MN Police Shoot and Kill Daunte Wright

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just curious here; informal poll

- how many felony warrants does everyone have?

- how many illegal gun charges did you have when you were 20?

- what’s everyone’s rap sheet look like, especially as to narcotics dealing before you were 21?

- does anyone here have insurance on their car?


Irrelevant. People who commit crimes still have rights, like it or not.


Like it or not, cops have a right to be maybe a little more cautious around armed drug dealers, doncha think?


Maybe but they were not dealing with an armed drug dealer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just curious here; informal poll

- how many felony warrants does everyone have?

- how many illegal gun charges did you have when you were 20?

- what’s everyone’s rap sheet look like, especially as to narcotics dealing before you were 21?

- does anyone here have insurance on their car?


Irrelevant. People who commit crimes still have rights, like it or not.


Like it or not, cops have a right to be maybe a little more cautious around armed drug dealers, doncha think?


All of this is hindsight. At the time, he was a just a Black kid, and that alone was enough to make him scary.


His warrants / past gun-crimes were known before the officers even got out of their car; they appear automatically on the cruiser’s plate - reader.


Anonymous






Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just curious here; informal poll

- how many felony warrants does everyone have?

- how many illegal gun charges did you have when you were 20?

- what’s everyone’s rap sheet look like, especially as to narcotics dealing before you were 21?

- does anyone here have insurance on their car?


Irrelevant. People who commit crimes still have rights, like it or not.


Like it or not, cops have a right to be maybe a little more cautious around armed drug dealers, doncha think?


All of this is hindsight. At the time, he was a just a Black kid, and that alone was enough to make him scary.


His warrants / past gun-crimes were known before the officers even got out of their car; they appear automatically on the cruiser’s plate - reader.




Misdemeanor for a permit. Big deal
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a little confused. Wouldn't it make more sense that they ran his plates, noticed he had an outstanding warrant, told him to pull over to get arrested for that, and then he fled calling his mom claiming it was for an air freshener?


Ran his plate for what reason?
.

No reason needed to run a plate. Some cruisers do it automatically. Yours have certainly been run several times and there is no way you would know. Why do you care?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a little confused. Wouldn't it make more sense that they ran his plates, noticed he had an outstanding warrant, told him to pull over to get arrested for that, and then he fled calling his mom claiming it was for an air freshener?


Ran his plate for what reason?
.

No reason needed to run a plate. Some cruisers do it automatically. Yours have certainly been run several times and there is no way you would know. Why do you care?


Because sometime you are asked to go to court but the govt is incompetent and the letter never makes it to your house, you fail to appear (because you were never notified) and then a warrant is issued for no good reason, then you die.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The dash cam footage is out. It’s bad. She thought she had a taser.


I think the body cam footage is quite exculpatory. He wrestled out of handcuffs (!!! Why???) and she followed procedure for taser. She clearly had no lethal intent. If he had stayed instead of driving off, they could have administered first aid and maybe saved him. Sorry, but he’s the start for each thing that went wrong here.


It’s horrible, but he should have not fled.



It’s horrible but they should not have fought him. They could easily picked him up later.

This isn't a complex thought: Police should not shoot anyone running away from them. Ever.

+1 The Supreme a court ruled on this before this officer was even born. It should not keep happening.


Incorrect. Officers can fire at subjects while running away in several situations, including notably when they are fleeing the scene of a violent felony and/or fleeing the scene armed in an attempt to gain cover. You really think officers can’t fire at a man they saw shoot someone and run away? Just think it through people, it’s not that hard.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a little confused. Wouldn't it make more sense that they ran his plates, noticed he had an outstanding warrant, told him to pull over to get arrested for that, and then he fled calling his mom claiming it was for an air freshener?


Ran his plate for what reason?
.

No reason needed to run a plate. Some cruisers do it automatically. Yours have certainly been run several times and there is no way you would know. Why do you care?


Because sometime you are asked to go to court but the govt is incompetent and the letter never makes it to your house, you fail to appear (because you were never notified) and then a warrant is issued for no good reason, then you die.


So police should never check for warrants because of the possibility that, hey, maybe this guy doesn’t know he has a warrant so why does it matter let’s just let it go?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The dash cam footage is out. It’s bad. She thought she had a taser.


