The Five school districts with Title IX violations, how much money do they stand to lose?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone here a lawyer that has an opinion worth hearing? Do these districts stand a chance in court?

Not my area of the law and I haven't been following it super closely, but, yes, I think the districts are on solid ground legally for the time being based on the Grimm precedent. But apparently the issue is coming before the Supreme Court, so that could change with such a conservative Court, so we'll have to see how that part turns out.

I thought the districts' ask to delay enforcement until after the Supreme Court rules was quite reasonable. It's wild how hell bent the Trump Admin is on pulling funding. It all appears highly political and agenda driven. This is not the normal way the federal government operates.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a way we can separate the two issues of locker rooms and restrooms? The locker room issue is much more controversial, sensitive and complex.
But can we agree that trans children and teens using a bathroom stall is a nothingburger???

Most public restrooms (including in many schools I've been in) do not have complete privacy in the bathroom stalls. There is often a huge gap (more than an inch!) between the door and the stall frame. I've accidentally made eye contact with someone in a stall when glancing to determine if someone is in there!
So to me, it is definitely not a "nothingburger."

Ewww. Why are you looking in stalls?

Yeah, I've been using public restrooms all my life and I have never looked inside of a stall through the crack. You bend down and look for legs to see if a stall is occupied. Try this, PP, problem solved.

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt any of the anti trans posters have even been in a high school recently. 90% of kids don’t change where I teach anymore, they just wear comfy clothes to school and throw on sneakers. Locker rooms aren’t a huge deal. Certainly no showers or naked displays.

Bathrooms are behind a stall door so again, not sure what anyone thinks they’ll see.

If you’re truly worried about sex offenders in locker rooms and bathrooms, not trans children, let’s brainstorm ways to stop that.

EXACTLY.

That Arlington predator wasn't allowed in either bathroom.

My two APS teens have never changed in an open locker room, either for gym or varsity sports.

The only naked people I've seen in locker rooms in the last decade are older ladies at the pool who are creepy exhibitionists.

It is interesting how the sexism, misogyny, and ageism of trans activists always seeps out. They can’t keep it in, for whatever reason. It is just a core part of who they are, I guess.

I think this is part of the reason a lot of trans rights issues have become approximately 90/10 issues (including Gen Z).

It’s odd how the schools are taking such an unprincipled and unpopular stance. They could compromise (create a safe third space for trans kids, address sports on a case by case basis, etc) but they are so determined to fight for the rights of misogynists that they can’t back down.

I’m a Millennial who has noted for years (well before the current GOP trans panic) that the only people parading around locker rooms nude are old ladies, and when I say parade, I mean parade. As in, awkward changing my 3 year old in there parade. Blow drying the hair, applying the makeup, reorganizing the gym bag, and shooting the breeze completely nude. From what my husband told me, it’s the same in the men’s room.

If it’s ageist and sexist to speak the truth, I’m guilty as charged. Now put some clothes on, there are kids present.

I hope you don’t have daughters. They deserve better than to be taught by someone who actively despises women as deeply as you do. It’s so sad to watch. I’d suggest therapy, but I think your self-loathing goes too deep for that.

There is nothing misogynistic about not wanting pervy old women strutting around the locker room buck naked because they have some kind of exhibitionism fetish.

Wow. You are profoundly messed up.

I’m not the exhibitionist making everyone else uncomfortable in the locker room with my fetish.

So incredibly messed up. My God.

Yes, no one should be lingering buck naked for long periods of time in the locker room. Their exhibitionism makes everyone uncomfortable. No one should be blogging about naked kids dancing around the locker room either - so creepy.

Honey, a word of advice. Stop digging. You are only sounding weirder and more insane with each post. This is actually exemplary of a serious issue for trans rights: a lot of their loudest activists come across as raging lunatics. I don’t think anyone normal objects to a few private separate bathrooms for trans kids, but you sound so weird and deranged that you make people question everything.

And nobody normal buys your absolutely bizarre fantasies here. You are talking about something that exists solely in your absolutely creepy imagination. Just stop it. You are making things worse for your cause, not better.

Sounds like you haven’t had to deal with our local locker rooms after your kids’ swim lessons. People hanging out buck naked for long periods of time make other people uncomfortable. It is completely unnecessary and comes off as a fetish.

A self-professed TERF has detailed out her own joy hanging out naked in the W-L locker room as well as pleasure she gets watching young girls dance around naked in the locker room.

