Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

[Anonymous]

Wasn't Kupperman the one who asked a district court if he could skip the subpoena and deposition? He'd already signalled that he wouldn't show today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wasn't Kupperman the one who asked a district court if he could skip the subpoena and deposition? He'd already signalled that he wouldn't show today.

Yup, discussed a page or two back. And here’s his letter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So the impeachment is focused on Ukraine right. So why did the House request the grand jury materials from DOJ. Do you think the House is going to do an article on obstruction of justice?

Worth noting that the request for the grand jury materials predated the Ukraine stuff coming to light. I’m not exactly sure whether they’re going to do a giant laundry list or focus on Ukraine.

If I was Pelosi, I would send the articles of impeachment on Ukraine to the Senate and start working on a new set of articles. Send articles of impeachment to Senate on a flow basis - there's only so much time they can dedicate to investigating his corruption.

Nope, there is one bite at the apple on this. You have to get it airtight and 100% right.

Says who?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the impeachment is focused on Ukraine right. So why did the House request the grand jury materials from DOJ. Do you think the House is going to do an article on obstruction of justice?

Worth noting that the request for the grand jury materials predated the Ukraine stuff coming to light. I’m not exactly sure whether they’re going to do a giant laundry list or focus on Ukraine.

If I was Pelosi, I would send the articles of impeachment on Ukraine to the Senate and start working on a new set of articles. Send articles of impeachment to Senate on a flow basis - there's only so much time they can dedicate to investigating his corruption.

Nope, there is one bite at the apple on this. You have to get it airtight and 100% right.

[citation needed]

[Anonymous]

From Geoff Bennett at NBC News:

“Speaker Pelosi says resolution coming that establishes the procedure for public hearings, authorizes the disclosure of deposition transcripts, outlines procedures to transfer evidence to the Judiciary Committee, and sets forth due process rights for POTUS in impeachment inquiry.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From Geoff Bennett at NBC News:

“Speaker Pelosi says resolution coming that establishes the procedure for public hearings, authorizes the disclosure of deposition transcripts, outlines procedures to transfer evidence to the Judiciary Committee, and sets forth due process rights for POTUS in impeachment inquiry.”

^^^ WSJ reports the vote will be this Thursday.

[Anonymous]

Once that passes, it will end the whole "process" argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Once that passes, it will end the whole "process" argument.

That’s the idea. They don’t have to but they’re going to anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Once that passes, it will end the whole "process" argument.

nuh uh.

Precedent from Watergate says you need a senate comm to investigate first, and that the chair has to be from North Carolina.

If Pelosi does it any differently from that its a total unconstitutional coup.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once that passes, it will end the whole "process" argument.

nuh uh.

Precedent from Watergate says you need a senate comm to investigate first, and that the chair has to be from North Carolina.

If Pelosi does it any differently from that its a total unconstitutional coup.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once that passes, it will end the whole "process" argument.

nuh uh.

Precedent from Watergate says you need a senate comm to investigate first, and that the chair has to be from North Carolina.

If Pelosi does it any differently from that its a total unconstitutional coup.

Burr from NC chairs the Senate Intel Committee! Perfect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the impeachment is focused on Ukraine right. So why did the House request the grand jury materials from DOJ. Do you think the House is going to do an article on obstruction of justice?

Worth noting that the request for the grand jury materials predated the Ukraine stuff coming to light. I’m not exactly sure whether they’re going to do a giant laundry list or focus on Ukraine.

If I was Pelosi, I would send the articles of impeachment on Ukraine to the Senate and start working on a new set of articles. Send articles of impeachment to Senate on a flow basis - there's only so much time they can dedicate to investigating his corruption.

Nope, there is one bite at the apple on this. You have to get it airtight and 100% right.

Says who?

Legally they can impeach him every day from now until he leaves office. Politically, if they can't convince 20 Republicans that he deserves conviction now, then nothing will and another impeachment trial will just look stupid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the impeachment is focused on Ukraine right. So why did the House request the grand jury materials from DOJ. Do you think the House is going to do an article on obstruction of justice?

Worth noting that the request for the grand jury materials predated the Ukraine stuff coming to light. I’m not exactly sure whether they’re going to do a giant laundry list or focus on Ukraine.

If I was Pelosi, I would send the articles of impeachment on Ukraine to the Senate and start working on a new set of articles. Send articles of impeachment to Senate on a flow basis - there's only so much time they can dedicate to investigating his corruption.

Nope, there is one bite at the apple on this. You have to get it airtight and 100% right.

Says who?

Legally they can impeach him every day from now until he leaves office. Politically, if they can't convince 20 Republicans that he deserves conviction now, then nothing will and another impeachment trial will just look stupid.

Stupid? Nope.

[Anonymous]

So now the argument is, everything done before this vote on Thursday is illegitimate and doesn't count.

Good one, particularly in light of the court already affirming the proceedings are legitimate.

The GOP is feckless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So now the argument is, everything done before this vote on Thursday is illegitimate and doesn't count.

Good one, particularly in light of the court already affirming the proceedings are legitimate.

The GOP is feckless.

Agree, but the counter argument is if it didn’t count before, let’s do all the testimony again, this time in public.