Johnny Depp trial in Fairfax County

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Anonymous wrote:It is stunning how many multi paragraph screeds are written by “fellow uterus havers” who think Heard saying “suck my dick” means he was defamed. How do you ladies manage life?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know what the truth is between these two people, but I am so troubled by the tenor of the comments about Amber Heard. I can't remember the last time there has been such online viciousness all against a single celebrity in a he said/she said situation. The misogyny here makes me seriously worried for my daughter. If Amber Heard is lying and has had a multi-year plan to increase her profile, that is a bummer. But the thousands of people coming after her online, trying to end her career (the petition to have her removed from Aquaman) and publicly shamed - what in the world is happening? That guy from Empire (Smolett?) faked his assault for publicity and was convicted and didn't go through 10% of this hatred.

Hard agree. This has been freaking me out also. Thanks for saying this!

Absolutely agree. And so many fronting like Johnny’s avenging angels wtf? It’s clear he was/is an alcoholic and an addict who was prone to violent rages and who behaved beyond unprofessionally on set until Disney couldn’t take it anymore. I personally think the truth lies somewhere in the middle of these two unlikable people, and cannot believe so many believe Johnny is some kind of an angelic victim. It’s sick.

I also agree! People are saying how likable he is and how horrible she is. The guy sent texts talking about burning and killing her. He's an unstable drug addict who definitely verbally abused her and probably wouldn't even remember if he hit her based on how messed up he was during the recordings. Also, I'm sick of people saying "why did she record their fight?", "She was setting him up!" in domestic abuse if you don't document the incidents, people are not going to believe you. That is the ONLY thing being proven by this case. She's definately messed up too, but he's the one dragging this out and is set on publicly humiliating her.

Don’t forget the text where he said he then wanted to f#ck her corpse to make sure she was really dead.

How can anyone support this guy after seeing his texts? Those are seriously sick. While I think AH also abused him and likely lied or at least exaggerated, there is no way you can convince me he is not a domestic abuser after seeing these. Normal men don’t talk like this. And people don’t apologize for the monster unless they really had something to apologize for. I predict he loses this case and hope he never works again. I am truly sickened that there are so many people who support a man who talked about burning and drowning his wife then f-ing her corpse. Sick!

You’re not wrong about saying he likely abused her…but to comment on how he writes in his texts as a basis to not support someone. She tells her husband to suck her dick. That’s pretty nasty stuff. “Normal women don’t talk like this.” Neither deserves support.

Telling a man to suck a di** vs texting about your dead wife’s body in a trunk and punching her in the face …. Yeah, totally the same thing.

Neither are okay. Your standards are very low.

One is the commonly used equivalent of telling someone to go eff themselves, which is hardly becoming, but has nothing in common with telling someone you want to rape and kill them.

DP. Except Amber actually cut off Johnny's finger.

You are a liar. Shame on you.

Yes this has been debunked. As has the edited audio people are so fond of pointing at. And no, she didn't poop in the bed. Again the UK judge clearly went over all of this. It's not hard to find.

I didn't pay much attention before this trial so I just assumed they were both terrible. But now I realize that it was because of a massive PR campaign by Depp. He's disgusting.

He is, but I am more stunned and appalled by the women taking up for him.

I'm appalled as well at seeing/learning about this toxic relationship and standing by him.

I would never stand by any man that calls a female derogatory names....

But it's okay for AH to call him these names, right? She can mock his age, weight, career status, fatherhood, alcohol abuse, drug addiction...tell him to suck her d###.....these should all be okay because he's a male, right?

This is what I don't get. I'm supposed to be on AH's team because I, too, possess a uterus? I've followed the trial, I've listened to the testimony, and I actually went into this with an open mind. I've never watched JD movies, and haven't ever been into him or followed his career. He sounds like a drunk and a drug addict. But this trial isn't about how sweet he is or isn't. The evidence as presented has shown that SHE was abusive and while he likely was too, much of what I've heard from his team is that he spent a good deal of time hiding in bathrooms and trying to get away from her, while she's sitting there alleging all kinds of DV with no real evidence of injury. NO medical reports, police reports, even photos of swollen noses? She could take all those photos of him passed out, photos of broken things, stuff scribbled on mirrors, etc. But she never took a clear photo of her swollen nose and the subsequent black eyes from it? Makeup artists are putting makeup on her the next morning and saying they saw NOTHING on her face? She's just not believable, simply because she claims she is. There must be some burden of proof, even with DV. Often times, the burden of proof reveals itself during the police response or medical report. Or the actual broken nose in the morning. In this case, there are none.