It’s indisputably creepy.

This is a figment of your turgid imagination and it is extremely weird behavior from you.

It’s real. Google TERF Washington Liberty pool.

I did. I only get news reports about an alleged sex offender allegedly exposing himself. No blogs whatsoever.

Like I said, you are crazy and extremely weird. You need to pipe down because you are hurting your cause. You sound like a lunatic.

The sex offender at W-L should not have been allowed anywhere near a locker room, whether it was the girls locker room or the boys locker room. This isn't a gender/trans issue, it's a sex offender issue. I don't get people trying to make it into a trans issue. Would they be ok with a sex offender in the boys locker room? I would not be ok with that at all. No one should be ok with that. APS changes its policy to screen sex offenders now before letting people into locker rooms, something they should have had all along.

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt any of the anti trans posters have even been in a high school recently. 90% of kids don’t change where I teach anymore, they just wear comfy clothes to school and throw on sneakers. Locker rooms aren’t a huge deal. Certainly no showers or naked displays.

Bathrooms are behind a stall door so again, not sure what anyone thinks they’ll see.

If you’re truly worried about sex offenders in locker rooms and bathrooms, not trans children, let’s brainstorm ways to stop that.

EXACTLY.

That Arlington predator wasn't allowed in either bathroom.

My two APS teens have never changed in an open locker room, either for gym or varsity sports.

The only naked people I've seen in locker rooms in the last decade are older ladies at the pool who are creepy exhibitionists.

It is interesting how the sexism, misogyny, and ageism of trans activists always seeps out. They can’t keep it in, for whatever reason. It is just a core part of who they are, I guess.

I think this is part of the reason a lot of trans rights issues have become approximately 90/10 issues (including Gen Z).

It’s odd how the schools are taking such an unprincipled and unpopular stance. They could compromise (create a safe third space for trans kids, address sports on a case by case basis, etc) but they are so determined to fight for the rights of misogynists that they can’t back down.

I’m a Millennial who has noted for years (well before the current GOP trans panic) that the only people parading around locker rooms nude are old ladies, and when I say parade, I mean parade. As in, awkward changing my 3 year old in there parade. Blow drying the hair, applying the makeup, reorganizing the gym bag, and shooting the breeze completely nude. From what my husband told me, it’s the same in the men’s room.

If it’s ageist and sexist to speak the truth, I’m guilty as charged. Now put some clothes on, there are kids present.

I hope you don’t have daughters. They deserve better than to be taught by someone who actively despises women as deeply as you do. It’s so sad to watch. I’d suggest therapy, but I think your self-loathing goes too deep for that.

There is nothing misogynistic about not wanting pervy old women strutting around the locker room buck naked because they have some kind of exhibitionism fetish.

Wow. You are profoundly messed up.

I’m not the exhibitionist making everyone else uncomfortable in the locker room with my fetish.

So incredibly messed up. My God.

Yes, no one should be lingering buck naked for long periods of time in the locker room. Their exhibitionism makes everyone uncomfortable. No one should be blogging about naked kids dancing around the locker room either - so creepy.

Honey, a word of advice. Stop digging. You are only sounding weirder and more insane with each post. This is actually exemplary of a serious issue for trans rights: a lot of their loudest activists come across as raging lunatics. I don’t think anyone normal objects to a few private separate bathrooms for trans kids, but you sound so weird and deranged that you make people question everything.

And nobody normal buys your absolutely bizarre fantasies here. You are talking about something that exists solely in your absolutely creepy imagination. Just stop it. You are making things worse for your cause, not better.

Sounds like you haven’t had to deal with our local locker rooms after your kids’ swim lessons. People hanging out buck naked for long periods of time make other people uncomfortable. It is completely unnecessary and comes off as a fetish.

A self-professed TERF has detailed out her own joy hanging out naked in the W-L locker room as well as pleasure she gets watching young girls dance around naked in the locker room.

It’s indisputably creepy.

This is a figment of your turgid imagination and it is extremely weird behavior from you.

It’s real. Google TERF Washington Liberty pool.

I did. I only get news reports about an alleged sex offender allegedly exposing himself. No blogs whatsoever.

Like I said, you are crazy and extremely weird. You need to pipe down because you are hurting your cause. You sound like a lunatic.

