Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 4

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Except the Federalist (who pays for that anyhow???) didn't have Kavanaugh on their list. He was added right after Manafort was indicted.

Whoa, can someone show me that this is true? So BK is definitely there just to protect the president with his views on presidential power as well as how he's likely to rule in Gamble vs US

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/09/trump-pardon-orrin-hatch-supreme-court/571285/

OK but if even we plebians know about this, surely Collins, Murkowski, etc. know about it. Why would even a Republican (with a conscience) vote yes on this guy if this is true? Real Republicans don't like Trump. They've just been making a deal with the Devil as best they can to advance their agenda. They got their tax cuts, they got their Muslim ban, it's not like Trump's legislative actions are automatically reversed if he is impeached or convicted of a crime.

They don't want to be primaried.

does that mean that, they are afraid that if they vote NO that their constituents will vote against them in the primaries?

We need term limits for Senators.

Yes. In the case of Republicans, it means they are afraid someone will run “to their right”, meaning someone will run saying they will be a more conservative/better republican. This was whole “tea party” phenomena. Moderate Republicans were being ousted by right wingers.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the fact that Trump taunted Ford at a rally last night should be an automatic disqualifier for his SCOTUS nominee. At the very least Kavanaugh should show that he has some integrity and withdraw his nomination, saying that it has come too far and the president has sunk too low.

But he doesn’t have integrity. You leave that at the door when you give your soul to the devil/gop.

Gorsuch made a mild comment against Trump's attacks on Judge Curiel. He showed some integrity. Kavanaugh has declined to show any integrity through this process.

That is such utter BS.
He and his family have been put through the wringer with false allegations and attacks from the left. His name has been smeared and his reputation damaged. He is defending himself and his family from the mud being slung at him.

If he hadn't lied with a blanket denial when the Ford allegation first surfaced, he would have been sworn in already. He made a grave tactical error and he dug his hole deeper with further lies and obfuscation. It really is his own fault for his own behavior, both in 1982 and 2018.

Exactly. There were a few different ways he could have handled it. “Belligerent BS” was not the best approach.

Was that an act for DT not to withdraw his nomination?

Trump doesn’t care what BK does or says. He just wants him in that seat. For protection. As a notch in his belt. He will do it at any cost.

You are going to have to explain how Kavanaugh on the Court is protection for Trump?

Kavanaugh does not believe a sitting president can be indicted.

He is 1 of 9 judges. Do four other judges believe the same thing? I doubt that is the case. But if they did that would mean his belief is not out of the norm. People are way overplaying the Kav belief that a sitting President cannot be indicted because he will not be ruling on any cases individually. If RBG and/or Breyer passed or retired and DT was trying to fill their seats with someone with the same views, I would be concerned. One guy on the SCOTUS is not a get out of jail free card.

You are really naive.

Nah.. You are really just not that bright if you think 1 justice is going to control the Supreme court. Keep slurping the dem scare tactics.

I don't think 1 justice is going to control the Supreme Court. It doesn't take 1, just a majority. If you think that there haven't been machinations behind the scenes to get certain conservative judges groomed and appointed to various courts, you're not only naive, but woefully uninformed. It isn't a secret.

That is the cost of losing the election. Trump made a list of potential nominees public before the election to drive conservative turn out for him. Republicans have been nominating Federalist approved judges since 1985. BKs views on sitting Presidents is not a federalist view but a Kavanaugh view from his days in the Bush administration. BK is not a get out of jail free card for DT. He is a whip up the conservative vote pick. I get that Libs don't want federalist judges because of their opinions but the protection of sitting presidents is not a federalist view. Gorsuch was a federalist society approved judge and there was not one issue with his view presidential power.

I don't think BK belongs on the court and I prefer conservative judges. But I also don't agree that he is a get out of jail free card. IF he gets on the court he will have zero impact on whether Trump is charged with a crime or not.

This is pointless, because having a list does not give Trump Carter’s Blanche and bypass the Senate.

BUT, Kavanaugh was not on the list. So there is that.

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I’m starting to think his confirmation would be a good thing for Democrats. Let’s count the ways:

Major dem voter turnout a la year of the woman In 1992 after the Thomas comfirmation.

He’s less conservative than some of the alternatives on the list Trump selects from.

He would have to recuse himself from certain political cases given his testimony.

He would be miserable and that might shorten his term.

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Anonymous wrote:Rachel Mitchell is being called out by other prosecutors, saying a reasonable prosecutor would have to interview the other witnesses (therapist, judge) before making a decision about prosecution. Also ridiculous to not interview the accused when he was there and available. https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/gop-prosecutor-leaps-to-conclusion-despite-incomplete-testimony-1334424643831?v=railb&

Is not there any standard legal practice oath she violated by creating this biased report with incomplete interviews? Shouldn't she be disbarred for being partisan in the guise of her profession?

She was hired by and paid by her client, the Republicans. Of course her report is in the best interests of her client.

Is there a professional ethical standard for lawyers, like there is one for doctors? Can the ABA disbarred someone for violating the professional standard?

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You know what I think.

I think the 8 justices currently on SCOTUS are horrified at what is going on. I think that each one of them are thinking... “Geez. I’m glad nobody searched deep into my high school years because there are things there that they would certainly consider disqualifying.” I think they are disgusted that the argument is coming down to what was written in his HS yearbook and the fact that he likes beer.

