Behavioral Issues at Private Schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The last few pages have been something like this:

"Anyone who sends their kids to private school and says they don't care about college placement/would be happy with a lower-ranked school/don't compare their kids to neighbors is a lying liar."

"Okay. I can honestly say I don't care much about college placement because we are wealthy enough to pay for school/I value the journey/I don't want to send my kid to an Ivy."

"How dare you say that?????"

It's illogical, and I am someone who cares about college outcomes but I don't insist everyone sees the world the way I do.

Funny how this is just getting shown again and again. Nutty, really.

Again, no concrete answer. Speaks volumes.

A concrete answer to what, exactly? You've been so incomprehensible that I have no idea what you are talking about at this point. The conversation has proceeded exactly as laid out above.

I sent my kids to public by the way, and hope to God they ended up with better analytical skills than you.

[Anonymous]

This thread has gotten way off track.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's clear from this thread that lots of PPs view their kids as investments/commodities to extract ROI.

Find a new cause.

An investment in education, or anything, is not what you are misguidedly harping about as a commodity (is mass produced something of little differentiated value versus peers?) or an ROi outcome (r u talking about fungible monetary value or something intangible?).

We invest in Hebrew school for our boys to now their religion, we invest in a healthy diet so we take care of our bodies, we invest in music lessons so our kids can better enjoy singing/the arts/have a positive interest, we invest in large family gatherings so our families build memories and relationships, we invest in our various communities so we can help and get help, we invest in our children’s education so they can learn the best they can, develop interests and grow them.

Roi of a good education comes in the form of developing well-adjusted, well-balanced, hard working kids who become productive members of society. Now we can go define each of those words but I’ll tell you right now, my spouse and I do not need any monetary ROI from our kids. They will have to support their own lives and endeavors after college via their own marketable skills, jobs and careers. And they have been told this for years.

There is great privilege in saying you are investing $500k in a K-12 education just so they can grow and develop interests. The vast majority of people can’t afford that so they take the risk that children can somehow grow and develop interests for free.

The PPP was defining investing time, money, energy on things and never mentioned private school. S/he was responding to the asinine ROI and investment comment. Bye, very Trumplike to start out a sentence saying, “it is clear....,” and then proceed to say total nonsense not logically derived from anywhere on the thread. Hilarious!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pp, youre missing the point. People that claim they pay top dollar for private and don’t care about outplacement are basically saying they will make a huge investment and then not care where it leads. Say I pay top dollar for my kid to train with an elite football coach for 15 years. Would you believe that I don’t care whether he plays in the NFL or in the backyard with the kids? I sure wouldn’t.

Some parents don’t like to admit it because as another poster said earlier, it’s quite possible to reach the same destination via a much less expensive and stressful route.

You just don’t understand that some people care about the journey more than the destination. We pay top dollar for our kids to have the best coaches in their athletic field and it’s so they can thrive and enjoy that now, not because we have an expectation that they go pro or compete in the Olympics. You really need to understand that not everyone thinks like you do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The last few pages have been something like this:

"Anyone who sends their kids to private school and says they don't care about college placement/would be happy with a lower-ranked school/don't compare their kids to neighbors is a lying liar."

"Okay. I can honestly say I don't care much about college placement because we are wealthy enough to pay for school/I value the journey/I don't want to send my kid to an Ivy."

"How dare you say that?????"

It's illogical, and I am someone who cares about college outcomes but I don't insist everyone sees the world the way I do.

Funny how this is just getting shown again and again. Nutty, really.

Again, no concrete answer. Speaks volumes.

A concrete answer to what, exactly? You've been so incomprehensible that I have no idea what you are talking about at this point. The conversation has proceeded exactly as laid out above.

I sent my kids to public by the way, and hope to God they ended up with better analytical skills than you.

Who are you talking to? There are multiple posters saying similar things

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pp, youre missing the point. People that claim they pay top dollar for private and don’t care about outplacement are basically saying they will make a huge investment and then not care where it leads. Say I pay top dollar for my kid to train with an elite football coach for 15 years. Would you believe that I don’t care whether he plays in the NFL or in the backyard with the kids? I sure wouldn’t.

Some parents don’t like to admit it because as another poster said earlier, it’s quite possible to reach the same destination via a much less expensive and stressful route.

Uh, there are many, many, many parents who spend huge amounts of money on the activities of kids and know from the start those kids will never be anything other than a talented amateur at best.

Are you always so literal and transactional in life?

You seem the one being literal. There is no way you don’t see that posters point.

The point that she thinks everyone in the world must think about life, money, and education the exact same way she does or they must be lying? Yeah, no.

I love how none of these parents are actually addressing the questions posed.

+100

Q: “Would you or would you not be OK with your child going to a mediocre college or no college all after spending a lot of money on elite private school?”

A: “It’s about the journey!!”

Hope your kids are learning better critical thinking skills than you appear to possess.

My brother attended private school and ended up as a personal trainer and stunt actor. I went on to law school and ended up a partner. My parents didn’t pay for our schooling because they had in mind exactly what kind of people we would end up being. They did it because they thought our schools would help us become the best version of ourselves. And it did, even though our paths were not remotely the same.

You view money spent on education as a means to an end. That’s fine. What is not fine is assuming that everyone thinks the way you do. I think my children are gaining lifelong skills beyond their actual education at the school we pay for them to attend. If you don’t see the value in that, then don’t spend your money on it. I don’t disparage people who send their kids to public school so I don’t understand why you would disparage people who send their kids to private school.

