If it came down to Hogan vs Jealous in General Election who would you vote for?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Democrat here, but I'm voting Hogan. Jealous is too black for me

OMG, I mean too leftist for me. I wish I could just put a strikethrough through "black", as I would never want to give the impression that my vote has anything to do with Jealous's race and his work with the NAACP.

[Anonymous]

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And Hogan has yet to tell us how the school calendar executive order (aka loss of spring break) has worked out. Is Ocean City now better off? We were promised data by last fall...

According to Ocean City businesses, they are, by a lot:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/an-extra-week-of-summer-for-almost-900000-kids-is-a-boon-for-one-beach-town/2017/09/01/8e490c12-8eab-11e7-84c0-02cc069f2c37_story.html?utm_term=.5c16623c7b7f

MD state fair numbers up also:
http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/opinion/columnists/cc-op-tomlinson-20170914-story.html

So just by shifting the calendar a few days, MD sees a big economic benefit. That seems like a worthy compromise to me.

They promised official results in the fall. This article is little more than reporting people’s impressions. Where is the official data if things went so well. I have no problem having school start after Labor Day, but I do have a problem with no teacher work days and no spring break.

[Anonymous]

How about that Hogan is happy to continue to take in money from MC, but doesn't give it back at a rate we need! Our schools are a mess because they can't keep up with adding so many kids each year, our traffic infrastructure is a disaster (if any of you believe the election ploy of widening the beltway and 270 with tolls and or double decker roads ya'll are way more naive than I thought - and by saying naive I am trying to be kind), and his continued ignoring of not just MC, but also BC and PGC, because those are the 3 counties that didn't vote for him in the first election.

Please tell me what it is exactly you like about him, because our money going to Ocean City cannot be it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How about that Hogan is happy to continue to take in money from MC, but doesn't give it back at a rate we need! Our schools are a mess because they can't keep up with adding so many kids each year, our traffic infrastructure is a disaster (if any of you believe the election ploy of widening the beltway and 270 with tolls and or double decker roads ya'll are way more naive than I thought - and by saying naive I am trying to be kind), and his continued ignoring of not just MC, but also BC and PGC, because those are the 3 counties that didn't vote for him in the first election.

Please tell me what it is exactly you like about him, because our money going to Ocean City cannot be it.

You can argue it's payback time as Democratic governors routinely ignored the Republican voting parts of the state.

Many people like Hogan because the state has functioned just fine and dandy during his administration. People don't necessarily seek a governor to radically shake things up. Maryland continues to offer high quality lifestyle to many residents, with good schools and good amenities. Hogan has dumped money into road building infrastructure projects. One can take the view the governor needs to balance the needs and interests of the entire state, not just one or two or three counties. Montgomery County can't get everything it wants all the time, just like Worcester County can't either. And as for Baltimore City - dysfunctional, dysfunctional, dysfunctional (and I love Baltimore and grew up in Baltimore and it will always be my hometown). Most state residents do not look kindly at the state continuing to pour billions into a dysfunctional city. Baltimore City has been controlled by Democrats since the 1950s and Maryland has only had two Republican governors in my lifetime, yet why criticize Hogan for Baltimore?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How about that Hogan is happy to continue to take in money from MC, but doesn't give it back at a rate we need! Our schools are a mess because they can't keep up with adding so many kids each year, our traffic infrastructure is a disaster (if any of you believe the election ploy of widening the beltway and 270 with tolls and or double decker roads ya'll are way more naive than I thought - and by saying naive I am trying to be kind), and his continued ignoring of not just MC, but also BC and PGC, because those are the 3 counties that didn't vote for him in the first election.

Please tell me what it is exactly you like about him, because our money going to Ocean City cannot be it.

You can argue it's payback time as Democratic governors routinely ignored the Republican voting parts of the state.

Many people like Hogan because the state has functioned just fine and dandy during his administration. People don't necessarily seek a governor to radically shake things up. Maryland continues to offer high quality lifestyle to many residents, with good schools and good amenities. Hogan has dumped money into road building infrastructure projects. One can take the view the governor needs to balance the needs and interests of the entire state, not just one or two or three counties. Montgomery County can't get everything it wants all the time, just like Worcester County can't either. And as for Baltimore City - dysfunctional, dysfunctional, dysfunctional (and I love Baltimore and grew up in Baltimore and it will always be my hometown). Most state residents do not look kindly at the state continuing to pour billions into a dysfunctional city. Baltimore City has been controlled by Democrats since the 1950s and Maryland has only had two Republican governors in my lifetime, yet why criticize Hogan for Baltimore?

That makes it ok with you?

