Is anyone watching Dirty John tonight? Betty Broderick's story

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Anonymous wrote:Is it on Netflix?

Yes. Hard to watch though. I could only get through about half then skipped to the end. Amanda Peet gives a great performance but watching someone unravel so completely was painful.

I would be so pissed if anyone drove a car into my house. Cannot believe the support for BB.

Am I misremembering, but wasn’t it her house, too? Like Dan tricked her into moving out of their joint marital home into a temporary house while their primary house was being renovated or something, filed, and then moved into the house that was theirs with his new wife? Or was it that he tricked her into moving out, sold their old home, and bought a new one? And then he had her committed.

It was only Dan’s house, after she moved into the fixer upper in La Jolla.

But I read she had to leave the La Jolla house and move into a condo rental because of all the financial disputes. She signed the condo over to her FWB when she was arrested. I think the "murder house" was the property he bought for Linda to live in while he was tricking Betty into leaving the family house, which he then sold against her wishes. he had it all planned out.

I think that’s right. I mean, I wouldn’t actually drive my car into the house, but I’d certainly want to if my former spouse and coparent whom I’d supported all through the lean years did that to me. What a complete evil d***. Just give her the house and half the money and move out with your side piece if you’re really just trying to get out. But he wasn’t. He wanted to destroy her. He probably thought he’d get her to kill herself. Bet that was his endgame. He figured wrong.

It's absurd given how extraordinarily wealthy the man was. Her request for 1/5 of his income for 10 years plus one million really was not unreasonable (the million would have allowed her to purchase a house and maintain it). She'd likely have gotten much more today with a truly 50-50 division of assets. Man was a sociopath, who did indeed seem to feel like she didn't have the right to exist once he was done with her. If it weren't for the damage to the children, I can absolutely see wanting to destroy people who treated me that way. But I'd like to think I'd cool my heels once the judge awarded 16k/month despite Dan's machinations.

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It was still a crime of passion mixed with mental illness. If she had unclouded premeditation in her then she would have planned the murder better. She could have hired someone, cause a car crash, a million other things than shooting them, leaving evidence and immediately telling everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone done enough digging to know how much of the Netflix series was exaggerated when it came to Dan and Linda taunting Betty?

Not exaggerated based on several sources, including one of the daughters. They used to refer to her as "Fat" and "the Beast." Betty testified she received demeaning newspaper clippings in the mail suggesting diet pills and wrinkle creams, and a clipping of Dan and Linda at a function with "Eat your heart out, b*tch" scrawled on it. The gaslighting during the lengthy affair and financial abuse are indisputable.

A normal person would have stopped calling and leaving vile messages and breaking and entering their ex's home. Betty got what she deserved.

I agree, "normal" which apparently she wasn't. Nor was Dan and Linda to do the awful things they did. Betty should have outsmarted them and had a great life. Linda would have been miserable at some point, that marriage wasn't going to last. Maybe they all got what they deserved.

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Anonymous wrote:It was still a crime of passion mixed with mental illness. If she had unclouded premeditation in her then she would have planned the murder better. She could have hired someone, cause a car crash, a million other things than shooting them, leaving evidence and immediately telling everyone.

But then no one would have known that Betty “won.” I think she wanted to people to know.

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Betty from what I've heard is relatively happy in prison. Those last 5 years were such incredible stress. I wonder if she ever saw a counselor or therapist during those times.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it on Netflix?

Yes. Hard to watch though. I could only get through about half then skipped to the end. Amanda Peet gives a great performance but watching someone unravel so completely was painful.

I would be so pissed if anyone drove a car into my house. Cannot believe the support for BB.

Am I misremembering, but wasn’t it her house, too? Like Dan tricked her into moving out of their joint marital home into a temporary house while their primary house was being renovated or something, filed, and then moved into the house that was theirs with his new wife? Or was it that he tricked her into moving out, sold their old home, and bought a new one? And then he had her committed.

It was only Dan’s house, after she moved into the fixer upper in La Jolla.

But I read she had to leave the La Jolla house and move into a condo rental because of all the financial disputes. She signed the condo over to her FWB when she was arrested. I think the "murder house" was the property he bought for Linda to live in while he was tricking Betty into leaving the family house, which he then sold against her wishes. he had it all planned out.

I think that’s right. I mean, I wouldn’t actually drive my car into the house, but I’d certainly want to if my former spouse and coparent whom I’d supported all through the lean years did that to me. What a complete evil d***. Just give her the house and half the money and move out with your side piece if you’re really just trying to get out. But he wasn’t. He wanted to destroy her. He probably thought he’d get her to kill herself. Bet that was his endgame. He figured wrong.

It's absurd given how extraordinarily wealthy the man was. Her request for 1/5 of his income for 10 years plus one million really was not unreasonable (the million would have allowed her to purchase a house and maintain it). She'd likely have gotten much more today with a truly 50-50 division of assets. Man was a sociopath, who did indeed seem to feel like she didn't have the right to exist once he was done with her. If it weren't for the damage to the children, I can absolutely see wanting to destroy people who treated me that way. But I'd like to think I'd cool my heels once the judge awarded 16k/month despite Dan's machinations.

