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Anyone else surprised by a lack of interest in William & Mary?
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Anonymous
IMO, there is just a downward declining interest in LACs overall. |
Anonymous
.. to add.. it's why LACs are offering more undergrad business and CS majors, because there's more interest in those majors than the traditional LA majors. |
Anonymous
The Tribe tradition. |
Anonymous
DP here, but it's simple: divide each university's self-reported number of applications for the fall 2023 entering class (easy to find online) by the number of students in the entering class. For W&M, that's 17,548 divided by 1,619; for VT that's 47,208 divided by 7,196; etc. |
Anonymous
Several of the other campuses they mentioned are also dated (as in quite old and traditional). |
Anonymous
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I thought it was a very in demand admit.
People always lament that they kids can't get in on this board. The campus is really pretty if you ask me. |
Anonymous
SCHEV website -> research and reports -> admissions. It is just number of applicants divided by enrolled. |
Anonymous
| My senior just got in ED and heard a lot of the negative talk. I think there are two issues. 1) the big schools are really popular now so if you want the parties, football etc..in a big way it’s not your choice, 2) it suffers from being seen as a touch less prestigious than UVA. My DC know a lot of kids that probably would like WM but their parents really want them to go to UVA. |
Anonymous
What on earth does this mean? I went there and I don't know what you're referencing. |
Anonymous
My kid did (HS Class of 2020). He's set to graduate next May with a double major in Math and Computer Science. |
Anonymous
By the numbers, that's just not the case. It is possible that that is true at your school and what the kids are telling your counselor, so I'm not disputing that your counselor thinks that. I think some of this is just regional. A friend who lives near Charlottesville told me that everyone they know wants VT. That's not the case here in NoVa and I have no idea what Tidewater kids want or what Bristol kids want, and so on. But the number of applicants per spot does not indicate that they are more popular, much less "significantly" so. |
Anonymous
| DC loved WM but it wasn't a good school for her major (pre-vet), so ended up at another school. |
Anonymous
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Location is terrible, career recruiting is middling and it's a LAC in an era where humanities and social sciences are losing attractiveness to tech and engineering.
All SLACs are struggling for similar reasons. Students today want 1. Urban environments on the coasts - look at how popular Boston University and NYU have gotten over the past few decades 2. Strong on-campus recruiting - given the high tuition costs and most students going to college are middle-class 3. Tech/engineering degrees - due to high starting pay + lots of job opportunities in a growing industry The trend is the same in all tiers. Stanford and MIT have decisively surpassed Yale and Princeton. Harvard has an urban campus in a major city on top of having top recruiting and respectable STEM + being Harvard. It's also why a school like Georgetown, which is so ridiculously overpriced for the education that it provides, is still extremely popular with students, and why American and George Washington have become popular in recent decades as well. NYU was a commuter school, now it's the most-applied-to private university in the country. UCLA is the most popular university. |
Anonymous
| We are no longer interested in W&M because of their students’ verbal attacks on Jewish W&M students and the brick-throwing incident at the (Katherine Rowe, Jewish) president’s home. It is not for us but good luck to everyone else. |
Anonymous
We are Jewish and unfortunately this cr@p is happening on so many campuses. I feel like WM feels less activitist and political than a lot of schools. It doesn’t seem like a reason to veto the school because it sadly could happen anywhere. |