I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight

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Anonymous wrote:I’m just astounded at the impunity these cops felt, slowly murdering a man in broad daylight in front of a crowd of witnesses who were recording the incident and pleading for the man’s life. Were they that confident that they would go scot-free?


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Anonymous wrote:I’m just astounded at the impunity these cops felt, slowly murdering a man in broad daylight in front of a crowd of witnesses who were recording the incident and pleading for the man’s life. Were they that confident that they would go scot-free?


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That struck me, too. It's unbelievable how callous they were.
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Anonymous wrote:He cried out for his mother before dying. Horrific.


This made me cry. As the mother of a sixteen year old black son, I can't bring myself to watch the actual video.
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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain to me why this cop did t proceed to put him in the car? What was he waiting for, in theory?


I think he was waiting to feel like the man he was kneeling on was well and truly subdued. He thought his authority had been questioned, and he wanted to demonstrate his dominance over this man.

Wasn’t he handcuffed?


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Yeah, I also get that this was more to due with the cop feeling as though his authority had been questioned. The bystanders telling the cop that the guy was in trouble only served to make that cop double down and refuse to take his knee off the man's neck.

There may have been a racial component to this, too. Not sure that's been established.


The racial component is the cop knew that because the guy was black the likelihood of punishment if something went wrong is basically zero. He would not take the chance with a white person because jury nullification isn't a guarantee like with a dead black man. How do you not get this by now?
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Awful. How did they think they would get away with this? He was handcuffed, couldn’t they have just put him in the police car?
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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain to me why this cop did t proceed to put him in the car? What was he waiting for, in theory?


I think he was waiting to feel like the man he was kneeling on was well and truly subdued. He thought his authority had been questioned, and he wanted to demonstrate his dominance over this man.

Wasn’t he handcuffed?


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Yeah, I also get that this was more to due with the cop feeling as though his authority had been questioned. The bystanders telling the cop that the guy was in trouble only served to make that cop double down and refuse to take his knee off the man's neck.

There may have been a racial component to this, too. Not sure that's been established.


The racial component is the cop knew that because the guy was black the likelihood of punishment if something went wrong is basically zero. He would not take the chance with a white person because jury nullification isn't a guarantee like with a dead black man. How do you not get this by now?


eh, no jury is going to say that what that man did is o.k. It's on video and I hope he's charged because he should be. This man literally was kneeling on that man's neck while appalled bystanders taped it. The bystanders couldn't step in to save that man because 1) it was a cop doing this 2) the cop was the one with the gun.

If this had happened to a white suspect, instead, would you not be alarmed? Because you should be. Bad cops are not good for anyone. But, remember, good cops save lives and we need them.
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Anonymous wrote:Awful. How did they think they would get away with this? He was handcuffed, couldn’t they have just put him in the police car?


I'm pretty sure that it was some sort of statement to the crowd.. the cop was showing who was in charge.
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Why have the murderers not been arrested?
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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain to me why this cop did t proceed to put him in the car? What was he waiting for, in theory?


I think he was waiting to feel like the man he was kneeling on was well and truly subdued. He thought his authority had been questioned, and he wanted to demonstrate his dominance over this man.

Wasn’t he handcuffed?


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Yeah, I also get that this was more to due with the cop feeling as though his authority had been questioned. The bystanders telling the cop that the guy was in trouble only served to make that cop double down and refuse to take his knee off the man's neck.

There may have been a racial component to this, too. Not sure that's been established.


OMG when will this end??? There is literally nothing that will make you all see. If you can watch this video of this man being murdered and have it come out your mouth that this was not racism, there's no helping you.


I'm saying that I can look at the video and see with my own eyes that what that cop did was indefensible. I do not know WHY he did it. I know nothing of his personal or work history. For all you know, he may have done this before. In fact, my guess is that this was not his first time. If the person he did it to before happened to be white, would you still think that this incident was due to racism or would you think that this cop has a major anger problem when suspects question his authority?

I totally believe in holding this guy accountable for what he did. But I have yet to see the evidence that this was done for racist motives. If you can point out something that he says or does that is overtly racist please feel free to do so.


Wow. I can't even with people like you. My heart goes out to this man and his family.


