I’m getting nervous about school because of delta

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.

I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.

I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.

Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.

As a HS teacher, I will refuse to do this. Your kids will need to catch up the old fashioned way.

And this is why I will lie if my kid has covid. He will be in the classroom.

Sorry. This is just wrong on so many levels.

Wrong is being in a pandemic and forcing kids to stay home for weeks on end and not allowing them to have access to the class in HS. My kid will be in 10th grade with 4 AP courses. They will fly past material and he cannot afford to miss school. And when he is applying to colleges no college will say oh well he did poorly in 10th due his week long + quarantine due to covid in 2021.

That’s why the teachers in this thread are saying masks should equal the ability to drop quarantine. Your kids cant miss if they’re not even sick and we aren’t teaching concurrent to quarantining kids all year.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.

I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.

I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.

Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.

As a HS teacher, I will refuse to do this. Your kids will need to catch up the old fashioned way.

And this is why I will lie if my kid has covid. He will be in the classroom.

I get your point but realistically unless he’s asymptomatic (in which case you’d likely not know he has it anyway) that’s not gonna happen. The nurse did, can and will call you if your kid has any symptoms and say you have to come get him and show a negative test to come back.

She'll just have to do that then. When my neighbor's kid has covid he lost his sense of taste and smell and was tired. No symptoms that people could see. Tired can be due to anything

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Anonymous wrote:Since they will be making everyone wear masks, no one will be quarantining just for "exposure".

For now, the close contact exemption is only for students masked between 3 - 6 feet.

Will fcps have students at > 3 feet. Will some schools be at < 3 feet?

I agree, the whole quarantine for exposure that CDC is sticking to needs to be abandoned in order for school to resume in person without disruption.

We're not really spacing in the classroom for summer school, because the kids are masked.

We didn’t last spring either. Yes, desks were 3’ to 6’ apart but the students didn’t keep that distance.

Did any of your students ever test positive? Do you know how they handled quarantines?

DP. I had a kid get pulled out of my class one day, then we got the note he wouldn’t be back for 2 weeks. Also the email from the school that a student has tested positive and was last there on X date. Their earliest date of return coincided with the end of the year so I never saw them again. No contact tracing or any quarantining of the other kids in the room that day.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.

I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.

I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.

Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.

As a HS teacher, I will refuse to do this. Your kids will need to catch up the old fashioned way.

And this is why I will lie if my kid has covid. He will be in the classroom.

Here’s hoping your kid didn’t inherit your narcissistic and sociopathic tendencies.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.

I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.

I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.

Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.

As a HS teacher, I will refuse to do this. Your kids will need to catch up the old fashioned way.

And this is why I will lie if my kid has covid. He will be in the classroom.

I get your point but realistically unless he’s asymptomatic (in which case you’d likely not know he has it anyway) that’s not gonna happen. The nurse did, can and will call you if your kid has any symptoms and say you have to come get him and show a negative test to come back.

She'll just have to do that then. When my neighbor's kid has covid he lost his sense of taste and smell and was tired. No symptoms that people could see. Tired can be due to anything

Ok. Maybe it’s time for a break from this thread. I don’t think this is the real you.

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Anonymous wrote:Since they will be making everyone wear masks, no one will be quarantining just for "exposure".

For now, the close contact exemption is only for students masked between 3 - 6 feet.

Will fcps have students at > 3 feet. Will some schools be at < 3 feet?

I agree, the whole quarantine for exposure that CDC is sticking to needs to be abandoned in order for school to resume in person without disruption.

We're not really spacing in the classroom for summer school, because the kids are masked.

We didn’t last spring either. Yes, desks were 3’ to 6’ apart but the students didn’t keep that distance.

Did any of your students ever test positive? Do you know how they handled quarantines?

None of mine ever tested positive. We received one email notification about a student case between March and the end of school in June. This is at a large ES.

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FCPS must have a plan for MS and HS kids that need to quarentine. Concurrent over Google Meet really is the only solution.

Sorry teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:Since they will be making everyone wear masks, no one will be quarantining just for "exposure".

For now, the close contact exemption is only for students masked between 3 - 6 feet.

Will fcps have students at > 3 feet. Will some schools be at < 3 feet?