The sex offender at W-L should not have been allowed anywhere near a locker room, whether it was the girls locker room or the boys locker room. This isn't a gender/trans issue, it's a sex offender issue. I don't get people trying to make it into a trans issue. Would they be ok with a sex offender in the boys locker room? I would not be ok with that at all. No one should be ok with that. APS changes its policy to screen sex offenders now before letting people into locker rooms, something they should have had all along.

As people has been explained, the APS policy is the reason that person was allowed access despite complaints about their actual behavior. You’re saying the same person doing the same thing without a criminal record is fine. The policy is the issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a way we can separate the two issues of locker rooms and restrooms? The locker room issue is much more controversial, sensitive and complex.
But can we agree that trans children and teens using a bathroom stall is a nothingburger???

Most public restrooms (including in many schools I've been in) do not have complete privacy in the bathroom stalls. There is often a huge gap (more than an inch!) between the door and the stall frame. I've accidentally made eye contact with someone in a stall when glancing to determine if someone is in there!
So to me, it is definitely not a "nothingburger."

Ewww. Why are you looking in stalls?

Yeah, I've been using public restrooms all my life and I have never looked inside of a stall through the crack. You bend down and look for legs to see if a stall is occupied. Try this, PP, problem solved.

Pp you are talking to here.
I don’t “look through the crack.”
I don’t bend down to look under the door either!
Thr point is, the crack was so wide that even just a quick glance at the door meant I was able to see the person well enough to make eye contact.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a way we can separate the two issues of locker rooms and restrooms? The locker room issue is much more controversial, sensitive and complex.
But can we agree that trans children and teens using a bathroom stall is a nothingburger???

I mean, maybe, that perhaps is school dependent? My kid was hesitant to use the bathroom because some kids have stuck their phone quickly under the door and posted pics of other kids on social media. Other schools have had kids OD in the stall and it wasn’t immediately discovered. Bathrooms in middle and high are often not a nothingburger, and that’s without any additional factors.

PP you’re quoting here. I absolutely agree that ms/hs bathrooms are beset by lots of problems…. I just meant that having a trans kid in there is not problematic. But I wasn’t very clear about that.

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NP, and mom of middle school son in APS. My son, his friends, and teammates have no tolerance for bio girls in their locker room and bathrooms (I read their group texts as a condition of son getting a phone, mom can monitor it). They will chase them out.

This year, I expect him/them to get into trouble for harassment like the 2 Loudon boys.

That said, I don’t expect any bio girls to enter. my son tells me about the conditions of the boys bathrooms, like feces smeared on the walls and occasionally dumps taken on the floor. He sometimes sneaks into faculty bathroom or unisex to escape the stench.

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt any of the anti trans posters have even been in a high school recently. 90% of kids don’t change where I teach anymore, they just wear comfy clothes to school and throw on sneakers. Locker rooms aren’t a huge deal. Certainly no showers or naked displays.

Bathrooms are behind a stall door so again, not sure what anyone thinks they’ll see.

If you’re truly worried about sex offenders in locker rooms and bathrooms, not trans children, let’s brainstorm ways to stop that.

EXACTLY.

That Arlington predator wasn't allowed in either bathroom.

My two APS teens have never changed in an open locker room, either for gym or varsity sports.

The only naked people I've seen in locker rooms in the last decade are older ladies at the pool who are creepy exhibitionists.

It is interesting how the sexism, misogyny, and ageism of trans activists always seeps out. They can’t keep it in, for whatever reason. It is just a core part of who they are, I guess.

I think this is part of the reason a lot of trans rights issues have become approximately 90/10 issues (including Gen Z).

It’s odd how the schools are taking such an unprincipled and unpopular stance. They could compromise (create a safe third space for trans kids, address sports on a case by case basis, etc) but they are so determined to fight for the rights of misogynists that they can’t back down.

I’m a Millennial who has noted for years (well before the current GOP trans panic) that the only people parading around locker rooms nude are old ladies, and when I say parade, I mean parade. As in, awkward changing my 3 year old in there parade. Blow drying the hair, applying the makeup, reorganizing the gym bag, and shooting the breeze completely nude. From what my husband told me, it’s the same in the men’s room.

If it’s ageist and sexist to speak the truth, I’m guilty as charged. Now put some clothes on, there are kids present.

I hope you don’t have daughters. They deserve better than to be taught by someone who actively despises women as deeply as you do. It’s so sad to watch. I’d suggest therapy, but I think your self-loathing goes too deep for that.

