Larger women in ads for Target and Athleta

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm getting super entertained by all these entitled angry women in this thread stomping their feet and sulking about how major retailers won't cater exclusively to them any more. Oh no, Karen won't shop at Athleta any more because it features a model that looks like 40% of the population. Whatever will Athleta do without Karen?

You forgot to write “40% of the AMERICAN population”. It is not common to see fat/ obese women in different parts of the world.

I know you would love to think this, but it’s simply not true, outside of places like Japan or South Korea (where they place an unhealthy emphasis on being super skinny).

It's true. Very few places around the world have the sheer numbers of fat women that the US has.

You said “it’s not common to see fat/obese women in different parts of the world.” That is not true. Many other countries also have high levels of obesity. They might not have as many as the USA, but they still have high levels of obesity. Some parts of the world, like some Pacific islands, have higher levels of obesity than the USA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm getting super entertained by all these entitled angry women in this thread stomping their feet and sulking about how major retailers won't cater exclusively to them any more. Oh no, Karen won't shop at Athleta any more because it features a model that looks like 40% of the population. Whatever will Athleta do without Karen?

Probably go out of business.

Haha, the deluded self-importance is real.

Pretty much.

I'm the 5'10" size 20 pp.

I've almost given up on women's clothes, other than specific brands that cater to plus size, because they just don't make athletic clothes for me. And those brands are very hit and miss. I started buying men's clothes to workout and they last longer and feel better. I don't look like a supermodel when I exercise, but since I know I am "offensive" to most smaller women out there anyhow, I don't care. My dh can share clothes, so that's a plus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm getting super entertained by all these entitled angry women in this thread stomping their feet and sulking about how major retailers won't cater exclusively to them any more. Oh no, Karen won't shop at Athleta any more because it features a model that looks like 40% of the population. Whatever will Athleta do without Karen?

Probably go out of business.

Haha, the deluded self-importance is real.

This will be pretty easy to check. We'll just see how Athleta is doing a few years from now, mmkay? I'm betting the 1X-3X crowd isn't going to spending nearly as much on expensive exercise clothes as you seem to think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm getting super entertained by all these entitled angry women in this thread stomping their feet and sulking about how major retailers won't cater exclusively to them any more. Oh no, Karen won't shop at Athleta any more because it features a model that looks like 40% of the population. Whatever will Athleta do without Karen?

You forgot to write “40% of the AMERICAN population”. It is not common to see fat/ obese women in different parts of the world.

I know you would love to think this, but it’s simply not true, outside of places like Japan or South Korea (where they place an unhealthy emphasis on being super skinny).

Most people in Japan and Korea are thin due to genetics and a small bone structure. Also they eat a lot of fruits and vegetables and less processed food. Just because are thin doesn’t mean they have an unhealthy emphasis on weight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm getting super entertained by all these entitled angry women in this thread stomping their feet and sulking about how major retailers won't cater exclusively to them any more. Oh no, Karen won't shop at Athleta any more because it features a model that looks like 40% of the population. Whatever will Athleta do without Karen?

You forgot to write “40% of the AMERICAN population”. It is not common to see fat/ obese women in different parts of the world.

I know you would love to think this, but it’s simply not true, outside of places like Japan or South Korea (where they place an unhealthy emphasis on being super skinny).

Most people in Japan and Korea are thin due to genetics and a small bone structure. Also they eat a lot of fruits and vegetables and less processed food. Just because are thin doesn’t mean they have an unhealthy emphasis on weight.

And, in addition, there is a lot of pressure to be as thin as possible- and disordered eating to do it. One of my of
Korean friends only eats one meal a day to stay super thin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm getting super entertained by all these entitled angry women in this thread stomping their feet and sulking about how major retailers won't cater exclusively to them any more. Oh no, Karen won't shop at Athleta any more because it features a model that looks like 40% of the population. Whatever will Athleta do without Karen?

You forgot to write “40% of the AMERICAN population”. It is not common to see fat/ obese women in different parts of the world.

I know you would love to think this, but it’s simply not true, outside of places like Japan or South Korea (where they place an unhealthy emphasis on being super skinny).

Most people in Japan and Korea are thin due to genetics and a small bone structure. Also they eat a lot of fruits and vegetables and less processed food. Just because are thin doesn’t mean they have an unhealthy emphasis on weight.

One of DH’s good friends is South Korean. She grew up there. She talks a lot about how screwed up the weight standards are there. Her family told her that if her BMI was above 18, she was fat.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, considering the average American woman is now 5’4’’ 170 lbs (crazy, I know), I guess they figure the models need to not all be skinny.

https://www.healthline.com/health/womens-health/average-weight-for-women

Honestly, I think a lot of people just don't know how different weights look on different heights and builds. I see numbers thrown around here all the time meant to convey "fat" or "skinny" but they're just that -- numbers. I'm 5'2 and 165 lbs. On paper, all of you would mock me for being obese. I wear a size 12. Still definitely not skinny. But people who try to guess my size in person almost always peg me at about size 6 and weighing considerably less than I actually do. They just have no concept of how much boobs and butt weigh, and how being curvy in the right places on top of being short makes me seem smaller than I am.

