Superintendent's Recommendation for Richard Montgomery ES #5 Boundaries

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
So parents in B2 should know that they will not have the bus service to RMES5. In these conditions, would they prefer to stay at RPES for a chance of better education (24% FARMS)? Or they would prefer to go to RMES5 for a worse deal (38% FARMS in option A and 32% FARMS in option B)? I don't know, I am just asking.

It is RP2

No other cluster has walkable zones being bussed away to a further school to change FARMS rates by 8%. So I don't think the point has validity either.

Let's see what science says about a difference of 8% in FARMS:
• Low-income students attending schools with a FARMs rate of less than 20% showed a math test score advantage over low-income students in other schools after just three years of attendance;
• Move that threshold to 25%, and it takes four years of attendance for low-income students to benefit from lower-poverty schools;
• At 30%, low-income students did not benefit until close to the end of their elementary years, and
• there was no performance difference at all between low-income students attending schools with less than 35% of peers eligible for FARMs and up to 85% eligible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1 mile in 20 minutes is a comfortable walking speed for an adult -- not a brisk walk. I think that you can walk 0.9 miles in 20 minutes with a kindergartner. In fact, I've pretty sure I've done it. I also walked 1.1 miles to school, by myself, starting at age 6. Right here in the US. Sometimes there was snow (but it was mostly flat, not uphill both ways). So it can be done.

Good luck letting your 6yo walk alone nowadays. The child protection services will be all over you for neglect.

[Anonymous]

here is a link to an image that shows what the typcial morning commute for fallsgrove to new school would be

https://ibb.co/kQwqF6


if you think thats reasonable, i dont know what else to tell you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1 mile in 20 minutes is a comfortable walking speed for an adult -- not a brisk walk. I think that you can walk 0.9 miles in 20 minutes with a kindergartner. In fact, I've pretty sure I've done it. I also walked 1.1 miles to school, by myself, starting at age 6. Right here in the US. Sometimes there was snow (but it was mostly flat, not uphill both ways). So it can be done.

Good luck letting your 6yo walk alone nowadays. The child protection services will be all over you for neglect.

Indeed. But if a 6-year-old alone can do it, a 6-year-old accompanied by an adult can do it too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:here is a link to an image that shows what the typcial morning commute for fallsgrove to new school would be

https://ibb.co/kQwqF6


if you think thats reasonable, i dont know what else to tell you.

Do you have a snapshot of the current commute for RP5?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:here is a link to an image that shows what the typcial morning commute for fallsgrove to new school would be

https://ibb.co/kQwqF6


if you think thats reasonable, i dont know what else to tell you.

Here are the current bus times for kids in Ritchie Park. Notice that the earliest bus starts to pick up children at 8:18
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/transportation/busroutes/02227bus.pdf
Here are the current bus times for kids in Beall. Notice that the earliest bus starts to pick up children at 8:09
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/transportation/busroutes/02207bus.pdf

Let people who have worse commute whine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RP2 - as with all zones, the walkability depends on where you are, there are close ends and farther ends. The walk from the Fields apartments to RMES#5 is about 17 minutes/.9 miles according to Google Maps, and that sounds about right to me. I've walked it before. For Fireside it's much closer.

Get a kindergartener and walk the .9 miles in 17 minutes.

I agree that it is harder to walk that distance for a younger child. But what are you saying? Kids at the outer edges of MCPS walk zones should be bussed to schools further away because it takes them longer to walk?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RP2 - as with all zones, the walkability depends on where you are, there are close ends and farther ends. The walk from the Fields apartments to RMES#5 is about 17 minutes/.9 miles according to Google Maps, and that sounds about right to me. I've walked it before. For Fireside it's much closer.

Get a kindergartener and walk the .9 miles in 17 minutes.

I agree that it is harder to walk that distance for a younger child. But what are you saying? Kids at the outer edges of MCPS walk zones should be bussed to schools further away because it takes them longer to walk?