So, yeah, I'm not on JD's team necessarily, because I think they're both nuts. I'm just not on her side and question why I should be expected to be just because she's claiming DV -- with no real proof. I'm so over this whole MeToo movement notion that as long as a woman claims harassment or DV, she is to be believed. Careers, reputations, etc can and should be ruined because the woman is to be believed at all costs. This trial isn't about personalities, or even drug and alcohol abuse. It's about whether or not her allegation of being a DV survivor are true in light of the impact those allegations have made to his career.

Defamation. It’s about defamation and he brought the action.

“She also is not my cup of tea” doesn’t cut it. By “it” I mean, it’s irrelevant to his claim and her counterclaim, and you fail yet again in trying to come across as having a balanced, reasoned take. Poor thing.

People can't cope with the fact that they participated in the public harassment of an abuse victim so they double down.

Heard's expert witnesses are literally showing how they hired bots to harass her.

Yup. They have to prove to themselves that she’s the devil, it’s not that they’ve bought into misogyny and into a deranged fantasy life about how awesome THEY would’ve been with Kate Moss’s former co-destroyer of hotel rooms. It’s sick.

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Anonymous wrote:It is stunning how many multi paragraph screeds are written by “fellow uterus havers” who think Heard saying “suck my dick” means he was defamed. How do you ladies manage life?

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yes, it's a good question.

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So I have read in multiple places now that Heard’s counsel has as of today proven a financial link between Depp and bot farms attacking her. Do you asshole women defending him - if you are indeed women - not feel a little forking stupid right now?

You’re too old, too unpretty and too unspecial for him. But at least you all have each other!

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How about Amber’s ex-assistant saying she stole her rape story. What’s that all about??

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Anonymous wrote:How about Amber’s ex-assistant saying she stole her rape story. What’s that all about??

That never made sense. Her assistant said she was raped by someone holding a machete. Heard said she was raped with a bottle. Other than the basic fact they both claimed sexual assault there are no similarities.

There's a huge amount of outright lies out there.

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Anonymous wrote:How about Amber’s ex-assistant saying she stole her rape story. What’s that all about??

That never made sense. Her assistant said she was raped by someone holding a machete. Heard said she was raped with a bottle. Other than the basic fact they both claimed sexual assault there are no similarities.

There's a huge amount of outright lies out there.

The assistant also claims AH sent her abusive texts but didn't produce them and describes never seeing JD out of control. She is also clearly disgruntled about her firing and AH says they infrequently interacted in person and usually worked together via email.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it drawing to a close soon? I'm kind of over this whole expensive drama.

I only started following once the coverage really entered the mainstream and in all sincerity, I feel actual distress at the casual, internalized misogyny and wholesale irrationality by Depp defenders, and their massive deployment to counter actual, factual, sworn testimony in this case. It’s one of the most bizarre things I’ve ever seen.

+1. I can’t speak to the specifics of the trial as I only have some general information but the way people are so gleefully looking to destroy her is twisted. The “funny” tiktocs where people are making fun of her rape testimony?! Even if it is not true it is gross to make jokes about abuse or rape and I can’t help but feel like people watching this are getting the impression that reporting abuse and rape will result in public ridicule and humiliation. I think there is a way to say you believe she is lying without joking about very serious allegations.

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Anonymous wrote:How about Amber’s ex-assistant saying she stole her rape story. What’s that all about??

C minus attempt at getting this to pull focus here. Do better.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know what the truth is between these two people, but I am so troubled by the tenor of the comments about Amber Heard. I can't remember the last time there has been such online viciousness all against a single celebrity in a he said/she said situation. The misogyny here makes me seriously worried for my daughter. If Amber Heard is lying and has had a multi-year plan to increase her profile, that is a bummer. But the thousands of people coming after her online, trying to end her career (the petition to have her removed from Aquaman) and publicly shamed - what in the world is happening? That guy from Empire (Smolett?) faked his assault for publicity and was convicted and didn't go through 10% of this hatred.

Hard agree. This has been freaking me out also. Thanks for saying this!