Was he "extraordinarily wealthy"? Or did he just live a lifestyle like he was? Apparently when he died he left like $60K and it was estimated he had only $1.6 million in other assets. That's pretty tiny for the lifestyle he was portraying.

$16K a month is $192K. Was he actually make income of even double that at the time of his death? It sounds like he had a lot of money tied up investments and very little liquid and possibly debt that was not revealed.

I also wonder how Betty's upbringing played into the situation and the fear of her parents judgement and general Catholic guilt that can be drummed into people over a lifetime that they are easily consumed with guilt for not maintaining the right lifestyle. It was clear that Betty's mom was very concerned about appearances. I mean getting upset because "morning dress" wasn't worn to a wedding? I mean they are English royalty and there was not etiquette that demanded they must do that.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it on Netflix?

Yes. Hard to watch though. I could only get through about half then skipped to the end. Amanda Peet gives a great performance but watching someone unravel so completely was painful.

I would be so pissed if anyone drove a car into my house. Cannot believe the support for BB.

Am I misremembering, but wasn’t it her house, too? Like Dan tricked her into moving out of their joint marital home into a temporary house while their primary house was being renovated or something, filed, and then moved into the house that was theirs with his new wife? Or was it that he tricked her into moving out, sold their old home, and bought a new one? And then he had her committed.

It was only Dan’s house, after she moved into the fixer upper in La Jolla.

But I read she had to leave the La Jolla house and move into a condo rental because of all the financial disputes. She signed the condo over to her FWB when she was arrested. I think the "murder house" was the property he bought for Linda to live in while he was tricking Betty into leaving the family house, which he then sold against her wishes. he had it all planned out.

I think that’s right. I mean, I wouldn’t actually drive my car into the house, but I’d certainly want to if my former spouse and coparent whom I’d supported all through the lean years did that to me. What a complete evil d***. Just give her the house and half the money and move out with your side piece if you’re really just trying to get out. But he wasn’t. He wanted to destroy her. He probably thought he’d get her to kill herself. Bet that was his endgame. He figured wrong.

It's absurd given how extraordinarily wealthy the man was. Her request for 1/5 of his income for 10 years plus one million really was not unreasonable (the million would have allowed her to purchase a house and maintain it). She'd likely have gotten much more today with a truly 50-50 division of assets. Man was a sociopath, who did indeed seem to feel like she didn't have the right to exist once he was done with her. If it weren't for the damage to the children, I can absolutely see wanting to destroy people who treated me that way. But I'd like to think I'd cool my heels once the judge awarded 16k/month despite Dan's machinations.

Was he "extraordinarily wealthy"? Or did he just live a lifestyle like he was? Apparently when he died he left like $60K and it was estimated he had only $1.6 million in other assets. That's pretty tiny for the lifestyle he was portraying.

$16K a month is $192K. Was he actually make income of even double that at the time of his death? It sounds like he had a lot of money tied up investments and very little liquid and possibly debt that was not revealed.

I also wonder how Betty's upbringing played into the situation and the fear of her parents judgement and general Catholic guilt that can be drummed into people over a lifetime that they are easily consumed with guilt for not maintaining the right lifestyle. It was clear that Betty's mom was very concerned about appearances. I mean getting upset because "morning dress" wasn't worn to a wedding? I mean they are English royalty and there was not etiquette that demanded they must do that.

Good point. Wasn’t he a plaintiff’s lawyer for medical malpractice cases? Don’t those lawyers usually take their fees on a contingency basis? That kind of work can have lots of peaks and valleys in terms of financial payoffs. Dan obviously made good money, but he didn’t necessarily have a steady and endless stream of $$$ rolling in.

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Anonymous wrote:Betty from what I've heard is relatively happy in prison. Those last 5 years were such incredible stress. I wonder if she ever saw a counselor or therapist during those times.

I'd really like to know that too. Mental illness was clearly important here.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it on Netflix?

Yes. Hard to watch though. I could only get through about half then skipped to the end. Amanda Peet gives a great performance but watching someone unravel so completely was painful.

I would be so pissed if anyone drove a car into my house. Cannot believe the support for BB.

Am I misremembering, but wasn’t it her house, too? Like Dan tricked her into moving out of their joint marital home into a temporary house while their primary house was being renovated or something, filed, and then moved into the house that was theirs with his new wife? Or was it that he tricked her into moving out, sold their old home, and bought a new one? And then he had her committed.

It was only Dan’s house, after she moved into the fixer upper in La Jolla.

But I read she had to leave the La Jolla house and move into a condo rental because of all the financial disputes. She signed the condo over to her FWB when she was arrested. I think the "murder house" was the property he bought for Linda to live in while he was tricking Betty into leaving the family house, which he then sold against her wishes. he had it all planned out.

