Biden's VP?

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Anonymous wrote:I really hope Tammy Duckworth is getting lots of looks. She plays well with lots of demographic buckets in the electorate.

The left is voting for whomever the Dems run. Trump is that bad. I personally do not believe Biden needs to pick a hardcore progressive. The left flank is sewn up because it’s so anti-Trump. The crazy left will accuse anyone who is a Democrat of being “corporate,” so it’s pointless to appease them.

Keeping the swing states in mind, I think Tammy D is the safest pick. Even though I’d prefer Warren or Bass for experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Keisha Bottoms out of the running? I see her name when VP lists are compiled but no specific mentions of her lately.

I think the second burning of Atlanta may have eliminated her chances.

I think she has the same issue as Mayor Pete, inexperience. Biden floated her because she's a loyalist and a very good speaker, but she doesn't pass the readiness sniff test. Remember Joe himself is the one who repeatedly stressed readiness.

Because he understands how hard and complex the job is. Not for rookies.

Is this the same Biden who has vp was the butt of jokes due to his lack of mental bandwidth and whose deals Harry Reid would throw in the fireplace?

Vp is not a hard and complex job. There are harder jobs in government by far

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Anonymous wrote:I really hope Tammy Duckworth is getting lots of looks. She plays well with lots of demographic buckets in the electorate.

The left is voting for whomever the Dems run. Trump is that bad. I personally do not believe Biden needs to pick a hardcore progressive. The left flank is sewn up because it’s so anti-Trump. The crazy left will accuse anyone who is a Democrat of being “corporate,” so it’s pointless to appease them.

Keeping the swing states in mind, I think Tammy D is the safest pick. Even though I’d prefer Warren or Bass for experience.

New Nytimes article about her. She’s impressive.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/06/25/us/politics/tammy-duckworth-vice-president-joe-biden.amp.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really hope Tammy Duckworth is getting lots of looks. She plays well with lots of demographic buckets in the electorate.

The left is voting for whomever the Dems run. Trump is that bad. I personally do not believe Biden needs to pick a hardcore progressive. The left flank is sewn up because it’s so anti-Trump. The crazy left will accuse anyone who is a Democrat of being “corporate,” so it’s pointless to appease them.

The Argument podcast this week is about who'd make a good VP pick. Frank Bruni was arguing for Duckworth. Michelle Goldberg was arguing for Warren - I continue to think she'd make the best president, and a terrible candidate. Not that anyone cares what I think about this!

They all agreed it was likely to be Harris.

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Andrew Yang. Center left. Can really help guide us out if the sh$t mess we are in.

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Anonymous wrote:Andrew Yang. Center left. Can really help guide us out if the sh$t mess we are in.

No.

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One recent article said Joe was concerned about picking someone who'd immediately be gunning for the presidency, concerns I'm sure he has about Harris and Warren. He needs a partner he can trust, and one who can satisfy the readiness question. This is why I think it could end up being Duckworth or Bass.

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Anonymous wrote:One recent article said Joe was concerned about picking someone who'd immediately be gunning for the presidency, concerns I'm sure he has about Harris and Warren. He needs a partner he can trust, and one who can satisfy the readiness question. This is why I think it could end up being Duckworth or Bass.

More likely Whitmer.

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Anonymous wrote:One recent article said Joe was concerned about picking someone who'd immediately be gunning for the presidency, concerns I'm sure he has about Harris and Warren. He needs a partner he can trust, and one who can satisfy the readiness question. This is why I think it could end up being Duckworth or Bass.

You're going to need to provide a link to a credible source on such a statement.

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Anonymous wrote:One recent article said Joe was concerned about picking someone who'd immediately be gunning for the presidency, concerns I'm sure he has about Harris and Warren. He needs a partner he can trust, and one who can satisfy the readiness question. This is why I think it could end up being Duckworth or Bass.

You're going to need to provide a link to a credible source on such a statement.

House of cards.

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Anonymous wrote:One recent article said Joe was concerned about picking someone who'd immediately be gunning for the presidency, concerns I'm sure he has about Harris and Warren. He needs a partner he can trust, and one who can satisfy the readiness question. This is why I think it could end up being Duckworth or Bass.

