Superintendent's Recommendation for Richard Montgomery ES #5 Boundaries

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pierzchala lives in CG1 and his wife works at CGES. He has had huge voter support from CG1 and CG3 in the last election. While he may say he supports Alt A in the best interest of Rockville, I'm not convinced he is fully unbiased.

So, it's a political move. Overcrowd CG so he can get re-elected. So, so poor. Someone should make him live in a portable for a few weeks.

How does it overcrowd CG?

Can they allow all siblings that live in CG attending CI to get grandfathered in to RM5? Not sure if that would help but seems reasonable. Or maybe offer 10 spots for CI to CG kids. I mean we are talking 16 spots and then 9 spots over capacity the first 2 years and it decreases each year. This is not overcrowding the school.

Most of CG but King Farm want them to stay. And really, why is CG now crowded? King Farm!

Not sure this is true - I think that you will find people from WG, CG, KF, and Derwood that want low capacity for CG - under 100%. As for overcrowding, let's not forget that CG was modernized in mid/late 2000s and was quickly overcrowded. The MCPS projections only go out 6 years and CG is at 100% in option A. Does this account for unplanned or future growth... no? So, I think that MCPS staff and BOE may want to think about that or CG will be in portables in future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pierzchala lives in CG1 and his wife works at CGES. He has had huge voter support from CG1 and CG3 in the last election. While he may say he supports Alt A in the best interest of Rockville, I'm not convinced he is fully unbiased.

So, it's a political move. Overcrowd CG so he can get re-elected. So, so poor. Someone should make him live in a portable for a few weeks.

He won't be getting my vote - that's for sure. Sacrifice kids for an election.

Sacrifice kids? Please stop

If Twinbrook and everyone else seems okay with them staying slightly over capacity to keep their school completely together, why not CG?

As a matter of fact TB will have more over capacity as it increases than CG has and it decreases. CG never has more than 16 kids over capacity in 5 years. TB has 28 and it is school in desperate need of a updating.


People on here pushing for CG. Why aren't you pushing for TB?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:RP2 - as with all zones, the walkability depends on where you are, there are close ends and farther ends. The walk from the Fields apartments to RMES#5 is about 17 minutes/.9 miles according to Google Maps, and that sounds about right to me. I've walked it before. For Fireside it's much closer.

Get a kindergartener and walk the .9 miles in 17 minutes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pierzchala lives in CG1 and his wife works at CGES. He has had huge voter support from CG1 and CG3 in the last election. While he may say he supports Alt A in the best interest of Rockville, I'm not convinced he is fully unbiased.

So, it's a political move. Overcrowd CG so he can get re-elected. So, so poor. Someone should make him live in a portable for a few weeks.

How does it overcrowd CG?

Can they allow all siblings that live in CG attending CI to get grandfathered in to RM5? Not sure if that would help but seems reasonable. Or maybe offer 10 spots for CI to CG kids. I mean we are talking 16 spots and then 9 spots over capacity the first 2 years and it decreases each year. This is not overcrowding the school.

Most of CG but King Farm want them to stay. And really, why is CG now crowded? King Farm!

Not sure this is true - I think that you will find people from WG, CG, KF, and Derwood that want low capacity for CG - under 100%. As for overcrowding, let's not forget that CG was modernized in mid/late 2000s and was quickly overcrowded. The MCPS projections only go out 6 years and CG is at 100% in option A. Does this account for unplanned or future growth... no? So, I think that MCPS staff and BOE may want to think about that or CG will be in portables in future.

You are overcrowded because King Farm. Remove them and send them to RM5. Everyone seems okay with making RP5 even though it is 30min bus ride. Let's just let King Farm go. I say this as having no affiliation with CG. It just seems ridiculous that you are creating about 10 kids or so over capacity. I am not buying it. Everyone I have talked to from CG seems fine they are staying. Why didn't anyone speak against WG at the hearing? Proposed B instead?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pierzchala lives in CG1 and his wife works at CGES. He has had huge voter support from CG1 and CG3 in the last election. While he may say he supports Alt A in the best interest of Rockville, I'm not convinced he is fully unbiased.

So, it's a political move. Overcrowd CG so he can get re-elected. So, so poor. Someone should make him live in a portable for a few weeks.

Option A solves CGES's overcrowding. The before-and-after numbers are profound.

What A does not do is accommodate New Mark Commons folks who want students in apartments on Monroe Street to continue to be bussed out of the community, when in fact those students can essentially WALK to RMES #5.