I think that’s right. I mean, I wouldn’t actually drive my car into the house, but I’d certainly want to if my former spouse and coparent whom I’d supported all through the lean years did that to me. What a complete evil d***. Just give her the house and half the money and move out with your side piece if you’re really just trying to get out. But he wasn’t. He wanted to destroy her. He probably thought he’d get her to kill herself. Bet that was his endgame. He figured wrong.

It's absurd given how extraordinarily wealthy the man was. Her request for 1/5 of his income for 10 years plus one million really was not unreasonable (the million would have allowed her to purchase a house and maintain it). She'd likely have gotten much more today with a truly 50-50 division of assets. Man was a sociopath, who did indeed seem to feel like she didn't have the right to exist once he was done with her. If it weren't for the damage to the children, I can absolutely see wanting to destroy people who treated me that way. But I'd like to think I'd cool my heels once the judge awarded 16k/month despite Dan's machinations.

Was he "extraordinarily wealthy"? Or did he just live a lifestyle like he was? Apparently when he died he left like $60K and it was estimated he had only $1.6 million in other assets. That's pretty tiny for the lifestyle he was portraying.

$16K a month is $192K. Was he actually make income of even double that at the time of his death? It sounds like he had a lot of money tied up investments and very little liquid and possibly debt that was not revealed.

I also wonder how Betty's upbringing played into the situation and the fear of her parents judgement and general Catholic guilt that can be drummed into people over a lifetime that they are easily consumed with guilt for not maintaining the right lifestyle. It was clear that Betty's mom was very concerned about appearances. I mean getting upset because "morning dress" wasn't worn to a wedding? I mean they are English royalty and there was not etiquette that demanded they must do that.

Good point. Wasn’t he a plaintiff’s lawyer for medical malpractice cases? Don’t those lawyers usually take their fees on a contingency basis? That kind of work can have lots of peaks and valleys in terms of financial payoffs. Dan obviously made good money, but he didn’t necessarily have a steady and endless stream of $$$ rolling in.

He had been earning 100K+/month at the time of the divorce judgment (1.4 million the year before) so yeah pretty damn wealthy but good point the income wasn't necessarily guaranteed. I don't know that they ever determined what happened to the 200K that "disappeared" before the legal separation or if the estate ever regained the 450K "loaned" to the brother, whom I read was later accused of stealing money from it. I don't think forensic accountings were really a thing in divorce cases at that time. It was pretty easy for the breadwinner to manipulate things in his favor, happened all the time. It's clear Dan did that.

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Anonymous wrote:Betty from what I've heard is relatively happy in prison. Those last 5 years were such incredible stress. I wonder if she ever saw a counselor or therapist during those times.

I'd really like to know that too. Mental illness was clearly important here.

In the series she does, but that doesn't mean a lot. They made Linda look like a decent person when she wasn't. In fact she was fired as a flight attendant for inappropriate behavior with a male passenger. Also, I recall a ex boyfriend claimed she was still sleeping with him when she was with Dan. She was a player and wanted Betty's life, Dan was a nerd who wasn't smart in the common sense department. It's also widely believed he was quite the narcissist which probably didn't help his judgement either.

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This was long before the series but very accurate. She apparently read the transcripts and the book by B. Stumbo that was well researched. Certainly more accurate in describing Linda.


http://atouchoftuesdayweld.blogspot.com/2010/11/betty-broderick-this-message-is-for.html

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Read the comments. I remember this, many employees didn't like Dan or Linda. Linda aka Linda Vagina among other nick names. Comments are priceless!

http://atouchoftuesdayweld.blogspot.com/2010/11/betty-broderick-this-message-is-for.html

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Anonymous wrote:Read the comments. I remember this, many employees didn't like Dan or Linda. Linda aka Linda Vagina among other nick names. Comments are priceless!

http://atouchoftuesdayweld.blogspot.com/2010/11/betty-broderick-this-message-is-for.html

Whoa the comments about Linda are consistently nasty, including by those who knew them.

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Anonymous wrote:Read the comments. I remember this, many employees didn't like Dan or Linda. Linda aka Linda Vagina among other nick names. Comments are priceless!

http://atouchoftuesdayweld.blogspot.com/2010/11/betty-broderick-this-message-is-for.html

Whoa the comments about Linda are consistently nasty, including by those who knew them.

Yes it was interesting some of the people who knew them from the legal profession. I do remember reading Dan may have been a borderline alcoholic. That was mentioned in the comments too. I think the series tried to sanitize it as much as they could.

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Anonymous wrote:Read the comments. I remember this, many employees didn't like Dan or Linda. Linda aka Linda Vagina among other nick names. Comments are priceless!

http://atouchoftuesdayweld.blogspot.com/2010/11/betty-broderick-this-message-is-for.html

Whoa the comments about Linda are consistently nasty, including by those who knew them.

Well if you’re going to sleep with a married man and father of four, you might at least be discreet. Sounds like she was a total b*tch.