There is nothing misogynistic about not wanting pervy old women strutting around the locker room buck naked because they have some kind of exhibitionism fetish.

Wow. You are profoundly messed up.

I’m not the exhibitionist making everyone else uncomfortable in the locker room with my fetish.

So incredibly messed up. My God.

Yes, no one should be lingering buck naked for long periods of time in the locker room. Their exhibitionism makes everyone uncomfortable. No one should be blogging about naked kids dancing around the locker room either - so creepy.

Honey, a word of advice. Stop digging. You are only sounding weirder and more insane with each post. This is actually exemplary of a serious issue for trans rights: a lot of their loudest activists come across as raging lunatics. I don’t think anyone normal objects to a few private separate bathrooms for trans kids, but you sound so weird and deranged that you make people question everything.

And nobody normal buys your absolutely bizarre fantasies here. You are talking about something that exists solely in your absolutely creepy imagination. Just stop it. You are making things worse for your cause, not better.

Sounds like you haven’t had to deal with our local locker rooms after your kids’ swim lessons. People hanging out buck naked for long periods of time make other people uncomfortable. It is completely unnecessary and comes off as a fetish.

A self-professed TERF has detailed out her own joy hanging out naked in the W-L locker room as well as pleasure she gets watching young girls dance around naked in the locker room.

It’s indisputably creepy.

This is a figment of your turgid imagination and it is extremely weird behavior from you.

It’s real. Google TERF Washington Liberty pool.

I did. I only get news reports about an alleged sex offender allegedly exposing himself. No blogs whatsoever.

Like I said, you are crazy and extremely weird. You need to pipe down because you are hurting your cause. You sound like a lunatic.

The sex offender at W-L should not have been allowed anywhere near a locker room, whether it was the girls locker room or the boys locker room. This isn't a gender/trans issue, it's a sex offender issue. I don't get people trying to make it into a trans issue. Would they be ok with a sex offender in the boys locker room? I would not be ok with that at all. No one should be ok with that. APS changes its policy to screen sex offenders now before letting people into locker rooms, something they should have had all along.

As people has been explained, the APS policy is the reason that person was allowed access despite complaints about their actual behavior. You’re saying the same person doing the same thing without a criminal record is fine. The policy is the issue.

You're saying you're ok with the same perv in the boys room.

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt any of the anti trans posters have even been in a high school recently. 90% of kids don’t change where I teach anymore, they just wear comfy clothes to school and throw on sneakers. Locker rooms aren’t a huge deal. Certainly no showers or naked displays.

Bathrooms are behind a stall door so again, not sure what anyone thinks they’ll see.

If you’re truly worried about sex offenders in locker rooms and bathrooms, not trans children, let’s brainstorm ways to stop that.

EXACTLY.

That Arlington predator wasn't allowed in either bathroom.

My two APS teens have never changed in an open locker room, either for gym or varsity sports.

The only naked people I've seen in locker rooms in the last decade are older ladies at the pool who are creepy exhibitionists.

It is interesting how the sexism, misogyny, and ageism of trans activists always seeps out. They can’t keep it in, for whatever reason. It is just a core part of who they are, I guess.

I think this is part of the reason a lot of trans rights issues have become approximately 90/10 issues (including Gen Z).

It’s odd how the schools are taking such an unprincipled and unpopular stance. They could compromise (create a safe third space for trans kids, address sports on a case by case basis, etc) but they are so determined to fight for the rights of misogynists that they can’t back down.

I’m a Millennial who has noted for years (well before the current GOP trans panic) that the only people parading around locker rooms nude are old ladies, and when I say parade, I mean parade. As in, awkward changing my 3 year old in there parade. Blow drying the hair, applying the makeup, reorganizing the gym bag, and shooting the breeze completely nude. From what my husband told me, it’s the same in the men’s room.

If it’s ageist and sexist to speak the truth, I’m guilty as charged. Now put some clothes on, there are kids present.

I hope you don’t have daughters. They deserve better than to be taught by someone who actively despises women as deeply as you do. It’s so sad to watch. I’d suggest therapy, but I think your self-loathing goes too deep for that.

There is nothing misogynistic about not wanting pervy old women strutting around the locker room buck naked because they have some kind of exhibitionism fetish.

Wow. You are profoundly messed up.

I’m not the exhibitionist making everyone else uncomfortable in the locker room with my fetish.

So incredibly messed up. My God.