I don't think they can walk. Is there a walk thru?

Also, how is RP3 not in any proposals to move to RM5 but RP5 and RP4 are? It makes no sense.

A lot of it makes no sense. And to the folks saying Option A leaves CG at or just above capacity, so does option C, yet, that option is there, too. I honestly don't know if they put forth options that were just to show how awful it would be if they try to balance out FARMs for the whole cluster or based on proxomity alone, or if they are seriously considering those options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RP2 - as with all zones, the walkability depends on where you are, there are close ends and farther ends. The walk from the Fields apartments to RMES#5 is about 17 minutes/.9 miles according to Google Maps, and that sounds about right to me. I've walked it before. For Fireside it's much closer.

Get a kindergartener and walk the .9 miles in 17 minutes.

Oh I agree. I think short bus ride > long walk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RP2 - as with all zones, the walkability depends on where you are, there are close ends and farther ends. The walk from the Fields apartments to RMES#5 is about 17 minutes/.9 miles according to Google Maps, and that sounds about right to me. I've walked it before. For Fireside it's much closer.

Get a kindergartener and walk the .9 miles in 17 minutes.

Furthest area for TB to walk is the full mile. Pretty sure they have K students too. They don't whine. Why are you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RP2 - as with all zones, the walkability depends on where you are, there are close ends and farther ends. The walk from the Fields apartments to RMES#5 is about 17 minutes/.9 miles according to Google Maps, and that sounds about right to me. I've walked it before. For Fireside it's much closer.

Get a kindergartener and walk the .9 miles in 17 minutes.

Furthest area for TB to walk is the full mile. Pretty sure they have K students too. They don't whine. Why are you?

I was not whining. I was pointing out that you can't walk .9 miles in 17 minutes when you are towing a kindergartener. 17 minutes is estimated for average adult walking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RP2 - as with all zones, the walkability depends on where you are, there are close ends and farther ends. The walk from the Fields apartments to RMES#5 is about 17 minutes/.9 miles according to Google Maps, and that sounds about right to me. I've walked it before. For Fireside it's much closer.

Get a kindergartener and walk the .9 miles in 17 minutes.

Get a k student to walk the full mile in 3 feet of snow uphill with 50 mph winds.

EVERY school in MCPS has a 1 mile walker boundary if there are no main roads to cross. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Last time I checked, every school has K students too.

75% of D.C. Kids go to an elementary school outside of their neighborhood school due to charters. Even kids in their own neighborhood school walk far because so many have closed due to enrollment. There is no bus service. They have high FARMS. DC rarely even closes for snow. The kids get to school.

Kids in RP2 are just as capable as all the other schools and areas that have walkers. Stop being so dramatic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RP2 - as with all zones, the walkability depends on where you are, there are close ends and farther ends. The walk from the Fields apartments to RMES#5 is about 17 minutes/.9 miles according to Google Maps, and that sounds about right to me. I've walked it before. For Fireside it's much closer.

Get a kindergartener and walk the .9 miles in 17 minutes.

Get a k student to walk the full mile in 3 feet of snow uphill with 50 mph winds.

EVERY school in MCPS has a 1 mile walker boundary if there are no main roads to cross. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Last time I checked, every school has K students too.

75% of D.C. Kids go to an elementary school outside of their neighborhood school due to charters. Even kids in their own neighborhood school walk far because so many have closed due to enrollment. There is no bus service. They have high FARMS. DC rarely even closes for snow. The kids get to school.

Kids in RP2 are just as capable as all the other schools and areas that have walkers. Stop being so dramatic.

Technically, there are schools that are grades 3-5 only...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RP2 - as with all zones, the walkability depends on where you are, there are close ends and farther ends. The walk from the Fields apartments to RMES#5 is about 17 minutes/.9 miles according to Google Maps, and that sounds about right to me. I've walked it before. For Fireside it's much closer.

Get a kindergartener and walk the .9 miles in 17 minutes.

Oh I agree. I think short bus ride > long walk.

Then go to the next board meeting and propose that for all kids in the county, not just one neighborhood. Tell them a short bus to a further school instead of walking to a neighborhood school for everyone. No more walkers. No more proximity. Let them know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pierzchala lives in CG1 and his wife works at CGES. He has had huge voter support from CG1 and CG3 in the last election. While he may say he supports Alt A in the best interest of Rockville, I'm not convinced he is fully unbiased.

So, it's a political move. Overcrowd CG so he can get re-elected. So, so poor. Someone should make him live in a portable for a few weeks.