In other words: "Average" height and weight allows for a HUGE variety in how women actually look, and it's a good thing that people trying to sell clothes are finally understanding that we don't want to know how a dress will look on an alien-like model -- we want to know how the dress will look on ourselves.

This! The height/weight shaming threads are so weird because there are so many variables involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, considering the average American woman is now 5’4’’ 170 lbs (crazy, I know), I guess they figure the models need to not all be skinny.

https://www.healthline.com/health/womens-health/average-weight-for-women

Honestly, I think a lot of people just don't know how different weights look on different heights and builds. I see numbers thrown around here all the time meant to convey "fat" or "skinny" but they're just that -- numbers. I'm 5'2 and 165 lbs. On paper, all of you would mock me for being obese. I wear a size 12. Still definitely not skinny. But people who try to guess my size in person almost always peg me at about size 6 and weighing considerably less than I actually do. They just have no concept of how much boobs and butt weigh, and how being curvy in the right places on top of being short makes me seem smaller than I am.

In other words: "Average" height and weight allows for a HUGE variety in how women actually look, and it's a good thing that people trying to sell clothes are finally understanding that we don't want to know how a dress will look on an alien-like model -- we want to know how the dress will look on ourselves.

This! The height/weight shaming threads are so weird because there are so many variables involved.

People are still overweight, whether or not they look as fat as people might think they should, at their height/weight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm getting super entertained by all these entitled angry women in this thread stomping their feet and sulking about how major retailers won't cater exclusively to them any more. Oh no, Karen won't shop at Athleta any more because it features a model that looks like 40% of the population. Whatever will Athleta do without Karen?

You forgot to write “40% of the AMERICAN population”. It is not common to see fat/ obese women in different parts of the world.

I know you would love to think this, but it’s simply not true, outside of places like Japan or South Korea (where they place an unhealthy emphasis on being super skinny).

Clearly you’ve never traveled beyond local fast food chains.

[Anonymous]

2019

13% of adults in the world are obese

Obesity is defined as having a body-mass index equal to or greater than 30.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:2019

13% of adults in the world are obese

Obesity is defined as having a body-mass index equal to or greater than 30.

I’ve traveled extensively throughout Europe, Australia and parts of Asia. American tourists stick out like a sore thumb. Actually, it’s quite sad. And this is a specific population of Americans wealthy enough to travel abroad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2019

13% of adults in the world are obese

Obesity is defined as having a body-mass index equal to or greater than 30.

I’ve traveled extensively throughout Europe, Australia and parts of Asia. American tourists stick out like a sore thumb. Actually, it’s quite sad. And this is a specific population of Americans wealthy enough to travel abroad.

You’re just lying. It’s sad. By far the most obnoxious tourists in Europe right now are the huge Chinese tour groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm getting super entertained by all these entitled angry women in this thread stomping their feet and sulking about how major retailers won't cater exclusively to them any more. Oh no, Karen won't shop at Athleta any more because it features a model that looks like 40% of the population. Whatever will Athleta do without Karen?

Right, so let’s just encourage more and more Americans to stay fat because that’s apparently ok?

Yes, Americans were all definitely going to be skinny but then they saw an Athleta ad, and decided against it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm getting super entertained by all these entitled angry women in this thread stomping their feet and sulking about how major retailers won't cater exclusively to them any more. Oh no, Karen won't shop at Athleta any more because it features a model that looks like 40% of the population. Whatever will Athleta do without Karen?

Right, so let’s just encourage more and more Americans to stay fat because that’s apparently ok?

Yes, Americans were all definitely going to be skinny but then they saw an Athleta ad, and decided against it.

Clearly that’s not the only reason, but it doesn’t help anything to just act like it’s ok to be fat and unhealthy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The blue pants shown on the fit model and the one with the back fat literally hanging over her bra from the early pages of this thread and the burlap sack thing from last page aren’t going to sell the clothes to me. I actually really liked those blue pants but the larger model wearing them made me think oh no - maybe they won’t be flattering on me, even though I’m not anywhere near that size (but not fit like the first model).

I also received an email ad for Victoria’s Secret swim the other day with a plus size model wearing a skimpy swimsuit. Again, the suit didn’t look attractive on this person, and it’s not going to sell me.

I see what the companies are doing but I don’t think the marketing is going to work out.

Yes, a DCUM throwing a whiny temper tantrum definitely knows marketing better than the successful marketing departments of major US retail corporations.

Why don't you send a firm letter to Athleta and enlighten them as to your superior knowledge?