I think the body cam footage is quite exculpatory. He wrestled out of handcuffs (!!! Why???) and she followed procedure for taser. She clearly had no lethal intent. If he had stayed instead of driving off, they could have administered first aid and maybe saved him. Sorry, but he’s the start for each thing that went wrong here.


It’s horrible, but he should have not fled.



It’s horrible but they should not have fought him. They could easily picked him up later.

This isn't a complex thought: Police should not shoot anyone running away from them. Ever.

+1 The Supreme a court ruled on this before this officer was even born. It should not keep happening.


Incorrect. Officers can fire at subjects while running away in several situations, including notably when they are fleeing the scene of a violent felony and/or fleeing the scene armed in an attempt to gain cover. You really think officers can’t fire at a man they saw shoot someone and run away? Just think it through people, it’s not that hard.


+1

Are the other posters trolls or just ignorant? A police officer can absolutely shoot someone fleeing if they have prob cause to believe that they pose a deadly threat or a threat of great bodily harm to the community if they escape. The supreme court ruled on this about 35 years ago in Tennesse vs Garner. Another relevant case for use of force would be Graham vs. Connor. But you would probably rather ramble on about your political/SJW nonsense.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The dash cam footage is out. It’s bad. She thought she had a taser.


I think the body cam footage is quite exculpatory. He wrestled out of handcuffs (!!! Why???) and she followed procedure for taser. She clearly had no lethal intent. If he had stayed instead of driving off, they could have administered first aid and maybe saved him. Sorry, but he’s the start for each thing that went wrong here.


It’s horrible, but he should have not fled.



It’s horrible but they should not have fought him. They could easily picked him up later.

This isn't a complex thought: Police should not shoot anyone running away from them. Ever.

+1 The Supreme a court ruled on this before this officer was even born. It should not keep happening.


Incorrect. Officers can fire at subjects while running away in several situations, including notably when they are fleeing the scene of a violent felony and/or fleeing the scene armed in an attempt to gain cover. You really think officers can’t fire at a man they saw shoot someone and run away? Just think it through people, it’s not that hard.


+1

Are the other posters trolls or just ignorant? A police officer can absolutely shoot someone fleeing if they have prob cause to believe that they pose a deadly threat or a threat of great bodily harm to the community if they escape. The supreme court ruled on this about 35 years ago in Tennesse vs Garner. Another relevant case for use of force would be Graham vs. Connor. But you would probably rather ramble on about your political/SJW nonsense.


Though all of that is irrelevant to this case.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The dash cam footage is out. It’s bad. She thought she had a taser.


I think the body cam footage is quite exculpatory. He wrestled out of handcuffs (!!! Why???) and she followed procedure for taser. She clearly had no lethal intent. If he had stayed instead of driving off, they could have administered first aid and maybe saved him. Sorry, but he’s the start for each thing that went wrong here.


It’s horrible, but he should have not fled.



It’s horrible but they should not have fought him. They could easily picked him up later.

This isn't a complex thought: Police should not shoot anyone running away from them. Ever.

+1 The Supreme a court ruled on this before this officer was even born. It should not keep happening.


Incorrect. Officers can fire at subjects while running away in several situations, including notably when they are fleeing the scene of a violent felony and/or fleeing the scene armed in an attempt to gain cover. You really think officers can’t fire at a man they saw shoot someone and run away? Just think it through people, it’s not that hard.


+1

Are the other posters trolls or just ignorant? A police officer can absolutely shoot someone fleeing if they have prob cause to believe that they pose a deadly threat or a threat of great bodily harm to the community if they escape. The supreme court ruled on this about 35 years ago in Tennesse vs Garner. Another relevant case for use of force would be Graham vs. Connor. But you would probably rather ramble on about your political/SJW nonsense.


Though all of that is irrelevant to this case.


- the issue of race is also irrelevant to this case.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Cop who investigates police shootings here.

It was a mistake, she did not “intend” to shoot him. But she did not follow police procedures (keep tazer on opposite side of body) and her neglect caused a death. Procedures are in place so these things don’t happen.

That is a crime.


Thank you.

She may not have been a "bad" copy as in a "dirty" cop but she is a bad cop due to negligence and/or poor training.

Mistaking a firearm for a taser is a MAJOR mistake and in this situation a deadly mistake.