Absolutely agree. And so many fronting like Johnny’s avenging angels wtf? It’s clear he was/is an alcoholic and an addict who was prone to violent rages and who behaved beyond unprofessionally on set until Disney couldn’t take it anymore. I personally think the truth lies somewhere in the middle of these two unlikable people, and cannot believe so many believe Johnny is some kind of an angelic victim. It’s sick.

I also agree! People are saying how likable he is and how horrible she is. The guy sent texts talking about burning and killing her. He's an unstable drug addict who definitely verbally abused her and probably wouldn't even remember if he hit her based on how messed up he was during the recordings. Also, I'm sick of people saying "why did she record their fight?", "She was setting him up!" in domestic abuse if you don't document the incidents, people are not going to believe you. That is the ONLY thing being proven by this case. She's definately messed up too, but he's the one dragging this out and is set on publicly humiliating her.

Don’t forget the text where he said he then wanted to f#ck her corpse to make sure she was really dead.

How can anyone support this guy after seeing his texts? Those are seriously sick. While I think AH also abused him and likely lied or at least exaggerated, there is no way you can convince me he is not a domestic abuser after seeing these. Normal men don’t talk like this. And people don’t apologize for the monster unless they really had something to apologize for. I predict he loses this case and hope he never works again. I am truly sickened that there are so many people who support a man who talked about burning and drowning his wife then f-ing her corpse. Sick!

You’re not wrong about saying he likely abused her…but to comment on how he writes in his texts as a basis to not support someone. She tells her husband to suck her dick. That’s pretty nasty stuff. “Normal women don’t talk like this.” Neither deserves support.

Telling a man to suck a di** vs texting about your dead wife’s body in a trunk and punching her in the face …. Yeah, totally the same thing.

Neither are okay. Your standards are very low.

One is the commonly used equivalent of telling someone to go eff themselves, which is hardly becoming, but has nothing in common with telling someone you want to rape and kill them.

DP. Except Amber actually cut off Johnny's finger.

You are a liar. Shame on you.

Hurling the word "liar" around is like using the word "racist" nowadays. Anytime someone sees something different than you do, they're "A LIAR"!! It was alleged during the trial that AH through a phone at JD, which resulted in the end of his finger being cut off. How does repeating this (whether you believe the testimony or not) make PP a LIAR?

You are a liar because the post indicates that its something like verifiable truth that Heard cut off his finger. That is utterly false. The sworn testimony from his doctor is that Depp told him he did it. The rest of your illiterate invective is beneath me in terms of a response.

Actually... there's an audio tape where Heard admits to causing the finger to be severed. She's crying and admits she did it. I guess it can't be admitted in court because there are other people on the tape besides the two of them.

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Anonymous wrote:So I have read in multiple places now that Heard’s counsel has as of today proven a financial link between Depp and bot farms attacking her. Do you asshole women defending him - if you are indeed women - not feel a little forking stupid right now?

You’re too old, too unpretty and too unspecial for him. But at least you all have each other!

welcome to dcum, EB!

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know what the truth is between these two people, but I am so troubled by the tenor of the comments about Amber Heard. I can't remember the last time there has been such online viciousness all against a single celebrity in a he said/she said situation. The misogyny here makes me seriously worried for my daughter. If Amber Heard is lying and has had a multi-year plan to increase her profile, that is a bummer. But the thousands of people coming after her online, trying to end her career (the petition to have her removed from Aquaman) and publicly shamed - what in the world is happening? That guy from Empire (Smolett?) faked his assault for publicity and was convicted and didn't go through 10% of this hatred.

Hard agree. This has been freaking me out also. Thanks for saying this!

Absolutely agree. And so many fronting like Johnny’s avenging angels wtf? It’s clear he was/is an alcoholic and an addict who was prone to violent rages and who behaved beyond unprofessionally on set until Disney couldn’t take it anymore. I personally think the truth lies somewhere in the middle of these two unlikable people, and cannot believe so many believe Johnny is some kind of an angelic victim. It’s sick.

I also agree! People are saying how likable he is and how horrible she is. The guy sent texts talking about burning and killing her. He's an unstable drug addict who definitely verbally abused her and probably wouldn't even remember if he hit her based on how messed up he was during the recordings. Also, I'm sick of people saying "why did she record their fight?", "She was setting him up!" in domestic abuse if you don't document the incidents, people are not going to believe you. That is the ONLY thing being proven by this case. She's definately messed up too, but he's the one dragging this out and is set on publicly humiliating her.