Yes, no one should be lingering buck naked for long periods of time in the locker room. Their exhibitionism makes everyone uncomfortable. No one should be blogging about naked kids dancing around the locker room either - so creepy.

Honey, a word of advice. Stop digging. You are only sounding weirder and more insane with each post. This is actually exemplary of a serious issue for trans rights: a lot of their loudest activists come across as raging lunatics. I don’t think anyone normal objects to a few private separate bathrooms for trans kids, but you sound so weird and deranged that you make people question everything.

And nobody normal buys your absolutely bizarre fantasies here. You are talking about something that exists solely in your absolutely creepy imagination. Just stop it. You are making things worse for your cause, not better.

Sounds like you haven’t had to deal with our local locker rooms after your kids’ swim lessons. People hanging out buck naked for long periods of time make other people uncomfortable. It is completely unnecessary and comes off as a fetish.

A self-professed TERF has detailed out her own joy hanging out naked in the W-L locker room as well as pleasure she gets watching young girls dance around naked in the locker room.

It’s indisputably creepy.

This is a figment of your turgid imagination and it is extremely weird behavior from you.

It’s real. Google TERF Washington Liberty pool.

I did. I only get news reports about an alleged sex offender allegedly exposing himself. No blogs whatsoever.

Like I said, you are crazy and extremely weird. You need to pipe down because you are hurting your cause. You sound like a lunatic.

The sex offender at W-L should not have been allowed anywhere near a locker room, whether it was the girls locker room or the boys locker room. This isn't a gender/trans issue, it's a sex offender issue. I don't get people trying to make it into a trans issue. Would they be ok with a sex offender in the boys locker room? I would not be ok with that at all. No one should be ok with that. APS changes its policy to screen sex offenders now before letting people into locker rooms, something they should have had all along.

As people has been explained, the APS policy is the reason that person was allowed access despite complaints about their actual behavior. You’re saying the same person doing the same thing without a criminal record is fine. The policy is the issue.

Exactly.

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I saw this elsewhere online & wondered if it’s a real pic. Does anyone know?

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Anonymous wrote:Wait? NCAA has tracked back but APS and FCPS haven’t?

“The school division policies allow students of the opposite sex access to sex-separated facilities. They also allow students of the opposite sex to participate in sex-separated sports.“

I guess I’ll start looking at single sex private schools for high school. I thought we realized that very few people want this, and it’s unfair to women.

Please go say this under your real name. Own it if you really think this is right. If you just stay anonymous you must know on some level how hateful your views are.

Why do you believe we are ashamed of supporting women’s and girls rights? That is not hateful, it’s following the law and fair.

Anyone else find it funny MAGA is pro women and girls rights in *this* context but not all others?

By “funny” I mean deeply unsettling and frustrating

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Anonymous wrote:Wait? NCAA has tracked back but APS and FCPS haven’t?

“The school division policies allow students of the opposite sex access to sex-separated facilities. They also allow students of the opposite sex to participate in sex-separated sports.“

I guess I’ll start looking at single sex private schools for high school. I thought we realized that very few people want this, and it’s unfair to women.

Please go say this under your real name. Own it if you really think this is right. If you just stay anonymous you must know on some level how hateful your views are.

Why do you believe we are ashamed of supporting women’s and girls rights? That is not hateful, it’s following the law and fair.

Anyone else find it funny MAGA is pro women and girls rights in *this* context but not all others?

By “funny” I mean deeply unsettling and frustrating

Your mistake is thinking that everyone on the 90 side of this 90/10 issue is MAGA.

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Gross if this really happened

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Anonymous wrote:Wait? NCAA has tracked back but APS and FCPS haven’t?

“The school division policies allow students of the opposite sex access to sex-separated facilities. They also allow students of the opposite sex to participate in sex-separated sports.“

I guess I’ll start looking at single sex private schools for high school. I thought we realized that very few people want this, and it’s unfair to women.

Please go say this under your real name. Own it if you really think this is right. If you just stay anonymous you must know on some level how hateful your views are.

Why do you believe we are ashamed of supporting women’s and girls rights? That is not hateful, it’s following the law and fair.

Anyone else find it funny MAGA is pro women and girls rights in *this* context but not all others?

By “funny” I mean deeply unsettling and frustrating

Your mistake is thinking that everyone on the 90 side of this 90/10 issue is MAGA.

Not 90. Certainly not in Arlington.

A few may not be hard core MAGA but they are happy to push MAGA propaganda.