Update on Harvard Lawsuit

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Good, balanced article that provides some context to the current debate..

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/10/15/the-rise-and-fall-of-affirmative-action


I know this article. When it says:"Wang was rejected from all the Ivy League universities he had applied to, except the University of Pennsylvania." is when you should stop reading it. In the first sentence of paragraph 2.

Top kid applies to elite colleges and gets in one. Can someone point out the problem to me?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good, balanced article that provides some context to the current debate..

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/10/15/the-rise-and-fall-of-affirmative-action


I know this article. When it says:"Wang was rejected from all the Ivy League universities he had applied to, except the University of Pennsylvania." is when you should stop reading it. In the first sentence of paragraph 2.

Top kid applies to elite colleges and gets in one. Can someone point out the problem to me?
O

If he was black he would have gotten into all eight. Heck, if he was white he might have had a chance at HYP. Try to keep up....it isn’t that hard.
Anonymous
If you are against AA, your insesecurities are showing. It’s not the college admissions that it’s proponents are seeking. It’s the job market they are after. Get used to it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good, balanced article that provides some context to the current debate..

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/10/15/the-rise-and-fall-of-affirmative-action


I know this article. When it says:"Wang was rejected from all the Ivy League universities he had applied to, except the University of Pennsylvania." is when you should stop reading it. In the first sentence of paragraph 2.

Top kid applies to elite colleges and gets in one. Can someone point out the problem to me?
O

If he was black he would have gotten into all eight. Heck, if he was white he might have had a chance at HYP. Try to keep up....it isn’t that hard.


Yet, you would never trade places with that black kid with his or her life chances and opportunities in a racist society.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good, balanced article that provides some context to the current debate..

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/10/15/the-rise-and-fall-of-affirmative-action


I know this article. When it says:"Wang was rejected from all the Ivy League universities he had applied to, except the University of Pennsylvania." is when you should stop reading it. In the first sentence of paragraph 2.

Top kid applies to elite colleges and gets in one. Can someone point out the problem to me?
O

If he was black he would have gotten into all eight. Heck, if he was white he might have had a chance at HYP. Try to keep up....it isn’t that hard.


"Try to keep up!" Lol...

You can only attend one college and he got into an elite.

I fail to see the problem! (Because there isn't one!)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good, balanced article that provides some context to the current debate..

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/10/15/the-rise-and-fall-of-affirmative-action


I know this article. When it says:"Wang was rejected from all the Ivy League universities he had applied to, except the University of Pennsylvania." is when you should stop reading it. In the first sentence of paragraph 2.

Top kid applies to elite colleges and gets in one. Can someone point out the problem to me?
O

If he was black he would have gotten into all eight. Heck, if he was white he might have had a chance at HYP. Try to keep up....it isn’t that hard.


"Try to keep up!" Lol...

You can only attend one college and he got into an elite.

I fail to see the problem! (Because there isn't one!)


You won’t see the problem until AA Ivy grads start passing you Podunk grads by with EEOs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you are against AA, your insesecurities are showing. It’s not the college admissions that it’s proponents are seeking. It’s the job market they are after. Get used to it.


Get used to what?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are against AA, your insesecurities are showing. It’s not the college admissions that it’s proponents are seeking. It’s the job market they are after. Get used to it.


Get used to what?



Under Democratic Socialism or any liberal politics, you’ll be working for Affirmative Action/EEO beneficiaries.
Anonymous
Don’t worry about one day when AA/EEO candidates pass you by for that coveted job or position. That day is already here. Just look at all the loser racists who lost out. They often shout, “Make America Great Again,” and vote for you know who.
Anonymous
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/anti-asian-bias-not-affirmative-action-is-on-trial-in-the-harvard-case

Great article on the case.

I think it clearly hits the issue at hand.

AA isn’t a problem, it is specific anti-asian bias with respect to whites, not URMs.

That said, I do think what will happen is h will win in district and appellate court, only for scotus to take it up and that this scotus will use it as a vehicle to really make a broad ruling on the use of AA.

Scotus last term overturned internet sales tax and abood; cases that established multi-decade precedent. Scotus as constructed will not hesitate to strike down bakke, gratz, Bollinger, Fisher II just because of stare decisis.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/anti-asian-bias-not-affirmative-action-is-on-trial-in-the-harvard-case

Great article on the case.

I think it clearly hits the issue at hand.

AA isn’t a problem, it is specific anti-asian bias with respect to whites, not URMs.

That said, I do think what will happen is h will win in district and appellate court, only for scotus to take it up and that this scotus will use it as a vehicle to really make a broad ruling on the use of AA.

Scotus last term overturned internet sales tax and abood; cases that established multi-decade precedent. Scotus as constructed will not hesitate to strike down bakke, gratz, Bollinger, Fisher II just because of stare decisis.


But do you think Kavanaugh, a true Ivy-leaguer can bring himself to rule against Harvard? He would be going against his way of life.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/anti-asian-bias-not-affirmative-action-is-on-trial-in-the-harvard-case

Great article on the case.

I think it clearly hits the issue at hand.

AA isn’t a problem, it is specific anti-asian bias with respect to whites, not URMs.

That said, I do think what will happen is h will win in district and appellate court, only for scotus to take it up and that this scotus will use it as a vehicle to really make a broad ruling on the use of AA.

Scotus last term overturned internet sales tax and abood; cases that established multi-decade precedent. Scotus as constructed will not hesitate to strike down bakke, gratz, Bollinger, Fisher II just because of stare decisis.


But do you think Kavanaugh, a true Ivy-leaguer can bring himself to rule against Harvard? He would be going against his way of life.


Thomas, alito, Roberts are ivy leaguers as well and they have never hesitated to rule against AA

Roberts is the one AA activists would need to convince. BK would Nuke AA - I don’t think he’s all that happy with H and Y on the institutional level after happened during confirmation.

I think there is an outside chance Roberts could be swayed like Kennedy to change his mind on AA due to wanting to protect the court’s image with minorities BUT if that was true, he wouldn’t have also always been anti VRA for example.
Anonymous
http://samv91khoyt2i553a2t1s05i-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Doc-416-3-Kahlenberg-Errata.pdf

Document filed by expert support for plaintiff taking Harvard to task.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2018/10/12/still-need-affirmative-action-just-not-race/dDAPCPn0MHBjrLAh8S5FiN/story.html

General article for those that don’t want to read the five pager.

Really damning stuff here.

Pretty much proves H doesn’t even care about boosting URM numbers as a whole. What they specifically want to protect is two
Things - white enrollment and rich blacks.

I can’t see how a supporter of AA can look at this evidence and say it works.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good, balanced article that provides some context to the current debate..

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/10/15/the-rise-and-fall-of-affirmative-action


I know this article. When it says:"Wang was rejected from all the Ivy League universities he had applied to, except the University of Pennsylvania." is when you should stop reading it. In the first sentence of paragraph 2.

Top kid applies to elite colleges and gets in one. Can someone point out the problem to me?
O

If he was black he would have gotten into all eight. Heck, if he was white he might have had a chance at HYP. Try to keep up....it isn’t that hard.


"Try to keep up!" Lol...

You can only attend one college and he got into an elite.

I fail to see the problem! (Because there isn't one!)


Then you must have the cognitive ability of a 6 year old.
Anonymous
Our liberal agenda is to increase political power, beginning with the midterm. Then push for the liberal agenda including affirmative action. Once we have students in place in highly selective colleges and units, things will naturally fall into place. This will naturally allow the POC to move up in various institutions, including in corporations and in government. Affirmative action is only the first step.
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