I agree, the whole quarantine for exposure that CDC is sticking to needs to be abandoned in order for school to resume in person without disruption.

We're not really spacing in the classroom for summer school, because the kids are masked.

Theres also barely any covid circulating in fairfax at this point.

This whole discussion and the other discussions in the health board is all based on freak outs about delta with no way of knowing how it will go. To me, covid is barely there yet I feel like people are thinking the world is going to end in a few weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS must have a plan for MS and HS kids that need to quarentine. Concurrent over Google Meet really is the only solution.

Sorry teachers.

Not sorry teachers. Sorry to all the kids who would get again have compromised learning experiences. They won’t require quarantine if all were masked. Which is why all will be masked at all levels.

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS must have a plan for MS and HS kids that need to quarentine. Concurrent over Google Meet really is the only solution.

Sorry teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:Since they will be making everyone wear masks, no one will be quarantining just for "exposure".

For now, the close contact exemption is only for students masked between 3 - 6 feet.

Will fcps have students at > 3 feet. Will some schools be at < 3 feet?

I agree, the whole quarantine for exposure that CDC is sticking to needs to be abandoned in order for school to resume in person without disruption.

We're not really spacing in the classroom for summer school, because the kids are masked.

Theres also barely any covid circulating in fairfax at this point.

This whole discussion and the other discussions in the health board is all based on freak outs about delta with no way of knowing how it will go. To me, covid is barely there yet I feel like people are thinking the world is going to end in a few weeks.

I see comments like this a lot and I think it’s from people who don’t look at the daily numbers. Our rates are rising at a rapid rate. Catastrophic? No. But I’m the country there were more cases reported yesterday than on the same date in July 2020. Really. So when you see our cases go up and our PCR go up and overall trends everywhere on a steep climb, you actually see it’s here. If you never look at that I see how you can go on as if it isn’t. I’m not overly worried on the whole but I’m also not going to stay ignorant of the stats.

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS must have a plan for MS and HS kids that need to quarentine. Concurrent over Google Meet really is the only solution.

Sorry teachers.

Not sorry teachers. Sorry to all the kids who would get again have compromised learning experiences. They won’t require quarantine if all were masked. Which is why all will be masked at all levels.

You don't know that. FCPS has yet to release their plan

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS must have a plan for MS and HS kids that need to quarentine. Concurrent over Google Meet really is the only solution.

Sorry teachers.

or at least kids who take HS courses. It's not needed for MS students unless they're taking a HS class.

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS must have a plan for MS and HS kids that need to quarentine. Concurrent over Google Meet really is the only solution.

Sorry teachers.

Not sorry teachers. Sorry to all the kids who would get again have compromised learning experiences. They won’t require quarantine if all were masked. Which is why all will be masked at all levels.

You don't know that. FCPS has yet to release their plan

The plan is NO CONCURRENT!!!

It’s not happening. End of story. It’s not in our job description this year. We are teaching in person to the kids in the class and that’s it. We will work with families who need help catching up if sick.

As for quarantine plan, FCPS would need their own plan different from what CDC says and not make masked contacts quarantine. Last year, even at the end, CDC was still saying that being masked didn’t change contact status and quarantine was required.

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS must have a plan for MS and HS kids that need to quarentine. Concurrent over Google Meet really is the only solution.

Sorry teachers.

Not sorry teachers. Sorry to all the kids who would get again have compromised learning experiences. They won’t require quarantine if all were masked. Which is why all will be masked at all levels.

You don't know that. FCPS has yet to release their plan

The plan is NO CONCURRENT!!!

It’s not happening. End of story. It’s not in our job description this year. We are teaching in person to the kids in the class and that’s it. We will work with families who need help catching up if sick.

As for quarantine plan, FCPS would need their own plan different from what CDC says and not make masked contacts quarantine. Last year, even at the end, CDC was still saying that being masked didn’t change contact status and quarantine was required.

From this spring:

The “classroom monitor” program, which secured temporary workers to effectively babysit classes taught by teachers working remotely, will end forever come fall, Brabrand said. Ditto for the “concurrent” model of teaching, which asked teachers to simultaneously instruct children learning remotely and children learning inside the classroom.