Larger women in ads for Target and Athleta

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Give it a rest. They are trying to let those of us know, who are 5'10" and size 20, that they actually have clothes there for us.

If you think bigger people being in the store or buying from them cheapens your experience, then feel free to leave.


I think that people do not want to buy clothes from a store selling oversized burlap sacks, and they will leave.




I'm 5'7, 140lbs and, when I see ads with overweight people it is jarring. It makes me not want to shop there. I don't mind young, thin models or old, thin models, but very large models turns me away. I'm not a young skinny minnie, but seeing thin models doesn't bother me.
Anonymous
Similarly- how do I stop those Billie razors from advertising to me nonstop? They're on my facebook feed all the time. I've even said I don't want to see more ads like this. I truly don't want to see people with 2 inch long hair shaving their legs or arm pits.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Give it a rest. They are trying to let those of us know, who are 5'10" and size 20, that they actually have clothes there for us.

If you think bigger people being in the store or buying from them cheapens your experience, then feel free to leave.


I think that people do not want to buy clothes from a store selling oversized burlap sacks, and they will leave.




I'm 5'7, 140lbs and, when I see ads with overweight people it is jarring. It makes me not want to shop there. I don't mind young, thin models or old, thin models, but very large models turns me away. I'm not a young skinny minnie, but seeing thin models doesn't bother me.


Agreed. We don’t need anorexic stick people, but part of buying clothes is aspirational for me. I want to engage in the fantasy that I will look really *good* in clothes.
Anonymous
I like the Title Nine "models" who are actually not models but rather women who seem to enjoy the outdoors and exercise. I aspire to be like and look like them, and it's actually something I could realistically do! And in fact did back when I had childcare and had time to work out...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well, considering the average American woman is now 5’4’’ 170 lbs (crazy, I know), I guess they figure the models need to not all be skinny.

https://www.healthline.com/health/womens-health/average-weight-for-women


Honestly, I think a lot of people just don't know how different weights look on different heights and builds. I see numbers thrown around here all the time meant to convey "fat" or "skinny" but they're just that -- numbers. I'm 5'2 and 165 lbs. On paper, all of you would mock me for being obese. I wear a size 12. Still definitely not skinny. But people who try to guess my size in person almost always peg me at about size 6 and weighing considerably less than I actually do. They just have no concept of how much boobs and butt weigh, and how being curvy in the right places on top of being short makes me seem smaller than I am.

In other words: "Average" height and weight allows for a HUGE variety in how women actually look, and it's a good thing that people trying to sell clothes are finally understanding that we don't want to know how a dress will look on an alien-like model -- we want to know how the dress will look on ourselves.
Anonymous
I'm getting super entertained by all these entitled angry women in this thread stomping their feet and sulking about how major retailers won't cater exclusively to them any more. Oh no, Karen won't shop at Athleta any more because it features a model that looks like 40% of the population. Whatever will Athleta do without Karen?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is the distinction between “good fatty”
And “bad fatty”? I have never heard of these terms.


https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/04/taught-to-be-good-fatty/

This is just one body positivity blogger but every single one has an article on the “good fatty, bad fatty dichotomy”.


Wow, that website is shocking. And, of course, asking for $$ on homepage. These bloggers seriously taking advantage of a vulnerable audience.

But you didn’t bother to read the article.


what is your take from the article? I read it. Seems like she is misappropriating the experience of POC, LGBTQ+, and other oppressed groups. She acknowledges that for a lot of fat people, it comes down to lifestyle choice (eating fried chicken, not exercising, playing video games, etc). Yet she feels these people should go on ahead and society and healthcare providers should accept it. Certainly a lot of obese cannot control it, but the ones who can shouldn’t claim status as a discriminated people. She’s gross really. Thinks she’s being provocative, but no, she has no class.

So you really can’t read for meaning. Huh. Are you the same PP above who I accused of not being able to read? The article is about how she feels judged no matter what she does, no matter how much she conforms to the “good fatty” concept of behavior.

Here’s the closing passage, so the rest of us can judge you for being unable to read a simple blog post:
“I’m still fighting a battle with anorexia and healthy, regular eating. It’s made far more difficult when I am shamed for eating at all.

But I try to remember that every time I overcome my fear and do eat in public, it’s a revolutionary act.