More likely Whitmer.

A month or two ago, I would have agreed but I think there's too much pressure on him to pick a WOC. I also think it's the right thing to do. And though I think Whitmer is a rising star, she has not foreign policy experience at present.

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Anonymous wrote:The job is indeed hard and complex. I wish we lived in a world where competence was rewarded. I also wish we lived in a world where this election wasn't so vitally important. Tim Kaine is a competent Senator. Hillary Clinton was a competent Senator and SecState. John Kerry was a competent Senator. The American electorate does not place as much value in competence (or foreign policy) as we would like. Biden already provides a sharp contrast with Trump on competence on those two issues. Doubling down on competence if it doesn't add anything else isn't beneficial. Because Trump is also old and says stupid old man things they cancel each other out on the issue. Age isn't the issue they need to worry about.

This pick is hard. The VP needs to resonate in some way with the swing voters in Wisconsin, Arizona, or North Carolina. Florida is just too weird. In Wisconsin that swing vote is Gen X/Millennial cusp white males that want an outsider. In Arizona it's Gen X white suburban females that need to not be turned off. In North Carolina it's Gen X/Millennial cusp black males plus Gen X black suburban females that want an outsider and need not be turned off respectively.

Karen Bass seems like a great Representative. But she's from LA and a member of Congress. I don't see what she adds to the ticket but maybe I'm missing something. I worry about adding a Congessmember to the ticket and how that makes the ticket open to anti-congress and anti- coastal urban elite attacks. The type of attacks that unfortunately resonate with key voting blocs. But that's

What's the angle of attack?

We know Trump's strategy because it's a rerun: depress gen x/millennial cusp black males, hype up gen x/millennial cusp white males, and scare suburban females.

I think that Michelle Lujan Grisham provides the executive and legislative experience plus ticks off a lot of boxes and can appeal to a lot of the swing states. She's shown that she has governed New Mexico well, she spent three terms in Congress including a leadership role. She served as the NM state secretary of health for a while. In the current pandemic situation, that would be a plus. She can't do a worse job than Pence has on the national response.

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Anonymous wrote:The job is indeed hard and complex. I wish we lived in a world where competence was rewarded. I also wish we lived in a world where this election wasn't so vitally important. Tim Kaine is a competent Senator. Hillary Clinton was a competent Senator and SecState. John Kerry was a competent Senator. The American electorate does not place as much value in competence (or foreign policy) as we would like. Biden already provides a sharp contrast with Trump on competence on those two issues. Doubling down on competence if it doesn't add anything else isn't beneficial. Because Trump is also old and says stupid old man things they cancel each other out on the issue. Age isn't the issue they need to worry about.

This pick is hard. The VP needs to resonate in some way with the swing voters in Wisconsin, Arizona, or North Carolina. Florida is just too weird. In Wisconsin that swing vote is Gen X/Millennial cusp white males that want an outsider. In Arizona it's Gen X white suburban females that need to not be turned off. In North Carolina it's Gen X/Millennial cusp black males plus Gen X black suburban females that want an outsider and need not be turned off respectively.

Karen Bass seems like a great Representative. But she's from LA and a member of Congress. I don't see what she adds to the ticket but maybe I'm missing something. I worry about adding a Congessmember to the ticket and how that makes the ticket open to anti-congress and anti- coastal urban elite attacks. The type of attacks that unfortunately resonate with key voting blocs. But that's

What's the angle of attack?

We know Trump's strategy because it's a rerun: depress gen x/millennial cusp black males, hype up gen x/millennial cusp white males, and scare suburban females.

I think that Michelle Lujan Grisham provides the executive and legislative experience plus ticks off a lot of boxes and can appeal to a lot of the swing states. She's shown that she has governed New Mexico well, she spent three terms in Congress including a leadership role. She served as the NM state secretary of health for a while. In the current pandemic situation, that would be a plus. She can't do a worse job than Pence has on the national response.