There's also a meaningful difference between "Everything in Baltimore is Hogan's fault!" and "Hogan is ignoring Baltimore". People are saying the latter, not the former.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How about that Hogan is happy to continue to take in money from MC, but doesn't give it back at a rate we need! Our schools are a mess because they can't keep up with adding so many kids each year, our traffic infrastructure is a disaster (if any of you believe the election ploy of widening the beltway and 270 with tolls and or double decker roads ya'll are way more naive than I thought - and by saying naive I am trying to be kind), and his continued ignoring of not just MC, but also BC and PGC, because those are the 3 counties that didn't vote for him in the first election.

Please tell me what it is exactly you like about him, because our money going to Ocean City cannot be it.

You can argue it's payback time as Democratic governors routinely ignored the Republican voting parts of the state.

Many people like Hogan because the state has functioned just fine and dandy during his administration. People don't necessarily seek a governor to radically shake things up. Maryland continues to offer high quality lifestyle to many residents, with good schools and good amenities. Hogan has dumped money into road building infrastructure projects. One can take the view the governor needs to balance the needs and interests of the entire state, not just one or two or three counties. Montgomery County can't get everything it wants all the time, just like Worcester County can't either. And as for Baltimore City - dysfunctional, dysfunctional, dysfunctional (and I love Baltimore and grew up in Baltimore and it will always be my hometown). Most state residents do not look kindly at the state continuing to pour billions into a dysfunctional city. Baltimore City has been controlled by Democrats since the 1950s and Maryland has only had two Republican governors in my lifetime, yet why criticize Hogan for Baltimore?

That makes it ok with you?

There's also a meaningful difference between "Everything in Baltimore is Hogan's fault!" and "Hogan is ignoring Baltimore". People are saying the latter, not the former.

Not at all. But there is an irony in people complaining about being ignored.

Hogan hasn't ignored Baltimore. No governor can. He's merely been pragmatic about sending state money after bad in Baltimore.

[Anonymous]

Larry versus the Jealous guy. It’s no contest! We’re voting for Hogan and are both Democrats.

[Anonymous]

Part of the issue of the school growth and why MoCo isn’t receiving enough dollars is down to English Language Services. We are receiving too many kids who do not speak English and then having to provide wrap around services and school services. Yes it is federal law but the law does not say we cannot crack down on reporting it either. My snowflake and yours are being impacted. We support Hogan but MoCo can’t whine too much when it creates its own problems at times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Part of the issue of the school growth and why MoCo isn’t receiving enough dollars is down to English Language Services. We are receiving too many kids who do not speak English and then having to provide wrap around services and school services. Yes it is federal law but the law does not say we cannot crack down on reporting it either. My snowflake and yours are being impacted. We support Hogan but MoCo can’t whine too much when it creates its own problems at times.

What about the reporting is the issue? MCPS always reports how many ESOL kids are in the system. What is it that needs to be cracked down?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Definitely Hogan. He is a pretty progressive Republican.

Same here but not because he is " progressive," whatever that means these days.

He cares about the majority of people, vs special interests, and delivers solutions

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely Hogan. He is a pretty progressive Republican.

Same here but not because he is " progressive," whatever that means these days.

He cares about the majority of people, vs special interests, and delivers solutions

What solutions has he delivered, and what problems did these solutions solve?

[Anonymous]

Hogan, of course. The last thing we need is another tax-and-spend politician who does whatever the special interest groups tell him. That's the same crowd that has already ruined Montgomery County.

[Anonymous]

So you all seem happy that Hogan is spending our (MC) tax dollars in n other parts of the state?!? And that's why you ate going to vote for him?

"Maryland continues to offer high quality lifestyle to many residents, with good schools and good amenities."

If you believe our schools are good, and will even stay at the level they are at now when we keep adding thousands of kids each year, with the pitiful funding we get from the state, we are in even bigger trouble than I thought. Or, your kids are in private and you don't care. But if you want property values to remain high, the schools have to be good. And, they've been in a downward slide for many years now.

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Yes, that is what I would call it. More and more wealth and power are concentrated in the hands of the few, and those few are overwhelmingly white. A true progressive in the Sanders mold, like Jealous, understands the inherent injustice in the current system. He recognizes that strong efforts to transfer money and power from the current elite few to the masses is necessary to create a fair and just society. Much of this can be done through tax policy, be he will push for many other measures to push for a more equal society.

PP, he's going to be governor of Maryland, not emperor of America.

If I were feeling paranoid, I might think that your post was a disinformation campaign to get people to vote for Hogan.

+1 There is a troll on this Board who posts racist offensive stuff in the guise of a supporter of Democratic candidates. Maybe Jeff can out him.

This is the second time you posted this, and I went back and read literally every post trying to figure out which one you're referring to, and I can't find it.

Then I started thinking maybe it's just you gaslighting everyone else. So cite the post, or drop it.

I am a brand new poster to this thread and immediately thought the exact same thing. There are several posts like this, the most recent is the post at the top of this reply. It’s so obviously a troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hogan, of course. The last thing we need is another tax-and-spend politician who does whatever the special interest groups tell him. That's the same crowd that has already ruined Montgomery County.

I don't think that Montgomery County is ruined.