[Anonymous]

This thread is hilarious. All of these private school parents who are all, “live and let live! It will be what it will be! It’s about the journey!”

It’s almost like it’s intentional mockery but I don’t think so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pp, youre missing the point. People that claim they pay top dollar for private and don’t care about outplacement are basically saying they will make a huge investment and then not care where it leads. Say I pay top dollar for my kid to train with an elite football coach for 15 years. Would you believe that I don’t care whether he plays in the NFL or in the backyard with the kids? I sure wouldn’t.

Some parents don’t like to admit it because as another poster said earlier, it’s quite possible to reach the same destination via a much less expensive and stressful route.

You just don’t understand that some people care about the journey more than the destination. We pay top dollar for our kids to have the best coaches in their athletic field and it’s so they can thrive and enjoy that now, not because we have an expectation that they go pro or compete in the Olympics. You really need to understand that not everyone thinks like you do.

Agree. Your kid is his life experiences. Not a point in time or one aspect. Labels will get you nowhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The last few pages have been something like this:

"Anyone who sends their kids to private school and says they don't care about college placement/would be happy with a lower-ranked school/don't compare their kids to neighbors is a lying liar."

"Okay. I can honestly say I don't care much about college placement because we are wealthy enough to pay for school/I value the journey/I don't want to send my kid to an Ivy."

"How dare you say that?????"

It's illogical, and I am someone who cares about college outcomes but I don't insist everyone sees the world the way I do.

Funny how this is just getting shown again and again. Nutty, really.

Again, no concrete answer. Speaks volumes.

A concrete answer to what, exactly? You've been so incomprehensible that I have no idea what you are talking about at this point. The conversation has proceeded exactly as laid out above.

I sent my kids to public by the way, and hope to God they ended up with better analytical skills than you.

Who are you talking to? There are multiple posters saying similar things

I’m not so sure about that, and I do forensics

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The last few pages have been something like this:

"Anyone who sends their kids to private school and says they don't care about college placement/would be happy with a lower-ranked school/don't compare their kids to neighbors is a lying liar."

"Okay. I can honestly say I don't care much about college placement because we are wealthy enough to pay for school/I value the journey/I don't want to send my kid to an Ivy."

"How dare you say that?????"

It's illogical, and I am someone who cares about college outcomes but I don't insist everyone sees the world the way I do.

Funny how this is just getting shown again and again. Nutty, really.

Again, no concrete answer. Speaks volumes.

A concrete answer to what, exactly? You've been so incomprehensible that I have no idea what you are talking about at this point. The conversation has proceeded exactly as laid out above.

I sent my kids to public by the way, and hope to God they ended up with better analytical skills than you.

Who are you talking to? There are multiple posters saying similar things

I’m not so sure about that, and I do forensics

What?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is hilarious. All of these private school parents who are all, “live and let live! It will be what it will be! It’s about the journey!”

It’s almost like it’s intentional mockery but I don’t think so.

+1

Then they turn around and pull a Lori Loughlin

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pp, youre missing the point. People that claim they pay top dollar for private and don’t care about outplacement are basically saying they will make a huge investment and then not care where it leads. Say I pay top dollar for my kid to train with an elite football coach for 15 years. Would you believe that I don’t care whether he plays in the NFL or in the backyard with the kids? I sure wouldn’t.

Some parents don’t like to admit it because as another poster said earlier, it’s quite possible to reach the same destination via a much less expensive and stressful route.

You just don’t understand that some people care about the journey more than the destination. We pay top dollar for our kids to have the best coaches in their athletic field and it’s so they can thrive and enjoy that now, not because we have an expectation that they go pro or compete in the Olympics. You really need to understand that not everyone thinks like you do.

Agree. Your kid is his life experiences. Not a point in time or one aspect. Labels will get you nowhere.

HOW CAN YOU PEOPLE NOT SEE THE IRONY!?!?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pp, youre missing the point. People that claim they pay top dollar for private and don’t care about outplacement are basically saying they will make a huge investment and then not care where it leads. Say I pay top dollar for my kid to train with an elite football coach for 15 years. Would you believe that I don’t care whether he plays in the NFL or in the backyard with the kids? I sure wouldn’t.

Some parents don’t like to admit it because as another poster said earlier, it’s quite possible to reach the same destination via a much less expensive and stressful route.

You just don’t understand that some people care about the journey more than the destination. We pay top dollar for our kids to have the best coaches in their athletic field and it’s so they can thrive and enjoy that now, not because we have an expectation that they go pro or compete in the Olympics. You really need to understand that not everyone thinks like you do.

Agree. Your kid is his life experiences. Not a point in time or one aspect. Labels will get you nowhere.

HOW CAN YOU PEOPLE NOT SEE THE IRONY!?!?!

You act like you don't know any people in the real world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's clear from this thread that lots of PPs view their kids as investments/commodities to extract ROI.

Wtf? Roi from my kids? Kids are negative roi forever right out of the gate.
You don’t have kids, public or private school, to save let alone make money. Memories yes, but boatloads of money?? Hahahhahaha.

Let me rephrase then -- some make attempts to mitigate the inherently negative ROI of having kids, as opposed to enjoying simply the time together.

[Anonymous]

You guys are being trolled. Pick a divisive topic and drive the conversation as long as you can, ratcheting up the intensity. Let it go. This is not an argument that can be won. And, anyway, why try to win something on an anonymous chat board? Who gives a damn what someone else thinks?