And of course it had to be made into a racial
issue even when it wasn’t one.


It is.

I'm a white female and when I was young, I was outright hostile to cops. Ran from them, yelled at them, gave them attitude, etc. None ever tazed me. Most laughed it off, let me off with a warning instead of a ticket, hell some would give me their #.

BIPOC can't do that.


Wow. I'm also a white female and have had cops treat me like crap. FWIW, I have never been "in trouble" with the law--not even a speeding ticket. This is when I had to make a police report as a victim.

I would never yell at a cop or "give them attitude."


Another white female here. I’ve never once been let off with a warning. Tickets every time (just minor speeding, nothing serious). I’m very polite and I immediately find everything the police will need before they get to my car and hand it over without a fuss.

I’m so sick of people acting like white people treat police like crap and get away with it. First, we don’t treat police like crap. And second, we don’t get away with things either.

It’s never crossed my mind to complain about police officers doing their job.

Wow. You're so clueless that maybe you shouldn't comment. First off, we're not talking about getting tickets...we're talking about getting killed. Second, nobody is complaining about police officers doing their job. Their job was to arrest the suspect, not "accidentally" kill him.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Wright was a very bad man.

The warrant was over unpaid fines for 2 minor misdemeanors — one a marijuana case — totaling $346. He pled guilty, filed for deferred payment and they were sent to collections.

We can't have individuals like this in our communities.

This made him a bad man.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Cop who investigates police shootings here.

It was a mistake, she did not “intend” to shoot him. But she did not follow police procedures (keep tazer on opposite side of body) and her neglect caused a death. Procedures are in place so these things don’t happen.

That is a crime.


Thank you.

She may not have been a "bad" copy as in a "dirty" cop but she is a bad cop due to negligence and/or poor training.

Mistaking a firearm for a taser is a MAJOR mistake and in this situation a deadly mistake.


And of course it had to be made into a racial
issue even when it wasn’t one.


It is.

I'm a white female and when I was young, I was outright hostile to cops. Ran from them, yelled at them, gave them attitude, etc. None ever tazed me. Most laughed it off, let me off with a warning instead of a ticket, hell some would give me their #.

BIPOC can't do that.


Wow. I'm also a white female and have had cops treat me like crap. FWIW, I have never been "in trouble" with the law--not even a speeding ticket. This is when I had to make a police report as a victim.

I would never yell at a cop or "give them attitude."


Another white female here. I’ve never once been let off with a warning. Tickets every time (just minor speeding, nothing serious). I’m very polite and I immediately find everything the police will need before they get to my car and hand it over without a fuss.

I’m so sick of people acting like white people treat police like crap and get away with it. First, we don’t treat police like crap. And second, we don’t get away with things either.

It’s never crossed my mind to complain about police officers doing their job.

That’s because you have not lived as a black man in America.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The dash cam footage is out. It’s bad. She thought she had a taser.


I think the body cam footage is quite exculpatory. He wrestled out of handcuffs (!!! Why???) and she followed procedure for taser. She clearly had no lethal intent. If he had stayed instead of driving off, they could have administered first aid and maybe saved him. Sorry, but he’s the start for each thing that went wrong here.


It’s horrible, but he should have not fled.



It’s horrible but they should not have fought him. They could easily picked him up later.

This isn't a complex thought: Police should not shoot anyone running away from them. Ever.

+1 The Supreme a court ruled on this before this officer was even born. It should not keep happening.


Incorrect. Officers can fire at subjects while running away in several situations, including notably when they are fleeing the scene of a violent felony and/or fleeing the scene armed in an attempt to gain cover. You really think officers can’t fire at a man they saw shoot someone and run away? Just think it through people, it’s not that hard.


+1

Are the other posters trolls or just ignorant? A police officer can absolutely shoot someone fleeing if they have prob cause to believe that they pose a deadly threat or a threat of great bodily harm to the community if they escape. The supreme court ruled on this about 35 years ago in Tennesse vs Garner. Another relevant case for use of force would be Graham vs. Connor. But you would probably rather ramble on about your political/SJW nonsense.

No. The other posters aren't trolls or ignorant. They are replying to the facts in this case. What you said is irrelevant to this situation. You sound like an ignorant troll.
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