical attractiveness” having women?'. I soo want to hear OP's response here or in that thread.


There are many different biological and sociological reasons why men value physical attractiveness. Since I was accused of being a mansplainer already, I won’t elaborate further. But it’s a fairly fundamental factor.

It’s kind of like income for men. I actually don’t fault women who only want to date six-figure earners or call them gold diggers. It’s logical that they want that, and there are many reasons for that.

My only gripe is people who have an unreasonable number of non-negotiables on their “checklist“ and then complain about not finding a mate. And let’s be honest, it’s women who do that, not men.

OP wouldn’t have bothered to start this thread, and definitely wouldn’t have continued to give so much time to it, if he were satisfied with his thriving social life. The complaint is implicit.


DING DING DING. Winner.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. If you want to be realistic, you pick a *couple* of must-haves. My only two criteria are physical attractiveness and a salary of maybe $70,000/year.

Well if those are your two criteria, what's the problem? With some exceptions, most people making 70K in the DMV are not highly educated. What makes you think that's the issue where you're concerned? And lol at someone being angry a woman might prefer a well-educated partner when looks are his top criterion.


+1

Let’s start a “what is up with “physically attractive” women?” thread.

Oh wait, that would be ridiculous.


I absolutely want to know 'What is men’s obsession with “physical attractiveness” having women?'. I soo want to hear OP's response here or in that thread.


There are many different biological and sociological reasons why men value physical attractiveness. Since I was accused of being a mansplainer already, I won’t elaborate further. But it’s a fairly fundamental factor.

It’s kind of like income for men. I actually don’t fault women who only want to date six-figure earners or call them gold diggers. It’s logical that they want that, and there are many reasons for that.

My only gripe is people who have an unreasonable number of non-negotiables on their “checklist“ and then complain about not finding a mate. And let’s be honest, it’s women who do that, not men.


You definitely don’t have an “only” gripe. No one on this thread is complaining about a lack of men. You are in an argument with yourself and the rest of us are just amused spectators.
Anonymous
OP, to answer your question - some women want what they can not have.

It is that simple.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. If you want to be realistic, you pick a *couple* of must-haves. My only two criteria are physical attractiveness and a salary of maybe $70,000/year. I don’t care one iota whether she went to college. I don’t care if she’s a Democrat or a Republican. I don’t care if her career or hobbies are in areas in which I have no interest, for example if she is a vegan nutritionist or owns a ballet school.

Do you seriously not understand that if your checklist is an endless list of must-haves, that is going to be counterproductive? Do you seriously think you cannot get intellectual stimulation from someone that owns a successful construction business? Do you know how hard it is to run a business? That business owner is creating and winning bids for projects, coordinating with architects and subcontractors, maintaining a working knowledge of building codes and basic structural engineering. Do you think that business owner is incapable of doing anything when he comes home other than drinking beer and watching football? If so, then I have to agree with another poster who said you should just save yourself the time and buy some cats.



Well if those are your two criteria, what's the problem? With some exceptions, most people making 70K in the DMV are not highly educated. What makes you think that's the issue where you're concerned? And lol at someone being angry a woman might prefer a well-educated partner when looks are his top criterion.

There *is* no problem - that’s my point. I’m able to date many nice women of all stripes. I’m not interested in anything serious right now so I let them know that, but when the time comes, I don’t think I’ll have a problem finding a spouse because I don’t unnecessarily restrict my dating pool.




So you’re a single dude who is having fun with any type of women who will have you right now, basically - nothing serious. And your Ivy educated brain cannot comprehend why women might have more in-depth requirements if looking to date for a committed relationship or marriage? You seem to not have any experience in either. Come back to me when you have a marriage under your belt and then tell us how you’re doing with your good looking $70 K / Yr and-not-much-else-going-for-her spouse.
Anonymous
well educated is such an undefined term. People say they want well read but don't count sci fi / fantasy / sports as reading. People say they want advanced degrees but only in certain fields. People say they want schools but only certain names.

Its funny because I used to get into these conversations all the time, but found that those looking for a well educated man generally weren't educated themselves. I was just looking for somebody to discuss Name of the Wind with.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:OP here. If you want to be realistic, you pick a *couple* of must-haves. My only two criteria are physical attractiveness and a salary of maybe $70,000/year. I don’t care one iota whether she went to college. I don’t care if she’s a Democrat or a Republican. I don’t care if her career or hobbies are in areas in which I have no interest, for example if she is a vegan nutritionist or owns a ballet school.

Do you seriously not understand that if your checklist is an endless list of must-haves, that is going to be counterproductive? Do you seriously think you cannot get intellectual stimulation from someone that owns a successful construction business? Do you know how hard it is to run a business? That business owner is creating and winning bids for projects, coordinating with architects and subcontractors, maintaining a working knowledge of building codes and basic structural engineering. Do you think that business owner is incapable of doing anything when he comes home other than drinking beer and watching football? If so, then I have to agree with another poster who said you should just save yourself the time and buy some cats.


Dude, you might not be an incel, strictly speaking, but you’re a mansplainer through and through. You are talking to a bunch of adult women like we are idiots who don’t understand the concept of dating, marriage, education, or business ownership. You look truly absurd and the world does not need your dating advice. (Signed- happily married woman who didn’t think that a guy not being highly educated was a dealbreaker but that being a mansplainer was a dealbreaker)


NP nothing he said was wrong though
Anonymous
At least in my experience, it’s really really easy for well educated women in their 20s and 30s to meet well educated men in DC. At work, at alumni happy hours, at happy hours with former classmates and/or coworkers. How can a woman find it difficult?
Anonymous
If you turn around OP question, you could ask: What is men's obsession with attractive women?
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