Don’t forget the text where he said he then wanted to f#ck her corpse to make sure she was really dead.

How can anyone support this guy after seeing his texts? Those are seriously sick. While I think AH also abused him and likely lied or at least exaggerated, there is no way you can convince me he is not a domestic abuser after seeing these. Normal men don’t talk like this. And people don’t apologize for the monster unless they really had something to apologize for. I predict he loses this case and hope he never works again. I am truly sickened that there are so many people who support a man who talked about burning and drowning his wife then f-ing her corpse. Sick!

You’re not wrong about saying he likely abused her…but to comment on how he writes in his texts as a basis to not support someone. She tells her husband to suck her dick. That’s pretty nasty stuff. “Normal women don’t talk like this.” Neither deserves support.

Telling a man to suck a di** vs texting about your dead wife’s body in a trunk and punching her in the face …. Yeah, totally the same thing.

Neither are okay. Your standards are very low.

One is the commonly used equivalent of telling someone to go eff themselves, which is hardly becoming, but has nothing in common with telling someone you want to rape and kill them.

DP. Except Amber actually cut off Johnny's finger.

You are a liar. Shame on you.

Yes this has been debunked. As has the edited audio people are so fond of pointing at. And no, she didn't poop in the bed. Again the UK judge clearly went over all of this. It's not hard to find.

I didn't pay much attention before this trial so I just assumed they were both terrible. But now I realize that it was because of a massive PR campaign by Depp. He's disgusting.

He is, but I am more stunned and appalled by the women taking up for him.

I'm appalled as well at seeing/learning about this toxic relationship and standing by him.

I would never stand by any man that calls a female derogatory names....

But it's okay for AH to call him these names, right? She can mock his age, weight, career status, fatherhood, alcohol abuse, drug addiction...tell him to suck her d###.....these should all be okay because he's a male, right?

This is what I don't get. I'm supposed to be on AH's team because I, too, possess a uterus? I've followed the trial, I've listened to the testimony, and I actually went into this with an open mind. I've never watched JD movies, and haven't ever been into him or followed his career. He sounds like a drunk and a drug addict. But this trial isn't about how sweet he is or isn't. The evidence as presented has shown that SHE was abusive and while he likely was too, much of what I've heard from his team is that he spent a good deal of time hiding in bathrooms and trying to get away from her, while she's sitting there alleging all kinds of DV with no real evidence of injury. NO medical reports, police reports, even photos of swollen noses? She could take all those photos of him passed out, photos of broken things, stuff scribbled on mirrors, etc. But she never took a clear photo of her swollen nose and the subsequent black eyes from it? Makeup artists are putting makeup on her the next morning and saying they saw NOTHING on her face? She's just not believable, simply because she claims she is. There must be some burden of proof, even with DV. Often times, the burden of proof reveals itself during the police response or medical report. Or the actual broken nose in the morning. In this case, there are none.

So, yeah, I'm not on JD's team necessarily, because I think they're both nuts. I'm just not on her side and question why I should be expected to be just because she's claiming DV -- with no real proof. I'm so over this whole MeToo movement notion that as long as a woman claims harassment or DV, she is to be believed. Careers, reputations, etc can and should be ruined because the woman is to be believed at all costs. This trial isn't about personalities, or even drug and alcohol abuse. It's about whether or not her allegation of being a DV survivor are true in light of the impact those allegations have made to his career.

Exactly. Well said. But to answer your question, yes people on these threads think that as long as you have a pu$$y you should be believed in all claims of DV.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know what the truth is between these two people, but I am so troubled by the tenor of the comments about Amber Heard. I can't remember the last time there has been such online viciousness all against a single celebrity in a he said/she said situation. The misogyny here makes me seriously worried for my daughter. If Amber Heard is lying and has had a multi-year plan to increase her profile, that is a bummer. But the thousands of people coming after her online, trying to end her career (the petition to have her removed from Aquaman) and publicly shamed - what in the world is happening? That guy from Empire (Smolett?) faked his assault for publicity and was convicted and didn't go through 10% of this hatred.

Hard agree. This has been freaking me out also. Thanks for saying this!

