I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain to me why this cop did t proceed to put him in the car? What was he waiting for, in theory?

I think he was waiting to feel like the man he was kneeling on was well and truly subdued. He thought his authority had been questioned, and he wanted to demonstrate his dominance over this man.

Wasn’t he handcuffed?

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Yeah, I also get that this was more to due with the cop feeling as though his authority had been questioned. The bystanders telling the cop that the guy was in trouble only served to make that cop double down and refuse to take his knee off the man's neck.

There may have been a racial component to this, too. Not sure that's been established.

OMG when will this end??? There is literally nothing that will make you all see. If you can watch this video of this man being murdered and have it come out your mouth that this was not racism, there's no helping you.

I'm saying that I can look at the video and see with my own eyes that what that cop did was indefensible. I do not know WHY he did it. I know nothing of his personal or work history. For all you know, he may have done this before. In fact, my guess is that this was not his first time. If the person he did it to before happened to be white, would you still think that this incident was due to racism or would you think that this cop has a major anger problem when suspects question his authority?

I totally believe in holding this guy accountable for what he did. But I have yet to see the evidence that this was done for racist motives. If you can point out something that he says or does that is overtly racist please feel free to do so.

Blindly ignoring historical context and refusing to accept any racism that isn't accompanied by white hoods and overt declarations is part of the systemic racism that allows this to continue.

Actually, racism, itself, involves painting people with a broad brush based on stereotypes. So, whether this particular officer is actually a racist or not, YOU ARE.

Racism is far more complicated than that. Educate yourself.

Exactly. You too.

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain to me why this cop did t proceed to put him in the car? What was he waiting for, in theory?

I think he was waiting to feel like the man he was kneeling on was well and truly subdued. He thought his authority had been questioned, and he wanted to demonstrate his dominance over this man.

Wasn’t he handcuffed?

yes

Yeah, I also get that this was more to due with the cop feeling as though his authority had been questioned. The bystanders telling the cop that the guy was in trouble only served to make that cop double down and refuse to take his knee off the man's neck.

There may have been a racial component to this, too. Not sure that's been established.

OMG when will this end??? There is literally nothing that will make you all see. If you can watch this video of this man being murdered and have it come out your mouth that this was not racism, there's no helping you.

I'm saying that I can look at the video and see with my own eyes that what that cop did was indefensible. I do not know WHY he did it. I know nothing of his personal or work history. For all you know, he may have done this before. In fact, my guess is that this was not his first time. If the person he did it to before happened to be white, would you still think that this incident was due to racism or would you think that this cop has a major anger problem when suspects question his authority?

I totally believe in holding this guy accountable for what he did. But I have yet to see the evidence that this was done for racist motives. If you can point out something that he says or does that is overtly racist please feel free to do so.

Wow. I can't even with people like you. My heart goes out to this man and his family.

It's not enough this police officer killed this man, you have to turn his death into a reason to call all white police officers racists. That's the thing that gets me.

People can kill people for all sorts of reasons that have nothing to do with race. IF it turns out this particular cop's crime was, in fact, motivated by his own racist views that is one thing. So far, that has not been proven one way or the other. I'm sure that the truth will come out, though.

How exactly do you prove racial motivations? Especially if all you have to do to disprove it is throw up your hands and say you're not racist? The truth is out. This man, like so many other black men, was murdered by a racist police system.

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Anonymous wrote:Most cops are decent. I actually think very few are terrible, in the sense that they would not abuse people like that.

But I also get the sense that many of those good cops will protect the bad ones, as evidenced by the cop holding back the crowd and refusing to say anything to the guy kneeing on the suspect. After all, it might look weak to agree with the bystanders.

Would like to hear from police, current or former. directly.

All that it takes for evil to flourish....

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain to me why this cop did t proceed to put him in the car? What was he waiting for, in theory?

I think he was waiting to feel like the man he was kneeling on was well and truly subdued. He thought his authority had been questioned, and he wanted to demonstrate his dominance over this man.

Wasn’t he handcuffed?

yes

Yeah, I also get that this was more to due with the cop feeling as though his authority had been questioned. The bystanders telling the cop that the guy was in trouble only served to make that cop double down and refuse to take his knee off the man's neck.

There may have been a racial component to this, too. Not sure that's been established.

OMG when will this end??? There is literally nothing that will make you all see. If you can watch this video of this man being murdered and have it come out your mouth that this was not racism, there's no helping you.

I'm saying that I can look at the video and see with my own eyes that what that cop did was indefensible. I do not know WHY he did it. I know nothing of his personal or work history. For all you know, he may have done this before. In fact, my guess is that this was not his first time. If the person he did it to before happened to be white, would you still think that this incident was due to racism or would you think that this cop has a major anger problem when suspects question his authority?