He won't be getting my vote - that's for sure. Sacrifice kids for an election.

Sacrifice kids? Please stop

If Twinbrook and everyone else seems okay with them staying slightly over capacity to keep their school completely together, why not CG?

As a matter of fact TB will have more over capacity as it increases than CG has and it decreases. CG never has more than 16 kids over capacity in 5 years. TB has 28 and it is school in desperate need of a updating.


People on here pushing for CG. Why aren't you pushing for TB?

I am pushing fro Twinbrook. I emailed BOE and begged them not to do C or D. Twinbrook doesn't want to be split up. They want to remain at or above capacity. They want to receive Title 1 funds. I'm not about to disagree with the parents of that school. I learned recently that Twinbrook was not supposed to be part of the boundary study. As someone said Thursday night in the hearing, "I think everyone is against C and D. No one has spoken in favor of those Alternatives."

I am also begging MCPS to stop screwing Twinbrook over and modernize their school. They have been pushed farther and farther back on the CIP since my kids have been in public school (2009). MCPS should be ashamed of how they have treated Twinbrook. (And Poolesville, too.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RP2 - as with all zones, the walkability depends on where you are, there are close ends and farther ends. The walk from the Fields apartments to RMES#5 is about 17 minutes/.9 miles according to Google Maps, and that sounds about right to me. I've walked it before. For Fireside it's much closer.

Get a kindergartener and walk the .9 miles in 17 minutes.

Get a k student to walk the full mile in 3 feet of snow uphill with 50 mph winds.

EVERY school in MCPS has a 1 mile walker boundary if there are no main roads to cross. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Last time I checked, every school has K students too.

75% of D.C. Kids go to an elementary school outside of their neighborhood school due to charters. Even kids in their own neighborhood school walk far because so many have closed due to enrollment. There is no bus service. They have high FARMS. DC rarely even closes for snow. The kids get to school.

Kids in RP2 are just as capable as all the other schools and areas that have walkers. Stop being so dramatic.

So parents in B2 should know that they will not have the bus service to RMES5. In these conditions, would they prefer to stay at RPES for a chance of better education (24% FARMS)? Or they would prefer to go to RMES5 for a worse deal (38% FARMS in option A and 32% FARMS in option B)? I don't know, I am just asking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RP2 - as with all zones, the walkability depends on where you are, there are close ends and farther ends. The walk from the Fields apartments to RMES#5 is about 17 minutes/.9 miles according to Google Maps, and that sounds about right to me. I've walked it before. For Fireside it's much closer.

Get a kindergartener and walk the .9 miles in 17 minutes.

Get a k student to walk the full mile in 3 feet of snow uphill with 50 mph winds.

EVERY school in MCPS has a 1 mile walker boundary if there are no main roads to cross. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Last time I checked, every school has K students too.

75% of D.C. Kids go to an elementary school outside of their neighborhood school due to charters. Even kids in their own neighborhood school walk far because so many have closed due to enrollment. There is no bus service. They have high FARMS. DC rarely even closes for snow. The kids get to school.

Kids in RP2 are just as capable as all the other schools and areas that have walkers. Stop being so dramatic.

So parents in B2 should know that they will not have the bus service to RMES5. In these conditions, would they prefer to stay at RPES for a chance of better education (24% FARMS)? Or they would prefer to go to RMES5 for a worse deal (38% FARMS in option A and 32% FARMS in option B)? I don't know, I am just asking.

It is RP2

No other cluster has walkable zones being bussed away to a further school to change FARMS rates by 8%. So I don't think the point has validity either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RP2 - as with all zones, the walkability depends on where you are, there are close ends and farther ends. The walk from the Fields apartments to RMES#5 is about 17 minutes/.9 miles according to Google Maps, and that sounds about right to me. I've walked it before. For Fireside it's much closer.

Get a kindergartener and walk the .9 miles in 17 minutes.

Furthest area for TB to walk is the full mile. Pretty sure they have K students too. They don't whine. Why are you?

I was not whining. I was pointing out that you can't walk .9 miles in 17 minutes when you are towing a kindergartener. 17 minutes is estimated for average adult walking.

1 mile in 20 minutes is a comfortable walking speed for an adult -- not a brisk walk. I think that you can walk 0.9 miles in 20 minutes with a kindergartner. In fact, I've pretty sure I've done it. I also walked 1.1 miles to school, by myself, starting at age 6. Right here in the US. Sometimes there was snow (but it was mostly flat, not uphill both ways). So it can be done.