It’s a travesty. Nobody is a saint. Nobody has made Kavanaugh out to be a saint. He’s human - just like the other 8 justices who have been confirmed. And, simply because people have leveled false allegations at him, we have come to this. It’s pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what I think.

I think the 8 justices currently on SCOTUS are horrified at what is going on. I think that each one of them are thinking... “Geez. I’m glad nobody searched deep into my high school years because there are things there that they would certainly consider disqualifying.” I think they are disgusted that the argument is coming down to what was written in his HS yearbook and the fact that he likes beer.

It’s a travesty. Nobody is a saint. Nobody has made Kavanaugh out to be a saint. He’s human - just like the other 8 justices who have been confirmed. And, simply because people have leveled false allegations at him, we have come to this. It’s pathetic.

I agree that they are likely horrified. I disagree about why. I doubt any of them had this kind of background (even Thomas) that warranted such scrutiny. The issue is the nominee.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what I think.

I think the 8 justices currently on SCOTUS are horrified at what is going on. I think that each one of them are thinking... “Geez. I’m glad nobody searched deep into my high school years because there are things there that they would certainly consider disqualifying.” I think they are disgusted that the argument is coming down to what was written in his HS yearbook and the fact that he likes beer.

It’s a travesty. Nobody is a saint. Nobody has made Kavanaugh out to be a saint. He’s human - just like the other 8 justices who have been confirmed. And, simply because people have leveled false allegations at him, we have come to this. It’s pathetic.

Very likely many who have gone through a nomination process from either party are thinking this.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what I think.

I think the 8 justices currently on SCOTUS are horrified at what is going on. I think that each one of them are thinking... “Geez. I’m glad nobody searched deep into my high school years because there are things there that they would certainly consider disqualifying.” I think they are disgusted that the argument is coming down to what was written in his HS yearbook and the fact that he likes beer.

It’s a travesty. Nobody is a saint. Nobody has made Kavanaugh out to be a saint. He’s human - just like the other 8 justices who have been confirmed. And, simply because people have leveled false allegations at him, we have come to this. It’s pathetic.

Personally I highly, highly doubt that.

But, I would LOVE for people to start investigating all of the Senators and Representatives and SCJs. The truth will set you free. And I will bet you ten dollars right now that the ladies on the court come back very, very clean.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what I think.

I think the 8 justices currently on SCOTUS are horrified at what is going on. I think that each one of them are thinking... “Geez. I’m glad nobody searched deep into my high school years because there are things there that they would certainly consider disqualifying.” I think they are disgusted that the argument is coming down to what was written in his HS yearbook and the fact that he likes beer.

It’s a travesty. Nobody is a saint. Nobody has made Kavanaugh out to be a saint. He’s human - just like the other 8 justices who have been confirmed. And, simply because people have leveled false allegations at him, we have come to this. It’s pathetic.

Clarence must be thrilled with this nominee!

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For the vicious buffoons supporting Kavanaugh and Trump: (language is from Charles Pierce and article includes video from Trump mocking Ford):


https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a23579738/donald-trump-mock-christine-blasey-ford-sexual-assault/

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I don't think that Kavanaugh will be confirmed. DT's disparaging remarks about Dr. Ford will ensure that some of the key votes needed for K's confirmation will not happen. I wonder if DT did this on purpose? He may pull K from the nomination or K may drop out. DT may nominate another ultra-conservative (Mike Lee?) who is already vetted and this person will be confirmed within lighting speed just ahead of the MT elections. Sadly, I believe that the Supreme Court will tilt towards the right either way.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what I think.

I think the 8 justices currently on SCOTUS are horrified at what is going on. I think that each one of them are thinking... “Geez. I’m glad nobody searched deep into my high school years because there are things there that they would certainly consider disqualifying.” I think they are disgusted that the argument is coming down to what was written in his HS yearbook and the fact that he likes beer.

It’s a travesty. Nobody is a saint. Nobody has made Kavanaugh out to be a saint. He’s human - just like the other 8 justices who have been confirmed. And, simply because people have leveled false allegations at him, we have come to this. It’s pathetic.

Nobody is a saint. But many many people are not liars.

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Anonymous wrote:For the vicious buffoons supporting Kavanaugh and Trump: (language is from Charles Pierce and article includes video from Trump mocking Ford):


https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a23579738/donald-trump-mock-christine-blasey-ford-sexual-assault/

What did you expect? His supporters are fine with that treatment of Ford. Surely they are wondering what took him so long.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m starting to think his confirmation would be a good thing for Democrats. Let’s count the ways:

Major dem voter turnout a la year of the woman In 1992 after the Thomas comfirmation.

He’s less conservative than some of the alternatives on the list Trump selects from.

He would have to recuse himself from certain political cases given his testimony.

He would be miserable and that might shorten his term.

On CNN yesterday they were saying that it is turning out to be a good thing for Republicans for the midterms. Surprising but it is apparently whipping up the white male voters.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what I think.

I think the 8 justices currently on SCOTUS are horrified at what is going on. I think that each one of them are thinking... “Geez. I’m glad nobody searched deep into my high school years because there are things there that they would certainly consider disqualifying.” I think they are disgusted that the argument is coming down to what was written in his HS yearbook and the fact that he likes beer.

It’s a travesty. Nobody is a saint. Nobody has made Kavanaugh out to be a saint. He’s human - just like the other 8 justices who have been confirmed. And, simply because people have leveled false allegations at him, we have come to this. It’s pathetic.

Clarence must be thrilled with this nominee!

True. He is no longer the record holder for most scandalous nomination process.