Absolutely agree. And so many fronting like Johnny’s avenging angels wtf? It’s clear he was/is an alcoholic and an addict who was prone to violent rages and who behaved beyond unprofessionally on set until Disney couldn’t take it anymore. I personally think the truth lies somewhere in the middle of these two unlikable people, and cannot believe so many believe Johnny is some kind of an angelic victim. It’s sick.

I also agree! People are saying how likable he is and how horrible she is. The guy sent texts talking about burning and killing her. He's an unstable drug addict who definitely verbally abused her and probably wouldn't even remember if he hit her based on how messed up he was during the recordings. Also, I'm sick of people saying "why did she record their fight?", "She was setting him up!" in domestic abuse if you don't document the incidents, people are not going to believe you. That is the ONLY thing being proven by this case. She's definately messed up too, but he's the one dragging this out and is set on publicly humiliating her.

Don’t forget the text where he said he then wanted to f#ck her corpse to make sure she was really dead.

How can anyone support this guy after seeing his texts? Those are seriously sick. While I think AH also abused him and likely lied or at least exaggerated, there is no way you can convince me he is not a domestic abuser after seeing these. Normal men don’t talk like this. And people don’t apologize for the monster unless they really had something to apologize for. I predict he loses this case and hope he never works again. I am truly sickened that there are so many people who support a man who talked about burning and drowning his wife then f-ing her corpse. Sick!

You’re not wrong about saying he likely abused her…but to comment on how he writes in his texts as a basis to not support someone. She tells her husband to suck her dick. That’s pretty nasty stuff. “Normal women don’t talk like this.” Neither deserves support.

Telling a man to suck a di** vs texting about your dead wife’s body in a trunk and punching her in the face …. Yeah, totally the same thing.

Neither are okay. Your standards are very low.

One is the commonly used equivalent of telling someone to go eff themselves, which is hardly becoming, but has nothing in common with telling someone you want to rape and kill them.

DP. Except Amber actually cut off Johnny's finger.

You are a liar. Shame on you.

Hurling the word "liar" around is like using the word "racist" nowadays. Anytime someone sees something different than you do, they're "A LIAR"!! It was alleged during the trial that AH through a phone at JD, which resulted in the end of his finger being cut off. How does repeating this (whether you believe the testimony or not) make PP a LIAR?

You are a liar because the post indicates that its something like verifiable truth that Heard cut off his finger. That is utterly false. The sworn testimony from his doctor is that Depp told him he did it. The rest of your illiterate invective is beneath me in terms of a response.

Actually... there's an audio tape where Heard admits to causing the finger to be severed. She's crying and admits she did it. I guess it can't be admitted in court because there are other people on the tape besides the two of them.

Again a mischaracterization. This is her reacting an apologizing to be blamed for it, but can also be understood through the lens of "look what you made me do". She never says she cut it off. Again, "look what you made me do" is a classic abuse tactic.

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Anonymous wrote:So I have read in multiple places now that Heard’s counsel has as of today proven a financial link between Depp and bot farms attacking her. Do you asshole women defending him - if you are indeed women - not feel a little forking stupid right now?

You’re too old, too unpretty and too unspecial for him. But at least you all have each other!

welcome to dcum, EB!

Ooh, a cool insider joke for you and the rest of the lunatic brigade! Depp will surely come a-courtin’ to thank you properly.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know what the truth is between these two people, but I am so troubled by the tenor of the comments about Amber Heard. I can't remember the last time there has been such online viciousness all against a single celebrity in a he said/she said situation. The misogyny here makes me seriously worried for my daughter. If Amber Heard is lying and has had a multi-year plan to increase her profile, that is a bummer. But the thousands of people coming after her online, trying to end her career (the petition to have her removed from Aquaman) and publicly shamed - what in the world is happening? That guy from Empire (Smolett?) faked his assault for publicity and was convicted and didn't go through 10% of this hatred.

Hard agree. This has been freaking me out also. Thanks for saying this!

Absolutely agree. And so many fronting like Johnny’s avenging angels wtf? It’s clear he was/is an alcoholic and an addict who was prone to violent rages and who behaved beyond unprofessionally on set until Disney couldn’t take it anymore. I personally think the truth lies somewhere in the middle of these two unlikable people, and cannot believe so many believe Johnny is some kind of an angelic victim. It’s sick.

