DA vs ECNL vs everything else

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:You're most def not my huckleberry but I would say that there is no doubt at the younger ages that ecnl teams will have a tougher time drawing players for this fall. The draw of GDA this year is undeniable despite USSF efforts to shoot themselves in the foot.


All local elite level teams will be diluted however. As a generalization I expect local ECNL teams to be about as competitive in their respective leagues as local GDA teams. I don't expect any local elite team in the 04-06 group to dominate. 



Disagree. Arlington 04 has a good chance to win DA.





Top 10 teams in Region I:

1 FC STARS ECNL (MA) [11] 35.41
2 SDFC 09 YELLOW (NJ) [38] 34.53
3 ARLINGTON SA RED (VA) [39] 34.52
4 SOUTH SHORE SELECT AP (MA) [48] 34.30
5 PENN FUSION SA (PAE) [53] 34.26
6 CONNECTICUT FC ECNL (CT) [60] 34.17
7 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC PRE ECNL (NJ) [61] 34.15
8 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY (NJ) [62] 34.13
9 EAST MEADOW SC ECNL BARCA (NYE) [66] 34.08
10 SKY BLUE PDA (NJ) [68] 34.07

Assuming Arlington Red remains largely intact, my prediction of them having a good chance winning their division in DA is supported in fact.


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Anonymous
Does anyone know FC Bordeaux? The team has a strong u19 team but weaker u13 and u15 teams. We play them in a tournament but are not familiar with team
Ca
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

Top 10 teams in Region I:

1 FC STARS ECNL (MA) [11] 35.41
2 SDFC 09 YELLOW (NJ) [38] 34.53
3 ARLINGTON SA RED (VA) [39] 34.52
4 SOUTH SHORE SELECT AP (MA) [48] 34.30
5 PENN FUSION SA (PAE) [53] 34.26
6 CONNECTICUT FC ECNL (CT) [60] 34.17
7 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC PRE ECNL (NJ) [61] 34.15
8 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY (NJ) [62] 34.13
9 EAST MEADOW SC ECNL BARCA (NYE) [66] 34.08
10 SKY BLUE PDA (NJ) [68] 34.07

Assuming Arlington Red remains largely intact, my prediction of them having a good chance winning their division in DA is supported in fact.


You had more credibility before you included your youth soccer rankings.
Anonymous
I appreciate the focus on ECNL/DA but I would like to hear about the "everything else." We are not doing ECNL/DA because of logistics and are exploring other options of which there are many. Have seen a few ERL and State Cup games and ECNl games and believe that the non-ECNL teams are stronger, especially at younger ages. The reality is that ECNL is just based on the club. Teams don't earn ECNL status. They are grandfathered in. DA is still growing and I doubt you will see an establushed DA in the next five years. I am not knocking either league but I just don't buy the arguments. There are teams out there without ECNL or DA that are strong and beat ECNL teams at Showcase events.
Anonymous
The DCUM SP is back under new new bipolar personality and get ready for it, 3 . . .2 . . . 1 . . . there is no nothing else, there is only Spirit DA!

Anyway, search Pipeline and you will find old posts debating the everything else question you raise.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I appreciate the focus on ECNL/DA but I would like to hear about the "everything else." We are not doing ECNL/DA because of logistics and are exploring other options of which there are many. Have seen a few ERL and State Cup games and ECNl games and believe that the non-ECNL teams are stronger, especially at younger ages. The reality is that ECNL is just based on the club. Teams don't earn ECNL status. They are grandfathered in. DA is still growing and I doubt you will see an establushed DA in the next five years. I am not knocking either league but I just don't buy the arguments. There are teams out there without ECNL or DA that are strong and beat ECNL teams at Showcase events.