People, stop putting words in my mouth! I was just saying that 17 minutes is not realistic time frame for a kindergartner to walk 0.9 miles. I didn't ask for a bus or for MCPS to change its policies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:here is a link to an image that shows what the typcial morning commute for fallsgrove to new school would be

https://ibb.co/kQwqF6


if you think thats reasonable, i dont know what else to tell you.

Here are the current bus times for kids in Ritchie Park. Notice that the earliest bus starts to pick up children at 8:18
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/transportation/busroutes/02227bus.pdf
Here are the current bus times for kids in Beall. Notice that the earliest bus starts to pick up children at 8:09
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/transportation/busroutes/02207bus.pdf

Let people who have worse commute whine.

DP... I don't live in Beall, so I don't know what zones these buses are in, but what would be the commute time for the zones that will be re-assigned to new ES? Does it make the bus times longer or shorter? I think that's the key point. No one wants to be rezoned to make the commute time longer (hence, one of the reasons people are against C, not to mention screwing TB and their Title 1 status).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:here is a link to an image that shows what the typcial morning commute for fallsgrove to new school would be

https://ibb.co/kQwqF6


if you think thats reasonable, i dont know what else to tell you.

Here are the current bus times for kids in Ritchie Park. Notice that the earliest bus starts to pick up children at 8:18
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/transportation/busroutes/02227bus.pdf
Here are the current bus times for kids in Beall. Notice that the earliest bus starts to pick up children at 8:09
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/transportation/busroutes/02207bus.pdf

Let people who have worse commute whine.

Those stops are going to be zoned to closer schools which will significantly reduce their commute time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:here is a link to an image that shows what the typcial morning commute for fallsgrove to new school would be

https://ibb.co/kQwqF6


if you think thats reasonable, i dont know what else to tell you.

Here are the current bus times for kids in Ritchie Park. Notice that the earliest bus starts to pick up children at 8:18
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/transportation/busroutes/02227bus.pdf
Here are the current bus times for kids in Beall. Notice that the earliest bus starts to pick up children at 8:09
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/transportation/busroutes/02207bus.pdf

Let people who have worse commute whine.

Those stops are going to be zoned to closer schools which will significantly reduce their commute time.

This is completely irrelevant. Somebody WILL have the longest commute in the cluster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:here is a link to an image that shows what the typcial morning commute for fallsgrove to new school would be

https://ibb.co/kQwqF6


if you think thats reasonable, i dont know what else to tell you.

Do you have a snapshot of the current commute for RP5?

Still waiting...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:here is a link to an image that shows what the typcial morning commute for fallsgrove to new school would be

https://ibb.co/kQwqF6


if you think thats reasonable, i dont know what else to tell you.

Do you have a snapshot of the current commute for RP5?

Still waiting...

rather than waiting, why dont you just plug in the information into google maps yourself?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:here is a link to an image that shows what the typcial morning commute for fallsgrove to new school would be

https://ibb.co/kQwqF6


if you think thats reasonable, i dont know what else to tell you.

Here are the current bus times for kids in Ritchie Park. Notice that the earliest bus starts to pick up children at 8:18
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/transportation/busroutes/02227bus.pdf
Here are the current bus times for kids in Beall. Notice that the earliest bus starts to pick up children at 8:09
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/transportation/busroutes/02207bus.pdf

Let people who have worse commute whine.

Those stops are going to be zoned to closer schools which will significantly reduce their commute time.

This is completely irrelevant. Somebody WILL have the longest commute in the cluster.

DP.. it is relevant. The point is that people shouldn't have a LONGER commute than they already do. So, if being rezoned increases commute time for ANY of the Beall zones, then yes, it's a bad plan. Is this the case?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DP.. it is relevant. The point is that people shouldn't have a LONGER commute than they already do. So, if being rezoned increases commute time for ANY of the Beall zones, then yes, it's a bad plan. Is this the case?

Is that stated MCPS policy?