I also agree! People are saying how likable he is and how horrible she is. The guy sent texts talking about burning and killing her. He's an unstable drug addict who definitely verbally abused her and probably wouldn't even remember if he hit her based on how messed up he was during the recordings. Also, I'm sick of people saying "why did she record their fight?", "She was setting him up!" in domestic abuse if you don't document the incidents, people are not going to believe you. That is the ONLY thing being proven by this case. She's definately messed up too, but he's the one dragging this out and is set on publicly humiliating her.

Don’t forget the text where he said he then wanted to f#ck her corpse to make sure she was really dead.

How can anyone support this guy after seeing his texts? Those are seriously sick. While I think AH also abused him and likely lied or at least exaggerated, there is no way you can convince me he is not a domestic abuser after seeing these. Normal men don’t talk like this. And people don’t apologize for the monster unless they really had something to apologize for. I predict he loses this case and hope he never works again. I am truly sickened that there are so many people who support a man who talked about burning and drowning his wife then f-ing her corpse. Sick!

You’re not wrong about saying he likely abused her…but to comment on how he writes in his texts as a basis to not support someone. She tells her husband to suck her dick. That’s pretty nasty stuff. “Normal women don’t talk like this.” Neither deserves support.

Telling a man to suck a di** vs texting about your dead wife’s body in a trunk and punching her in the face …. Yeah, totally the same thing.

Neither are okay. Your standards are very low.

One is the commonly used equivalent of telling someone to go eff themselves, which is hardly becoming, but has nothing in common with telling someone you want to rape and kill them.

DP. Except Amber actually cut off Johnny's finger.

You are a liar. Shame on you.

Yes this has been debunked. As has the edited audio people are so fond of pointing at. And no, she didn't poop in the bed. Again the UK judge clearly went over all of this. It's not hard to find.

I didn't pay much attention before this trial so I just assumed they were both terrible. But now I realize that it was because of a massive PR campaign by Depp. He's disgusting.

He is, but I am more stunned and appalled by the women taking up for him.

I'm appalled as well at seeing/learning about this toxic relationship and standing by him.

I would never stand by any man that calls a female derogatory names....

But it's okay for AH to call him these names, right? She can mock his age, weight, career status, fatherhood, alcohol abuse, drug addiction...tell him to suck her d###.....these should all be okay because he's a male, right?

This is what I don't get. I'm supposed to be on AH's team because I, too, possess a uterus? I've followed the trial, I've listened to the testimony, and I actually went into this with an open mind. I've never watched JD movies, and haven't ever been into him or followed his career. He sounds like a drunk and a drug addict. But this trial isn't about how sweet he is or isn't. The evidence as presented has shown that SHE was abusive and while he likely was too, much of what I've heard from his team is that he spent a good deal of time hiding in bathrooms and trying to get away from her, while she's sitting there alleging all kinds of DV with no real evidence of injury. NO medical reports, police reports, even photos of swollen noses? She could take all those photos of him passed out, photos of broken things, stuff scribbled on mirrors, etc. But she never took a clear photo of her swollen nose and the subsequent black eyes from it? Makeup artists are putting makeup on her the next morning and saying they saw NOTHING on her face? She's just not believable, simply because she claims she is. There must be some burden of proof, even with DV. Often times, the burden of proof reveals itself during the police response or medical report. Or the actual broken nose in the morning. In this case, there are none.

So, yeah, I'm not on JD's team necessarily, because I think they're both nuts. I'm just not on her side and question why I should be expected to be just because she's claiming DV -- with no real proof. I'm so over this whole MeToo movement notion that as long as a woman claims harassment or DV, she is to be believed. Careers, reputations, etc can and should be ruined because the woman is to be believed at all costs. This trial isn't about personalities, or even drug and alcohol abuse. It's about whether or not her allegation of being a DV survivor are true in light of the impact those allegations have made to his career.

Exactly. Well said. But to answer your question, yes people on these threads think that as long as you have a pu$$y you should be believed in all claims of DV.

I'm sorry, again, he said he wanted to kill her and r*pe her corpse. This is not in question, this is documented. There is a video of him breaking crap and telling her to shut up and that she's a f*t a**. Their marriage counselor has testified that they were both abusive. She has witnesses confirming her injuries.

There are plenty of women who are garbage to other women. You're not special, but it is just a little more benedict arnold-y than the men.