Sounds like you are researching a winning stock or horse to bet on for yourself instead of the best environment for your child to learn and love the game. The league doesn’t matter from one year to the next, the coaching diversity and options for teams and leagues connected to the club are a better long term bet. These days the ECNL and DA clubs are the ones with the most options and attract more experienced coaches on average. But if you find a great coach at another club and your child wishes there were more practices they could go to, pick that.
Anonymous
For the Boys ECNL fans:

Boys ECNL Announces New Mountain Conference for 2018-2019 Season

RICHMOND, VA (April 10, 2018) – The Boys Elite Clubs National League (Boys ECNL) is excited to announce the creation of the Mountain Conference for the 2018-2019 season. With the addition of the Mountain Conference, and the previously announced new Mid-Atlantic Conference, the Boys ECNL will consist of seven conferences spanning the country next season. The Mountain Conference will include 6 founding clubs:

Arsenal Colorado
Colorado Storm*
New Mexico Rush
Pride SC
Real Colorado*
Rio Rapids SC

With the addition of these clubs, the Boys ECNL will reach 2 new geographic markets in Colorado, and provide new competitive and development opportunities for the best players in New Mexico. While Real Colorado and Colorado Storm are already members of the Boys ECNL this season, the Mountain Conference will include 4 new clubs.

(more is on the boys' ECNL website)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I appreciate the focus on ECNL/DA but I would like to hear about the "everything else." We are not doing ECNL/DA because of logistics and are exploring other options of which there are many. Have seen a few ERL and State Cup games and ECNl games and believe that the non-ECNL teams are stronger, especially at younger ages. The reality is that ECNL is just based on the club. Teams don't earn ECNL status. They are grandfathered in. DA is still growing and I doubt you will see an establushed DA in the next five years. I am not knocking either league but I just don't buy the arguments. There are teams out there without ECNL or DA that are strong and beat ECNL teams at Showcase events.


how young is “younger ages” pre u13? like u8-u12?

those ecnl teams try to take the best of what shows up at their doorstop. usually the resources and environment of ecnl was the draw and differentiator.

If no one new and shinier shows up, then you are right; however my experience withe ecnl has shown that new shinier players will show.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I appreciate the focus on ECNL/DA but I would like to hear about the "everything else." We are not doing ECNL/DA because of logistics and are exploring other options of which there are many. Have seen a few ERL and State Cup games and ECNl games and believe that the non-ECNL teams are stronger, especially at younger ages. The reality is that ECNL is just based on the club. Teams don't earn ECNL status. They are grandfathered in. DA is still growing and I doubt you will see an establushed DA in the next five years. I am not knocking either league but I just don't buy the arguments. There are teams out there without ECNL or DA that are strong and beat ECNL teams at Showcase events.


how young is “younger ages” pre u13? like u8-u12?

those ecnl teams try to take the best of what shows up at their doorstop. usually the resources and environment of ecnl was the draw and differentiator.

If no one new and shinier shows up, then you are right; however my experience withe ecnl has shown that new shinier players will show.


I was comparing u-13 to u-15 non-ECNL with ECNL of the same age group. From what I have seen, they typically are not the top teams in the state but I do agree that as the teams age, they pick up more talent. I am just interested in hearing about more non-ECNL and non-DA teams.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:

Top 10 teams in Region I:

1 FC STARS ECNL (MA) [11] 35.41
2 SDFC 09 YELLOW (NJ) [38] 34.53
3 ARLINGTON SA RED (VA) [39] 34.52
4 SOUTH SHORE SELECT AP (MA) [48] 34.30
5 PENN FUSION SA (PAE) [53] 34.26
6 CONNECTICUT FC ECNL (CT) [60] 34.17
7 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC PRE ECNL (NJ) [61] 34.15
8 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY (NJ) [62] 34.13
9 EAST MEADOW SC ECNL BARCA (NYE) [66] 34.08
10 SKY BLUE PDA (NJ) [68] 34.07

Assuming Arlington Red remains largely intact, my prediction of them having a good chance winning their division in DA is supported in fact.


You had more credibility before you included your youth soccer rankings.