It's not enough this police officer killed this man, you have to turn his death into a reason to call all white police officers racists. That's the thing that gets me.

People can kill people for all sorts of reasons that have nothing to do with race. IF it turns out this particular cop's crime was, in fact, motivated by his own racist views that is one thing. So far, that has not been proven one way or the other. I'm sure that the truth will come out, though.


Do you honestly think this cop would do this to someone white and not worry about the fact that people were saying he was dying? You don't have to verbally say racist things to be racist. Ask yourself whether you think it's just as likely for four white cops to hear a white person's pleas and begging for his life and just ignore them. The cop kept his knee on this mans neck for many minutes after he was totally lifeless and none of his fellow officers valued this man's life enough to step in. He likely won't be charged with a race crime, but he definitely calculated that this man's life had no value to society so he could act with impunity.
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There is more video (starts around 2:20 in the below link) from a store surveillance camera that was captured before the phone video, that depicts Floyd was compliant with the officers. So far there is no evidence and no video of him resisting arrest. The officers statements are all lies.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/george-floyd-s-sister-says-firing-officers-not-enough-they-n1215371


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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain to me why this cop did t proceed to put him in the car? What was he waiting for, in theory?


I think he was waiting to feel like the man he was kneeling on was well and truly subdued. He thought his authority had been questioned, and he wanted to demonstrate his dominance over this man.

Wasn’t he handcuffed?


yes


Yeah, I also get that this was more to due with the cop feeling as though his authority had been questioned. The bystanders telling the cop that the guy was in trouble only served to make that cop double down and refuse to take his knee off the man's neck.

There may have been a racial component to this, too. Not sure that's been established.


The racial component is the cop knew that because the guy was black the likelihood of punishment if something went wrong is basically zero. He would not take the chance with a white person because jury nullification isn't a guarantee like with a dead black man. How do you not get this by now?


eh, no jury is going to say that what that man did is o.k. It's on video and I hope he's charged because he should be. This man literally was kneeling on that man's neck while appalled bystanders taped it. The bystanders couldn't step in to save that man because 1) it was a cop doing this 2) the cop was the one with the gun.

If this had happened to a white suspect, instead, would you not be alarmed? Because you should be. Bad cops are not good for anyone. But, remember, good cops save lives and we need them.



You don't get it. Cops assume they will get off in any case involving a black suspect so will do things like this. What the actual jury in this case does, isn't the issue. The issue is he felt so comfortable doing this with everyone watching. And yes I would be alarmed if the murdered person was white. That outcome is much less likely though because the systemic devaluation of black lives by police doesn't extend to white suspects. if you know you can get away with almost anything, you might just take it that one step further because it becomes second nature. Three other cops stood by and let this happen. None of them valued this man's life as the people surrounding them begged them to save this man. Are those the good cops you're taking about?
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Anonymous wrote:There is more video (starts around 2:20 in the below link) from a store surveillance camera that was captured before the phone video, that depicts Floyd was compliant with the officers. So far there is no evidence and no video of him resisting arrest. The officers statements are all lies.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/george-floyd-s-sister-says-firing-officers-not-enough-they-n1215371




What in the world happened that made them put him on the ground and subdue him in the manner that they did? He was in cuffs. How was he a threat? They should already be arrested. What is taking so long??????
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Anonymous wrote:OMG this video is awful. What can be done? Why does this keep happening?????


No real consequences.
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Anonymous wrote:He cried out for his mother before dying. Horrific.


This made me cry. As the mother of a sixteen year old black son, I can't bring myself to watch the actual video.


That made me cry too. This is worse than a regular murder because no one could intervene because they were cops.
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I don't believe he died an hour later at the hospital. By looking at the video, I think he was already dead when they put him in the ambulance. I think there was collusion between the law enforcement, ambulance, and hospital staff to help with a cover-up. I find this large scale collusion scary.

Also, below good link about positional asphyxia.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tasneemnashrulla/minneapolis-police-crush-neck-george-floyd-death

"The MPD authorizes its officers to use two types of “neck restraints” as a “non-deadly force option,” according to its policy manual. It is defined as “compressing one or both sides of a person’s neck with an arm or leg, without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway (front of the neck).”


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