Rather than trying to make myself smaller, more consumable, more pretty, I’m going to take up more space, allow myself room to breathe.

If that makes me a bad fatty — well — hell has all the best musicians, so I’ll bring my dancing shoes.”

Gosh heck, she just want to love herself? What a cow, amirite? What a horrible person who is CUH-LEARLY just trying to piggyback off the suffering of oppressed groups! BTW, princess: fat people actually are oppressed. And you’re doing it!


DP. I suspect that blogger has had a happier and more fulfilling life than the angry little bitter PP, and bitter PP knows it. That's what is making bitter PP so nasty and spitting mad. She can't accept that a fat woman leads a happier life than her. Poor baby.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm getting super entertained by all these entitled angry women in this thread stomping their feet and sulking about how major retailers won't cater exclusively to them any more. Oh no, Karen won't shop at Athleta any more because it features a model that looks like 40% of the population. Whatever will Athleta do without Karen?


Probably go out of business.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm getting super entertained by all these entitled angry women in this thread stomping their feet and sulking about how major retailers won't cater exclusively to them any more. Oh no, Karen won't shop at Athleta any more because it features a model that looks like 40% of the population. Whatever will Athleta do without Karen?


Probably go out of business.


Haha, the deluded self-importance is real.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm getting super entertained by all these entitled angry women in this thread stomping their feet and sulking about how major retailers won't cater exclusively to them any more. Oh no, Karen won't shop at Athleta any more because it features a model that looks like 40% of the population. Whatever will Athleta do without Karen?


Right, so let’s just encourage more and more Americans to stay fat because that’s apparently ok?
Anonymous
The blue pants shown on the fit model and the one with the back fat literally hanging over her bra from the early pages of this thread and the burlap sack thing from last page aren’t going to sell the clothes to me. I actually really liked those blue pants but the larger model wearing them made me think oh no - maybe they won’t be flattering on me, even though I’m not anywhere near that size (but not fit like the first model).

I also received an email ad for Victoria’s Secret swim the other day with a plus size model wearing a skimpy swimsuit. Again, the suit didn’t look attractive on this person, and it’s not going to sell me.

I see what the companies are doing but I don’t think the marketing is going to work out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The blue pants shown on the fit model and the one with the back fat literally hanging over her bra from the early pages of this thread and the burlap sack thing from last page aren’t going to sell the clothes to me. I actually really liked those blue pants but the larger model wearing them made me think oh no - maybe they won’t be flattering on me, even though I’m not anywhere near that size (but not fit like the first model).

I also received an email ad for Victoria’s Secret swim the other day with a plus size model wearing a skimpy swimsuit. Again, the suit didn’t look attractive on this person, and it’s not going to sell me.

I see what the companies are doing but I don’t think the marketing is going to work out.


Right. The clothes aren’t designed for them, so they just look bad. How is that going to make me want to buy them?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm getting super entertained by all these entitled angry women in this thread stomping their feet and sulking about how major retailers won't cater exclusively to them any more. Oh no, Karen won't shop at Athleta any more because it features a model that looks like 40% of the population. Whatever will Athleta do without Karen?


You forgot to write “40% of the AMERICAN population”. It is not common to see fat/ obese women in different parts of the world.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm getting super entertained by all these entitled angry women in this thread stomping their feet and sulking about how major retailers won't cater exclusively to them any more. Oh no, Karen won't shop at Athleta any more because it features a model that looks like 40% of the population. Whatever will Athleta do without Karen?


You forgot to write “40% of the AMERICAN population”. It is not common to see fat/ obese women in different parts of the world.


I know you would love to think this, but it’s simply not true, outside of places like Japan or South Korea (where they place an unhealthy emphasis on being super skinny).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm getting super entertained by all these entitled angry women in this thread stomping their feet and sulking about how major retailers won't cater exclusively to them any more. Oh no, Karen won't shop at Athleta any more because it features a model that looks like 40% of the population. Whatever will Athleta do without Karen?


You forgot to write “40% of the AMERICAN population”. It is not common to see fat/ obese women in different parts of the world.


I know you would love to think this, but it’s simply not true, outside of places like Japan or South Korea (where they place an unhealthy emphasis on being super skinny).


It's true. Very few places around the world have the sheer numbers of fat women that the US has.
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