Youthsoccerrankings.us is the best system we have for making the sorts of predictions made on this board about team performance next year. What is better, word of mouth? You watching a game here or there and spewing unsupportable opinion? If Arlington stays largely intact moving to DA they will be duking it out with Penn Fusion for top of the Atlantic table in GDA 04. Fact not opinion and definitely not propaganda. DD plays for Spirit.
Anonymous
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Youthsoccerrankings.us is the best system we have for making the sorts of predictions made on this board about team performance next year. What is better, word of mouth? You watching a game here or there and spewing unsupportable opinion? If Arlington stays largely intact moving to DA they will be duking it out with Penn Fusion for top of the Atlantic table in GDA 04. Fact not opinion and definitely not propaganda. DD plays for Spirit.


Youth Soccer Rankings is pretty good. If we are going to compare youth soccer teams (and we have and will) it is a way better approach than the ridiculous Got Soccer tournament based points system.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know FC Bordeaux? The team has a strong u19 team but weaker u13 and u15 teams. We play them in a tournament but are not familiar with team
Ca


FC Bordeaux is a new club with teams splintered away from OBGC. Seems to be some partnership with OGBC remaining. Last year their U15 team was called OBGC 03/04. They played in EDP Prmier South and did well. This year in EDP Div 2 South and losing more than winning. The U19 team did extremely placing many girls in college and finishing 3rd in ERL. According to their website, 11 were placed but the NCAA tracker only has 4.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Youthsoccerrankings.us is the best system we have for making the sorts of predictions made on this board about team performance next year. What is better, word of mouth? You watching a game here or there and spewing unsupportable opinion? If Arlington stays largely intact moving to DA they will be duking it out with Penn Fusion for top of the Atlantic table in GDA 04. Fact not opinion and definitely not propaganda. DD plays for Spirit.


Youth Soccer Rankings is pretty good. If we are going to compare youth soccer teams (and we have and will) it is a way better approach than the ridiculous Got Soccer tournament based points system.


Just for starters, Arlington 04 DA would lose to FCV 3-0
Then they would face Cedar Stars and lose 3-0.
Then they would face Penn Fusion and lose 3-0.

Maybe you can fight it out with Spirit for 4th and 5th.

It's going to be eye opening for Arlington parents coming in with that type of attitude. Especially when they are used to playing the type of teams that are listed on their Gotsoccer page.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Youthsoccerrankings.us is the best system we have for making the sorts of predictions made on this board about team performance next year. What is better, word of mouth? You watching a game here or there and spewing unsupportable opinion? If Arlington stays largely intact moving to DA they will be duking it out with Penn Fusion for top of the Atlantic table in GDA 04. Fact not opinion and definitely not propaganda. DD plays for Spirit.


Youth Soccer Rankings is pretty good. If we are going to compare youth soccer teams (and we have and will) it is a way better approach than the ridiculous Got Soccer tournament based points system.


Agreed, but even the youth soccer standings site can only use the games the teams actually play to determine tankings. Has Arlington 04 played games or scrimmages against any ECNL or DA teams? I would think those results could be more informative.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Youthsoccerrankings.us is the best system we have for making the sorts of predictions made on this board about team performance next year. What is better, word of mouth? You watching a game here or there and spewing unsupportable opinion? If Arlington stays largely intact moving to DA they will be duking it out with Penn Fusion for top of the Atlantic table in GDA 04. Fact not opinion and definitely not propaganda. DD plays for Spirit.


Youth Soccer Rankings is pretty good. If we are going to compare youth soccer teams (and we have and will) it is a way better approach than the ridiculous Got Soccer tournament based points system.


Agreed, but even the youth soccer standings site can only use the games the teams actually play to determine tankings. Has Arlington 04 played games or scrimmages against any ECNL or DA teams? I would think those results could be more informative.


Arlington 04 will be on par with VDA 04. Barring any stud pickups, they can expect to find the same level of success. Give or take. That is a more fair assessment
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