Blond, green-eyed Basque descendant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The job is indeed hard and complex. I wish we lived in a world where competence was rewarded. I also wish we lived in a world where this election wasn't so vitally important. Tim Kaine is a competent Senator. Hillary Clinton was a competent Senator and SecState. John Kerry was a competent Senator. The American electorate does not place as much value in competence (or foreign policy) as we would like. Biden already provides a sharp contrast with Trump on competence on those two issues. Doubling down on competence if it doesn't add anything else isn't beneficial. Because Trump is also old and says stupid old man things they cancel each other out on the issue. Age isn't the issue they need to worry about.

This pick is hard. The VP needs to resonate in some way with the swing voters in Wisconsin, Arizona, or North Carolina. Florida is just too weird. In Wisconsin that swing vote is Gen X/Millennial cusp white males that want an outsider. In Arizona it's Gen X white suburban females that need to not be turned off. In North Carolina it's Gen X/Millennial cusp black males plus Gen X black suburban females that want an outsider and need not be turned off respectively.

Karen Bass seems like a great Representative. But she's from LA and a member of Congress. I don't see what she adds to the ticket but maybe I'm missing something. I worry about adding a Congessmember to the ticket and how that makes the ticket open to anti-congress and anti- coastal urban elite attacks. The type of attacks that unfortunately resonate with key voting blocs. But that's

What's the angle of attack?

We know Trump's strategy because it's a rerun: depress gen x/millennial cusp black males, hype up gen x/millennial cusp white males, and scare suburban females.

I think that Michelle Lujan Grisham provides the executive and legislative experience plus ticks off a lot of boxes and can appeal to a lot of the swing states. She's shown that she has governed New Mexico well, she spent three terms in Congress including a leadership role. She served as the NM state secretary of health for a while. In the current pandemic situation, that would be a plus. She can't do a worse job than Pence has on the national response.

Blond, green-eyed Basque descendant.

You're not wrong, and this brings up the point that is often brought up re: Latinx voters--they are not a single bloc and are a pretty complex demographic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The job is indeed hard and complex. I wish we lived in a world where competence was rewarded. I also wish we lived in a world where this election wasn't so vitally important. Tim Kaine is a competent Senator. Hillary Clinton was a competent Senator and SecState. John Kerry was a competent Senator. The American electorate does not place as much value in competence (or foreign policy) as we would like. Biden already provides a sharp contrast with Trump on competence on those two issues. Doubling down on competence if it doesn't add anything else isn't beneficial. Because Trump is also old and says stupid old man things they cancel each other out on the issue. Age isn't the issue they need to worry about.

This pick is hard. The VP needs to resonate in some way with the swing voters in Wisconsin, Arizona, or North Carolina. Florida is just too weird. In Wisconsin that swing vote is Gen X/Millennial cusp white males that want an outsider. In Arizona it's Gen X white suburban females that need to not be turned off. In North Carolina it's Gen X/Millennial cusp black males plus Gen X black suburban females that want an outsider and need not be turned off respectively.

Karen Bass seems like a great Representative. But she's from LA and a member of Congress. I don't see what she adds to the ticket but maybe I'm missing something. I worry about adding a Congessmember to the ticket and how that makes the ticket open to anti-congress and anti- coastal urban elite attacks. The type of attacks that unfortunately resonate with key voting blocs. But that's

What's the angle of attack?

We know Trump's strategy because it's a rerun: depress gen x/millennial cusp black males, hype up gen x/millennial cusp white males, and scare suburban females.

I think that Michelle Lujan Grisham provides the executive and legislative experience plus ticks off a lot of boxes and can appeal to a lot of the swing states. She's shown that she has governed New Mexico well, she spent three terms in Congress including a leadership role. She served as the NM state secretary of health for a while. In the current pandemic situation, that would be a plus. She can't do a worse job than Pence has on the national response.

Blond, green-eyed Basque descendant.

This is the problem with identity politics. You are putting more emphasis on what they look like than you are on how qualified they are for the job.

The Democrats need to start putting at least some value in qualifications for the job rather than solely on identity politics or they are in for a world of hurt as they watch Trump truly destroy the Republic in a second term.

Biden has already said he will choose a woman. Let that be the standard for identity politics and then start finding the most qualified woman who will be a viable candidate in 4 years to assume the leadership of the Democratic party and lead the party to back-to-back terms of office.