I totally believe in holding this guy accountable for what he did. But I have yet to see the evidence that this was done for racist motives. If you can point out something that he says or does that is overtly racist please feel free to do so.

Blindly ignoring historical context and refusing to accept any racism that isn't accompanied by white hoods and overt declarations is part of the systemic racism that allows this to continue.

Actually, racism, itself, involves painting people with a broad brush based on stereotypes. So, whether this particular officer is actually a racist or not, YOU ARE.

NP. How many white men have been murdered the way George Floyd was? How many white boy have been chased and gunned down while they are jogging? You have a limited understanding of systematic racism.

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Anonymous wrote:Most cops are decent. I actually think very few are terrible, in the sense that they would not abuse people like that.

But I also get the sense that many of those good cops will protect the bad ones, as evidenced by the cop holding back the crowd and refusing to say anything to the guy kneeing on the suspect. After all, it might look weak to agree with the bystanders.

Would like to hear from police, current or former. directly.

All that it takes for evil to flourish....

There were three cops on that man.

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Anonymous wrote:What are you going to do? Police take thankless jobs. Just like prison guards. Many people in the military are not nice people either, yet they take jobs many others do not want.

For these types of jobs, you will not get the sophisticated scholar, right? What is the option?

They manage to contain themselves when interacting with white people, so the real issue is racism, not that they aren't sophisticated scholars.

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain to me why this cop did t proceed to put him in the car? What was he waiting for, in theory?

I think he was waiting to feel like the man he was kneeling on was well and truly subdued. He thought his authority had been questioned, and he wanted to demonstrate his dominance over this man.

Wasn’t he handcuffed?

yes

Yeah, I also get that this was more to due with the cop feeling as though his authority had been questioned. The bystanders telling the cop that the guy was in trouble only served to make that cop double down and refuse to take his knee off the man's neck.

There may have been a racial component to this, too. Not sure that's been established.

OMG when will this end??? There is literally nothing that will make you all see. If you can watch this video of this man being murdered and have it come out your mouth that this was not racism, there's no helping you.

I'm saying that I can look at the video and see with my own eyes that what that cop did was indefensible. I do not know WHY he did it. I know nothing of his personal or work history. For all you know, he may have done this before. In fact, my guess is that this was not his first time. If the person he did it to before happened to be white, would you still think that this incident was due to racism or would you think that this cop has a major anger problem when suspects question his authority?

I totally believe in holding this guy accountable for what he did. But I have yet to see the evidence that this was done for racist motives. If you can point out something that he says or does that is overtly racist please feel free to do so.

Blindly ignoring historical context and refusing to accept any racism that isn't accompanied by white hoods and overt declarations is part of the systemic racism that allows this to continue.

Actually, racism, itself, involves painting people with a broad brush based on stereotypes. So, whether this particular officer is actually a racist or not, YOU ARE.

NP. How many white men have been murdered the way George Floyd was? How many white boy have been chased and gunned down while they are jogging? You have a limited understanding of systematic racism.

There are plenty of examples of legitimately racially motivated acts. I am not saying that it does not exist. I am saying that not every instance is motivated by racism. And painting every altercation between a white cop and a black suspect as "racist" is simply not true. Sometimes angry people do crazy sh*t. Period.

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And here in suburban Annapolis, a white guy literally charges at a cop with a knife, and gets shot in the knee. It's amazing how cops can de-escalate white guys literally attacking them, but kill black men begging for their lives.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/ac-cn-police-shooting-arnold-20200517-yhuvx3vogvdkneqiuf3lpxxgxm-story.html

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t resist cops, don’t get pinned down.

So resisting a cop deserves death? I hope the ahole cop gets convicted of murder and we'll see how that mentality works out for him and his family.

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I can't watch this video. I am white but have a black male cousin in his 40s in Minneapolis who has complained to me about being followed by police, and he's a totally upstanding citizen. This makes me want to throw up.

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Anonymous wrote:As an African American, this video doesn’t even disturb me. It’s to the point that it’s so natural. White people hate black people. Always will.

Same.

Just look at this thread. We have this video of a man being slowly murdered by a cop, clear as day, and yet there are still posters willing to make excuses.

We have video of the jogger being ambushed and murdered by a group of vigilantes, and posters wanted to talk about his outfit and "wait for the facts."

We have a video of a white woman breaking the law and threatening the black man who had the audacity to confront her with a cop-altercation. We hear her pretend to be breathless and hysterical as she cries for law enforcement to rescue her from the scary black man who offered her dog a treat. And yet posters want to know what happened before, question his motives, and stomp their feet about being called Karen.

My life doesn't matter to you. I get it. I'm so damn tired of this.

Co-signing all of this. It’s exhausting.

Both of you are exhausting. Maybe you will have a different (and healthier) perspective if you stop living your life via social media.

There are almost a million cops in the US and you are basing your opinion of them on a half dozen videos that you saw on social media. Life and law enforcement incidents are rarely black and white. The people posting here have an agenda and zero actual LE experience. And if you disagree with them, they just call you names and continue their rant.

Go to Youtube and search racist police stops. Even if you choose not to watch, the sheer number of recorded racist LEO stops and interactions, shows the fallacy of your beliefs. You of course, will not do the search.

I do traffic stops pretty much every day. You, on the other hand, get your information by searching "police brutality" on YouTube. That's a big difference.

This is a terrible, terrible argument. There are so many people in my profession who do unethical things to their clients. And yet, under your logic, I've had hundreds of clients and yet nothing I've ever done is unethical, therefore nobody who does my job does anything wrong.

You make me sick.

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Anonymous wrote:And here in suburban Annapolis, a white guy literally charges at a cop with a knife, and gets shot in the knee. It's amazing how cops can de-escalate white guys literally attacking them, but kill black men begging for their lives.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/ac-cn-police-shooting-arnold-20200517-yhuvx3vogvdkneqiuf3lpxxgxm-story.html

Cops aren't taught to shoot in the knee to de-escalate are they?

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Anonymous wrote:As an African American, this video doesn’t even disturb me. It’s to the point that it’s so natural. White people hate black people. Always will.

Same.

Just look at this thread. We have this video of a man being slowly murdered by a cop, clear as day, and yet there are still posters willing to make excuses.

We have video of the jogger being ambushed and murdered by a group of vigilantes, and posters wanted to talk about his outfit and "wait for the facts."

We have a video of a white woman breaking the law and threatening the black man who had the audacity to confront her with a cop-altercation. We hear her pretend to be breathless and hysterical as she cries for law enforcement to rescue her from the scary black man who offered her dog a treat. And yet posters want to know what happened before, question his motives, and stomp their feet about being called Karen.

My life doesn't matter to you. I get it. I'm so damn tired of this.

Co-signing all of this. It’s exhausting.

Both of you are exhausting. Maybe you will have a different (and healthier) perspective if you stop living your life via social media.

There are almost a million cops in the US and you are basing your opinion of them on a half dozen videos that you saw on social media. Life and law enforcement incidents are rarely black and white. The people posting here have an agenda and zero actual LE experience. And if you disagree with them, they just call you names and continue their rant.

DP. I don't need to live on social media to form my opinion of cops. My dad, who happened to be a scientist and did well financially, was pulled over many times for nothing because cops assumed he must be a drug dealer to have his car. I know it was for nothing because after they were done, each time they didn't give him a ticket for anything. Usually, they'd say something like, next time don't drive so close to the car in front of you or some other random crap. Black people don't base their opinions of cops based on the things you see on social media, they base it on their and their family and friends' life experiences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As an African American, this video doesn’t even disturb me. It’s to the point that it’s so natural. White people hate black people. Always will.

Same.

Just look at this thread. We have this video of a man being slowly murdered by a cop, clear as day, and yet there are still posters willing to make excuses.

We have video of the jogger being ambushed and murdered by a group of vigilantes, and posters wanted to talk about his outfit and "wait for the facts."

We have a video of a white woman breaking the law and threatening the black man who had the audacity to confront her with a cop-altercation. We hear her pretend to be breathless and hysterical as she cries for law enforcement to rescue her from the scary black man who offered her dog a treat. And yet posters want to know what happened before, question his motives, and stomp their feet about being called Karen.

My life doesn't matter to you. I get it. I'm so damn tired of this.

Co-signing all of this. It’s exhausting.

Both of you are exhausting. Maybe you will have a different (and healthier) perspective if you stop living your life via social media.

There are almost a million cops in the US and you are basing your opinion of them on a half dozen videos that you saw on social media. Life and law enforcement incidents are rarely black and white. The people posting here have an agenda and zero actual LE experience. And if you disagree with them, they just call you names and continue their rant.

Go to Youtube and search racist police stops. Even if you choose not to watch, the sheer number of recorded racist LEO stops and interactions, shows the fallacy of your beliefs. You of course, will not do the search.

I do traffic stops pretty much every day. You, on the other hand, get your information by searching "police brutality" on YouTube. That's a big difference.

Ahh. Now we see who you are. One of the "good cops" who can justify this man's murder. Carry on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Armed white militas can storm the capitol in Michigan and shut down the legislator. Nothing.

Camo wearing thugs hang the Kentucky governor in efigy. Nothing.

Unarmed protestors in Minnesota get teargassed for expressing their concern over an unarmed AA man being killed by police.

America 2020.

I was thinking the same thing. All the Michigan militia would have been taken down if they were black. And all the white people would be saying "don't want to be killed, don't point guns at law enforcement."